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Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 09:45
by CarlosFerreira
"Our Jens" has now officially got brown (not Brawn...) underwear:

Jenson Button fears that his world championship lead will be wiped out in only a few races unless his Brawn GP team gets to the bottom of why it is struggling at the moment.


Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77368

The tyre excuses are a bit past the sell-by date already. The aero update Brawn had for the Hungaroring failed to bring the team back into contention - I couldn't see any difference in the way the cars looked. And everyone should have realised by now that sponsors are hard to come by, especially if your team hasn't had any for the last couple of years; they're certainly not queuing outside the factory with a bag full of notes.

Now that half the season is gone, the team seems to be at a loss. What's going on? What is Brawn GP's real place on the grid, and what might the future hold for them?

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 09:46
by JDOD
I said this a couple of weeks ago. Midfield mediocrity beckons

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 10:36
by Pedro_Diniz
*titters*

It's 2008 all over again. The media will be all over Lewis until Valencia while poor Jenson won't get a look in. Cue Lewis on the cover of F1 Racing - something which has appeared as second nature for Jenson this season.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 11:46
by Osiris13
To Button's/Brawn's advantage it looks like race wins are going to be a squabble between the improving McLarens/Ferarris and both the Red Bull drivers. Maybe de-mod the car back to it's Turkey spec and play damage limitation to albeit an unspectacular championship win.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 11:50
by Osiris13
ps. and we're all thinking it aren't we - what if at the end of the season Button loses it by the 5 points he was robbed of for that early finish in Malaysia?

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 11:55
by CarlosFerreira
Osiris13 wrote:ps. and we're all thinking it aren't we - what if at the end of the season Button loses it by the 5 points he was robbed of for that early finish in Malaysia?


I've been saying that about Mark Webber all along - he should have been in front of Vettel, but lost out because of the half-points in Malaysia.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 12:56
by FullMetalJack
The way the Brawn is performing as of late, I could see Rosberg sneaking 4th in the WDC from Barrichello.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 13:12
by Nuppiz
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Osiris13 wrote:ps. and we're all thinking it aren't we - what if at the end of the season Button loses it by the 5 points he was robbed of for that early finish in Malaysia?


I've been saying that about Mark Webber all along - he should have been in front of Vettel, but lost out because of the half-points in Malaysia.

Much better (or worse, depends who you're cheering for) would be if Webber takes the WDC with only a half point more than Button. :)

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 14:35
by alvaro3d
Much better (or worse, depends who you're cheering for) would be if Webber takes the WDC with only a half point more than Button


Remember 1984

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 15:27
by Nuppiz
alvaro3d wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Much better (or worse, depends who you're cheering for) would be if Webber takes the WDC with only a half point more than Button :)


Remember 1984

Exactly! Would bring in some real excitement like in the seasons before Mclaren/Williams supremacy and Schumi.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 15:28
by CarlosFerreira
Nuppiz wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Osiris13 wrote:ps. and we're all thinking it aren't we - what if at the end of the season Button loses it by the 5 points he was robbed of for that early finish in Malaysia?


I've been saying that about Mark Webber all along - he should have been in front of Vettel, but lost out because of the half-points in Malaysia.

Much better (or worse, depends who you're cheering for) would be if Webber takes the WDC with only a half point more than Button. :)


I'm gonna come clean and say I think it would be much better. Just my 2 cents.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 15:31
by Cynon
If Brawn GP gets some big sponsorship soon, they will be firmly on the pace again. Do I see it happening? Not particularly. Barrichello would have to leave first and a pay driver would have to step in.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 15:35
by CarlosFerreira
Cynon wrote:... and a pay driver would have to step in.


That would get them straight in the way to rejectdom, and no mistake. Can't see any sponsors shelling out the sort of money needed to be all over the Brawns' engine cover. It's just an unappropriate moment.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 17:11
by deCrasheris
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Cynon wrote:... and a pay driver would have to step in.


That would get them straight in the way to rejectdom, and no mistake. Can't see any sponsors shelling out the sort of money needed to be all over the Brawns' engine cover. It's just an unappropriate moment.

It is but there is a reason why a lot of people including myself think Vitaly Petrov will get the second Brawn seat next year (or earlier the way Rubens has been acting) because of his sponsorship from the Russian government which would help Brawns finances. He's been good on GP2 but i don't think he's going to be a world beater in F1. I do feel that unless Brawn gets more money that Button will become a midfielder again which in turn could lead to a costly first lap crash in one of the next grand prixs for being in the midfield at the start which could cost him the championship.

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 20:49
by WeirdKerr
Ideal Sponsor for Brawn ?

F1Rejects.com!!!!

Re: Zero, to Hero, to - where?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 13:49
by jackanderton
Given the way the teams are going up and down the grid, it could well be Ferrari and McLaren stealing points from Red Bull. Meanwhile, Brawn will continue picking up the points. I'd imagine they'll win a couple more races between now and the end of the season in the right conditions.