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Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 15:37
by tommykl
Toro Rosso's drivers haven't been confirmed on the entry list, but Alguersuari and Buemi are almost definitely going to race for them.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 20:49
by F1000X
tommykl wrote:Toro Rosso's drivers haven't been confirmed on the entry list, but Alguersuari and Buemi are almost definitely going to race for them.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 21:37
by watka
F1000X wrote:tommykl wrote:Toro Rosso's drivers haven't been confirmed on the entry list, but Alguersuari and Buemi are almost definitely going to race for them.
I was going to reply instantly that they don't really have much choice, but come to think of it, I would definitely prefer to see Ricciardo or Chandhok (with his Red Bull connections) in Buemi's seat. Perhaps they should have actually considered getting a more experienced driver who could push them into the points positions and make them a bit more marketable.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 22:08
by Warren Hughes
I disagree with popular opinion on the Toro Rosso thing. For me they have to keep both their drivers - they're both still young, they're both still learning their trade, and I think Toro Rosso need to build the long-term strategy for their team around these two drivers. I think stability is an underrated concept in modern Formula 1, as the vast amount of money involved dictates that immediate results are demanded by people who are more interested in dollars than racing.
Toro Rosso have, in my opinion, a driver line-up with considerable potential, a lot of growing up still to be done, and more than capable pace. OK, Buemi's had a slightly difficult 2nd season, but he impressed last year (seeing off a former F3000 champion and 4-time CART champion in the process) and has shown occasional flashes this year too - Canada springs to mind - and he'll grow out of the crashing tendencies - look at Felipe Massa, and to a lesser extent, our beloved Taku.
Alguersuari, meanwhile, is a potential future race winner in my opinion. Seriously. His highs are perhaps not as high as Buemi's, but his lows are not very low at all. He only retired twice all season - both mechanical failures - and has more than proved his right to be in F1. What's more, he's shown a very impressive ability to learn. We all remember him repeatedly throwing it into the scenery at Suzuka 2009, but he's matured very quickly and has been able to cut that out of his game almost completely. He seems to have an old head on young shoulders, and if he's nurtured in the right way, I think he'll be a good fit for Red Bull when Webber finally packs it in (whenever that will be). If that sort of break doesn't come his way, then I still think he'll prove to be a Nick Heidfeld type, one who can be relied upon to bring the car home in as good a position it can possibly manage. Maybe that's why I like him, because he reminds me of Heidfeld. Yes I'm weird like that.
That was my longest post ever. It took me fully 15 minutes to write, and wasn't even that insightful. Mario, you have my full respect now, as if you didn't before! As do you Enoch!
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 26 Dec 2010, 22:35
by F1000X
Warren Hughes wrote:Buemi's had a slightly difficult 2nd season, but he impressed last year (seeing off a former F3000 champion and 4-time CART champion in the process).
Good post, valid points all around. But in Sebastian (Monsieur McDonald's) Bourdais' defence, he should have been in an F1 car in 2003, not 2008. All that time away from the european circuits hurt him.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 08:18
by Nessafox
But buemi is just one of the ugliest drivers ever, sure, he can't help it, and in daily live that's the last thing i judge a person on, but still i never want to see him on the podium. So actually i just hope he's crap
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 10:50
by SDHammer
According to Autosport.com GP2 journeyman Luca Fillipi hasn't given up hopes of an F1 seat next year....even if its just a test drivers role. Personally I think he's only got an outside chance at best.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 12:01
by Captain Hammer
This wrote:But buemi is just one of the ugliest drivers ever
He's prettier than Kubica and Petrov.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 27 Dec 2010, 19:52
by thehemogoblin
Captain Hammer wrote:This wrote:But buemi is just one of the ugliest drivers ever
He's prettier than Kubica and Petrov.
Kubica really isn't helped out by that nose that's about the size of my Christmas tree...
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 15:30
by FullMetalJack
thehemogoblin wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:This wrote:But buemi is just one of the ugliest drivers ever
He's prettier than Kubica and Petrov.
Kubica really isn't helped out by that nose that's about the size of my Christmas tree...
That's a nose, I thought someone parked a bus on his face.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 28 Dec 2010, 23:59
by F1000X
Someone (possibly Mark Webber) was filmed in a prerace interview on American F1 coverage saying (with regards to Robert's claims to losing weight to improve fitness and lower cars center of gravity) that he should "do something about that nose."
Edit: it was definitely one of three people. DC, Mark, or Button.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 29 Dec 2010, 13:52
by Yannick
Why is it that Force 1ndia hasn't announced their driver lineup yet? Do they want to wait until the presentation of the new car to keep up the excitement or are they still looking for two decent paydrivers? If it's the latter, Sakon Yamamoto might better spend his money here than at the former Campos outfit, but who could be the 2nd most potent pay driver on the market at the time? Consistency is probably the better way to go, though.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 01:59
by Captain Hammer
Force India won't take Yamamoto. It's more likely that they're still negotiating with their preferred drivers. Plus, it's the Christmas-New Year period. Europe practically shuts down for two weeks. I'm not expecting anything big to start happening until Monday at the very earliest.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 02:10
by Jeroen Krautmeir
Yannick wrote:Why is it that Force 1ndia hasn't announced their driver lineup yet? Do they want to wait until the presentation of the new car to keep up the excitement or are they still looking for two decent paydrivers? If it's the latter, Sakon Yamamoto might better spend his money here than at the former Campos outfit, but who could be the 2nd most potent pay driver on the market at the time? Consistency is probably the better way to go, though.
If it's a paydriver their looking for, I think Bruno Senna is their best bet.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 12:09
by Captain Hammer
But they're not looking for a pay driver. In all likelihood, they're scouring the contracts of Liuzzi and/or Sutil, looking for an out. Plus, it's the Christmas-New Year period. The holidays. Nobody is going to be doing anything for another week.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 14:21
by S951
HRT to start first test in feb 2011 with F110 but with some "extras" whilst their definitive 2011 challenger is sorted according to a thread on autosport and article on gpupdate
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 14:22
by jpm
If I were Vijay Mallya, stuff Niki Lauda, I woould go with di Resta and the Hulk; Sutil has probably climbed the ladder as far as he can go and as much as I like him, I think he may become the new Alex Wurz, being passed around fom team to team and loosing his motivation. Would still welcome him in a Force India in 2011, but he has shown us what he can do; now it's time for di Resta to prove that beating Vettel in F3 was no fluke...
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:59
by Phoenix
Honestly, I find no reason to drop Adrian Sutil in favour of Nico Hülkenberg. He's done a decent 2010 season.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 17:17
by fjackdaw
Does Paul Di Resta know something we haven't yet been told? The 'next drive' counter on his website indicates the Sunday start of the Bahrain GP. Either he's jumping the gun, or has been given the word ahead of the official announcement.
http://pauldiresta.com/home
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 21:17
by thehemogoblin
fjackdaw wrote:Does Paul Di Resta know something we haven't yet been told? The 'next drive' counter on his website indicates the Sunday start of the Bahrain GP. Either he's jumping the gun, or has been given the word ahead of the official announcement.
http://pauldiresta.com/home
YES YES YES YES YES. No more Liuzzi?!
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 23:39
by Captain Hammer
Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 01:58
by thehemogoblin
Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
Dude, that was just me getting all ahead of myself. That's all.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 05:36
by JohnMLTX
thehemogoblin wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
Dude, that was just me getting all ahead of myself. That's all.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 13:09
by Salamander
Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
If that's the case, then why is it counting down for Sunday?
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 13:49
by Cynon
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
If that's the case, then why is it counting down for Sunday?
By that standard, it will be Di Resta and Chandhok in the two Force Indias, because the same counter exists on Chandhok's site too.
http://www.karunchandhok.com/KC/
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 17:58
by Phoenix
That counter is just there because these guys are related to F1, and as such, they have a countback clock to the Bahrain GP as a detail.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 18:08
by thehemogoblin
Phoenix wrote:That counter is just there because these guys are related to F1, and as such, they have a countback clock to the Bahrain GP as a detail.
Shh. You're ruining my dreams.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 18:38
by Phoenix
thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:That counter is just there because these guys are related to F1, and as such, they have a countback clock to the Bahrain GP as a detail.
Shh. You're ruining my dreams.
Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 19:59
by Myrvold
Phoenix wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:That counter is just there because these guys are related to F1, and as such, they have a countback clock to the Bahrain GP as a detail.
Shh. You're ruining my dreams.
Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Are you saying that Santa is fake!
You've ruined my life
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 06:41
by thehemogoblin
Phoenix wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:That counter is just there because these guys are related to F1, and as such, they have a countback clock to the Bahrain GP as a detail.
Shh. You're ruining my dreams.
Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Dude. Wizzie doesn't know yet. Way to go. Way. To. Go. You're going to have to fix that one yourself, amigo.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 07:16
by Row Man Gross-Gene
redbulljack14 wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:He's prettier than Kubica and Petrov.
Kubica really isn't helped out by that nose that's about the size of my Christmas tree...
That's a nose, I thought someone parked a bus on his face.
Stop it guys! Don't change a thing Robert.
The nose plays.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 07:18
by TomWazzleshaw
thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Shh. You're ruining my dreams.
Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Dude. Wizzie doesn't know yet. Way to go. Way. To. Go. You're going to have to fix that one yourself, amigo.
So you're saying he doesn't exist?
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 07:50
by the Masked Lapwing
Wizzie wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Dude. Wizzie doesn't know yet. Way to go. Way. To. Go. You're going to have to fix that one yourself, amigo.
So you're saying he doesn't exist?
He did exist. Phoenix just killed him, that's all
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 02 Jan 2011, 17:15
by Phoenix
The Silly Season just got sillier, thanks to me
BTW, I didn't kill Santa Claus. He's just another lie invented by the CIA. Cope on with that.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 04:22
by Peter
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
If that's the case, then why is it counting down for Sunday?
Stefan GP ahd a countdown to the 2011 season, and look how that turned out...
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 05:27
by F1000X
Peter wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:Don't go getting too far ahead of yourselves - di Resta could just be driving in Friday practice. This confirms nothing.
If that's the case, then why is it counting down for Sunday?
Stefan GP ahd a countdown to the 2011 season, and look how that turned out...
That countdown is still going man. They'll have their car ready by March. Gonna pull a Brawn GP bro. Villeneuve is gonna rack up championship #2.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 05:37
by TomWazzleshaw
F1000X wrote:Peter wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
If that's the case, then why is it counting down for Sunday?
Stefan GP ahd a countdown to the 2011 season, and look how that turned out...
That countdown is still going man. They'll have their car ready by March. Gonna pull a Brawn GP bro. Villeneuve is gonna rack up championship #2.
Jose Maria Lopez says otherwise.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 08:09
by Captain Hammer
Back on-topic ...
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article. ... 6892&FS=F1Blick are reporting that a) Sutil and di Resta will race for Force India in 2011, with Hulkenberg driving on Fridays; and b) Toro Rosso will be purchased by a group of Arab investors.
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 08:27
by TomWazzleshaw
Captain Hammer wrote:b) Toro Rosso will be purchased by a group of Arab investors.
That's going to end well isn't it?
Re: 2011 Silly Season
Posted: 03 Jan 2011, 08:40
by F1000X
Wizzie wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:b) Toro Rosso will be purchased by a group of Arab investors.
That's going to end well isn't it?
If they're anything like Mansour Ojjeh, it's all good.