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Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 04 Sep 2010, 12:18
by Phoenix
Whole Spanish Press linking FNippon driver Pedro de la Rosa to a future place at Precision Motorsport in 1998, as he'd bring Repsol money and it's rumoured the team may be in desperate need of this money.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 04 Sep 2010, 13:11
by Valrys
From: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
Jeroen,
While it's sad that Ed has had to leave the team (he was such a good laugh and an excellent driver), I'd just like to thank you for having faith in me and promoting me to the race seat! I won't let you down, and it comes as a surprise, as in your situation I may have bowed to the pressue of the German press and given a young German the drive.
Now, committing to the full season with Precision obviously leaves me unable to race over in America, and this may affect the Pennzoil sponsorship deal which was signed assuming I'd do a good proportion of the season. I've arranged a meeting with Pennzoil, and I'll fly to America later this week, and I hope to be able to persuade them to switch their full backing to Precision. If possible, would a member of team management be able to fly out with me, as I haven't been at the team that long yet, and so don't quite know the in's and out's of everything yet if Pennzoil ask any tricky questions!
I'm also going to speak to Niko, and possibly arrange a CART test for him, so he has something to fall back on if he can't get an F3000 seat.
Regards
Alex V.
To: Niko Nurminen (
[email protected])
From: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
Niko,
I'm flying over to the US later this week to meet with my sponsers Pennzoil, as I will be unable to fufill my CART commitments due to racing full-time for Precision, and if you'd be interested I'd like you to come along as well, and I'll arrange a CART test with Walker Racing (who were expanding to two cars to run me alongside Gil De Ferran this year, so I'd feel bad for leaving them high and dry) with the possibility of you taking over for a partial campaign in the series. Obviously, this wouldn't be a free drive, but there's a few months before the season starts, and between us, we should be able to hammer out a few sponsorship deals. Now, I know you were trying to get a F3000 seat, and this is a more obvious path to an F1 drive, but I think you should explore every potential opportunity, as having a year out only testing will leave you a tad rusty in the racecraft department.
Regards
Alex
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 04 Sep 2010, 13:44
by Enforcer
To: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Hi Alex,
First and foremost, congratulations on your promotion to a race seat.
I'm kust letting you know, in case you weren't already aware, that Martin Smith will be your race engineer. He was previously assigned to Ed. I know he's got a somewhat dour demeanour, but he'll listen to your input and he's developed something of a reputation as being a changeable weather specialist in F3 and F3000. If you can't get on with him, you better tell me in private, because it might take a while for me to find you another one, and your best not falling out with Martin in the meantime.
Regards,
Ronan Griffin,
Technical Director
This email is private, so everyone in the RP but Jeroen has to operate on the assumption they haven't seen it.
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL
Hi Jeroen,
The first PRM01 passed its FIA crash test, so we're free to use the design on a track. We're going to repair the chassis and use it for any future crash testing that is required as we update the car. Chassis 002 and 003 will be the first to be driven on track. I should be able to give you a date for completion in the next few days, so we can book the Nurburgring for a shakedown.
We've continued gearbox testing, and whilst the internal components are now ready for a grand prix weekend, we're still having problems with cracked casings, most likely caused by vibration. We'll keep working on it.
Finally, I'm slightly concerned about Alex Katamajaki's... 'outbursts'. I know we're allowing people a good deal of slack to keep things informal around the factory, and I by no means want to see that changed, but I'm not sure having one of our drivers swearing at the media and suggesting who we should bring into the team is the way forward. To be perfectly blunt, he reminds me of what I was like at that age. Sponors, media etc. barely tolerated that attitude from drivers in the 80s and early 90s, I think they're even less likely to take it for very long now. Which means he's likely to end his career with one leg, none of his ex team-bosses talking to him, and bucketloads of underacheivement and what-ifs.
Since we don't have a permanent HR manager, it's up to you and me to decide how to handle this. He's got a lot of talent, and I'd rather not alienate him from the team. I could try talking to him, since I've been there, done that, and bought the wheelchair, although if he is like me, he probably won't listen. We could let it slide for the moment, he may quieten down once he's in the car and doing his job. Or we could suggest he get a manager, to 'refine' him since he doesn't seem to have one. I could approach him about becoming his manager either.
Ultimately, the decision is yours, but I think we're best keeping it between ourselves for the moment.
Regards,
Ronan Griffin,
Techincal Director
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 04 Sep 2010, 19:33
by Nuppiz
To: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
From: Niko Nurminen (
[email protected])
Re: CART test
Alex,
I'm intrigued by your offer of a Stateside trip and a possible CART test drive. After seeing what Villeneuve did last year, I've become more convinced of the CART series' competitiveness with Formula One. Although the CART cars are bit different than F1 or F3000, I'm sure that the experience wouldn't be of any harm, and it's muchh better than nothing if I fail to get a F3000 drive. I'll contact my sponsors soon to know if they're interested in this as well.
Thanks,
Niko
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 04 Sep 2010, 21:48
by watka
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: Üwe Müller (
[email protected])
Subject: Precision Motorsports in F1
Good day Mr Krautmeir,
We at Porsche's motorsport division have been observing your entry and progression into Formula 1 for the upcoming 1997 season. We are naturally delighted to see a German constructor once again competing in Formula 1 and we hope that your team can do the country proud.
I am writing in regard to possible future collaboration between your team and Porsche Motorsport. For a while now, Porsche as a company has expressed a desire now to become involved on Formula 1 once again, although this has only been discussed at board level recently, and we have no clear plans or decisions made as to the nature of this proposed involvement. However, seeing a German team like yours spring up and entering Formula 1 has been encouraging, and we feel that it would be possible to collaborate with a team, and be more involved in supporting a team than solely being engine suppliers as we were in the 1980s.
It is very possible that Porsche will become involved in Formula 1 in some way in the 1998 season. Your team, at least on the evidence so far, appears to be a solid base on which Porsche Motorsport could build upon, to the benefit of both Precision Motorsports and the Porsche brand. I would be very interested in finding out more about your ambitions and your team's infrastructure in the near future. We would very much like to discuss your team further by way of a meeting. Please let me know if this would be possible.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Üwe Müller
Director of MotorsportsPorsche AG
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 10:30
by MinardiFan95
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: David Simpson (
[email protected])
Testing Results
Daniel and myself have had two very productive days of testing at Oran Park and Eastern Creek. The Formula C kart is easily the best kart I have ever driven, even though it did take me a while to get used to it. The engineers agreed that the day was a success. Below are my my fastest laps recorded on each day
Fastest laps:
Oran Park (North Circuit): 27.78
Eastern Creek (Southern Loop): 31.37
Cheers,
David Simpson.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 12:36
by Jeroen Krautmeir
From: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
To: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
Re: Drive
Hi Alex.
First of all, I'm happy to have brought you onboard, and I think you deserve this race seat. Obviously, the German tabloids were pressuring me to hire a German driver, but with you and Niko onboard, I didn't see the point of bringing in someone new. I'll make it clear to you that I will never succumb to pressure from the press. Its my team, and I'll do what I think is best. We all miss Ed, though everyone is still waiting for his official press release.
About the Pennzoil sponsorship, while it would provide the team with much needed funding, it would be fine if they won't end up joining. Of course, I would like to see them stay, and I'll be sending a representative with you to the United States. His name is Jasper Monsech, and he's fluent in English, German and French. He's a fairly good negotiator, and should be able to push Pennzoil into staying with us. Is Niko coming along? Because if you haven't made any hospitality arrangements yet, I'd be happy to arrange everything. One more thing, expect to be in the PRM01 very soon. Maybe not this month, but perhaps mid-January. Of course, you'll have the Reynard test in a short while, but there's no pressure.
Regards,
Jeroen.
From: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
To: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Re: Car/Alex K.
Hello Ronan,
That's great news, and I hope to see it on track fairly soon. With December coming to a close soon, it'll leave us with less than 3 months for upgrades and fixes. We'll let the workers take the whole week off for Christmas, and hopefully they'll return all fully charged. I'm worried about the continuous gearbox failures. I know you're working on it, but I suggest you devote more time to sorting the chassis out first. If you can sort out most of the problems before the Christmas break that would be spectacular, but take your time. I don't want my team to have Life/Andrea Moda standard-type equipment.
Alex Katamajaki's remarks are indeed outbursts in my view. He's not proving the most popular of kids in the German media, and I'm surprised that the German chancellor himself hasn't forced me to get rid of him. He's not exactly the most controllable person in the world, but if you could talk to him, it would be great. Like you said, we could stand to lose sponsors if this continues, but the good news for now is that Bitburger and Lufthansa both have a 2 year contract, and if they were to pull out at this point it would cost them a great amount of money to pay us off. Not that we want to see them go, but at least there's a short-term cash flow if they did leave. So yes, please try and talk to him. If that fails in one way or another, please tell me, and I'll have a go at him myself. Yes, he does have heaps of talent, but his mouth is quite 'crazy' to say the least.
A few weeks ago I talked about the possible deal with Porsche. While at that point of time they didn't seem very interested in getting involved directly, Üwe Müller, Porsche Director of Motorsports, has sent me another email, and the text is extremely promising. Their delighted at our entry, and they are interested in collaborating with us in at least one way or another. Obviously, its too late to make an engine change, but their hoping to sign a deal for the 1998 season. I will be meeting up with their officials, and I was hoping you could come along, though this is all up to your availability. The full email that was sent to me has been attached accordingly.
Regards,
Jeroen.
From: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
To: David Simpson (
[email protected])
Re: Testing Results
Hey David.
I'm happy that you two have managed to get together, and obviously its a good thing that you both happen to live in the same country. I'm sure you two are socializing quite often with each other, and I hope these tests continue frequently. Obviously, don't get injured, as even though Formula C only starts during the third weekend of Formula 1, it will take time to recover. Good luck with the rest of your preparations, and pass my regards to young Daniel.
Jeroen.
From: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
To: Üwe Müller (
[email protected])
Re: Precision Motorsports in F1
Good day to you, Herr Müller.
A few weeks ago when I contacted you, it didn't seem like a partnership with Precision Motorsports and Porsche were going anywhere, so this new news is extremely promising. Our expectations are not that high for 1997. For a start, we would like to beat fellow newcomers Stewart Grand Prix. We also want regular points finishes, and hope to finish ahead of even Minardi and Tyrrell. Our Renault engine which was used in 1995 is a bit down on power, but we're confident we can extract the most out of it.
Obviously Precision Motorsports needs a works engine deal, and with Porsche being a German company, it would suit our image of being the future of German motorsports. A linkup with Precision would do much, and we would be willing to make you more than just engine suppliers. A meeting is indeed possible, and if we could meet up at Porsche HQ on perhaps next Thursday, that would be great. I'll be bringing with me my Techincal Director Ronan Griffin, who is vital to our team. He may not be German, but he has lots of talent. I hope you can understand my approach here.
Regards,
Jeroen Krautmeir.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 05 Sep 2010, 14:43
by watka
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: Üwe Müller (
[email protected])
Subject: Re: Meeting
Mr Krautmeir,
I would be delighted to visit your premises with a few of my team members this coming Thursday. I look forward to observing the inner workings of your team, and hopefully we will be able to highlight some possible areas where we can help each other out in the challenging world of motorsports.
I reiterate my understanding that there is obviously little chance to be involved in the team for the 1997 F1 season due to all of the deals that you currently have in place. However, I do suggest that for the following season, you may wish to look elsewhere for your power-plants as the Renault engines that you have as they are already a few years out of date. As you admit, this will be a challenging season for the team, as it is for any new F1 entrant.
Regards,
Dr Üwe Müller
Director of MotorsportsPorsche AG
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 08:30
by TomWazzleshaw
From: Daniel Melrose (
[email protected])
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
Testing results
Hey Mr Krautmeir
The two days of testing have been successful as I'm pretty much up to speed with these karts. I must say that these karts have a phenominal amount of grip and are certainly alot faster than anything I've ever driven. Here are my testing times over the 2 days:
Oran Park (North Circuit): 28.36
Eastern Creek (Southern Loop): 32.28
Dave and I are getting along well and I have to say that Dave is one incredibly talented driver as he's consistantly been about half a second faster than me but with more testing I can close the gap down.
One more thing. In recent days I've managed to gain some sponsorship in the form of mining giant BHP Billiton and they require me to do a test at Barbagallo in the kart in a few days time with your permission of course.
Daniel
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 12:53
by watka
David Simpson half a second faster in karts than future F1 champion Melrose! He must be one hell of a driver!
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 20:01
by Enforcer
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Hi Jeroen,
Thanks for your approval to proceed with regards to Alex. I'll talk to him just as soon as I figure out what to say.
I'm relieved to learn of Porche's change of heart. I was concerned with their attitude of selling us an engine design and then effectively washing their hands of it without even assembling a working engine. To be honest, I was so concerned about it, that I was thinking of suggesting that you approach Mugen Honda instead, since Prost are likely to drop them next season. But this contact from Mr. Muller changes everything. An engine partnership with them, with full co-operation between our staff and theirs with regards to development of a full drivetrain (ie. engine, ECU, clutch, gearbox, driveshaft) would be ideal. But even if we don't get such a partnership, an exclusive works deal for engines which will be continuously developed over the length of the contract would be a massive step forward from our current position. Naturally, I'll happily attend a meeting with them, if required.
I'm aware of the tight deadline, and I can have two chassis ready for a shakedown by the weekend of the 20th and 21st of December.It'll be a nice boost for both the technical staff and the drivers before Christmas. We will be short spare parts, but I'm happy with the quality control we've employed so far, so we should get useful running time. At least 20 laps or more per car. Although if anything does break it'll likely end the session for that car. If you're happy to go ahead with that, book the Nurburgring for that weekend. With regards to the gearbox specifically, Niko "aquired" some design info for Benetton's current gearbox design which I believe will help iron out the casing issues.
Regards,
Ronan Griffin,
Techincal Director.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 20:10
by Valrys
From: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
To: Niko Nurminen (
[email protected]), Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
Hi,
All the arrangements are made for our little stateside jaunt, and thank you Jeroen for arranging for Jasper to come along, I've met him a couple of times since beginning negotiations with Precision for a drive, and I'm sure he'll provide the extra little push that Pennzoil will need to stay with us. Niko, I've confirmed a test at Laguna Seca with Walker Racing for you, so you'll probably want to familiarise yourself with the track layout, and I'll try and get some video footage of past races there for you to look at before the test. Derrick Walker has also said that if your testing times are promising enough, he'll go to Ashland Inc. (Owners of team sponsor Valvoline) and try and squeeze a few extra dollars out of them for you, so, the pressure is on, but I'm sure you'll step up to the plate and get the job done!
Regards
Alex
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 20:34
by Enforcer
To: Alex Katamajaki (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Cc: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
Hi Alex,
Just a quick word about talking to the media. Don't give them anything other than dull as dishwater PR quotes about how happy you are to be racing for whomever you're racing for, and how great F1 is. Seriously, if you give them any 'memorable' quotes, they'll start asking progressively stupider and more ridiculous questions to provoke more memorable quotes, and it'll get tiresome quickly.
After I gave a smart-arsed answer when asked was I happy to win the Hungarian Grand Prix in 1990 (I think I said something along the lines of "No, I'm going to collapse into an alcoholic wreck and kill myself"), they gleefully jumped all over me when I retired from the next five races. I swear, if I ever hear "Well, Ronan, are you happy to have dumped your car in the barriers or will you be killing yourself?" again, it'll be too soon. Of course, by that stage, I'd already laid the groundwork by making most of the F1 media hate me during my stint with Arrows.
You definitely shouldn't say you don't want to be a specific driver's team-mate. You never know what eejit you could end up partnered with (although obviously not here, we'll only hire quality drivers). As a matter of fact, don't fall out with any driver unless he runs you off the road. Then you can deride him all you want, since it'll be his fault. And your best keeping your language PG-rated. Telling a journalist to f*** off cost me my Jordan seat in 1992 and I had to go to the States for that nightmare a season in a country that wouldn't appreciate a good driver if someone took the DNA of Gilles Villeneuve, Alain Prost, and Ayrton Senna and made a super driver. And then called him Chuck Nascar Washington Jnr. III for good measure. You really don't want to go through that.
Anyway, if you ever want interivew or PR bullsh*t advice, consider my door open. Somehow, I don't think I'll need to advise you on the driving side.
Regards,
Ronan.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 06 Sep 2010, 20:47
by DemocalypseNow
Enforcer wrote:From: Alex Katamajaki (
[email protected])
To: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Cc: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
Ronan,
Alright then...but if some numpty shoves me off the road I WILL be forthright about it. There's reciting PR after a normal race, and there's dealing with a blind f***er who can't tell left from right that tries to kill me during a race.
Just send me a PDF with some generic quotes I can use or something...otherwise I'll be too 'individualistic' for the team's standards.
Alex
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 07 Sep 2010, 08:46
by Nuppiz
From: Niko Nurminen (
[email protected])
To: Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
Re: Laguna Seca test
It's great to hear that everything has now been arranged! I've seen a couple of races from Laguna Seca on the satellite TV, but every little bit of info you can provide about the track helps. It is also good to hear that if (and when) I'll do a good enough job, I've got ome American sponsorship behind me as well. Most of my Finnish sponsors have no interest on the American market, but I'm still waiting for a reply from Nokia (who sponsored Tyrrell in '95 and are now trying to conquer the American market, which helps my chances a lot). And, because most of the F3000 teams have turned me down because they've already got their drivers hired (the only proper offer came from my former F1 team Pacific, and I don't think they will do any better in F3000 than in F1), it's more than likely that I'll join the CART series if the test goes well (of which I have no doubts about).
Regards,
Niko
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 07:15
by Jeroen Krautmeir
Apologies for not being able to RP at all yesterday. I couldn't access the site, while any other website was ok. Stupid servers...
From: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
To: Daniel Melrose (
[email protected])
Re: Testing Results
Hi Daniel.
I'm delighted to hear how well you and David are getting along. Yes, your times are indeed slightly slower than David's, but taking into account how young you are, you have already exceeded most of my expectations. Use David as your next target, and once that's done, just push the hell out of yourself. Don't get me wrong, but BHP Billiton have something to do with oil, yes? Currently, Precision Motorsports also has a deal with Pennzoil, who also have things to do with petroleum. I'm worried of a possible clash, so please ask the Billiton executives exactly how much their about the pay us. Better still, ask one of their representatives to contact me directly. Please do not mention the existing deal with Pennzoil. But I'm not discouraging you from going for the test, go for it! Good luck with the rest of your preparations, my young friend.
Regards,
Jeroen.
From: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
To: Alex Valrey (
[email protected]), Niko Nurminen (
[email protected])
Re: US Trip
Hi Alex, Niko.
First of all to Niko, thanks for you 'acquisition' of the Benetton equipment. As for Alex, I have to thank you for giving Niko a chance in the US of A. It would have been hard for me to try and find him a drive, and just as he mentioned, most of the Formula 3000 teams have already finalized their driver lineups. CART is, however, less technologically sophisticated than Formula 1, and this means that Niko will be more used to more 'basic' stuff. Its good in my opinion, as at least I'll know how good Niko really is, as with all the crazy systems on an F1 car, its easy for Ron Dennis to put someone like Riccardo Rosset in a McLaren and he'll still put up a fairly good time, unless he bins it, which he probably would. Niko, all I can say is, do your very best. Don't try and do something crazy, but just do your best. I don't think anybody is asking for a Senna-type performance, but I'd be happy for you just to do well enough to get the sponsorship money. And no, I don't want the money. Sure, it would be a nice boost, but I really don't mind if you miss out on the bucks.
About sponsorship, I have to ask both of you something. Alex, a few days back, Daniel Melrose, part of our young driver program if you haven't noticed, told me about a possible deal with BHP Billiton. If I'm not mistaken, both Pennzoil and BHP are involved in the petroleum business, and so I fear a possible clash in sponsors. Could you ask one of your Pennzoil executives how much their offering? I don't want to put back your US trip, as everything has been set, all I need to know is how much they'll put up for the team. I'll eventually choose the sponsor with more money, though preferably, I would like Pennzoil, as negotiations have already begun, unlike BHP. Niko, if you want a PM official to help with your Nokia chances, I would be happy to send one, though its all up to you. Have a great time in the US, and make sure to send postcards!
Regards,
Jeroen.
PORSCHE HEADQUARTERS
Good day, Mr. Müller, board of Porsche. As you all may know, I am Jeroen Krautmeir, President and Team Principal of Precision Motorsports. I am pretty sure we're all aware of why we're here. To discuss the possibility of a long-term partnership in Formula 1. I'm eager to see how Porsche as a whole see this possible deal. With me today is Technical Director Ronan Griffin, and I see him like a Vice President of the team. I'm sure we would like to get this meeting going, so I'll let Mr. Griffin start off by asking what exactly he would like to see.
Just a short monologue for the Porsche meeting. Enforcer! You're up, and get ready watka.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 09:58
by Enforcer
I'll probably need until this afternoon to think about it properly.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 14:17
by Jeroen Krautmeir
Take your time! We want to make this the best we can.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 14:43
by RLeb
I am currently finishing my Accounting and Finances degree, I would gladly take the "Director of Finance and Sponsorship" position
(Reggie LeBlanc)
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 16:20
by Enforcer
PORSCHE HQ:Hello Mr. Muller,
I believe what would be best here, would be for me to state the optimal outcome for Percision Motorsports, in terms of the technical end, and then for you to state what would be best for Porsche, and for us to work from there.
From a techincal standpoint, Precision Motorsports' preferred option would be a partnership for the production of a complete drivetrain, that is the engine and all associated electronics, the clutch, the gearbox and the driveshaft. This way, all components, both Porsche and Precision components, can be designed to fit together from day one, and be developed together, particularly if our partnership were to last several seasons. With a deal whereby the engine is constructed seperately from the rest of the car, we would have to wait for the schematics and then build our gearbox etc. to suit it, cutting down on the potential for development.
Whilst a long term 'supply-only' engine deal would also give us this oppurtunity in terms of development of our own equipment, a partnership also presents advantages in terms of construction costs for both parties - some of the equipment and expertise used to construct engine components could also be used to construct gearbox components and vice-a-versa.
The advantage from Porsche's point of view, as I'm sure you've realised, that in addition to the prestige of F1, is that our expertise would become your expertise. We've developed a 7-speed gearbox and innovative triple damper front suspension already. I'm sure the techology used could have applications in Porsche road cars. Even from a branding perspective, the Precision name could be useful, although I may straying into Mr. Krautmeir's territory here, I'm sure your aware of the Renault Clio that uses the Williams name for marketing purposes.
How do you feel about this?
I had it expressed better, but I lost the file after a power cut, and couldn't remember all of my exact phrases.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 13:43
by Captain Hammer
Wow, how could this thread have existed without my knowing?
Could we possibly create a spin-off (like NCIS: Los Angeles, but with more sexy and less Chris O'Donnell) thread, or at least a subplot that will come out to be a villain for the story as time goes by? I'm picturing an upstart young racer who wants to join the grid despite his questionable funding; the team rejects him and he goes elsewhere, only to come back with a vengeance as the season goes by. He and the team's drivers become bitter rivals as it becomes apparent that he won't be holding onto his racing seat, and he decides to do everything in his power to take Precision's drivers down with him.
I'll play the villain.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 16:12
by watka
PORSCHE HQ - STUTTGART:"Thank you very much for your presentation. As a board, we have discussed the technicalities of the partnership in detail, and your proposals are in line with our ideal specifications. As I have mentioned to you before, we would be looking to be more than just an engine manufacturer and would want to have an active part to play in developing the components of the car, rather than leaving this exclusively to the F1 team. I think in order to achieve maximum component harmonisation and a stable base on which to develop the car, it would be natural for Porsche to be involved in developing an engine, ECU, transmission, and driveshaft package. We have learnt a lot from our Le Mans programme with the 911 GT1, and I'm sure that we could put together a team and transfer most of these skills over into an F1 programme.
As for chassis design and aerodynamics, I think this is an area that we are less interested in being involved with, but we certainly have the facilities to be able to provide input in these areas. There would be less transferable skills in these areas because of the different requirements in Le Mans, so I think we should assess at a later date as to whether Precision Motorsports are capable and competent enough in this area for us not to need to have much input in this area.
Mr Krautmier, could we now discuss the more managerial aspects of this proposal? Obviously, we would like to have some sort of stake in ownership in the team, and be involved in the top level decisions of the team, because our company name would be at stake with this project. What are your views on the matter?"
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 03:40
by the Masked Lapwing
Greetings all, I am interested in apllying for a test driver seat with Precision Motorsport.
John Zimmer's the name, age 24, Australian.
Career:
1988 – Last year of kart racing, having raced for 10 years (moderate success)
1989-92 – Raced in Formula Ford Driver to Europe Series. Won championship in ‘91/’92
1993 – Raced in Formula Brabham. Ridiculously unsuccessful.
1994 – Return to Australian Formula Ford – 4th.
1995 – Raced in Australian Formula 3 – 3rd
1995 – Also drove for James Rosenberg Racing at Bathurst 1000 – Completed 136 laps (finished 16th) (Holden Commodore VP)
1996 – 3rd place in Australian Formula 2.
1997 – Applied for test seat at Precision Motorsport, maintaining role in F2 if necessary.
I bring sponsoship from Tooheys, an Australian beer company. I hope that your team may find room to accomodate me.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 05:17
by thehemogoblin
Captain Hammer wrote:I'll play the villain.
Who'd have thunk it?
I still like you, but you make for one hell of an antagonist.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 14:57
by Captain Hammer
Okay, here's the villain:
Rodolfo "Fito" de la Fuente
Beneath his boyish good looks, Rodolfo de la Fuente is as ruthless as they come. Known as "Fito" to his friends and enemies alike, he has come fresh from a win in the South American Formula 3 leagues and has been granted a Superlicence as his prize. What he has not told you is that he has carved a trail of disruption across Europe, where he has developed a bad reputation; he has driven in practically every feeder series there is, but has not yet seen a full season out owing to his off-track antics. Fito believes it is his perogative to join the Formula 1 grid, though a closer examination of his Superlicence reveals that it was issued a year ago. He has spent the past season in relative obscurity, racing national touring cars and trying to gather sponsors for a push into Formula 1. The exact source of his money is unknown, and rumour up and down pit lane is that while it appears legit, some of his sponsors' activities are questionable despite their clean track record. He has set his sights on a drive with Precision Motorsports, even though the team has had both its drives full for some time. He has made no secret that he intends to leave the team for bigger and brighter things at the end of one season.
Yes, before you ask, he's based on Jose Maria Lopez and Andy Soucek.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 15:30
by Jeroen Krautmeir
This is absolutely wonderful! This truly is becoming what I visioned!
PORSCHE HQ - STUTTGART:
Your optimism is obviously something to smile about. From our point of view, the usage of existing Porsche facilities and staff will greatly help boost the performance of the team. I have followed your Le Mans program very closely, and from the results which have been achieved, and can honestly say that this can be achieved in Formula 1, should a deal be achieved. For chassis design and aerodynamics, all we ask for are facilities for us to allow us to explore our ideas further. Currently, we are forced to hold back our creativity, as our facilities are not sufficient for premium testing.
I can see your interest in the managerial side of things. Currently, I hold a 50% share in the team, with 25% going to Bitburger Braurei, 10% going to Lufthansa, and the rest being split between Fondmetal, Pennzoil, Tommy Hilfiger and Johnnie Walker. I would be prepared to give up 25% of my stake to Porsche, and with the Pennzoil deal looking slightly shaky for 1998, you stand to become the majority shareholder. While I am by no means opposed to Porsche taking charge of areas such as development, I would still like to have control over sponsors, driver choice, and driver development, areas which I see myself as an expert. If Porsche find it necessary to hire a German driver, I will tell you honestly that at the moment, I cannot see many promising German talents other than Ralf Schumacher, and he has been snapped up by Jordan. I will try my best, but no guarantees.
Also, what is with so many Aussies in the team?
Excellent post Captain, I'll try to respond sooner or later. I have to say that I will not have access to the computer for some time after this, so try and work out something guys.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 16:28
by DemocalypseNow
Katajamäki: de la Fuente 'a complete joke'Precision Motorsports driver Alex Katajamäki has launched a scathing attack against South American driver Rodolfo de la Fuente - dubbing him 'a complete joke', after comments that he was pursuing a drive with Precision for this season.
"Who the hell is this guy?" Katajamäki sarcastically questioned.
"Me and Alex [Valrey] are fully commited to Precision Motorsports, as are the team to us, so I don't know what posessed him to suggest he'd be driving for the team. I can't speak for the team as a whole, but from my perspective the driver roster looks full, and I doubt he would be hired as anything other than a test driver - if at all."
"I doubt any team on the grid would hire a driver knowing they would cut and run at the end of the season - essentially using them as a sprinboard to a 'better' drive. So his attitude is also questionable. I'm here - despite many criticising my attitude already - because I am fully commited to Precision Motorsports and succeeding in the 1997 F1 season."His team-mate Alex Valrey was unavaliable for comment,
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 16:57
by tommykl
From: Thomas De Bock (
[email protected])
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
Re: BNL Karting Series
Hi, Mr. Krautmeir.
This email is to inform about my karting season for 1997, where I will be driving in the BNL Series, or the Benelux Championship, in the Micro Max category.
Here is the calendar for the 3-race season:
1. Ostricourt, 3rd-4th April
2. Genk, 22nd-23rd May
3. Genk, 7th-8th August
I recently completed a test at Spa. Here are the respective times.
Best lap: 52.16
Best regards, Thomas De Bock.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 20:38
by thehemogoblin
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Excellent post Captain, I'll try to respond sooner or later. I have to say that I will not have access to the computer for some time after this, so try and work out something guys.
You can either do the random disappearance, have a medical issue, or be kidnapped. Go nuts.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 21:22
by watka
PORSCHE HQ - STUTTGART:
Thank you. Even from just today's meeting on it's own, we can see that a relationship in F1 is possible, and I would like to say here and now that we will put forward a formal proposal to you following this meeting for collaboration going into the 1998 F1 season. However, I hope you can understand that the ultimate decision by us will be results based, which we will probably assess at around the mid-point of the season. We will be keeping a close eye on your team's progress; after all, the acid test of your impressive facilities will be the results that you get out on the track.
With regards to managerial responsibilities, we can ensure you that your position as team manager will be in no way under threat. However we would expect to have some input in terms of sponsors and driver, if not the ultimate decision. The Porsche brand will naturally attract an array of sponsors; I'm sure you know already from Le Mans of our big deals with Mobil 1 and IBM, who could bring even more technical resources into the team. On the driver front, I agree that the German talent pool isn't so large, but there is one driver on our books that I suggest you have a look at in the future.
Rodolfo de la Fuente had a few drives in Porsche Supercup meetings across the world last year, and impressed us enough to put him in our development team for the Porsche 911 GT1. He is one of those drivers that can jump into any vehicle and be instantly competitive. He is a very driven individual, with a wealth of single-seater experience as well, so I can see him fitting into the team in the future.
Anyway, this is probably for another time. As I say, you can expect a formal proposal from us within the next few weeks.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 00:19
by Captain Hammer
De la Fuente to Katajamäki: "Dude. I'm Spaish"Aspiring Formula 1 driver Rodolfo de la Fuente has hit back at Precision Motorsport's Alex Katajamäki, following the Finn's comments that there is no place for him in the sport.
"I honestly have no idea what provoked this attack," the Spaniard was quoted assaying over the weekend.
"I put forth an expression of interest with Precision Motorsports, just as I did to half a dozen other teams. Katajamäki seems to have taken it personally, and to be perfectly straight with you, his comments are pre-emptive. I have not heard back from Precision Motorsports' management, yet Katajamäki took it upon himself to comment on the matter. He could do a lot worse in this world than to keep his nose out of where it doesn't belong."The Spanish-born de la Fuente may be relatively obscure in the Formula 1 world, but that does not mean he is no less committed.
"Alex Katajamäki seem to think I'm simply some wannabe racer," he added.
"I've got an FIA Superlicence that suggests otherwise. I won the South American Formula 3 championship. I'm good for this. Furthermore, I'm in this for the long haul. I resent Katajamäki's insinuation that I'm only flirting with the sport. My commitment remains 100%. The reason why I asked for a one-year contract is because that's the way I've always operated. I'm not one for making long-term commitments when even the short-term future in a sport like Formula 1 is open to uncertainty.
"I'm not sure what Katajamäki's game is, but I'm honeslty a little concerned for him. I might have won the South American Formula 3 championship ... but dude, I'm Spanish. I went to South America because that was where the most competitive racing was. Believe me, I know; I spent five years going through the European championships beforehand. I'm not sure if you realise this, but Spain and South America are a long way apart. I hope you work this out in time for the Spanish Grand Prix, because your team is going to miss you when they're in Barcelona and you're in Brazil. Next time, do a little research. Your name might sound Japanese, but that doesn't mean you're from Japan, does it?"
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 01:05
by Captain Hammer
Also, a side note about Precision's rival team (we don't need a full contingent to play):
Eurosprint (styled as Euro*SPRINT)
Team Eurosprint is a Dutch outfit entering their fourth year in Formula 1. For most of this time, they have existed in a state of relative nothingness: they have never won a race, but they have never made headlines for a run of bad finishes and financial misery. The team seems to be perpetually on the verge of doing something, largely because they are usually the first car to finish outside the points. They are also unique on the grid in that they are willing to run the number thirteen (admittedly upside-down so as to reverse any bad luck), and carry the 13 and 14 largely because of several late-season team changes; at the end of last season, they were entitled to run the 18 and 19. Eurosprint are looking to make good on their pent-up potential this season, though several key staff members have left for other teams and most of their pit crew is brand-new. To this end, they have attracted Rodolfo de la Fuente to their cause.
I'm putting this next section in coloured font because it's a spoiler. This details where I want to go with de la Fuente and his mysterious backers, and I'm largely putting it down here because a) it will remind me of what I'm doing and where I'm going, and b) it's so that people don't start running off in their own direction with his story. As you can already see, he's already got a bit of an issue with Katajamäki. That will be the focus of his story arc, but all of this is a detailed backstory.
De la Fuente brings sponsorship from the flamboyant and enigmatic Russian construction mogul Vladimir Timofeyovich Sokoloff and his Sokol Construction Group, one of the largest of its kind in Eastern Europe. The cars have since been rebranded as Sokol Euro*SPRINT, and carry an attractive livery in silver, red and yellow. However, as the season goes by, there will be serious questions about the identity of Vladimir Sokoloff. Rumours and hearsay will variously link him to the Russian mafia, the Russian government, and both (though some argue these are actually one and the same). Sokol Construction is actually a front for the FSB (Russian security services) designed to move foreign currency about unabated. Sokoloff himself is a rogue FSB operative - and has been for some time - misappropriating State funds for his own purposes. He has been so successful that he has managed to spin Sokol Construction off into a completely legitimate business and replace the stolen funds. Sokoloff himself is a fugitive from the Russians, major enough to warrant an investigation, but minor enough that the Russians don't really bother with him. This, however, is largely a subplot and completely unknown to the paddock and the team. To their eyes, Sokoloff is a self-made millionaire several times over, and his involvement is seen as the key to a push into the lucrative East European and Russian markets. His presence on the grid is largely welcomed and his secrets will not come out until the second half of the season. Shortly before the final flyaway leg, Sokoloff will go on the run and default on his payments, leaving Eurosprint in the lurch. By this time, it will be apparent that Rodolfo de la Fuente is the most hated man on the grid and will not be participating in next year's season. He will make it his mission to take out Alex Katajamäki at every opportunity.
Spoilers end here.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 14:26
by Salamander
If it's alright with you guys, I could do de la Fuente's teammate, who could either be the Barrichello to de la Fuente's Schumacher, or Mansell to his Piquet, or something.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 23:30
by Captain Hammer
Not to force anything upon you, but I figured de la Fuente's team-mate would be someone in the twilight of his career, the greatest driver never to race a Ferrari or a McLaren. He became the benchmark against which every driver the top teams had their eye on; if you couldn't beat him, you wouldn't get a Ferrari or McLaren seat. As time went by, everybody started getting faster and he wound up in an upper lower midfield team. He knows his time is up and that he should have retired a season or three ago, but he's still in the game.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 09:05
by Enforcer
To: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Re: Test at the Nurburgring
Hi Jeroen,
I emailed you about this before the meeting with Porsche. I can have the cars ready for a shakedown at the Nurburgring on the weekend of the 21st and 22nd of December (just before everyone's holidays), we should be able get in about 20 laps per car. Should we press ahead with this, or leave it until after Christmas?
Regards,
Ronan Griffin
Techincal Director
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 19:23
by Salamander
Captain Hammer wrote:Not to force anything upon you, but I figured de la Fuente's team-mate would be someone in the twilight of his career, the greatest driver never to race a Ferrari or a McLaren. He became the benchmark against which every driver the top teams had their eye on; if you couldn't beat him, you wouldn't get a Ferrari or McLaren seat. As time went by, everybody started getting faster and he wound up in an upper lower midfield team. He knows his time is up and that he should have retired a season or three ago, but he's still in the game.
No worries, I can work with that. I should have some sort of profile up tomorrow.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 15 Sep 2010, 19:27
by Salamander
Alright, here's my guy. Let me know if you want anything altered.
Guillaume Gauthier
A winner of 5 Grands Prix, and veteran of over 150, France's Guillaume Gauthier is one of the main fixtures of the F1 grid. After being highly rated in the late 80's and early 90's, he hit a patch of uncompetitiveness in 1992, which negatively impacted his confidence and ability, but has since come to terms with the fact that he will never drive a top car again, and contents himself with the fact that in imparting his knowledge into younger drivers, he is still leaving a mark on the sport. Known as one of the more pleasant and friendly drivers in the paddock, this carries over into his driving style, which is smooth and consistant, as well as using all of the racetrack available, which can frustrate those attempting to pass him for position. Nonetheless, if you try to upset him, or if your name is Michael Schumacher, prepare for a battle, because Gauthier has a very long memory.
Gauthier's debut came in 1987 with Arrows, and after a pair of impressive podiums, found himself on his way to Benetton. After a hot-and-cold 1988, Gauthier proved his talent by winning the 1989 Brazilian Grand Prix. 2 more wins and 5 podiums in the first 7 races of 1990 seemed to pave the way for a possible title charge for him, but an unreliable streak in the second half scuppered his chances. Nonetheless, he had the team bosses attention at McLaren, Williams, and Ferrari, but was unable to secure a drive with any of those teams. Gauthier won his final race for Benetton in 1991 in France with a dominating performance, but unreliability and a deteriorating relationship with Flavio Briatore meant that the Frenchman was unceremoniously dumped after Belgium, replaced by Micheal Schumacher, the beginning of a feud between the two drivers which continues to this day, largely consisting of Gauthier impeding Schumacher when and where he can.
From then on it seemed nothing would go Gauthier's way. He moved to Lotus for 1992, but was unhappy with the car, which in turn meant he lost the in-team battle to Mika Hakkinen. He was then signed to new team Sauber in 1993, where he was able to regain some form, returning to the podium twice and finishing equal on points with Karl Wendlinger. Enticed by the promise of a competitive car, he moved to Ligier in 1994, winning the German Grand Prix rather fortuitously. Again, however unreliability haunted him, and in the end he again lost out on points to the rookie. A disappointing 1995 meant Gauthier left Ligier, but found that the only seat open to him was at Eurosprint. Not ready to hang up his helmet, Gauthier took the drive, and is now looking to score the team's first points in his second season with them.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 16 Sep 2010, 11:50
by Jeroen Krautmeir
From: Jeroen Krautmier (
[email protected])
To: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Re: Test at the Nurburgring
Hi Ronan,
I've booked the Nurburgring for the 22nd. I guess we'll give Katajamäki the honours of being the first to get a taste of the car. One hopes nothing goes wrong, like Bild reporters sneaking in for instance.
Regards,
Jeroen.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 16 Sep 2010, 14:04
by Captain Hammer
Team Eurosprint confirm de la FuenteLess than a week after his explosive attack on Alex Katajamäki and Precision Motorsport, Spanish hopeful Rodolfo de la Fuente has joined Team Eurosprint. Fresh from a year spent racing in Spanish touring cars, the twenty-three year-old de la Fuente was today presented to the media by Eurosprint at their Rotterdam headquarters.
"I couldn't be happier to realise my dream," de la Fuente was quoted as saying.
"I was hardly expecting negotiations to progress so quickly. But I met with the team and we just instantly clicked. There was a kind of chemistry from the moment I walked into their offices, and I just knew that this was the place I wanted to start my career in Formula 1."In an unusual move, Eurosprint and de la Fuete will break with tradition and carry the number thirteen on the Spaniard's car for the upcoming season. Also annouced at the presentation was Eurosprint's new-look sponsor, Russian engineering group Sokol Construction. Although unavailable for comment at the time of writing, Sokol president and founder Vladimir Sokoloff issued a statement to the media describing the bright future he saw in the young Spanish driver and expressing his pride in joining the team.
Joining de la Fuente at Eurosprint is returning French driver Guillaume Gauthier. Once described as 'the best driver never to race for Ferrari and McLaren', Gauthier has gained a reputation in Formula 1 as being the man which any hopeful driver is rated against. Team principal Alfons van Biert was happy to elaborate on his driver choice, saying
"A team's second season is generally considered to be its hardest, but even we were surprised at the way everything has fit together so well. If our off-season is anything to go by, Team Sokol Eurosprint is going to make an impression in Formula 1 - mark my words. Between the experience of Guillaume and the untepped potential of Fito de la Fuente, we're looking forward to this season more than any before us."Alex Katajamäki, the source of this week's controversy, was unavailable for comment, though a team spokesperson issued a brief sattement that the team held no ill will towards de la Fuente or his new team and that they wished the Spaniard all the best for the new season of racing. But whatever chance there may have been of reconciliation seems to have evaporated; when asked about the controversy and Katajamäki's lack of comment, de la Fuente took the opportunity to lash out once more, opining that
"I don't really want to go into this, but it looks like something that is inescapable. Alex Katajamäki shouln't have opened his mouth in the first place, and now he's hiding behind his PR machine in the hopes someone else can clean up his mess. If he had any shred of decency in him, he'd come out and apologise publicly. But he hasn't, so I guess that just goes to show what kind of a man he is. He'd do well to remember that he was a rookie driver, once upon a time. In fact, it was just a few weeks ago that he was out looking for a drive. He's barely got his foot in the door and he's already got himself an ego larger than most. Tough break."-------
Before you ask, yes: I'm deliberately making Katajamäki look like an ass. I am, after all, going to be his rival. Fito has to believe that Alex has wronged him in order to be convincing - I have to speak with his "voice". I can't go around saying "Yes, I'm evil: I steal candy from babies and I set things on fire and hail naughty Satan!" I have to sell the idea that Fito believes he's right. You can already see that he's tried the polite route, but he's getting upset over it and attacking Katajamäki when he should be backing off and let things cool down. He spent more time criticising Katajamäki than he did talking about his new team. This is something that I'm going to do a lot of; Fito will be the villain, but when talking to the media, he will always make himself out to be the innocent one. People are very good at doing that, remembering things to reflect better on them.
Re: Precision Motorsports- The F1R RP
Posted: 17 Sep 2010, 21:47
by Enforcer
Griffin: De La Who?
Bild reporters gathered outside Precision Motorsports HQ after De La Fuente's verbal joust with Precision driver Alex Katamajaki today and questioned the the team's Techincal Director, former F1 driver Ronan Griffin about the matter, as he transferred from his car into his wheelchair.
Griffin was quoted as saying: "Rodolfo de la Who? Look I haven't got the time for this. I have a very busy day ahead of me. Contact Kay for press stuff, I have cars to build." before entering the factory.
Griffin competed in 75 Grand Prix between 1987 and 1992 with Arrows, Williams and Jordan teams before a solidary IndyCar season in 1993. He then returned to F1 with the short-lived MazdaSpeed team in 1994 and 1995, competing in a further 30 Grand Prix before a severe accident in qualifying for the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix resulted in the amputation of his left leg. He was known for his driving aggression and love-hate relationship with the media.
To: Jeroen Krautmeir (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Re: Nurburgring test
That's great Jeroen, I'll get an itinerary together for the day and inform the drivers in the next couple of days. We should be able to run two cars, but I'll give Alex K. some track time on his own at the start.
There's also a few reporters outside asking about that Eurosprint lot and some driver I've never heard of, so be careful if you're visiting the factory. I forgot about Eurosprint, but now that I think of it, I dimly remember lapping them a lot in my MazdaSpeed days, I wouldn't pay them much attention for the moment.
Regards,
Ronan Griffin,
Technical Director.
To: Alex Katamajaki (
[email protected]), Alex Valrey (
[email protected])
From: Ronan Griffin (
[email protected])
Re: Test at the Nurburgring 22nd December
Hi guys,
I'll have two cars ready for a shakedown test at the Nurburgring on the 22nd of December. Hotel reservations etc. are in the attached file. I'll circulate a full itinerary in the next day or two.
I recommend you take on a fair chunk of front wing to keep your front end positive, because the nosecone is a bit underdeveloped relative to the rest of the car, I should have that sorted before the season starts. Other than that set up options are entirely up to you and your race engineers. Be at the factory at 2pm sharp on the 21st for seat fittings, and at the track at 9am on the 22nd.
Don't hold back in terms of feedback on the cars, if it's a dog I want to know.
Regards,
Ronan Griffin,
Techinal Director