Grand Prix Rejects

GroupLotusRenault wrote:

Peter wrote:

GroupLotusRenault wrote:HRT seem to have an issue with hiring and then firing indian drivers. But I think no offence to NK, but I think Daniel is a young and talented Australian who in the 2010 after season testing for Red Bull was the fastest in all the tests. Maybe HRT did the right thing for a change.

Well, he was in a Red Bull.

Perhaps HRT are loosening themselves up and now trying to get themselves a more explosive lineup, and they don't think they need the experience Narain provides, as much as before. It's a shame for Narain, but maybe he will still run in FP sessions, or come back in the car sometime later in the year apart from India. Or better yet, remain as a reserve driver for the coming years.

In regards to firing Indian drivers, the reason behind Karun was I believe because his sponsors weren't paying up what they were supposed to, and since Yamamoto was sitting and waiting, with a big wad of cash, HRT in desperate trouble, practically had no choice.

But Webber is in a Red Bull so why isnt we winning? I personally think its a good think as look at Alonso 10 years ago in 2001 Minardi just 20 years old. Small underfunded team beating the Arrows Prost and the odd times the Benetton.

eytl wrote:
Fact: on that basis, Mark Webber is destined to win the British GP (he said, dreaming).

JeremyMcClean wrote:

eytl wrote:
Fact: on that basis, Mark Webber is destined to win the British GP (he said, dreaming).

Unless if you're mistaken

eytl wrote:Fact: it is Daniel Ricciardo's birthday today. "Happy birthday, here, have an HRT drive."

Fact: Silverstone will be the first GP since the 1977 Dutch GP that two Australians have attempted to qualify. (Vern Schuppan DNQed in that event.)

Fact: The last GP that saw two Aussies start was the 1977 Austrian GP.

Fact: Alan Jones won the 1977 Austrian GP. It was his first ever Grand Prix victory.

Fact: on that basis, Mark Webber is destined to win the British GP (he said, dreaming).

Ferrim wrote:The Whole Spanish Press (well, actually only one journalist) is reporting that the Hispania team might have been sold to an unknown enterprise with support from the Japanese Nomura Bank. It says it should be announced tomorrow.

The source is not the most trustworthy (Diario AS), but the particular journalist who reports it's relatively good, so let's wait and see what happens.

mario wrote:IF, and for now it is a big if, the team has been sold, then who is the buyer? After all, Carabantes doesn't actually own a great deal beyond the crucial licence for a grid slot, since most of the actual team (i.e. the personnel and equipment) is owned by Kolles or purchased in from outside (e.g. the Carbotech chassis). I wonder if perhaps one of the unsuccessful past bidders for a grid slot has decided to get around the FIA by buying into an existing team instead, or whether we're seeing something similar to Red Bull's take over of Minardi (i.e. somebody buying them out to form a junior team)?

S951 wrote:stefan gp would be a huge laugh, dream would be return for simtek

Hispania wrote:Thesan Capital acquire a significant shareholding in Spanish Formula 1 team Hispania Racing

2011-07-04


• The Spanish firm becomes the main shareholder of Grupo Inversor Hispania, current owner of the Formula 1 team.

• The objective of Thesan Capital is, maintaining the current team, to develop its strategy to grow in a market with a lot of potential for the upcoming years.


Thesan Capital has reached an agreement by which it has acquired a majority shareholding in Grupo Inversor Hispania from José Ramón Carabante. Grupo Inversor Hispania is the main shareholder of Hispania Racing, owner of the sole Formula 1 license in Spain, under which Hispania Racing races. Thesan Capital thus becomes the controlling shareholder of the Spanish Formula 1 team.

The Spanish investment group will lead the development of Hispania Racing in the upcoming years, maintaining the current team and directors, which is one of the main assets of the company, and will try to develop and search for opportunities to optimize and improve the performance of the team in the upcoming seasons, alongside progressively making the team more Spanish and definitively settling the team in Spain.

The Thesan Capital team, who consider the acquisition of Hispania Racing as an opportunity to enter a sector with great prospects of growing, will work with the aim of strengthening the strategic management of the group.

About Hispania Racing

Hispania Racing, led until now by José Ramón Carabante, became, after making its debut in Bahrain in March of 2010, the first Spanish team in history to take part in the Formula 1 World Championship. After 19 races, the Spanish team was able to finish the Constructors Championship in eleventh place.

Hispania Racing’s official drivers since the start of the season have been Indian Narain Karthikeyan and Italian Vitantonio Liuzzi. Young driver Daniel Ricciardo has recently joined the team after the collaboration deal signed between Hispania Racing and Red Bull Racing.


About Thesan Capital

Thesan Capital forms in 2008 as a platform to develop investment opportunities such as “Principal Investor”, undertaking investments both as single investor and investing alongside its group of co-investors interested in the Iberian market.

Thesan Capital focuses on opportunities in all sectors with a general approach. It does not invest in “start-ups”. It carries out control investments, both in companies with a solid base that need a strong strategic reshuffle linked with an operational and/or financial restructure, and in traditional LBO’s (“leveraged buyouts”)with equity tickets worth more than 50 million euros, in public and private debt, through its alliance with Pamplona Capital Management. The firm has ample experience in complex and special situations.

Peter wrote:

GroupLotusRenault wrote:.

But Webber is in a Red Bull so why isnt we winning? I personally think its a good think as look at Alonso 10 years ago in 2001 Minardi just 20 years old. Small underfunded team beating the Arrows Prost and the odd times the Benetton.

solarcold wrote:Do you remember the Narain's comeback about Massa's complains about him? the "this comes from the one who's seat is under threat"
im not making fun of this, but who knew how will it turn...

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

solarcold wrote:

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

me sincerely, I hope not. don't want to see hrt as another toro rosso dominion

DanielPT wrote:

solarcold wrote:

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

me sincerely, I hope not. don't want to see hrt as another toro rosso dominion

Give it a few years and everyone at the paddock will be related to Red Bull somehow . And this is not just from drinking Red Bull.

DanielPT wrote:

solarcold wrote:

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

me sincerely, I hope not. don't want to see hrt as another toro rosso dominion

Give it a few years and everyone at the paddock will be related to Red Bull somehow. And this is not just from drinking Red Bull.

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

DanielPT wrote:

solarcold wrote:

billy wrote:I wonder if the car will carry any RB sponsorship.

me sincerely, I hope not. don't want to see hrt as another toro rosso dominion

Give it a few years and everyone at the paddock will be related to Red Bull somehow. And this is not just from drinking Red Bull.

AndreaModa wrote:Go back to the mid 80s right into the early 90s and almost every team had some small influence from Marlboro in it. Red Bull is the 21st Century's Marlboro, that's all. If Hispania were to have Red Bull sponsorship on their car, it would only be small logos, just like how the small Marlboro logos used to be I'd imagine.

mario wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:Go back to the mid 80s right into the early 90s and almost every team had some small influence from Marlboro in it. Red Bull is the 21st Century's Marlboro, that's all. If Hispania were to have Red Bull sponsorship on their car, it would only be small logos, just like how the small Marlboro logos used to be I'd imagine.

That said, whilst Marlboro cigarettes had substantial involvement with the sport, it was in the role of an outside investor. The situation with Red Bull is a little different because Red Bull is not just an outside investor, but also a team owner (with commercial links, via Red Bull Technologies, to Toro Rosso, and a commercial partnership with Team Lotus for a transmission system).

OK, it must be said that it is probably no more dominant than any other outfit - like McLaren, which has an existing technical partnership with Force India and now agreeing to run a similar program with Virgin Racing - but, even so, it is a sign of the increasing influence that the team has within the sport, seeing that it has effectively forced one pay driver out of HRT for one of their choosing.

David AGS wrote:At least both HRT'S are on the grid.

They look a step behind the Virgin team though, and they did say this circuit dont suit them.

If it rains though, could be interesting!

cbbcisace wrote:http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/f1/237778.html

Hispania will move to England after buying a empty Brackley Factory + Dani Close to become a 2012 driver.

DonTirri wrote:

cbbcisace wrote:http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/f1/237778.html

Hispania will move to England after buying a empty Brackley Factory + Dani Close to become a 2012 driver.

Eh, I wouldn't trust Turun Sanomat so openly. I'll wait and see.