The 2012 IndyCar Series thread

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 19 Jan 2012, 23:09

Phoenix wrote:Why so if this thread can do the job? This way we don't clutter the forum up too much.

ehem....... *biiiiggg breath in*

"Whoever started this one could change the title in march"

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 20 Jan 2012, 10:21

Phoenix wrote:Why so if this thread can do the job? This way we don't clutter the forum up too much.

All right. I just mentioned it because of the tragic events surrounding the 2011 season...

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 20 Jan 2012, 16:23

DanielPT wrote:So, now we should consider all that have been posted before (including the 2011 season) as a build up for the 2012 one? I think it would have been preferable to create a new thread. But that's just me.

I agree, but I'm semi-retired from this board. So it's your decision, guys and gals.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 22 Jan 2012, 04:44

Alon Day is the first Israeli in Indy Lighrs, but reading his website shows not only arrogance, but ignorance -- he does not know about Chanoch Nissany's efforts! :evil:

http://www.alonday.com

Read driver profile for Engrish.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 22 Jan 2012, 06:17

he does not know about Chanoch Nissany's efforts!

nether does IndyCar.com
http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-izo ... s-history/

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Jan 2012, 13:53

Cynon wrote:http://www.alonday.com

Read driver profile for Engrish.

From the same moment Alon began to practice and to compete in competitions and different championships in Israel and swiped more then 60 trophies and titles in the country.

He didn't earn them? He stole them? How shocking!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Jan 2012, 15:27

nome66 wrote:nether does IndyCar.com
http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-izo ... s-history/

Well, they say that Day is the first Isrealian to drive in America, which is true since Nissanymania never swept across the Atlantic. Now, Day's website writer is just arrogant.

Post by **Londoner** » 23 Jan 2012, 11:33

amily wrote:Hie.. Thanks for the information...

HOW did you manage to misspell a word as simple as 'hi', you damned spambot! :lol:

Spambots slightly interested in IndyCar, whatever next...

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 23 Jan 2012, 12:06

Alon Day and Armaan Ebrahim a close 1st and 2nd for the Indy Lights Title! while the rest are embarrassingly behind.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 24 Jan 2012, 22:37

does anyone have any idea of what the new street circuit in Qingdao, China will look like?

jpm · Post by **jpm** » 25 Jan 2012, 10:27

"Alon continued and practice on car of Formula Renault in the tracks in Hungary and even competed in several races national and raked a high places and goblets."

Excellent... In all seriousness, Tristan Vautier or Oli Webb should win the Lights title, unless Stefan Wilson stays on, in which case it could be close. Vautier is SERIOUSLY good - he'll be in the big cars next year without a doubt.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 25 Jan 2012, 14:24

I'm so subscribing to IndyCars YT channel. I hope they will post full ICL races like they did in 2010 so I can watch Day's and Ebrahim's exploits

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 26 Jan 2012, 02:12

Barrichello to test for KV Racing

Discuss.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 26 Jan 2012, 02:15

wait, How old was Fittipaldi when he first started racing for CART?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 26 Jan 2012, 02:38

Hmm, lets see, I believe he started in CART around 1984, Fittipaldi's 65 now, the difference between 2012 and 1984 is 28, 65-28 equals 37.

That's just my calculations.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 26 Jan 2012, 03:12

JeremyMcClean wrote:Hmm, lets see, I believe he started in CART around 1984, Fittipaldi's 65 now, the difference between 2012 and 1984 is 28, 65-28 equals 37.

That's just my calculations.

And he retired in 1996 after that smash at Michigan if my memory is correct so he was still racing competitively even when approaching 50.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 26 Jan 2012, 08:10

Wizzie wrote:he retired in 1996 after that smash at Michigan if my memory is correct so he was still racing competitively even when approaching 50.

Yeah, but it was only in Indycars :lol:

Hey, what about Mario Andretti? Wasnt he 55 in 1994 when he retired? And Montoya? Wasnt he nearly 115 Kg when he moved on?

Im really hoping Rubens gets an Indycar drive. And not from any silly snobby attitude of him being a guaranteed winner because hes an F1 winner, just because I think he'll be great in it! Reading some more it appears hes already snubbed racing on the ovals but will possibly race on the road and street circuits.

Verde · Post by **Verde** » 26 Jan 2012, 12:38

How many years old were A J Foyt and Al Unser Senior when both attempted to start their last Indy 500?

A J was around 55, wasn't? And Unser Sr, if my memory doesn't betray me, won his last Indy 500 in 1987 when he was turning 50.

I hope Barrichello makes at least some appearances in the road circuits. I bought a ticket to watch the São Paulo round and that would be awesome to have an opportunity to at least try to chat with him. Would try to ask some things about his Il Barone Rampante days, heh.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 26 Jan 2012, 17:39

A.J. Foyt was 57 I think when he ran his last Indy, and if memory serves me right it was a race where experience counted more than anything else and he brought the car home while the rest of the field was busy selfdestructing!

Foyt was entered for the Indy 500 in 1993, but he retired before qualifying after he realized that he needed to be a better team owner after Robby Gordon hit the wall in qualifying.

Big Al was also in his 50s when he retired.

CoopsII wrote:
Wizzie wrote:he retired in 1996 after that smash at Michigan if my memory is correct so he was still racing competitively even when approaching 50.

Yeah, but it was only in Indycars

Hey, what about Mario Andretti? Wasnt he 55 in 1994 when he retired?

Mario was just starting to become uncompetitive in 1994, but I wonder how much of that was him being distracted by his whole retirement tour and how much of that was wanting to get away from Nigel Mansell. Despite losing his superiority in the late 80s, he was still competitive on a regular basis.

Emmo seriously lost his competitive edge in 1995, and his 1996 season was something of a disaster as well. I don't think he would have stuck around after 1997 at the longest. The competition in CART was always pretty stiff (until, well, 2003), and even if I really didn't like Emmo that much, he was one of the best drivers I've ever seen.

Barrichello in IndyCar would be fun, especially if he actually goes and runs the ovals. He certainly would give Sebastien Bourdais a run for his money in the Most Amusing Whiner category.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 26 Jan 2012, 17:57

Verde wrote:I hope Barrichello makes at least some appearances in the road circuits. I bought a ticket to watch the São Paulo round and that would be awesome to have an opportunity to at least try to chat with him.

Rubens in an Indycar at Sao Paulo? After so many appalling Brazillian GPs for the man, surely some fate or destiny will come into play and put him on top of the podium. I can see it now.......

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 26 Jan 2012, 19:51

oorrr Indy, like Jean Alesi is doing
Barrichello's schedule should be
Sao Palo,
Indy,
aaannnddd Baltimore.heh, i've always wanted to meet him

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 27 Jan 2012, 23:15

HVM's Show Car

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 27 Jan 2012, 23:35

If the Dallara breaks down, Race that chassis!!!

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 28 Jan 2012, 03:09

nome66 wrote:Race that chassis!!!

Fixed

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 Jan 2012, 11:55

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:
nome66 wrote:Race that chassis!!!

Fixed

Yes please! And with a couple of races in Europe - Monza, Lausitz, Brands/Rockingham?

Post by **mario** » 28 Jan 2012, 12:58

Cynon wrote:[...]
Barrichello in IndyCar would be fun, especially if he actually goes and runs the ovals. He certainly would give Sebastien Bourdais a run for his money in the Most Amusing Whiner category.

I thought that his family were pushing him not to race on oval courses because they thought that it was too dangerous (Rubens mentioned that his wife was absolutely against the idea). He could well have a crack at a road course or two given that he seems pretty keen on open wheeled racing, and given that the prototype outfits in the WEC have been recruiting a number of former F1 drivers, maybe he could turn up there too?

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 28 Jan 2012, 16:32

if anything he should do the Indy500.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 30 Jan 2012, 12:11

And we'll see how the DW12 Dallara chasis holds up.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 31 Jan 2012, 07:13

The A.J. Foyt car.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 31 Jan 2012, 07:48

Why do I think "Poor Man's USF1" when I see that? Must be spending too much time on my GP4 2009 mod

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 Jan 2012, 07:49

It looks a bit ridiculos

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 31 Jan 2012, 07:56

Wizzie wrote:Why do I think "Poor Man's USF1" when I see that? Must be spending too much time on my GP4 2009 mod

The A.J. Foyt car has used basically the same colors for a long time now, and it looks like they actually bothered to change it up a bit. I don't think it's too bad to be honest...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 31 Jan 2012, 11:48

Cynon wrote:

The A.J. Foyt car.

Those winglets on the front wing, the long, sloping nose and the flared sidepods look completely different to any Indycar I've ever seen before. I know it's a brand new chassis, just didn't expect it to look like THAT!!

But yeah, the livery looks weird. Don't know why, but the first car I thought of when I saw that livery was the Danka sponsored Arrows from 1997, am I being weird?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 31 Jan 2012, 14:31

I don't think it looks quite so weird now that it has a livery on it - could have been anyone's, really - rather than just the black test car.

What I'd like to know is, if this chassis turns out to be the miserable failure that all the watchers here are predicting, is there any provision in the rules for it to be modified - other than those bodykits that are going to be introduced? If that barn-door rear wing is supposed to be a quick fix for the serious flaws in the chassis, could there not be a series of tests with an Official Test Driver (in much the same way as Dan Wheldon was) charged solely with working with Dallara to iron out the problems, and next year the newly-renamed Dallara DW13 can take to the track? Or, as I suspect, a DW12B, because I'll bet the superstitious masses would rise up and forbid "DW13" as a name in case it brought bad luck or other such mumbo jumbo. It seems logical that the series organisers should not bury their heads in the sand and run the chassis completely unmodified for as long as the old, bulky car of last year was... but then, as has been the case with that bloke running the show who's taken so much stick here and whose name I didn't care to remember, as has also so often been the case with F1 - motorsport and logic don't seem to go hand in hand.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 01 Feb 2012, 09:38

Go on Rubens!

http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-izo ... l-breaker/

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 01 Feb 2012, 22:19

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 02 Feb 2012, 09:46

nome66 wrote:DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

(If your wife lets you) ....

“I’d love to race at Indy,” he told JA on F1 last June, “But it’s the one thing my wife asked me not to do, because she thinks it’s dangerous. It’s the only thing she’s asked me not to do.”

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 02 Feb 2012, 10:00

madmark1974 wrote:“I’d love to race at Indy,” he told JA on F1 last June, “But it’s the one thing my wife asked me not to do, because she thinks it’s dangerous. It’s the only thing she’s asked me not to do.”

Ive been married a few year now so Id question that for a start :lol:

I did read that actually the Ovals may be back on the table, I think hes winning her round. Probably been giving her the Rubens-Love :oops:

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 03 Feb 2012, 02:37

Come oooonnnnn Mrs. Barrichello just the one oval pleeeaaasssseeeee.
.....anyways, i think that some of these cars look really good with the liveries put on them, TBH.
http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-izo ... t-gallery/

The Chip Ganassi cars, other than their flagship Target Team, look more or less like they are on the same team which is good and saves confusion a bit.
One of the best things i heard last year in Baltimore was my dad saying "Is that the Force India car you talked about?"(charlie Kimball's car) and he also thought the ABC-Foyt car was on the same team as Rahal's Service Central car.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 Feb 2012, 04:25

Wow Helio's car looks nice! At least from the side anyway!

Always enjoyed red/yellow/white liveries, the colours just seem to work so well.