2013 United States GP Discussion Thread

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 16 Nov 2013, 16:09

Alright, who thinks both Ferraris will struggle/fail to get into Q3 today?

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 16:11

good_Ralf wrote:Alright, who thinks both Ferraris will struggle/fail to get into Q3 today?

Me and it would be utterly embarrasing if that happened and a Williams plus both Saubers make it through. Those clouds looked ominous though (but don't mention the word

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To Kubica fans are you watching the Feature on Sky right now?

watka · Post by **watka** » 16 Nov 2013, 17:59

dinizintheoven wrote:All together now, the Formula One Bernie's Personal Gold-Plated-Train-Kept-A'Rollin' Blues!

Accompanied by Damon Hill on lead guitar with only three strings and a few extra woodworm-related holes.

Jules: *parps on harmonica* Moi, mon prénom, je m'appelle Malheureusement...
Damon: *strums guitar, two strings are out of tune, so the other one is entirely academic*
Pastor: Soy Señor Maldonado Miseridad... *Jules trills harmonica again*
Jules: J'ai perdu ma belle femme...
Pastor: ¡Y muchos nimbos cumulos! ¡Ay caramba!
Damon: *another string breaks*
Glass of Milk: TIMMAH!
Bernie: Quiet, you lot.
Pastor: Si, señor.
Jules: D'accord.
Glass of Milk: TIMMAH!

I like this a lot.

And for the record, yes the Ferraris look like their struggling. Perhaps Lotus do have a shot at 3rd in the championship.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:01

Here we go then Q1 underway kicked off by Mr Talent

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:23

Woah, Bottas loves North America, doesn't he?

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:23

Maldonado could be the RotR after VB got a top 10 in Q1, while The Reverend kicked the bucket :lol:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:29

Maldonado was bad but was blocked by Chilton and Gutierrez. Gutierrez's piece of blocking was totally inexcusable and i won't be surprised if he takes a penalty for that. Chilton deserves a mention for being nothing but a mobile chicane all session. I thought Sutil suffered a puncture at the end and if that's the case then Crofty and Brundle deserve a mention for thinking it was a transmission problem

If you'd said to me after Spain that Williams would beat Ferrari in a straight fight in Q1 on the same tire I would have laughed at that. good_ralf's predictions are about to come true

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:30

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:good_ralf's predictions are about to come true

Which were based on yours from Abu Dhabi. Oh well.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:38

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:43

Looks like Eurobrun might be using a Bottas avatar for the off season after all. :twisted:

Lel at Rosberg and Massa.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:44

Kova and Bottas!! But wow Bottas!!

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:45

Button Rosberg and Massa all out. Just when you thought Rosberg was in form that happens. Bottas IIDOTQ whatever happens

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:45

Bottas will be the surprise of the weekend.

JB out, Checo in for Q3. I want to see Whitmarsh's face in this moment :lol:

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:46

Bottas just flat-out schooled the Reverend today. Williams looks brillant for keeping him. I hope they let him go balls-out in Q3.

Perez making a statement too. That's surprising. And Vettel only running 6 laps combined in Q1 and Q2, thats rather.......confident?

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:47

Pastor claiming that someone has been playing around with his car. He's pissed alright. :lol:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:48

East Londoner wrote:Pastor claiming that someone has been playing around with his car. He's pissed alright.

I would love it if another Spain 2012 style performance happens

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:51

Bottas purple in sector 2....they've taken him off the leash

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:53

Wallio wrote:Bottas purple in sector 2....they've taken him off the leash

Brundle summed it up nicely by saying that now The Reverend has spat his dummy with his boo-hoo they can focus more on Valterri and he's thriving from this

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:54

maybe not....wtf boooo!

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:56

Wallio wrote:maybe not....wtf boooo!

I don't understand that what are you saying?

Looks like a pole battle is on with Webber leading Seb by 0.152 with 3:45 left

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 16 Nov 2013, 18:57

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
Wallio wrote:maybe not....wtf boooo!

I don't understand that what are you saying?

Looks like a pole battle is on with Webber leading Seb by 0.152 with 3:45 left

Bottas didn't set a time. Williams pulled him in. Boo! Chilton nearly 5secs off pole.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:00

Webber will get a crap start so him being faster than Vettel means.....nothing :lol:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:02

Dark77 wrote:Webber will get a crap start so him being faster than Vettel means.....nothing

It's irrelevant now Seb pulls it out of the bag to take pole. He da man :mrgreen:

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:03

VETTELWINSLOL

But at least, the young guns will be the ones to follow tomorrow. Great effort of Kovi, Bottas and the Cuates

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:03

Well, I'm not bothering with this race. VETTELWINSLOL, Bottas 8th. :cry:

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:03

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
Dark77 wrote:Webber will get a crap start so him being faster than Vettel means.....nothing

It's irrelevant now Seb pulls it out of the bag to take pole. He da man

Damn that was a hellva lap

Bottas was P3 with less than a minute left. Epic run by him.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:03

Nico Hulkenberg

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:04

East Londoner wrote:Well, I'm not bothering with this race. VETTELWINSLOL, Bottas 8th.

Won't miss you mate.

I don't mean that as a threat i mean that is it's wise not to make assumptions before a race has even started. After 20 laps I can understand but not before it's started

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:12

East Londoner wrote:Well, I'm not bothering with this race. VETTELWINSLOL, Bottas 8th.

Fair assumption to make.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:15

Well, it looks like Queens of the Stone Age picked the right time to come to Dublin.

Until next week, folks.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:19

Anyway enough of Seb I think Maldonado has just put the final nail in his 2014 plans with his attitude today stating that Williams sabotaged him. He appears to make Di Resta have a cheery attitude. Just for the amusement of myself and dr-baker who would want to see Susie Wolff in Pastor's car in Brazil?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:22

A bit disappointed by that session. It was sad to see Bottas slide further and further down from 3rd and eventually wind up 9th, even though he did a super big effort to even get there in the first place. Yes Hulkenberg was 4th and Kovalainen was 8th, but that means they will start on the dirty side of the grid which made a big impact on the start last year. A lot of people who started in even grid slots made much poorer starts than those starting on odd grid slots.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:28

Wow isn't Maldonado a nasty piece of work- I doubt Williams have ruined the car -aka Andrea Moda it may have something to do with YOUR driving style. And remember other teams HE is on the market!!!

I WILL watch the race tomorrow just for my faint prayers of a great Grosjean win. Or an Epic Red Bull fight for every lap!!!!!

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:29

rachel1990 wrote:Wow isn't Maldonado a nasty piece of work- I doubt Williams have ruined the car -aka Andrea Moda it may have something to do with YOUR driving style. And remember other teams HE is on the market!!!

I WILL watch the race tomorrow just for my faint prayers of a great Grosjean win. Or an Epic Red Bull fight for every lap!!!!!

Well Claire Williams's interview with Sky just said it all Williams would NEVER EVER do something like that. Go Home Pastor Maldonado

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 16 Nov 2013, 19:49

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
rachel1990 wrote:Wow isn't Maldonado a nasty piece of work- I doubt Williams have ruined the car -aka Andrea Moda it may have something to do with YOUR driving style. And remember other teams HE is on the market!!!

I WILL watch the race tomorrow just for my faint prayers of a great Grosjean win. Or an Epic Red Bull fight for every lap!!!!!

Well Claire Williams's interview with Sky just said it all Williams would NEVER EVER do something like that. Go Home Pastor Maldonado

Williams has never played games like team orders before, has it?

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 16 Nov 2013, 20:45

Massa said in brazilian tv coverage there is something wrong with your car. He doesn't know the cause of the problem, but he and the team are going to find it. Also, he said if they can't fix the problem, your race is going to be "disastrous".

Edit.

Chilton handed a drive-through penalty for impeding in qualify. Stewards are getting ridiculous with this. How about put him starting 10 slots back? Its a fair more penalty than this.

I think if FIA hires monkeys to do the Stewards job will be way better, because Monkeys are cheap and they could do a better work.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 16 Nov 2013, 23:27

Why are pre-race drive-through penalties suddenly all the rage now? If the guy who would receive a grid-penalty for a driving offense is starting in last place anyway, why not just give him a fine? Back-of-the-grid teams are usually short on money so a fine would make more sense as a penalty than a drive-through early in the race.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 17 Nov 2013, 00:17

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Anyway enough of Seb I think Maldonado has just put the final nail in his 2014 plans with his attitude today stating that Williams sabotaged him. He appears to make Di Resta have a cheery attitude. Just for the amusement of myself and dr-baker who would want to see Susie Wolff in Pastor's car in Brazil?

The most recent autograph I got may be Pastor's, and it was at the Williams factory that I got it, and he did get Williams's most recent victory, so a bit of a soft spot there, BUT... Exactly what he said!

Post by **mario** » 17 Nov 2013, 08:06

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
rachel1990 wrote:Wow isn't Maldonado a nasty piece of work- I doubt Williams have ruined the car -aka Andrea Moda it may have something to do with YOUR driving style. And remember other teams HE is on the market!!!

I WILL watch the race tomorrow just for my faint prayers of a great Grosjean win. Or an Epic Red Bull fight for every lap!!!!!

Well Claire Williams's interview with Sky just said it all Williams would NEVER EVER do something like that. Go Home Pastor Maldonado

I have to agree that, ever since he won back in 2012, his attitude changed for the worst and the frustrations of this season seem to have only aggravated that even more. I do have to wonder whether he is really saying that because Bottas has, frankly, blown him into next week this weekend now that he is being given more support from the team and Maldonado does not like being beaten by a rookie.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 17 Nov 2013, 08:43

just seen this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24976578
I don't think he will finish the race and if that continues it may be too much for him to compete in Brazil??