Grand Prix Rejects

I think the reject drivers who suceed in other series should be acknowledged by someone.
So the first sucess will be Justin Wilson who won the indy car walkins glen indy.

Deletraz in FIA GT of course has been a PHENOMENON...

No one else matters beyond that IMO.

Olivier Beretta was very successful in sportscars wasn't he.

Marc Gene and David Brabham won Le Mans 24 Hours this year with Franck Montagny, Sebastien Bourdais and Stephane Sarrazin in second and Alan McNish 3rd and Tomas Enge 4th. Sportscars seem suited to F1 Rejectees, don't they?

Just look at Indycar/CART/IRL.

F1 rejects tend to make their home on there.

Not a reject at all, but Alain Prost has made his name in the Andros Trophy.

Been lurking for months, now finally got around to registering. Woohoo.
Anyway, Bernd Schneider surely needs to be named. He is the most successful DTM driver of all time and just last year finally retired.

kaiserfranz wrote:Been lurking for months, now finally got around to registering. Woohoo.
Anyway, Bernd Schneider surely needs to be named. He is the most successful DTM driver of all time and just last year finally retired.

On a similar note
Jo Winckelhock BTCC '93 and Gabriele Tarquini in '94

Yannick Dalmas won Le Mans 3 times of course.

watka wrote:Yannick Dalmas won Le Mans 3 times of course.

Four actually.

Who can forget Alex Zanardi?

Ricardo Zonta won the Grand-Am race in New Jersey this year

Michael Bartels, the former Lotus driver, most popularly known the wide world over as the former boyfriend of tennis great Steffi Graf, won races and podiums in DTM for Alfa during the 90s, mainly on the German airfield circuits that were still in use at the time. Recently, he has either won an FIA-GT title or came close.
He clearly seems to be doing better in cars with roofs.

Bernd Schneider of course is THE MAN in DTM, but even he suffered from bad luck and unreliability in the first 2 years after he had entered the series.

By the way, Scott Speed, who recently won ARCA, is starting from P2 in this weekend's Sprint Cup NASCAR race. It'll be interesting to find out at what position he finishes the race, because his teammate is starting from pole.

Scott Speed in NASCAR is hardly something I'd call success. He SMASHED the field last year in a NASCAR truck race at Dover, and in a few ARCA races as well. Scott Speed lost the ARCA title last season because championship rival Ricky Stenhouse Jr. punted him at the final round of the series last season. An angered Speed wasn't going to let Stenhouse win the ARCA title, so he came back on the track and punted Stenhouse into the wall taking both of them out -- handing the title to the third place driver Justin Allgaier.

Scott Speed vs. Ricky Stenhouse

However, he embarrasingly failed to qualify at the road course in Sonoma and had to buy Joe Nemechek's car in order to race! Scott Speed has pretty much DNQ'd at all the tracks that require more driver skill -- Darlington, Infineon, etcetera...

How did he do in tonight's race at Chicagoland Speedway (as a Chicagoan, I must say that track is in New Lenox, Illinois, but it is listed as being in Joliet because that's where its post box is...)?

Well... 36th -- after being involved in a crash late in the race -- but even then he was two laps down and way, way off the pace, while teammate Brian Vickers had a chance to win the race. So "Success" and "Scott Speed in NASCAR" should never come close to each other without the word "Not" in there somewhere.

I have to say well done to Scott for wrekcing Stenhouse there, that was an obvious attempt by Stenhouse to put Speed in the wall. And I'm glad neither won the championship, because I don't really like Scott Speed much either.

should be start a thread for F1 rejects that are also rejects in other series - Ralf Schumacher springs to mind

Speaking of sucess in NASCAR how about montoya blowin a win at indy

Pedro Lamy has accumulated success in various competitions since he left Minardi, including the FIA-GT2 championship, V8-Star in Germany, Nurburgring 24 Hours (old track) and other assorted successes in endurance, driving for Aston Martin and Peugeot. Besides, this week he almost won the Spa 24 hours in a Maserati, until a wheel shattered. Damn Italian cars!

CarlosFerreira wrote:Pedro Lamy has accumulated success in various competitions since he left Minardi, including the FIA-GT2 championship, V8-Star in Germany, Nurburgring 24 Hours (old track) and other assorted successes in endurance, driving for Aston Martin and Peugeot. Besides, this week he almost won the Spa 24 hours in a Maserati, until a wheel shattered. Damn Italian cars!

What about Diogo Castro Santos? I remember that he quit racing for golf. Was he successful there?

rffp wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:Pedro Lamy has accumulated success in various competitions since he left Minardi, including the FIA-GT2 championship, V8-Star in Germany, Nurburgring 24 Hours (old track) and other assorted successes in endurance, driving for Aston Martin and Peugeot. Besides, this week he almost won the Spa 24 hours in a Maserati, until a wheel shattered. Damn Italian cars!

What about Diogo Castro Santos? I remember that he quit racing for golf. Was he successful there?

Excellent question. I suppose we'll have to log on to PGATour_rejects.com/forum to find out.

Raul Boesel - quite successful in CART, now established as a DJ in Brazil!

midgrid wrote:Raul Boesel - quite successful in CART, now established as a DJ in Brazil!

Hmm, I will disagree and qualify that as an overstatement. His performance in CART was way better than what he did in F-1, although still his performances for Dick Simon Rent-A-Car were not bad, his spell at Green was disappointing.

Better luck at being a DJ!

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Alex Yoong's successes in A1GP.

Larry Perkins in V8 Supercars.

Eric van de Poele's forays into sports car racing (especially the Spa 1,000km event, how many of these has he won now?).

He doesn't have a F1 Rejects profile, but is certainly eligible for one, Gianmaria Bruni is one helluva sportscar racer now. Him and Toni Vilander are pretty much an unstoppable duo in FIA GT. Plus he was team-mate to Mika Salo when he won the GT2 class of the Le Mans 24 Hours this year too
I'd probably vote him 2nd most successful reject behind Pedro Lamy (who also doesn't have a profile??).

minrdi wrote:Eric van de Poele's forays into sports car racing (especially the Spa 1,000km event, how many of these has he won now?).

I'm not sure if Eric has won that particular race, but he's been a master of the 24 hour event. Along with Bruni, Tomas Enge has been a fine sports car driver of note.

Apologies, I meant the 24Hr - my bad!

shinji wrote:Deletraz in FIA GT of course has been a PHENOMENON...

No one else matters beyond that IMO.

I wonder if Deletraz is entered as the professional driver or the "gentleman racer" who pays for their drive. For those who are not familiar to FIA GT3, there is a medal system . Gold means the driver is pretty good but not great, so no Schumachers allowed. Silver means the driver is okay and Bronze is the typical pay driver. Each team must have either a Gold and a Bronze or two Silvers.I'm leaning towards the Bronze for Deletraz. (he is the only reason why I watch FIA GT)

MinardiFan95 wrote:

shinji wrote:Deletraz in FIA GT of course has been a PHENOMENON...

No one else matters beyond that IMO.

I wonder if Deletraz is entered as the professional driver or the "gentleman racer" who pays for their drive. For those who are not familiar to FIA GT3, there is a medal system . Gold means the driver is pretty good but not great, so no Schumachers allowed. Silver means the driver is okay and Bronze is the typical pay driver. Each team must have either a Gold and a Bronze or two Silvers.I'm leaning towards the Bronze for Deletraz. (he is the only reason why I watch FIA GT)

If I'm not mistaken he owns First Racing which he raced under for a while. He would fall somewhere in between, I assume.

MinardiFan95 wrote:

shinji wrote:Deletraz in FIA GT of course has been a PHENOMENON...

No one else matters beyond that IMO.

I wonder if Deletraz is entered as the professional driver or the "gentleman racer" who pays for their drive. For those who are not familiar to FIA GT3, there is a medal system . Gold means the driver is pretty good but not great, so no Schumachers allowed. Silver means the driver is okay and Bronze is the typical pay driver. Each team must have either a Gold and a Bronze or two Silvers.I'm leaning towards the Bronze for Deletraz. (he is the only reason why I watch FIA GT)

This explains why Allan Simonsen is always stuck with Hector Lester for a co-driver in British GT then... :/

I was reading through a 2004 V8 supercars program and happened to see Alex Yoong in the entry list for the second tier category (now known as the Fujitsu Series). Alex didnt do too well in the V8's but he was in a quite old car. And to think that I had seen a F1 reject racing at an event I had attended and didnt even know about it (until now). His short and unsuccessful stint in the V8's also qualifies him as a V8 Supercars Reject.

Jean-Louis Schlesser has had a lot of success in the Dakar rallies, including back-to-back wins (in a team he owned, managed as well as drove for!) Not bad going for a guy who was in his 50's at the time.

Pacifics only fan wrote:Jean-Louis Schlesser has had a lot of success in the Dakar rallies, including back-to-back wins (in a team he owned, managed as well as drove for!) Not bad going for a guy who was in his 50's at the time.

And don't forget they designed and built the cars as well. I think they only bought engines and transmissions outside the team.

Good point, I'd actually forgotten about that..