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Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 22:33
by tommykl
This wrote:Please, don't take it personal Shadaza, i explained why i let myself got away in it. But as i still smelled blood, i still tried to squeeze something out of it. And i do have a point about the misleading misinformation. So i still demand a compensation of 50 francs.

How would you like those francs? Swiss? French? Belgian? CFA? :P

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 22:44
by Nessafox
tommykl wrote:
This wrote:Please, don't take it personal Shadaza, i explained why i let myself got away in it. But as i still smelled blood, i still tried to squeeze something out of it. And i do have a point about the misleading misinformation. So i still demand a compensation of 50 francs.

How would you like those francs? Swiss? French? Belgian? CFA? :P

Luxemburgian.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 23:26
by DemocalypseNow
Gazzetta dello Sport wrote:Renzo expands to three drivers in 1955

Italian Formula 1 team Renzo have announced their intention to expand back to the three car lineup they previously debuted in the sport with, but with a modified driver lineup for the upcoming 1955 season.

Along with 1954 regulars Gianni Marzotto and Toulo de Graffenried, Renzo have signed British driver Stirling Moss. The young Moss has demonstrated some speed in his time in the sport so far, but has been unable to translate this into great results thus far in his career.

It is widely expected the Renzo team will continue to use customer Ferrari equipment, having recently purcahsed all of Team Ultimate's Ferrari assets, which included a similar spec 555 car to the one race by De Graffenried in 1954.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:00
by TomWazzleshaw
Firstly, Jaguar would like to request £27 392 from Aston Martin in order to cover the rest of our prize-money agreement. Secondly, we would like to make bids for the following assets:

-Maserati 200F engine 5 - £305
-Maserati 200F engine 6 - £305
-Maserati 200F engine 11 - £305
-Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £205
-Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £205
-Maserati AM53 chassis 7 - £205
-Maserati 200F engine 10 - £205
-Mercedes UM153 engine 13 - £205
-Maserati AM53 chassis 5 - £205
-Maserati AM53 chassis 6 - £205
-Maserati AM53 chassis 8 - £205
-Aqua SAMC-1A engine 1 - £95
-Ultimate chassis 002a - £50
-Ultimate chassis 002b - £50
-O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 2 - £50
-O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 3 - £50
-O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £50
-O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £50
-O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £50

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:06
by DemocalypseNow
Renzo makes the following bids;

Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £250
Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £250
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £200
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £200
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £200

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:10
by TomWazzleshaw
Jaguar will place the following bids in addition to our existing bids:

Bentley 53C chassis 1 - £270
Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £255
Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £255
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £205
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £205
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £205

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:12
by pasta_maldonado
Scuderia Anglo Italia make the following bids:

Aqua SAMC-1A engine 1 - £100
Ultimate chassis 002a - £55
Maserati 200F engine 5 - £310
Maserati 200F engine 6 - £310
Maserati 200F engine 11 - £310
Bentley 53C chassis 1 - £275

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:32
by TomWazzleshaw
Jaguar will place the following updated bids:

Ultimate chassis 002b - £60
Ferrari 550 chassis 3 - £1 005
Ferrari 550 engine 3 - £705

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:34
by DemocalypseNow
Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £300
Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £300
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £250
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £250
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £250

Just give up Jaguar...you're not even being serious.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:40
by TomWazzleshaw
Jaguar will place the following bids:

Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £305
Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £305
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £255
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £255
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £255

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 06:43
by pi314159
As I don't want to see the 156s go away below scrap value, O.S.C.A. will bid:

O.S.C.A. 156s engine 5 - £1500
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 6 - £1500
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9 - £1500

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 08:31
by Pointrox
Ecurie Albertini bids 100 quid for O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 08:44
by tommykl
Pointrox wrote:Ecurie Albertini bids 100 quid for O.S.C.A. 156s engine 9.

Sorry, SAI already bid £1 500 on that one...

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 08:57
by DemocalypseNow
Someone seriously needs to bitchslap some honour into Jaguar...disgusting behaviour.

Mercedes UM153 engine 12 - £350
Bentley 53C chassis 2 - £350

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 09:42
by Peteroli34
Anglo-Racing Engineering bid for the following

Ultimate chassis 002b £100
Ultimate chassis 002a £100
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 2 £100
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 3 £100
Maserati AM53 chassis 5 £250
Maserati AM53 chassis 6 £250

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 09:43
by Hermann95
I have one question: in the storyline for my team it says that Porsche enter F1 and supply my team with engines. So is it possible to run 2 manufacturers at once or do i have to have only one team which has to start producing the Posche engines?

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 09:46
by tommykl
Hermann95 wrote:I have one question: in the storyline for my team it says that Porsche enter F1 and supply my team with engines. So is it possible to run 2 manufacturers at once or do i have to have only one team which has to start producing the Posche engines?

In general, a user can own two separate entities, and occasionally a third one for a special one-off, so you can create Porsche on the side.

However, just to be a bit more realistic, don't make engines just for yourself, it's no fun :P

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 10:02
by Hermann95
tommykl wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:I have one question: in the storyline for my team it says that Porsche enter F1 and supply my team with engines. So is it possible to run 2 manufacturers at once or do i have to have only one team which has to start producing the Posche engines?

In general, a user can own two separate entities, and occasionally a third one for a special one-off, so you can create Porsche on the side.

However, just to be a bit more realistic, don't make engines just for yourself, it's no fun :P

Of course it wasn't intended to make engines just for Loyer. Porsche will produce engines for everyone who want's them.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 11:04
by pasta_maldonado
Hermann95 wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:I have one question: in the storyline for my team it says that Porsche enter F1 and supply my team with engines. So is it possible to run 2 manufacturers at once or do i have to have only one team which has to start producing the Posche engines?

In general, a user can own two separate entities, and occasionally a third one for a special one-off, so you can create Porsche on the side.

However, just to be a bit more realistic, don't make engines just for yourself, it's no fun :P

Of course it wasn't intended to make engines just for Loyer. Porsche will produce engines for everyone who want's them.

Why would you ever want Porsche when Bentley and O.S.C.A. exist? You know it makes sense.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 11:11
by DemocalypseNow
pasta_maldonado wrote:Why would you ever want Porsche when Bentley and O.S.C.A. exist? You know it makes sense.

Again with this?

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 14:17
by Phoenix
EDIT: I've wrapped up a deal with Biscione for the Mercedes engines, valued at £850.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 15:54
by DemocalypseNow
Phoenix wrote:EDIT: I've wrapped up a deal with Biscione for the Mercedes engines, valued at £850.

To clarify, thats £850 for the lot, not per unit!

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 22:03
by Rated
Heeeeeeere we go, I wish to enter a team in 1955 if possible. A small privateer building its own chassis, of course, we need lel.

L'Automobile wrote:France's leaning F1 car ?

French inventor François Guidobaldi has been working for years on a leaning single seater racing prototype. He is now rumoured to enter a car in the 1955 Formula One season. Guidobaldi's theory is that the most important feature of a leaning car must be a low center of gravity and perfect weight distribution. However, for the system to work properly, an in-house engine must be designed specifically and Guidobaldi has yet to work on it. None of this kind of vehicles has been successful so far but we are willing to see what this car is capable to achieve. More informations on the principle of a leaning car in the next edition of L'Automobile.


The team is located in Antibes, France.
Not building our in-house engine at the moment, because I'm willing to try to make this team last for a while.

So yes, as far I know, Guidobaldi actually built a car in the 50s, the Guidomobile. It never really raced. The project was pretty much built by a single man and wasn't a success.
Am I crap at writing stories and background ? YES !
Will it be competitive ? Nope.
Will it be mismanaged ? Most likely.
Do we wish to buy your old engines ? YOU BET WE DO. WE WILL BARELY HAVE MONIES !

More infos on this project if you are interested : http://www.guidobaldi.fr (also available in english, but with less informations apparently)

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 01 Nov 2014, 17:22
by tommykl
Rated wrote:Heeeeeeere we go, I wish to enter a team in 1955 if possible. A small privateer building its own chassis, of course, we need lel.

L'Automobile wrote:France's leaning F1 car ?

French inventor François Guidobaldi has been working for years on a leaning single seater racing prototype. He is now rumoured to enter a car in the 1955 Formula One season. Guidobaldi's theory is that the most important feature of a leaning car must be a low center of gravity and perfect weight distribution. However, for the system to work properly, an in-house engine must be designed specifically and Guidobaldi has yet to work on it. None of this kind of vehicles has been successful so far but we are willing to see what this car is capable to achieve. More informations on the principle of a leaning car in the next edition of L'Automobile.


The team is located in Antibes, France.
Not building our in-house engine at the moment, because I'm willing to try to make this team last for a while.

So yes, as far I know, Guidobaldi actually built a car in the 50s, the Guidomobile. It never really raced. The project was pretty much built by a single man and wasn't a success.
Am I crap at writing stories and background ? YES !
Will it be competitive ? Nope.
Will it be mismanaged ? Most likely.
Do we wish to buy your old engines ? YOU BET WE DO. WE WILL BARELY HAVE MONIES !

More infos on this project if you are interested : http://www.guidobaldi.fr (also available in english, but with less informations apparently)

Nicely written. Your goal being absolute kekitude, you also get a true budget of kek, consisting of £60 000 :P

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 12:10
by Klon
Might as well take care of this in 1954:
Mercedes scraps the damaged chassis 3 as well as all of its engines, except engines 1 and 14. Engine 1 will stay where it is, whereas engine 14 will be send to François Guidobaldi, transport costs covered by Mercedes.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 14:16
by tommykl
Klon wrote:Might as well take care of this in 1954:
Mercedes scraps the damaged chassis 3 as well as all of its engines, except engines 1 and 14. Engine 1 will stay where it is, whereas engine 14 will be send to François Guidobaldi, transport costs covered by Mercedes.

Off-season transfers don't have travel costs, and even then, only chassis matter in this case, so it's free of charge :)

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 18:08
by Rated
Klon wrote:Might as well take care of this in 1954:
Mercedes scraps the damaged chassis 3 as well as all of its engines, except engines 1 and 14. Engine 1 will stay where it is, whereas engine 14 will be send to François Guidobaldi, transport costs covered by Mercedes.


François Guidobaldi thanks Mercedes Benz's management a lot for their generous gift.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix/Post-season auction on pag

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 18:13
by tommykl
Right, seeing as the auction process seems to have slowed down, I will close the auction on Sunday, November 9th 2014 at 1pm CET.

Re: Alt-1954 - Italian Grand Prix up! Post-season auction!

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 19:51
by DemocalypseNow
-Mercedes UM153 engine 13 - £220
-Ultimate chassis 002b - £120
-Ultimate chassis 002a - £120
-O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 2 - £120
-O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 3 - £120

New Renzo bids.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 20:06
by pasta_maldonado
Scuderia Anglo Italia bid £276 for Bentley 53C chassis 1.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 20:20
by DemocalypseNow
Renzo donates Merecedes UM153 engine 10 to Guidobaldi. There are clauses attached to the donation, which if not fulfilled give Renzo the right to repossess any single engine in the possession of Guidobaldi, or £1000 cash if the team does not have any engines.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 20:45
by Nessafox
I know it's earlt, but the plans for ENB in 1955 are very simple: enter 4 crappy cars in Spa for Milhoux, Gendebien, Bianchi and debutant Dernier. That's probably all we will have budget for, so Gendebien and Milhoux are for hire! I'm impatiently waiting for 1956, because i'll have 7 Belgian drivers that i could debut! (only 2 of them were actual F1 drivers, and they were only one-off entries, so that's going to be reject heaven)

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 14:23
by Samster
Ambrosiana will put the following up for auction starting from £500 each or £1,300 for all three.

Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 1
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 2
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 3

Ambrosiana A-003 chassis 2 will be scrapped. We will keep chassis 1 as a spare for 1955.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 16:52
by tommykl
Samster wrote:Ambrosiana will put the following up for auction starting from £500 each or £1,300 for all three.

Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 1
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 2
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 3

Ambrosiana A-003 chassis 2 will be scrapped. We will keep chassis 1 as a spare for 1955.

Regarding the auction, there is no minimum bid, so unless you change your offer, these will be put up for regular sale.

A-003 chassis 2 has indeed been scrapped.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 18:00
by Samster
tommykl wrote:
Samster wrote:Ambrosiana will put the following up for auction starting from £500 each or £1,300 for all three.

Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 1
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 2
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 3

Ambrosiana A-003 chassis 2 will be scrapped. We will keep chassis 1 as a spare for 1955.

Regarding the auction, there is no minimum bid, so unless you change your offer, these will be put up for regular sale.

A-003 chassis 2 has indeed been scrapped.


Just put them up for regular sale then. How much did I get for scrapping chassis 2?

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 18:52
by tommykl
Samster wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Samster wrote:Ambrosiana will put the following up for auction starting from £500 each or £1,300 for all three.

Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 1
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 2
Ambrosiana A-002 chassis 3

Ambrosiana A-003 chassis 2 will be scrapped. We will keep chassis 1 as a spare for 1955.

Regarding the auction, there is no minimum bid, so unless you change your offer, these will be put up for regular sale.

A-003 chassis 2 has indeed been scrapped.


Just put them up for regular sale then. How much did I get for scrapping chassis 2?

£2 000

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 19:51
by DemocalypseNow
Ecurie Voeckler cements their 1955 F1 campaign

The small but ambitious garagista outfit Ecurie Voeckler, headed up by major Alsthom stakeholder Jean-Francois Voeckler, have secured the finances require to start up their entry, and have been able to expand on their original plans.

"We might a slight overestimation of the costs to run, and so now we're confident of both entering one car full time, and another at selected events," said Voeckler. "We are very close to having the drivers in place, with Andre Simon hopefully doing the entire year and Etancelin joining us at some races."

The new team will be based out of north-east of Paris, close to both Alsthom HQ and also the Voeckler family home. While the home base has been set up, the cars have not, but Voeckler are not concerned about not having any equipment before the turn of the year.

"We want to take our time and evaluate our options," explained Voeckler. "We will certainly be a customer team to begin with, but perhaps one day we could manufacture our own cars."

"For the sake of convenience, it could be easiest just to buy Gordini equipment, as it's local. But we aren't going to be as close minded - we want to do things right, and will try to get the best we can for what our budget allows."


If it's allowed already, Voeckler will buy the lot of those Ambrosiana chassis, but we offer £1200 for the lot. If not, Renzo offers the same amount instead.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 04 Nov 2014, 20:04
by tommykl
Biscione wrote:
Ecurie Voeckler cements their 1955 F1 campaign

The small but ambitious garagista outfit Ecurie Voeckler, headed up by major Alsthom stakeholder Jean-Francois Voeckler, have secured the finances require to start up their entry, and have been able to expand on their original plans.

"We might a slight overestimation of the costs to run, and so now we're confident of both entering one car full time, and another at selected events," said Voeckler. "We are very close to having the drivers in place, with Andre Simon hopefully doing the entire year and Etancelin joining us at some races."

The new team will be based out of north-east of Paris, close to both Alsthom HQ and also the Voeckler family home. While the home base has been set up, the cars have not, but Voeckler are not concerned about not having any equipment before the turn of the year.

"We want to take our time and evaluate our options," explained Voeckler. "We will certainly be a customer team to begin with, but perhaps one day we could manufacture our own cars."

"For the sake of convenience, it could be easiest just to buy Gordini equipment, as it's local. But we aren't going to be as close minded - we want to do things right, and will try to get the best we can for what our budget allows."


If it's allowed already, Voeckler will buy the lot of those Ambrosiana chassis, but we offer £1200 for the lot. If not, Renzo offers the same amount instead.

Everything is in order, you get £150 000.

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 11:55
by Peteroli34
Anglo - Racing Engineering Will bid for the following

Maserati AM53 chassis 8 - £220
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 2 - £150
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 3- £150

Re: Alt-1954 - Post-season auction (P16) closes on Sunday!

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 12:09
by DemocalypseNow
Renzo bids for;
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 2 - £175
O.S.C.A. 3000V8 engine 3- £175