Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 19:01
Nope, the 2014 series is just a copycat season.
Ataxia wrote:Nope, the 2014 series is just a copycat season.
Hmmm yes, however both are run in the same haphazard way
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Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 19:05
Hmmm yes, however both are run in the same haphazard way
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 19:11
andrew wrote:UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....
Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE
Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.
If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 19:13
FMecha wrote:andrew wrote:UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....
Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE
Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.
If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET.
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 21:43
Missed the good sponsor opportunities because monday i went to a concert of Me First And The Gimme Gimmes, and i prefer having actual fun over being competitive. But anyway, instead of gay-punk, back to business now 
Ligier:
Type 1 Sponsors
Elf (3.5mil)
If this fails:
Goodyear (1mil, team must use Goodyear tires)
Type 2 Sponsors
Winston (0.5mil)
Type 3 Sponsors
Personal (0.4mil)
Tyres: Goodyear. It's a gamble, but at least we'll be sort of a 'works Goodyear team'
Ligier:
Type 1 Sponsors
Elf (3.5mil)
If this fails:
Goodyear (1mil, team must use Goodyear tires)
Type 2 Sponsors
Winston (0.5mil)
Type 3 Sponsors
Personal (0.4mil)
Tyres: Goodyear. It's a gamble, but at least we'll be sort of a 'works Goodyear team'
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 05:26
I´m NOT Finnish. Perhaps it came because I was on a vacation in Finland 2 weeks ago..FMecha wrote:andrew wrote:UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....
Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE
Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.
If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 11:33
andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money
The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 22:42
I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 22:59
Actually, you know what? McLaren will run completely without sponsorship this season, because yolo 
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 23:43
Ataxia wrote:andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money
The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.
This. I found it slightly confusing at first, but I used my mind and 42 to get some decent sponsors. How else would Coloni have about 1/4 of Ferrari's budget?
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 05:32
Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 07:07
FA1L wrote:Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Can I have a list of what is available
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 07:29
Williams will be running without Type 2 and Type 3 sponsors this season.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 10:38
go_Rubens wrote:Ataxia wrote:andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money
The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.
This. I found it slightly confusing at first, but I used my mind and 42 to get some decent sponsors. How else would Coloni have about 1/4 of Ferrari's budget?
Be prepared for the dawn of the March era of domination
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 13:32
andrew wrote:FA1L wrote:Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Can I have a list of what is available
Tier 1:
Agip (4.4mil)
Certina (2mil)
Rolex (1.7mil)
Pepsi (1.5mil)
Johnnie Walker (0.2mil)
Mountain Dew (0.1mil)
Tier 2:
Osama (0.2mil)
Sega (0.2mil)
Zerowatt (0.1mil)
Texaco (0.1mil)
Shoei (0.1mil)
Talbot (0.1mil)
Tier 3:
Petromin (0.4mil)
Zucchini (0.3mil)
Adidas (0.2mil)
Emerson (0.1mil)
Fami (0.1mil)
Falke (0.1mil)
Pernod (0.1mil)
Scania (0.1mil)
Olympus (0.1mil)
…unless I´m completely mistaken
Re: Alternative F1-1989 Season (Tyre Contracts Wanted!)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 13:47
^I have Capcom, and you forget to account for those:
FA1L wrote:FMecha wrote:Can I have tiers and money they will pay for the following sponsors?
Barclay (cigarettes) (Tier 2/0.5mil)
Microsoft (Tier 2/0.5mil
Martini (Tier 1/1.2mil
USF&G (Tier 1/0.7mil)
ATS (Tier 2/0.6mil)
DeLonghi (Tier 3/0.2mil)
Fondmetal (Tier 3/0.4mil)
Leyton House (Tier 1/1mil)
Gitanes (Tier 1/1.8mil)
Motul (Tier 2/0.9mil)
Jagermeister (Tier 1/3mil)
Iceberg (watches) (Tier 3/0.3mil)
Re: Alternative F1-1989 Season (Tyre Contracts Wanted!)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 14:15
None of them has been taken?FMecha wrote:^I have Capcom, and you forget to account for those:FA1L wrote:FMecha wrote:Can I have tiers and money they will pay for the following sponsors?
Barclay (cigarettes) (Tier 2/0.5mil)
Microsoft (Tier 2/0.5mil
Martini (Tier 1/1.2mil
USF&G (Tier 1/0.7mil)
ATS (Tier 2/0.6mil)
DeLonghi (Tier 3/0.2mil)
Fondmetal (Tier 3/0.4mil)
Leyton House (Tier 1/1mil)
Gitanes (Tier 1/1.8mil)
Motul (Tier 2/0.9mil)
Jagermeister (Tier 1/3mil)
Iceberg (watches) (Tier 3/0.3mil)
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 16:19
I'll take agip then
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!/Sponsor Contracts)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 16:20
Can Zakspeed have Rolex and Sega please?
Re: AltF1-1989 (One More Manager Needed!/Sponsors!)
Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 21:21
Can I take Dallara.
Sponsors: Certina, Texaco and Zucchini.
Sponsors: Certina, Texaco and Zucchini.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Dallara Manager Needed!)
Posted: 01 Mar 2014, 17:25
This wrote:
Tyres: Goodyear. It's a gamble, but at least we'll be sort of a 'works Goodyear team'
Oh really? I'll duel you for it.
Re: AltF1-1989 (Sponsor Deadline 2/3/2014!)
Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 03:59
Can Fondmetal as T3 sponsor? I have
I haveRe: AltF1-1989 (Sponsor Deadline 2/3/2014!)
Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 04:32
So Agip are paying top dollar to sponsor a team that has never turned a wheel in anger and were literally broke to start with. Yeah, seems legit
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989
Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 08:03
Sponsor deadline was today. The sponsor list is now finalized.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989
Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 08:36
Thaught I had only one sponser spot left, I'll take fami and and motul
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 13:02
Okay, the next thing is engines:
Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari
Renault V12 1986, with the turbo removed
Costs 3.5mil, is very fast but unreliable. Can only be 1 team's engine
Lamborghini V12 1989
Costs 3mil, a bit slower than Renault, can only supply 1 team
Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil
Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity
Mercedes V10 1987
Engine used in the WSC. Costs 2.4mil
Hart V8 1989
Costs 2.3mil, faster but not so reliable than Judd
Cosworth V8 1989
Costs 2mil, slow but reliable
Peugeot V8 1989
A new trier in engines, costs 1mil. Can supply 2 teams
Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari
Renault V12 1986, with the turbo removed
Costs 3.5mil, is very fast but unreliable. Can only be 1 team's engine
Lamborghini V12 1989
Costs 3mil, a bit slower than Renault, can only supply 1 team
Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil
Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity
Mercedes V10 1987
Engine used in the WSC. Costs 2.4mil
Hart V8 1989
Costs 2.3mil, faster but not so reliable than Judd
Cosworth V8 1989
Costs 2mil, slow but reliable
Peugeot V8 1989
A new trier in engines, costs 1mil. Can supply 2 teams
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 13:24
Tyrrell Engine Bid
Honda V12 1988
Judd V10 1989
Cosworth V8 1989
Honda V12 1988
Judd V10 1989
Cosworth V8 1989
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 13:44
Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 13:54
There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:00
FA1L wrote:There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
Actually, it was in 1991, they supplied Minardi.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:27
Ah, OK. But, it was 1991, and this is 2 years earlier..Salamander wrote:FA1L wrote:There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
Actually, it was in 1991, they supplied Minardi.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:31
Even though some of the engines are quite unrealistic, we will bid for the following engines:
in order of preference
Judd
Hart
Cosworth
Peugeot
in order of preference
Judd
Hart
Cosworth
Peugeot
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:42
March would like to bid for the following, in order of preference:
1st: Honda - 2.8m
2nd: Hart - 2.3m
3rd: Judd - 2.5m
1st: Honda - 2.8m
2nd: Hart - 2.3m
3rd: Judd - 2.5m
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:45
Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari
Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil
Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity
they are the engines for larrouse
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari
Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil
Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity
they are the engines for larrouse
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:48
Honda and Renault had new engines for 1989, not merely old V6s with turbos removed, FA1L. Anyway, Brabham will go for:
Judd
Mercedes
Although we won't take the Peugeots, can we have specs on their engine?
You can't have Ferrari engines Rob.
Judd
Mercedes
Although we won't take the Peugeots, can we have specs on their engine?
roblomas52 wrote:Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari
Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil
Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity
they are the engines for larrouse
You can't have Ferrari engines Rob.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:53
They are bad at first, but they'll improve and become one of the top engines for the mid-90s.FMecha wrote:Although we won't take the Peugeots, can we have specs on their engine?
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 15:16
We will nod for hart and Judd
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 15:19
FA1L wrote:Ah, OK. But, it was 1991, and this is 2 years earlier..
Yeah, but I don't see what would be so bad about allowing Ferrari customer engines now.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 15:19
I checked the first post and Tyrrell are listed to have no sponsors. I listed my sponsors on page 2.
Re: Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Engines!)
Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 15:46
Renault and Honda ran V6 Turbos, not V10/12s. And Mercedes ran a F12 in the Wsc, and Peugeot ran a V10 not a V8, and not until much later........
And where is Yamaha?
Zakspeed will take Cosworths.
And where is Yamaha?
Zakspeed will take Cosworths.