The Alessandro Zanardi IndyCar Thread

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 04 Jun 2014, 18:26

early in the overall season, yes, but the roadcourse schedule is half over. 6(counting doubles) rounds done, 6 rounds left. a Halfway point is a good spot to gauge the season's leaders and make predictions.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 05 Jun 2014, 02:07

Well, after watching what happenened in last lap of race 1 and the highlights of race 2, my ROTRs:

Race 1 ROTR: RHR. Indy hero to Detroit race 1 zero. Last row, strategy gamble gone wrong and an amateurish spin in the last lap.

Race 2 ROTR: Ryan Briscoe. Blatant attempt to 3 wide in the braking zone costed to much for Sato and Hawksworth.

Also, if I'm not wrong, this is the first time since 2006 that two Penske drivers are fighting for the championship.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 08 Jun 2014, 12:52

Congrats to Ed Carpenter for winning at Fort Worth's Texas Motor Speedway last night.

Here are your updated AJ Foyt Oval Track Trophy standings. 500 mile races count for double points this season. This race hasn't been one and it shows.

H. Castroneves 142
R. Hunter-Reay 137
W. Power 129
J. Montoya 118
C. Munoz 116
M. Andretti 111
E. Carpenter 104
S. Pagenaud 100
K. Busch 80
S. Bourdais 72
J. Hildebrand 66
J. Hinchcliffe 65
R. Briscoe 63
M. Aljoschin 63
S. Dixon 60
J. Hawksworth 57
J. Newgarden 57
S. Karam 57
S. Saavedra 51
T. Kanaan 50
T. Sato 50
J. Wilson 45
C. Kimball 45
C. Huertas 44
G. Rahal 42
J. Davison 34
O. Servia 33
J. Villeneuve 29
A. Tagliani 28
T. Bell 22
P. Mann 21
B. Lazier 11
M. Plowman 6

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:28

Plus Montoya was on the podium in the latest race in Fort Worth. This makes me :mrgreen:

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F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 08 Jun 2014, 21:27

Salamander wrote:
F1000X wrote:So which one of them is going to choke for the title this year?

If it has to be only one of them, hopefully Will Power. Because let's be fair - Helio really does deserve a title. Though I'm still holding out hope that Simon Pagenaud can make back the ground he's lost the last 3 races.

I think that's fair to say. I like Helio, but I would rather see Power win it, personally.

Great race last night- in spite of the penalty, Power near won the race. Brilliant call by Cindric on the pit wall.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 19:36

Indy is too girly. Can't race in rain

. They waited to start the race with the track almost dry. Bullshitee.

Also, who is the idiot who made the schedule of races? First race coincides with a World Cup match. C'mon.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Jun 2014, 19:55

Dj_bereta wrote:Indy is too girly. Can't race in rain . They waited to start the race with the track almost dry. Bullshitee.

Also, who is the idiot who made the schedule of races? First race coincides with a World Cup match. C'mon.

A) The Firestone wets are even more useless than the Pirelli wets.
B) It's in Texas, nobody cares.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:21

Well, this explain some things.

Also, its legal what Marco are doing with Sato? Holding the leader for team mate sake, its legal?

Post by **Miguel98** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:28

And there's a black flag for Andretti.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:38

Its funny, because Sato did the same thing eight years ago, with Heidfeld.

A drive through penalty isn't enough. Marco should be disqualified from the race.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:39

Miguel98 wrote:And there's a black flag for Andretti.

And a well-deserved one at that. He'd been shown blue flags for like a dozen laps at that point, there was just no excuse. Once again, Marco proves that he doesn't have the mentality to really hack it at the championship level - he gets frustrated about an ill-handling car and a puncture putting him all but a lap down, and earns himself a black flag instead of taking his losses on the chin.

Utterly disgraceful behaviour, and I agree that he should've been disqualified entirely. It was obvious what he was doing, trying to hand the lead to his teammate.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:46

Sato's bad lucky is really high in this season.

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:56

Luca Filippi :cry:

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:03

Dj_bereta wrote:Sato's bad lucky is really high in this season.

When I noticed he was leading I was badly hoping for a 2nd IndyCar career win, but no. :evil:

Since losing the lead to Hinchtown at the last corner of that race last year and his spin in the subsequent 500, Sato's fortunes have plunged to absolute zero (-273°C).

Now one of my favourite drivers Filippi has retired. IndyCar can be infinitely cruel for ex-F1/GP2 drivers.

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:09

And we've got another crash, Dixon's taken himself, Pagenaud and Kimball out.

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:22

POWER HAS CHOKED. :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:23

Damnit, I'm a Charlie Kimball fan. Defo Dixon's fault, just as it was Mikhail Aleshin's fault earlier. If I say Bourdais for the win, trust me, he won't be on the lead lap by the end (possibly even DNF)...

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:27

Oh god, if Graham Rahal wins this race now...

EDIT: AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! What a dolt. That heavens for that

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:32

Just flicked over to see Saavedra 4th :shock:

W12 · Post by **W12** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:33

HUERTAS FOR THE WIN!

The channel that shows IndyCars in my country decided to show wrestling instead so I have to use the epic fail that is the live timing :evil:

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:36

Dale Coyne will repeat what Pacwest did in Belle Isle 97.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:37

TK's gonna crash with the way he's sliding about

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:38

W12 wrote:HUERTAS FOR THE WIN!

I 2nd this! I sincerely hope he has enough fuel and talent to get to the end though!

EDIT: AND CARLOS IS P1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better still, he have a caution! That seals a first (even if flukey) win for Huertas and a Colombian 1-2!

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:43

No, anyone but Rahal. ANYONE.

EDIT: Huertas has won this surely. :shock:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:45

East Londoner wrote:No, anyone but Rahal. ANYONE.

Thank Saavedra. He's been taken out by Briscoe. I would have loved the egg on face moment though

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:47

Oh god, Huertas is in the way of win the race!!!

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:48

Oh dear Rahal

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:48

RAHAL YOU bathplug James Hunt

HUERTAS WINS! :mrgreen:

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:49

Well Salamander, you are expecting Rahal doing this, right?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:50

Double delight for Colombia. Their drivers have come 1-2 in the race in Houston and they are leading their World Cup match!

But Huertas win = :mrgreen:

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:52

good_Ralf wrote:Double delight for Colombia. Their drivers have come 1-2 in the race in Houston and they are leading their World Cup match!

1-3!! All Colombia podium. Rahal got a 30 seconds time penalty.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:56

Dj_bereta wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Double delight for Colombia. Their drivers have come 1-2 in the race in Houston and they are leading their World Cup match!

1-3!! All Colombia podium. Rahal got a 30 seconds time penalty.

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Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Jun 2014, 21:57

Dj_bereta wrote:Well Salamander, you are expecting Rahal doing this, right?

Yep.

What a bathplugging dumbass. It's just a shame AJ Foyt doesn't own TK's car, else he'd give Rahal the ass-kicking he deserves.

But hey, Huertas winning for Dale Coyne instead of JPM and Penske? I'll take that result!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 28 Jun 2014, 22:16

Of all the Colombian drivers, Huertas gets the win????? WTF

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Jun 2014, 22:25

Aerospeed wrote:Of all the Colombian drivers, Huertas gets the win????? WTF

What, you were anticipating a Saavedra win first?

Huertas stayed out when Hinch, Helio, Bourdais et al pitted, along with Wilson. And somehow he stretched it to the end. Amazing stuff.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 29 Jun 2014, 22:44

While I watch the last 15 laps of race 2 in Houston:

what a plonker Castroneves is for blaming Bourdais - YOU PULLED OVER ON HIM!!!

Andretti is also a plonker for destroying Wilson's race.

While, touch wood, Kimball is having a good race, considering his qualifying position. Curse of death, right? 10 laps to go...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 30 Jun 2014, 12:19

I'm very happy with the top-10 of the 2nd race at Houston. Particularly Bourdais (I was there when he won his first Champ Car race) and Kimball.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 30 Jun 2014, 16:12

I only watched the last laps of second race. I really liked the battle for 4th place. Hawksworth did an amazing job holding Montoya and the others with a damaged front wing.

In the other side, what Indycar stewards are doing!?

http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/06/6-2 ... infraction

Ridiculous penalty! Marco deserved a lot more than this soft penalty. Also, he collided with Wilson in the second race and IMO, it was his fault for the crash.

Race 1 ROTR: Marco Andretti: No need to explain.

Race 2 ROTR: Helio Castroneves. No wonder he is the driver with most GP starts without a title in Indycar.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 30 Jun 2014, 20:53

Dj_bereta wrote:Race 1 ROTR: Marco Andretti: No need to explain.

Race 2 ROTR: Helio Castroneves. No wonder he is the driver with most GP starts without a title in Indycar.

Agreed, with Helio being Reject of the Weekend!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Jun 2014, 21:28

dr-baker wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Race 1 ROTR: Marco Andretti: No need to explain.

Race 2 ROTR: Helio Castroneves. No wonder he is the driver with most GP starts without a title in Indycar.

Agreed, with Helio being Reject of the Weekend!

Are you joking? Helio's nonsense was nothing compared to the crap Marco pulled this weekend. Not only his antics in race one, but he collided with another driver in race 2.

For me though, Graham Rahal takes reject of the weekend - stalled in race 1, went wide on the first chicane on the restart leading to the final proper stint of racing, went full retard into the back of TK on the final restart, then in race 2 he retired early with a gearbox failure.