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Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 09:45
by Shizuka
Let's do the old system then...
So: Japan
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Button
5. Hamilton
6. Schumacher
1. Webber: 70 points
2. Alonso: 67 points
3. Vettel: 64 points
4. Hamilton: 61 points
5. Button: 55 points
6. Massa: 30 points
8. Rosberg: 24 points
7. Kubica: 22 points
9. Schumacher: 8 points
10. Barrichello: 6 points
11. Sutil: 5 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 point - Tie-breaker: 7th place
14. Hülkenberg: 1 point - No 7th places
Constructors
1. Red Bull -- 134
2. McLaren -- 116
3. Ferrari -- 97
4. Mercedes -- 32
5. Renault -- 25
6. Williams -- 6
7. Force India -- 5
8. Sauber -- 1
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 09:38
by TomWazzleshaw
2003-2009 points system
Korea:
1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Schumacher
5. Kubica
6. Liuzzi
7. Barrichello
8. Kobayashi
Standings:
Drivers:
1. Alonso: 93 points
2. Webber: 88 points
3. Hamilton: 87 points
4. Vettel: 84 points
5. Button: 77 points
6. Massa: 56 points
7. Kubica: 48 points
8. Rosberg: 47 points
9. Schumacher: 23 points
10. Barrichello: 15 points (Barrichello ahead on countback)
11. Sutil: 15 points
12. Kobayashi: 9 points
13. Petrov: 6 points
14. Liuzzi: 5 points (Liuzzi ahead on countback)
15. Hulkenberg: 5 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point (Buemi ahead on countback)
18. Heidfeld: 1 point
Teams:
1. Red Bull: 172 points
2. McLaren: 164 points
3. Ferrari: 149 points
4. Mercedes: 69 points
5. Renault: 54 points
6. Williams: 20 points (Williams ahead on countback)
7. Force India: 20 points
8. Sauber: 12 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 10:38
by Ferrim
1991-2002 points system
Drivers:
1. Alonso: 77 points
2. Webber: 70 points
3. Hamilton: 67 points
4. Vettel: 64 points
5. Button: 55 points
6. Massa: 34 points
7. Kubica: 24 points (ahead on countback)
8. Rosberg: 24 points
9. Schumacher: 11 points
10. Barrichello: 6 points
11. Sutil: 5 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 points (ahead on countback)
14. Liuzzi: 1 point (ahead on countback)
15. Hulkenberg: 1 point
Teams:
1. Red Bull: 134 points
2. McLaren: 122 points
3. Ferrari: 111 points
4. Mercedes: 35 points
5. Renault: 26 points
6. Williams: 7 points
7. Force India: 6 points
8. Sauber: 1 point
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 14:26
by tommykl
I can't access Cynon's standings
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 20:23
by Shadaza
[quote="Wizzie"]2003-2009 points system
10. Barrichello: 15 points (Barrichello ahead on countback)
11. Sutil: 15 points
14. Liuzzi: 5 points (Liuzzi ahead on countback)
15. Hulkenberg: 5 points
Teams
6. Force India: 21 points
7. Williams: 18 points
Um? shouldn't they be equal on 20 each?
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 07 Nov 2010, 02:25
by TomWazzleshaw
Shadaza wrote:Wizzie wrote:2003-2009 points system
10. Barrichello: 15 points (Barrichello ahead on countback)
11. Sutil: 15 points
14. Liuzzi: 5 points (Liuzzi ahead on countback)
15. Hulkenberg: 5 points
Teams
6. Force India: 21 points
7. Williams: 18 points
Um? shouldn't they be equal on 20 each?
You're right... somehow I stuffed up their points in Japan aswell with the flow-on effects into Korea
EDIT: Just did a check of the past few races and it seems that Shizuka forgot to add Hulkenberg's 7th place at Italy to the team's total and both of us stuffed up royally with Hulkenberg's result in Singapore aswell and neither of us picked up on either error...
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 07 Nov 2010, 18:47
by Ferrim
1991-02
Alonso 81
Webber 76
Vettel 74
Hamilton 70
Button 57
Massa 34
Rosberg 25
Kubica 24
Schumacher 11
Barrichello 6
Sutil 5
Petrov 2
Kobayashi 1
Liuzzi 1
Hulkenberg 1
Red Bull 150 (WC)
McLaren 127
Ferrari 115
Mercedes 36
Renault 26
Williams 7
Force India 6
Sauber 1
Toro Rosso 0
2003-09
Alonso 99
Webber 96
Vettel 94
Hamilton 92
Button 81
Massa 57
Kubica 51
Rosberg 47
Schumacher 23
Sutil 15
Barrichello 15
Kobayashi 9
Petrov 6
Hulkenberg 6
Liuzzi 5
Buemi 1
De la Rosa 2
Heidfeld 1
Red Bull 190
McLaren 173
Ferrari 156
Mercedes 70
Renault 57
Force India 20
Williams 21
Sauber 12
Toro Rosso 1
Still with a shot at the title
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 09 Nov 2010, 10:09
by Warren Hughes
Interesting comparison of the championship permutations using each system:
1991-2002
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
2003-2009
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
2010
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
Funny that.
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 08:36
by SuperAguri
Using the really old system of 8-6-4-3-2 with a point for fastest lap then by jolly webber only has an outside chance.
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Vettel 83 (ironically Champion in how Bernie wanted it with most wins...)
Webber 75 (would need a win and fastest lap and hope vettel gets zero points)
Alonso 67
Hamilton 65
Button 45
Massa 33
Kubica 25
Rosberg 21
Schumacher 6
Barrichello 5
Sutil 4
Petrov 3
Using 60% of race results as they used to do in the old days (taking 1958 as the year), then the best 11 results would score points. then Vettel has the championship!
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Vettel 77 (if won or 2nd would lose a 3rd (so score 4 or 2 points), or score zero points for a 3rd, 4th or 5th)
Webber 71 (if won then would lose a 2nd (so score 2 points)
Alonso 65 (if won, 2nd or 3rd would lose a 4th (so score 5, 3 or 1 point)
Hamilton 63 (if won, 2nd or 3rd would lose a 4th (so score 5, 3 or 1 point)
Button 45
Massa 33
Kubica 25
Rosberg 21
Schumacher 6
Barrichello 5
Sutil 4
Petrov 3
Using the 1980 to 1984 system then it would be closer!
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Webber 78
Vettel 77
Alonso 72
Hamilton 64
Button 46
Massa 27
Kubica 25
Rosberg 22
Schumacher 7
Barrichello 6
Sutil 5
Petrov 2
Kobayashi 1
Hulkenberg 1
Liuzzi 1
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 23:33
by Waris
Warren Hughes wrote:Interesting comparison of the championship permutations using each system:
1991-2002
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
2003-2009
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
2010
Webber needs to win with Alonso 3rd or worse
Vettel needs to win with Alonso 5th or worse
Funny that.
Can you please compare them with the 1960-1990 and 1950-1959 points systems too? Please?? :3
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 18:04
by Aerond
1991-02 - FINAL STANDINGS -
Vettel 84
Alonso 81
Webber 76
Hamilton 76
Button 61
Massa 34
Rosberg 28
Kubica 26
Schumacher 11
Barrichello 6
Sutil 5
Petrov 3
Kobayashi 1
Liuzzi 1
Hulkenberg 1
Petrov unrejectifies himself!
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 18:42
by Shizuka
Red Bull - 160
McLaren - 137
Ferrari - 115
Mercedes - 39
Renault - 29
Williams - 7
Force India 6
Sauber - 1
Also, 2003-09 system
Vettel - 104
Alonso - 101
Hamilton - 100
Webber - 97
Button - 87
Massa - 57
Kubica - 55
Rosberg - 52
Schumacher - 23
Sutil - 15
Barrichello - 15
Kobayashi - 9
Petrov - 9
Hulkenberg - 6
Liuzzi - 5
Buemi - 1
De la Rosa - 2
Heidfeld - 1
Red Bull 201
McLaren 187
Ferrari 158
Mercedes 75
Renault 64
Force India 20
Williams 21
Sauber 12
Toro Rosso 1
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 19:58
by dr-baker
Shizuka wrote:Also, 2003-09 system
Vettel - 104
Alonso - 101
Hamilton - 100
Another season under that points system where Alonso and Hamilton end up on (almost) the same points, very close behind the eventual champion?
Re: 2010 - Old points system
Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 20:36
by Aerospeed
dr-baker wrote:Shizuka wrote:Also, 2003-09 system
Vettel - 104
Alonso - 101
Hamilton - 100
Another season under that points system where Alonso and Hamilton end up on (almost) the same points, very close behind the eventual champion?
And being trumped by the person who is third going into the final race?
In both standings, Vettel wins by three.
In real standings, Vettel wins by four.
