BTCC 2004 - Croft Race 18 Results Up

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 09 Dec 2012, 10:18

I would also be interested in a feeder series.

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 09 Dec 2012, 10:26

WOW. 10 drivers, and not one wanted to sign for us? Who could resist the racing might of Proton?

Anyway, our next driver offers are as follows:

1) David Leslie
2) Gavin Pyper
3) Carl Breeze
4) James Kaye
5) Gareth Howell
6) Phil Bennett
7) Danny Buxton
8) Paul Wallace

Again, all on no salary.

EDIT: May as well add:
9) Luke Hines
10) Alan Blencowe

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Dec 2012, 10:58

Samster wrote:Which number for Chilton's entry?

19.

Samster wrote:Oh would anyone be interested in a feeder series to this? Kind of akin to the V8 Development series where old cars from the BTCC and other 2 liter spec series can be raced. Those that already have a team in this can enter. Teams can be fictional so any team name you want, drivers still have to be real, anyone in the tin-top scene at the time not already in the main series or any other major championship.

Should give the driver market for future BTCC seasons a bit of a boost.

Yeah, I'd definately be interested in that.

Samster wrote:Anyone else find it hilarious that apparently Plato couldn't find a ride for his oh so glorious return in this universe? I find it deeply satisfying.

Yes, it's hilarious. Apparently he was involved with the SEAT Cupra feeder series, so I guess he was expecting me to give him an offer. Which is why, although I didn't get Thompson, I'm very happy to have Neal instead. :twisted:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:18

Is there scope for one-off entries? These sometimes happen in BTCC. Because I just had an idea...

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:18

Ferrarist wrote:Collard Racing would like to offer Rob Collard £250.000. It may not be much, but he'll get to run a BMW 320i (A proven race winner on the continent), plus it's his own team after all.

So he'll be paying himself.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:20

kostas22 wrote:Is there scope for one-off entries? These sometimes happen in BTCC. Because I just had an idea...

What's your idea?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:22

Samster wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Is there scope for one-off entries? These sometimes happen in BTCC. Because I just had an idea...

What's your idea?

I don't want to give it away to anyone so will PM.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:36

Samster wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Collard Racing would like to offer Rob Collard £250.000. It may not be much, but he'll get to run a BMW 320i (A proven race winner on the continent), plus it's his own team after all.

So he'll be paying himself.

Well, I can't let him drive for free, even if it's his own team

. On the other hand, can I "reinvest" Collard's salary into updates?

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:41

Ferrarist wrote:
Samster wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Collard Racing would like to offer Rob Collard £250.000. It may not be much, but he'll get to run a BMW 320i (A proven race winner on the continent), plus it's his own team after all.

So he'll be paying himself.

Well, I can't let him drive for free, even if it's his own team . On the other hand, can I "reinvest" Collard's salary into updates?

Sure. That money would mostly be staying within the team.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Dec 2012, 13:51

Is there still room for an independant entrant?

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:05

pasta_maldonado wrote:Is there still room for an independant entrant?

John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:09

Samster wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Is there still room for an independant entrant?

John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

Shouldn't it be called John B&Q Racing? :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:13

Samster wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Is there still room for an independant entrant?

John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

I'll run them then, see if I can improve them a bit! We'll run a single Peugeot 406 Coupe. Can you tell me which drivers will cost between £150,000 to £215,000?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:24

Samster wrote:Oh would anyone be interested in a feeder series to this? Kind of akin to the V8 Development series where old cars from the BTCC and other 2 liter spec series can be raced. Those that already have a team in this can enter. Teams can be fictional so any team name you want, drivers still have to be real, anyone in the tin-top scene at the time not already in the main series or any other major championship.

Should give the driver market for future BTCC seasons a bit of a boost.

Yeah, I'd be interested

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:06

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Samster wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Is there still room for an independant entrant?

John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

I'll run them then, see if I can improve them a bit! We'll run a single Peugeot 406 Coupe. Can you tell me which drivers will cost between £150,000 to £215,000?

I'd say that's the salary a big name would want. Probably more than that to convince them to try such a rejectful team like JBR.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:10

kostas22 wrote:
Samster wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Is there still room for an independant entrant?

John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

Shouldn't it be called John B&Q Racing?

Oh god, didn't he actually legally change his name to that in 2002? B&Q have long since cut their ties with the team by this point.

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:13

Samster wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Samster wrote:John Batchelor Racing is still available, starting budget is £600,000.

Shouldn't it be called John B&Q Racing?

Oh god, didn't he actually legally change his name to that in 2002? B&Q have long since cut their ties with the team by this point.

Yes. yes he did. I believe he was also John Top Gear as well for a while for the same reasons....

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:30

GA/Sureterm drivers choices:

Astra car:

Paul Wallace
Charlie Butler-Henderson
Carl Breeze
Kelvin Burt
Gavin Smith
Stefan Hodgetts
Gavin Pyper

Alfa car:
Carl Breeze
Stefan Hodgetts
Luca Badoer
Jacques Villeneuve
Ryan Briscoe

All of them will get 1 million salary, regardless of who is chosen.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:44

FMecha wrote:GA/Sureterm drivers choices:

Astra car:

Paul Wallace
Charlie Butler-Henderson
Carl Breeze
Kelvin Burt
Gavin Smith
Stefan Hodgetts
Gavin Pyper

Alfa car:
Carl Breeze
Stefan Hodgetts
Luca Badoer
Jacques Villeneuve
Ryan Briscoe

All of them will get 1 million salary, regardless of who is chosen.

1 million? Are you trying to bankrupt yourself?

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:47

Samster wrote:
FMecha wrote:GA/Sureterm drivers choices:

Astra car:

Paul Wallace
Charlie Butler-Henderson
Carl Breeze
Kelvin Burt
Gavin Smith
Stefan Hodgetts
Gavin Pyper

Alfa car:
Carl Breeze
Stefan Hodgetts
Luca Badoer
Jacques Villeneuve
Ryan Briscoe

All of them will get 1 million salary, regardless of who is chosen.

1 million? Are you trying to bankrupt yourself?

GAH! Brain fade again! Chosen driver(s) will receive 50k instead and give us ROTPS. :oops:

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 16:04

Checkers or Wreckers Racing have announced that they will enter 9 select rounds of the 2004 BTCC season with their Lexus IS2000 purchased from ABG Motorsport who built and ran the car in 2001. Team owner, Sam Hempsall will drive.

And this will be me attempting to drive a car myself on NR2003, with just a keyboard to use. I'll be amazed if I actually finish a race. :lol:

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 09 Dec 2012, 18:07

Sorry,Internet here in US not very good...

Synchro would be looking to sign Alexander Wurz,Rob Collard,Jason Plato,David Leslie,Darren Turner and Allan Morrison for their seats.The first driver to be decided takes the 10, second driver the 49.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Dec 2012, 18:11

John Batchelor Racing will attempt to sign Allan Morrisson.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:20

Let's get Group B done.

Yvan Muller

Dynamics have now approached Muller with the highest salary on the grid but so have Alfa Romeo's ETCC team. Eager to prove himself on the international scene Muller is still leaning towards moving series, especially since Dynamics are yet to prove that they can be front runners.

1-80 Alfa Romeo in ETCC
81-100 Join Team Dynamics

17 Yvan Muller signs with Alfa Romeo and will move to the ETCC.

Alexander Wurz

The F1 driver is currently one of McLaren's test and reserve drivers and is payed more than enough by them so the lack of salary on offer from Synchro Motorsports isn't an issue. The only problem is whether McLaren will allow him to race in the BTCC. Wurz would like to get into the racing seat again, just in case an F1 race drive does come his way he would like to be prepared.

1-70 Signs with Synchro on the condition that McLaren approves.
71-100 Not interested and sticks to F1 testing.

54 He will seek approval from McLaren to let him race for Synchro.

1-50 McLaren approves
51-100 McLaren doesn't approve

17 Wurz is able to accept the drive.

Jason Plato

2001 champion's attempt at a return is so far unsuccessful but he does now have a good offer from Dynamics, plus the delicious irony of driving for one of his rival's family teams. He also has offers from Synchro and Tech-Speed but since they are unpaid, they are barely worth considering to Lord 'I'm better than you' Plato.

1-98 Signs with Dynamics
99 Develops some actual humanity and signs with Synchro.
100 Ditto with Tech-Speed.

65 Dynamics for Plato

David Leslie

The veteran is disappointed that Proton no longer want to pay him but neither do Synchro Motorsports. There is also the thought of retirement from full time racing though he would be up for an enduro drive.

1-40 Stay with Proton.
41-80 Move to Synchro.
81-100 Retire and cut to part time only.

66 Leslie will move to Synchro Motorsports completing their lineup.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:43

Darren Turner

Currently a GT racer for Prodrive, Turner is interested in also racing in the BTCC and a salary offer from Team Dynamics is very tempting.

1-75 Sign with Dynamics on the condition that he can still race at Le Mans.
76-100 Stick with GTs.

44 Signs with Dynamics.

Alain Menu

Though he has just left Opel's DTM team, Menu remains employed by GM who are looking at entering the ETCC for 2005 with him as the lead driver. He is happy to spend 2004 racing for Tech-Speed who have offered him a drive though racing for an underfunded team is a concern. He'd also like to give GT racing a try too.

1-50 Tech-Speed
51-100 GTs

36 Menu signs with Tech-Speed.

Peter Terting

Team Dynamics have offered to run a third car for Terting provided he can find the money for pay for it. After struggling in his rookie DTM season with Audi, the German marque aren't against him leaving to drive a Honda. He is also looking at entering the German SEAT Leon championship with a view to entering SEAT's ETCC team later on.

1-60 Enter's German SEAT Leons
61-100 Attempts to find money for 3rd Dynamics car.

82

1-40 Able to find backing from home in Germany
41-100 Unable to gather enough funding.

53 Terting fails to come up with funding and instead enters the German Leon championship.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:48

We'd like to make offers to Peter Dumbreck and Christijan Albers but getting new team boss Larko is our top priority

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:49

Two time BTCC champion racing for small indie team?

HonoraryNortherner · Post by **HonoraryNortherner** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:55

Team Dynamics is so very glad to have some drivers for the upcoming season!

I must admit it is a bit hilarious that I have the 2007/8 SEAT works driver line up at Dynamics...

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 09 Dec 2012, 20:58

Wizzie wrote:We'd like to make offers to Peter Dumbreck and Christijan Albers but getting new team boss Larko is our top priority

Mark Larkham moving half way across the world to race in BTCC, that is the most unrealistic thing yet. It is extremely awesome though

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Dec 2012, 21:00

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:We'd like to make offers to Peter Dumbreck and Christijan Albers but getting new team boss Larko is our top priority

Mark Larkham moving half way across the world to race in BTCC, that is the most unrealistic thing yet. It is extremely awesome though

If I manage to pull it off though, it'll be the greatest thing ever :lol:

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 21:03

Paul Wallace

GA have offered Wallace £50,000 to stay with them though Proton have also approached him, unpaid but a potentially better car.

1-60 Stay with GA.
61-100 Proton.

93 Wallace is interested in Proton but he is low down on their list so it is entirely dependent on whether Proton complete their lineup before approaching him again.

Charlie Butler-Henderson

£50,000 offer from GA is extremely appetizing for a youngster trying to move up from Clios. However he did only finish 12th and arguably could do with more experience, there's a chance that his mature side may take him to another season of Clios, or that BTCC development thingy that's been proposed.

1-90 Join GA Motorsports
91-100 One more season in the feeder categories.

85 Henderson signs.

Carl Breeze

Moved to GA half way through 2003 and has a 50K offer to continue into 2004 but the team has dropped his Astra for an Alfa 156. Proton are also interested.

1-80 Stay with GA
81-100 Move to Proton

2 Breeze will stay with GA completing their lineup.

Gavin Pyper

Free agent for 2004 and is at the top of Proton's long list now that 11 drivers have already turned them down.

1-90 Proton
91-100 Hold out for something else

29 Proton finally have their first driver.

James Kaye

Synchro Motorsport have dropped the veteran but Proton have approached him.

1-90 Proton
91-100 Hold out for something else

26 Kaye joins Pyper at Proton.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 21:47

Gareth Howell

Another free agent approached by Proton. Same deal as with Pyper and Kaye.

1-90 Proton
91-100 Look for something else.

44 Howell signs and completes Proton's lineup. It also means that Paul Wallace is turned down.

Rob Collard

Two choices remaining for Collard. Stick with running his own team or find 800K to race for fellow midfielders Tech-Speed which would almost certainly have to involve him selling up his team, all that just for a move that is arguably sideways? On the other hand there would be less stress involved when he doesn't have to take care of the team himself.

1-75 Stick with his own team.
76-100 Sell up and use the money to buy the 2nd Tech-Speed drive.

26 Collard will stick with his own team thank you.

Richard Göransson

Just come off an impressive rookie season in the STCC, Göransson has an offer to move to Britain, provided he come up with 800K. Seeing as he has options in Sweden that could easily see him challenge for a championship, this move isn't very tempting to be frank. Even if he wants to, 800K will be extremely difficult.

1-90 Stay in the STCC
91-100 Attempt to find funding to move to Britain.

99 Seems Göransson likes the idea of attempting to prove Sweden's dominance over the Brits, the new Rydell perhaps? Well he needs money and Swedish companies back home aren't that interested in England while English sponsors aren't interested in a Swede.

1-95 Unable to get enough.
96-100 Somehow scraps up 800K.

75 He fails.

Alan Morrison

Interested in Tech-Speed with no other options but needs money.

1-85 Not enough money
86-100 *Flashes Cash* Drive please?

84 Just barely misses the target and is 100K short.

Allan Simonsen

Danish racing driver who just began a career in Australia last season. Is a move back to Europe so soon really what he would want, especially as he has to pay.

1-90 Stay in Australia, but may be interested in being an enduro driver.
91-100 Attempt to find money for Tech-Speed.

76 Simonsen stays in Aus.

Tommy Rustad

Would Rustad be tempted to return to the BTCC and pay for it, or will he stick with the STCC where he knows he is a front runner?

1-80 STCC
81-100 Find money for BTCC return

32 One more year in the STCC for Rustad.

Paul Dumbrell

Certainly has the money, but will he give up an emerging career with Perkins Engineering in the Australian V8s to race in the BTCC?

1-70 Stay in Australia
71-100 Move to BTCC

9 Sticks with the V8s.

Vincent Radermecker

Radermecker already has had an unlucky stint in the BTCC driving for both Volvo and Vauxhall. He is attempting to start up a career in GTs but is open to a return to the BTCC, especially with the Spa 500. Can he find the money?

1-70 FIA GT
71-100 BTCC return

54 Radermecker decides he is done with BTCC full time but is certainly interested in the Spa 500.

John George

Has the money and is certainly interested in trying his hand in the BTCC.

1-90 Tech-Speed
91-100 Takes his money elsewhere

14 George is signed completing Tech-Speed's lineup.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:00

Okay Group C's turn, make your choices by tomorrow evening. Dynamics can also try and fill their 3rd car again if they want.

Group C
Team Dynamics 3rd car
Edenbridge Racing
Kartworld Racing
TH Motorsport
John Batchelor Racing

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:24

WE HAVE DRIVERS! AND ALL OF THEM ARE BETTER THAN FARIQUE HAIRUMAN!

HonoraryNortherner · Post by **HonoraryNortherner** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:27

Team Dynamics is certainly interested at running a third car, but for the right price.

We'd look at Luke Hines, Stefan Hodgetts, Kelvin Burt, Jan Magnussen, Erkut Kizilirmark and Shaun Watson Smith. We'll make a decision on who gets the drive after we have heard the driver's offers if they are interested in the drive.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:49

HonoraryNortherner wrote:Team Dynamics is certainly interested at running a third car, but for the right price.

We'd look at Luke Hines, Stefan Hodgetts, Kelvin Burt, Jan Magnussen, Erkut Kizilirmark and Shaun Watson Smith. We'll make a decision on who gets the drive after we have heard the driver's offers if they are interested in the drive.

Well Magnussen certainly wouldn't pay for a drive since he races for Corvette in GT.

Kelvin Burt I don't think has the funding.

Erkut Kizilirmak can offer £800,000
Luke Hines can offer £500,000
Shaun Watson-Smith can offer £100,000

HonoraryNortherner · Post by **HonoraryNortherner** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:53

Samster wrote:
HonoraryNortherner wrote:Team Dynamics is certainly interested at running a third car, but for the right price.

We'd look at Luke Hines, Stefan Hodgetts, Kelvin Burt, Jan Magnussen, Erkut Kizilirmark and Shaun Watson Smith. We'll make a decision on who gets the drive after we have heard the driver's offers if they are interested in the drive.

Well Magnussen certainly wouldn't pay for a drive since he races for Corvette in GT.

Kelvin Burt I don't think has the funding.

Erkut Kizilirmak can offer £800,000
Luke Hines can offer £500,000
Shaun Watson-Smith can offer £100,000

We'll offer Kizilirmak the drive.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Dec 2012, 23:04

If it's not too late, Tech-Speed would like to run a third car (#79) with a Vauxhall Astra Coupe '01. Our order of preference is;

Tim Coronel
Gordon Shedden
Gavin Smith
Andy Neate
Erkut Kizilirmak
David Pinkney
Richard Marsh

The above choices assume they will contribute 800K+.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 09 Dec 2012, 23:28

Car 1
Mike Jordan £100,000
Frank Biela £75,000
Peter Kox £50,000

If its not too late, could we also have another 02 MG ZS for either David Pinkney or Erkut Kizilimark, provided they bring at least £800,000? (I'd rather have Pinkney)

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Dec 2012, 23:36

kostas22 wrote:If it's not too late, Tech-Speed would like to run a third car (#79) with a Vauxhall Astra Coupe '01. Our order of preference is;

Tim Coronel
Gordon Shedden
Gavin Smith
Andy Neate
Erkut Kizilirmak
David Pinkney
Richard Marsh

The above choices assume they will contribute 800K+.

kostas22 wrote:Andy Neate

kostas22 wrote:Andy Neate

kostas22 wrote:Andy Neate

Oh dear god, no...