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Ferrari is bored of Ensign's whining, and will instead sign free agent Emerson Fittipaldi for their second car for 1977. Ricardo Patrese will make occasional appearances in a third car at selected events (tba).
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Shadow will actually sign up Jody Scheckter and release Lella Lombardi. Scheckter, Stommelen and Jarier will alternate seats in the first 3 races of the season, allowing us to decide which 2 drivers should be our main entrants.
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Well, if Jody Scheckter is actually available, he'll drive for Kojima BRM next year!

Of course, if we can afford him... otherwise we'll just keep Henton.
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I'm changing the entry fees: 20.000 per race, so the full season costs 340.000.
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Boro will announce plans once we know our budget.
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Fittipaldi would like '77 Fords if that's possible.
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Apollon is considering Ford engines for 1977. We would also like to purchase Maki's assets from 1976, if possible.
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tristan1117 wrote:Apollon is considering Ford engines for 1977. We would also like to purchase Maki's assets from 1976, if possible.


Ok, but what do you want to buy from Maki? The licences are only running for one year, and the car is worse than the one you already have.
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This wrote:Well, if Jody Scheckter is actually available, he'll drive for Kojima BRM next year!

Of course, if we can afford him... otherwise we'll just keep Henton.

let's not do that after all, and just keep Henton , he's not doing that bad after all.
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What is the starting competitiveness of the 1977 chassis' going to be based on? Will it be mostly on real life, or more on how the team performed in 1976, or a balance of the two? Or maybe something else entirely? Just so I have an idea what to expect when the new season kicks off.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:What is the starting competitiveness of the 1977 chassis' going to be based on? Will it be mostly on real life, or more on how the team performed in 1976, or a balance of the two? Or maybe something else entirely? Just so I have an idea what to expect when the new season kicks off.


For the teams who compete in 1976, it will be based on the 1976 car, and the pre-season development. The new teams will get a car based on their real life performance, which they also can develop before the season starts. The performance of the 1976 cars won't be completely transferred into 1977, as I want to give teams who dropped back due to a lack of development (for example Penske) the possibility to catch up.

The engine you choose for 1977 will also of course influence the competetiveness of your car.
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Having given much thought (10 minutes) to the matter, here are Shadows plans for the start of the season-
Round 1- Jarier and Stommelen to race
Round 2- Jarier and Scheckter to race
Round 3- Stommelen and Scheckter to race.
I'll analyse the situation after the 3rd race.
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Depending on the results, only one Lotus driver will be retained. :)
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tristan1117 wrote:Apollon is considering Ford engines for 1977. We would also like to purchase Maki's assets from 1976, if possible.


Ok, but what do you want to buy from Maki? The licences are only running for one year, and the car is worse than the one you already have.


Never mind then, I was just trying to make a cash grab. Apollon will run the 1976 Ford engines.
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Hello there! I'm just new here, but I'd like to join for 1977 season, if there is still an empty slot. All in all, I don't know the rules for that type of game, so any explanation will be appreciated.

Also I'd like to ask are there any free teams to start from? I've read on 1st page there are two minor teams, but I didn't quite get the idea and whether they are still free? Also I'd like to see drivers list to choose from, free engines (I mean that are still offering), parts manufacturers, etc...

I hope I can join at that late stage,

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pycku wrote:Hello there! I'm just new here, but I'd like to join for 1977 season, if there is still an empty slot. All in all, I don't know the rules for that type of game, so any explanation will be appreciated.

Also I'd like to ask are there any free teams to start from? I've read on 1st page there are two minor teams, but I didn't quite get the idea and whether they are still free? Also I'd like to see drivers list to choose from, free engines (I mean that are still offering), parts manufacturers, etc...

I hope I can join at that late stage,

Cheers! :)


There is still one team you can take, which is LEC.

The races are simulated on my computer. You can enter 1-2 cars for the full season. You can decide on the drivers and the engines of your cars, with the remaining money you can buy upgrades after each race. Depending on your results, you get prize money two times per season.
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Ok, I'd like to take LEC team. If possible, I'd like to rename it to rename it to DSR Ford.
As for engine and chassis, we'd like to use Ford '77 engine and chassis. If possible, where can I see free drivers on the market, so that I sign a contract? Up to now, our plans are for one driver per race, participating in as much as possible (which means what is the price to participate and if there are any bonuses that are paid immediately after the race?) :)
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You can enter all drivers from 1977. Drivers new to the series cost 50.000 per season. Renaming isn't possible in this series, but you can change your sponsor if you want to. However, this has no effect on your budget.
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I didn't find anyone signing Alan Jones, so we'd like to hire the aussie. We would like to hire Nelson Piquet for our test driver. I know in reality he joined F1 in 78, but we see him as a hot prospect for future, so we would like to have him as a test driver and who knows - if Alan doesn't meet our hopes, we would replace him at some stage. As far as I suppose, Jones and Piquet will cost us 100 000 per the whole season.
Up to now we will run one car, if Jones delivers some money - we may rethink our position.
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pycku wrote:I didn't find anyone signing Alan Jones, so we'd like to hire the aussie. We would like to hire Nelson Piquet for our test driver. I know in reality he joined F1 in 78, but we see him as a hot prospect for future, so we would like to have him as a test driver and who knows - if Alan doesn't meet our hopes, we would replace him at some stage. As far as I suppose, Jones and Piquet will cost us 100 000 per the whole season.
Up to now we will run one car, if Jones delivers some money - we may rethink our position.


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McGuire will stick a 1976 spec Ford Cosworth in the back of our car. Reject status, here we come. :lol:
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I'll take the financial gamble and run Matra engines for 1977. We'll also keep Jochen Mass with our team, while we'll replace that other guy, what's his name? Jose somethingsomethingsomething... Anyway, our second driver will be an "import" from the United States, as we'll run Tom Sneva in the second Penske.
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Oh I'm sorry to hear Alan is not free for our team. This leaves us no choice but to sign Jacques Laffite instead. As for Piquet - he is our second driver, although with no car for now, unfortunately.
As for the team name - we would like to be reffered as Team LEC Ford.

PS is it possible to have second car with different chassis and old Ford ('76) engine? Also as Piquet starts his career in 1978 - may i use him in season 77 or I have to hire another driver if I wish to run a second car?
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pycku wrote:Oh I'm sorry to hear Alan is not free for our team. This leaves us no choice but to sign Jacques Laffite instead. As for Piquet - he is our second driver, although with no car for now, unfortunately.
As for the team name - we would like to be reffered as Team LEC Ford.

PS is it possible to have second car with different chassis and old Ford ('76) engine? Also as Piquet starts his career in 1978 - may i use him in season 77 or I have to hire another driver if I wish to run a second car?


You can run two cars with different engines, but both cars run the LEC chassis, unless you want to buy the hopeless Maki. You can use Piquet for 1977 as he competed in European Formula 3. Drivers who raced in junior formulae are allowed to take part, for example Boro ran several Formula 2 drivers in 1976.
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Looks like Lotus will only able to retain Reutemann at the moment. :| Second driver suggestions, please? :)
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FMecha wrote:Looks like Lotus will only able to retain Reutemann at the moment. :| Second driver suggestions, please? :)

You do realise if you take Villeneuve from Ensign, they pay his salary for you, right? :twisted:
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FMecha wrote:Looks like Lotus will only able to retain Reutemann at the moment. :| Second driver suggestions, please? :)

You do realise if you take Villeneuve from Ensign, they pay his salary for you, right? :twisted:


That only applied when you were trying to sign him :roll:

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Hmm, sorry for asking imbecile questions, but does Laffite costs us 160 000 (his salary for 76) or 50 000? I'm pretty sure Piquet will cost us just 50 000. Additionaly, entering with Ford '77 and one car for the whole season will cost us 700 000. My next question is whether any updates are possible for the first race of the season. If so - should i post here or PM someone if I'd like to make any?!

As for our plans, we changed it a little - J. Laffite will be driving the whole season as our driver # 1. Nelson Piquet found some sponsorship, so he will be driving our second car with Ford '77 engine in Brazil. If his debut is good - he would make it to the second round, but this is to be decided after round 1. So this is it from LEC. We are also negotiating with some sponsors although we would not disclose it at this moment. However, there are some rumours saying that LEC is close to signing a contract with the Eastern block. USSR premier Leonid Brezhnev said that he is eager to show the imperialist pigs that communism is going to win the battle on their own field. It is believed that USSR will not officially get involved in Formula 1, but this is gonna happen with a satelite country. Bulgarian prime minister Todor Jivkov was seen talking with LEC management, so maybe this is the answer... More interesting news to come!
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pycku wrote:Hmm, sorry for asking imbecile questions, but does Laffite costs us 160 000 (his salary for 76) or 50 000? I'm pretty sure Piquet will cost us just 50 000. Additionaly, entering with Ford '77 and one car for the whole season will cost us 700 000. My next question is whether any updates are possible for the first race of the season. If so - should i post here or PM someone if I'd like to make any?!

As for our plans, we changed it a little - J. Laffite will be driving the whole season as our driver # 1. Nelson Piquet found some sponsorship, so he will be driving our second car with Ford '77 engine in Brazil. If his debut is good - he would make it to the second round, but this is to be decided after round 1. So this is it from LEC. We are also negotiating with some sponsors and rumours are saying that LEC is close to signing a contract with the Eastern block. USSR premier Nikita Khruschev said that he is eager to show the imperialist pigs that communism is going to win the battle on their own field. It is believed that USSR will not officially get involved in Formula 1, but this is gonna happen with a satelite country. Bulgarian prime minister Todor Jivkov was seen talking with LEC management, so maybe this is the answer... More interesting news to come!

Wait, Khrushchev in 1977? He died in 1971, and even then he was deposed already back in 1964. You're probably mixing him up with Brezhnev.
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Oops, my mistake. Brezhnev of course.
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I checked a minute ago to see which companies were tyre suppliers for 1997. Apart from Goodyear, there are Michelin, Dunlop and Bridgestone. So my question that arose "is there going to be a tyre war in this virtual season or not"? As far as I can see all the teams up to now are using Goodyear.
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pycku wrote:I checked a minute ago to see which companies were tyre suppliers for 1997. Apart from Goodyear, there are Michelin, Dunlop and Bridgestone. So my question that arose "is there going to be a tyre war in this virtual season or not"? As far as I can see all the teams up to now are using Goodyear.

No way, Kojima must and shall have those Bridgestones!
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If possible, Ligier will have a last-minute change of plans by putting Carlos Reutemann in the second car and demoting Pescarolo to a third car that will be run in Monaco and France for 1977.
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Wizzie wrote:If possible, Ligier will have a last-minute change of plans by putting Carlos Reutemann in the second car and demoting Pescarolo to a third car that will be run in Monaco and France for 1977.


Lotus have already announced that they would like to keep him.

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Wizzie wrote:If possible, Ligier will have a last-minute change of plans by putting Carlos Reutemann in the second car and demoting Pescarolo to a third car that will be run in Monaco and France for 1977.


Lotus have already announced that they would like to keep him.

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Ah, fair enough.

EDIT: In that case, can we run 1976 USAC champion Gordon Johncock for the races held in the US?
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pi314159 wrote:Car developement starts when 1976 is over.


Well, season 1976 is over. May we see what the remaining budgets are, so that we can make updates (and for teams that haven't signed their drivers - to do so)?
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Tomorrow i'll be at university for the full day, but on Friday I'm going to update the budgets.
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Surtees will run Chris Amon and the 1977-spec Ford Cosworth.
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After a long debate, Kojima BRM decides to swap between Hasemi and Hoshino, rather than choosing one permanent driver, both have shown flashes of speed, but neither have really impressed. Both will drive in the Japanese GP, as a third car will be entered. In the British GP, another third car will be entered, for a yet-to-be-named British driver. Henton will drive a full season. All other Japanese drivers are available for other teams.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Surtees will run Chris Amon and the 1977-spec Ford Cosworth.


There's no more slots left for 1977-spec Fords. However, I do recommend looking at either taking up the remaining Alfa Romeo or Matra spot if you're desperate for a good engine.
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