Alt-F1 1981 - Season Preview Part II

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:13

Well now that I have March I guess I need to sort some stuff out:

Engines - we will negotiate with anyone who wants us
Drivers - any good drivers left? (actually any old driver will do!)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:25

I will take over the Lamborghini engines. Merzario will renew with them for another season. We'd also like to reach a hand out to Minardi and offer them a customer contract if they so wish.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:30

V8fan12 wrote:Engines - we will negotiate with anyone who wants us

Alfa Romeo is more than interested in providing March with engines. We either offer a one-year contract with no strings attached or a three-year contract (i.e. until the end of 1983) with a guarantee to provide March with any new version of our engines in exchange for deciding one of March's drivers during one of the contract years (you can choose which).

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:46

HawkAussie wrote:Can I please go on the waiting list.

You completely forgot me, but that is fine

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:49

Datsun purchase Brabham
Japanese car manufacturer Datsun has entered Formula 1 by buying a majority share in Motor Racing Developments shortly before the start of the 1981 season. The team originally planned to change the constructor name from Brabham-Renault to Datsun-Renault, but a dispute with FISA immediately after confirming the name will see the team continue as Brabham for the forseeable future.
It is understood that Datsun will not build their new chassis themselves, but have instead outsourced their work to Rosenforth Engineering, a Milton Keynes-based firm formed a few years ago by former racer Nigel Rosenforth.
In a statement released by Datsun today, the compant said "We've decided to enter Formula 1, because we feel it's a good way to get some brand awareness around the world." Datsun also confirmed why Rosenforth would be preparing the chassis. "We have got the means to design a chassis, which we are doing. But Rosenforth have the means to build the chassis and make it competitive, and made a very good proposal to us when we were looking for a partner."
Parmalat will retain the naming sponsorship of the team, and they will be entered as Parmalat Team Datsun, while the chassis will called the Brabham 810F.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Mar 2014, 21:56

Renault is happy to supply any and all teams with our latest and greatest powerplant yet. Off the back of our first season supplying engines to other teams, 3 of the top 4 constructors were powered by Renault engines. This includes the Lotus team, to whom Renault engines were critical in their domination of 1980 and sweep of both titles. 10 of the 17 Grand Prix in 1980 were won by a Renault engine, and thanks to the extensive mileage we got last year by supplying 5 teams, our new 1981-spec engines will be our most reliable yet, with all the power you can expect from a turbo. No strings attached whatsoever, contract can be as long or as short as you like. We may ask you to employ a certain driver or two at some point, but this is only a request and you are by no means obligated to comply.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 28 Mar 2014, 22:22

Salamander wrote:Renault is happy to supply any and all teams with our latest and greatest powerplant yet. Off the back of our first season supplying engines to other teams, 3 of the top 4 constructors were powered by Renault engines. This includes the Lotus team, to whom Renault engines were critical in their domination of 1980 and sweep of both titles. 10 of the 17 Grand Prix in 1980 were won by a Renault engine, and thanks to the extensive mileage we got last year by supplying 5 teams, our new 1981-spec engines will be our most reliable yet, with all the power you can expect from a turbo. No strings attached whatsoever, contract can be as long or as short as you like. We may ask you to employ a certain driver or two at some point, but this is only a request and you are by no means obligated to comply.

McLaren are very highly interested in negotiating a potential deal.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Mar 2014, 22:29

roblomas52 wrote:McLaren are very highly interested in negotiating a potential deal.

Believe me, you'd be better off with Alfa Romeo engines. We can give you exclusive support that Renault just cannot do, because of the sheer mass of teams they supply.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 28 Mar 2014, 22:48

Klon wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:McLaren are very highly interested in negotiating a potential deal.

Believe me, you'd be better off with Alfa Romeo engines. We can give you exclusive support that Renault just cannot do, because of the sheer mass of teams they supply.

Or with Hart engines, just because they'd be so cheap, you can still buy Alfa's or Renaults!

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 28 Mar 2014, 22:49

Salamander wrote:Renault is happy to supply any and all teams with our latest and greatest powerplant yet. Off the back of our first season supplying engines to other teams, 3 of the top 4 constructors were powered by Renault engines. This includes the Lotus team, to whom Renault engines were critical in their domination of 1980 and sweep of both titles. 10 of the 17 Grand Prix in 1980 were won by a Renault engine, and thanks to the extensive mileage we got last year by supplying 5 teams, our new 1981-spec engines will be our most reliable yet, with all the power you can expect from a turbo. No strings attached whatsoever, contract can be as long or as short as you like. We may ask you to employ a certain driver or two at some point, but this is only a request and you are by no means obligated to comply.

Naturally, Restov are highly interested in continuing their partnership with Renault.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 28 Mar 2014, 23:48

Spirit will reserve its first seat to Italian driver Catalina Bertinelli, for the other seat, I will nominate the following offers:

David Kennedy
Alex Dias Ribeiro
Lamberto Leoni
Patrick Gaillard
Bobby Rahal

For the test driver seat we will nominate Derek Warwick and the reserve seat will be filled by Hans Heyer

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 29 Mar 2014, 03:42

Klon wrote:
V8fan12 wrote:Engines - we will negotiate with anyone who wants us

Alfa Romeo is more than interested in providing March with engines. We either offer a one-year contract with no strings attached or a three-year contract (i.e. until the end of 1983) with a guarantee to provide March with any new version of our engines in exchange for deciding one of March's drivers during one of the contract years (you can choose which).

We would like to take up the one-year contract please.

Also we will bid for the following drivers:

Driver 1
Jody Scheckter
Rene Arnoux
Mario Andretti
Jochen Mass

Driver 2
Rupert Keegan
Marc Surer
Derek Daly
Gianfranco Brancatelli

Reserve Driver
Riccardo Patrese
Danny Ongais

Test Driver
Geoff Lees

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Mar 2014, 04:13

Klon wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:McLaren are very highly interested in negotiating a potential deal.

Believe me, you'd be better off with Alfa Romeo engines. We can give you exclusive support that Renault just cannot do, because of the sheer mass of teams they supply.

You mean the exclusive support Osella got last year? A fat load of good that will do anyone.

Regardless, Renault are very interested in supplying McLaren for 1981 - the contract is on the table. Just specify how long you want it for.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 29 Mar 2014, 04:52

shinji was the one managing Ligier right? Since you kicked him out of the Ligier management seat, I'll just drop Eadbhard (sp?

) from the choice list, leaving only Nurmester as the fictional driver choice.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 29 Mar 2014, 07:27

Lotus would like to continue the partnership with Renault for 1981

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Mar 2014, 08:38

AxelP800 wrote:Lotus would like to continue the partnership with Renault for 1981

Consider it continued, then.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 29 Mar 2014, 09:11

Thomas Nurmester accepts the Tyrrell offer.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 29 Mar 2014, 10:07

Salamander wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Lotus would like to continue the partnership with Renault for 1981

Consider it continued, then.

Oh I think what I mean is Lotus want to continue with Renault :oops:

Post by **tommykl** » 29 Mar 2014, 10:22

V8fan12 wrote:Rupert Keegan

As mentioned above, the previous Rupert Keegan hass been retconned into a fictional driver named Robert Kagan and who is controlled by myself and who would be happy to drive the second March.

Failing that, he'll take his talent to the Toleman reserve drive.

Post by **Ataxia** » 29 Mar 2014, 11:41

First things first, I'll be happy to stick with Talbot/Matra for '81 IF it's possible for a capable member to run the engine division. If this isn't possible, then I will re-assess the engine plan.

Considering I've had no chance whatsoever to retain Laffite, we will bid to bring Jody Scheckter into the team as the lead driver. Failing that, we'll try and get Arnoux or Depailler.

For the second car, we'll bid for Warwick, Patrese and Eddie Cheever (in that order).

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 29 Mar 2014, 11:51

Salamander wrote:
Klon wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:McLaren are very highly interested in negotiating a potential deal.

Believe me, you'd be better off with Alfa Romeo engines. We can give you exclusive support that Renault just cannot do, because of the sheer mass of teams they supply.

You mean the exclusive support Osella got last year? A fat load of good that will do anyone.

Regardless, Renault are very interested in supplying McLaren for 1981 - the contract is on the table. Just specify how long you want it for.

Does 2 years sound alright?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Mar 2014, 11:54

roblomas52 wrote:
Salamander wrote:Regardless, Renault are very interested in supplying McLaren for 1981 - the contract is on the table. Just specify how long you want it for.

Does 2 years sound alright?

2 years will be fine.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Mar 2014, 12:07

As agreed on the chat, Restov will purchase the 1980 Renault chassis' and engines, and run them as our own for 1981. Continuing the arrangement we had last year, the engines will promptly be renamed Ladas, for marketing reasons.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 29 Mar 2014, 12:41

V8fan12 wrote:
Klon wrote:
V8fan12 wrote:Engines - we will negotiate with anyone who wants us

Alfa Romeo is more than interested in providing March with engines. We either offer a one-year contract with no strings attached or a three-year contract (i.e. until the end of 1983) with a guarantee to provide March with any new version of our engines in exchange for deciding one of March's drivers during one of the contract years (you can choose which).

We would like to take up the one-year contract please.

Very well. Alfa Romeo and March sign a one-year engine contract.

Post by **kevinbotz** » 29 Mar 2014, 16:43

Arrows are very interested in securing a Renault engine supply.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 29 Mar 2014, 17:20

Nuppiz wrote:Thomas Nurmester accepts the Tyrrell offer.

And therefore Martini became the driver in the second seat

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Mar 2014, 18:28

kevinbotz wrote:Arrows are very interested in securing a Renault engine supply.

Renault agree to supply engines to Arrows for 2 years.

Post by **Ataxia** » 29 Mar 2014, 18:29

In a change of heart, I'll be managing the Matra (formerly Talbot) engine supply. If anyone is interested in them, holla at me.

Post by **Londoner** » 29 Mar 2014, 18:43

Wolf would like to extend their engine partnership with Renault for a further three seasons.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Mar 2014, 19:13

East Londoner wrote:Wolf would like to extend their engine partnership with Renault for a further three seasons.

Renault agree to an extended partnership with Wolf.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 29 Mar 2014, 21:17

Dats- er, Brabhram would naturally like to continue with Renault :mrgreen:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 29 Mar 2014, 21:20

Patrick Depailler
Goes to Brabham 1-60
Waits for Ligier 61-100
92!

Riccardo Patrese
Signs with Brabham 1-50
Waits for Ligier 51-90
Accepts March reserve 91-100
29!

Johnny Cecotto
Accepts RAM testing deal 1-95
Denies 96-100
59

Emerson Fittipaldi
Accepts McLaren contract 1-80
Waits for other offers 81-100
74!

Jody Scheckter
Ligier 1-50
McLaren 51-70
March 71-80
Retires from F1 81-100
25!

Jochen Mass
McLaren 1-70
Waits for March seat 71-100
84!

Dave Kennedy
Signs with Spirit 1-75
Denies offer 76-100
45

Rene Arnoux accepts the March offer.

Jochen Mass, Marc Surer, Derek Daly and Ginafranco Brancatelli all wait to see if Robert Kagan signs with March

Danny Ongais
Accepts March offer 1-45
Stays in America 46-100
55

Derek Warwick
Signs with Ligier 1-75
Waits for McLaren 76-100
86, Warwick waits for a McLaren offer.

Eddie Cheever
Accepts Ligier offer 1-94
Declines 95-100
61

Enzo Coloni
Joins Osella 1-35
Declines 36-100
57!

Renzo Zorzi
Signs with Osella 1-65
Declines 66-100
77!

Piero Necchi
Signs with Osella 1-70
Declines 71-100
86!

Alberto Colombo
Signs for Osella 1-85
Declines 86-100
41!

The following teams still need to make more bids:
McLaren needs to bid for drivers for their second seat. Derek Warwick is looking for a McLaren drive.
March need to confirm whether they are signing Robert Kagan
Tyrrell needs to make more bids for the second seat. Martini has gone to Minardi.
Tyrrell, Datsun, Ligier, Toleman, McLaren, Minardi, Spirit and March need to make/confirm bids for their reserve seat.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 30 Mar 2014, 00:02

We confirm that Hans Heyer will fill our seat due to a BMW request

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Mar 2014, 00:08

Cool, Scheckter and Cheever's decent enough. We'll make a bid for Brian Henton to be our reserve driver.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 30 Mar 2014, 05:37

As he was not our first choice, we will not be signing Robert Kagan.

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Mar 2014, 06:46

Well, Kagan will go to Toleman as reserve driver then.

Also, V8fan12, if Kagan wasn't your first choice, why was he the first on your list?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Mar 2014, 07:36

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Dats- er, Brabhram would naturally like to continue with Renault

Renault are happy to continue providing Datsun/Brabham with engines. If you want a multi-year deal, just say how long you want it to be.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Mar 2014, 08:32

McLaren will accept Warick.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Mar 2014, 09:29

tommykl wrote:Well, Kagan will go to Toleman as reserve driver then.

Also, V8fan12, if Kagan wasn't your first choice, why was he the first on your list?

Would Kagan be interested in a race seat at Shadow?

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Mar 2014, 10:39

pasta_maldonado wrote:
tommykl wrote:Well, Kagan will go to Toleman as reserve driver then.

Also, V8fan12, if Kagan wasn't your first choice, why was he the first on your list?

Would Kagan be interested in a race seat at Shadow?

That works too