LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 21:54
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LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
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Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 00:40
Some brilliant news, can the FIA give them 11 and 12 to make it even more special.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 00:43
Great news. Their spirit is the reason they're my favorite of the three newbie teams.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 01:01
Is there any place I can donate money to the team, because they've just earned my sponsorship.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 01:23
You should wait until everything is settled 
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 01:26
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
We should make all the teams go back to their 1980's liveries!
We should make all the teams go back to their 1980's liveries!Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 01:33
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Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 02:11
As a NASCAR fan, this is great news to me, because my favorite car when I was growing up was Rusty Wallace's black and yellow Miller Genuine Draft car, which explains why I liked the JPS Lotus when I first saw it.
So, hurrah! Decent liveries are back!
Personally I prefer Renault's current Killer Bee livery over their 1980s one. I didn't like the Canon Williams livery, but I did like the Rothman's Williams livery. Also, can we PLEASE not bring back the Marlboro livery for McLaren just to avoid all the idiots from making more Hamilton-Senna comparisons? Let Hamilton and Senna be their own men -- out of respect to both of them.
But going back to 1980s liveries... with a team like HRT that didn't exist in the 1980s, would that mean a transparent livery? O_o
So, hurrah! Decent liveries are back!
tristan1117 wrote:YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I prefer Renault's current Killer Bee livery over their 1980s one. I didn't like the Canon Williams livery, but I did like the Rothman's Williams livery. Also, can we PLEASE not bring back the Marlboro livery for McLaren just to avoid all the idiots from making more Hamilton-Senna comparisons? Let Hamilton and Senna be their own men -- out of respect to both of them.
But going back to 1980s liveries... with a team like HRT that didn't exist in the 1980s, would that mean a transparent livery? O_o
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 10:19
Cynon wrote:Also, can we PLEASE not bring back the Marlboro livery for McLaren just to avoid all the idiots from making more Hamilton-Senna comparisons? Let Hamilton and Senna be their own men -- out of respect to both of them.
Hey, Cynon, surely you realise that only Italian teams are allowed to have cigarette sponsorship these days? (Ferrari F1 and Ducati MotoGP) ...
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 10:36
Cynon wrote:But going back to 1980s liveries... with a team like HRT that didn't exist in the 1980s, would that mean a transparent livery? O_o
They would borrow Eurobrun or Coloni
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 10:57
Aerond wrote:Cynon wrote:But going back to 1980s liveries... with a team like HRT that didn't exist in the 1980s, would that mean a transparent livery? O_o
They would borrow Eurobrun or Coloni
Or AGS. Or Spirit. Or Rial. Or LIFE!
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 12:27
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCREAM AND SHOUT ON A FORUM!!! TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF BEFORE MY EYES BLEED
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 12:34
As time goes on, my liking of the Mild Seven Benetton liveries increases. Particularly these where the blue color was more dominant. That's probably because I use to love that kind of blue, which means I'm quite happy with the current layout of the forum.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 12:37
I know it's not quite the 1980s (but almost!), but the thought of a 7UP Force India conjures up some rather nice images!
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 12:42
Ferrim wrote:As time goes on, my liking of the Mild Seven Benetton liveries increases. Particularly these where the blue color was more dominant. That's probably because I use to love that kind of blue, which means I'm quite happy with the current layout of the forum.
Blue for blue, i like to remember Gugelmin´s March.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 13:49
Great news - on the back of this, here are the liveries I would like to see...
McLaren - orange, like Bruce's cars originally were, with silver trim.
Mercedes - perfect as it is now, or maybe without the Petronas sea-green.
Red Bull - OK as it is, but with more white in a nod to Stewart from whom they derived.
Ferrari - current livery with less white bits.
Williams - Blue and white with red and gold trim a la Rothmans (ie. 1995-96).
Renault - I like their current livery, reminds me of the original 1977 car.
Force India - I would say a return to Jordan yellow, but that would clash with Renault. Their current livery is OK but extend the orange sides a bit, just so it resembles the Coloni-Subaru.
Toro Rosso - rename them Minardi and paint them black, yellow and white!
Lotus - black and gold.
Virgin - either keep the current one or paint them black and purple in the style of Simtek.
Sauber - black or very dark blue with white wings.
HRT - 1995 Pacific livery.
McLaren - orange, like Bruce's cars originally were, with silver trim.
Mercedes - perfect as it is now, or maybe without the Petronas sea-green.
Red Bull - OK as it is, but with more white in a nod to Stewart from whom they derived.
Ferrari - current livery with less white bits.
Williams - Blue and white with red and gold trim a la Rothmans (ie. 1995-96).
Renault - I like their current livery, reminds me of the original 1977 car.
Force India - I would say a return to Jordan yellow, but that would clash with Renault. Their current livery is OK but extend the orange sides a bit, just so it resembles the Coloni-Subaru.
Toro Rosso - rename them Minardi and paint them black, yellow and white!
Lotus - black and gold.
Virgin - either keep the current one or paint them black and purple in the style of Simtek.
Sauber - black or very dark blue with white wings.
HRT - 1995 Pacific livery.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 14:05
madmark1974 wrote:Cynon wrote:Also, can we PLEASE not bring back the Marlboro livery for McLaren just to avoid all the idiots from making more Hamilton-Senna comparisons? Let Hamilton and Senna be their own men -- out of respect to both of them.
Hey, Cynon, surely you realise that only Italian teams are allowed to have cigarette sponsorship these days? (Ferrari F1 and Ducati MotoGP) ...
Or apparently Lotus too, with the Black & Gold, John Player Special livery, when the cars were officially known as JPS Ford (or Cosworth). That & the Gold Leaf Team Lotus is when a car looked the most like a mobile fag packet.
It is a classic livery though. Chapman, with an eye to the main chance,as ever, took a leaf from the Indy 500 racers where cars could be named the X,Y or Z special after some banal household product or whatever.
The green & yellow particularly with the yellow wheels just says Lotus.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 14:29
JohnMLTX wrote:LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING LIKE THIS!? IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT OR EXCITING, IS IT!?
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 14:51
Captain Hammer wrote:JohnMLTX wrote:LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING LIKE THIS!? IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT OR EXCITING, IS IT!?
it has better effect to just make your text size bigger...
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 15:29
gnrpoison wrote:Some brilliant news, can the FIA give them 11 and 12 to make it even more special.
And bring back tobacco advertising, just so they can have JPS on their cars.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 15:47
eagleash wrote:madmark1974 wrote:Cynon wrote:Also, can we PLEASE not bring back the Marlboro livery for McLaren just to avoid all the idiots from making more Hamilton-Senna comparisons? Let Hamilton and Senna be their own men -- out of respect to both of them.
Hey, Cynon, surely you realise that only Italian teams are allowed to have cigarette sponsorship these days? (Ferrari F1 and Ducati MotoGP) ...
Or apparently Lotus too, with the Black & Gold, John Player Special livery, when the cars were officially known as JPS Ford (or Cosworth). That & the Gold Leaf Team Lotus is when a car looked the most like a mobile fag packet.
It is a classic livery though. Chapman, with an eye to the main chance,as ever, took a leaf from the Indy 500 racers where cars could be named the X,Y or Z special after some banal household product or whatever.
The green & yellow particularly with the yellow wheels just says Lotus.
That's interesting and must be where Murray Walker got his ideas from when he's commentating on late 70s/early 80s races when he calls the McLaren the Marlboro and obviously the Lotus the JPS. I always thought it was just a trend at the time...
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 16:51
eagleash wrote:The green & yellow particularly with the yellow wheels just says Lotus.
Not only does it say Lotus, it says John Deere like no other.
In all seriousness though, the Black+Gold would look awesome.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 16:58
*facepalm*
Bunch of noobs! -__-
When Tony Fernandes was asked a while ago if the cars would be green and yellow next year, he said something like "That's about the only thing that's certain". And now they go and change it!
History lesson: The original Team Lotus didn't change their livery to black and yellow after ONE year!
Stupid fickety-fiddly-argh... Do you not realize what this means?! Unless someone at Force India or Hispania or whatever pulls something out of a high hat, there will be no green cars anymore! And I was just so happy to have them back! Meanwhile, I can't see Virgin change their livery, so there will be no less than four black cars, or maybe six, if Hispania decides to jump on the bandwagon...
Bunch of noobs! -__-
When Tony Fernandes was asked a while ago if the cars would be green and yellow next year, he said something like "That's about the only thing that's certain". And now they go and change it!
History lesson: The original Team Lotus didn't change their livery to black and yellow after ONE year!
Stupid fickety-fiddly-argh... Do you not realize what this means?! Unless someone at Force India or Hispania or whatever pulls something out of a high hat, there will be no green cars anymore! And I was just so happy to have them back! Meanwhile, I can't see Virgin change their livery, so there will be no less than four black cars, or maybe six, if Hispania decides to jump on the bandwagon...
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 12 Nov 2010, 17:37
This wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:JohnMLTX wrote:LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING LIKE THIS!? IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT OR EXCITING, IS IT!?
it has better effect to just make your text size bigger...
everybody knows capslock is cruise control for cool on the internet.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 18:42
Despite the fight for the Lotus name heading into the 2011 season. It WILL be refreshing to see those colors.. but in all seriousness, now it will be Renault-Lotus... two teams who have struggled in recent years. So all this off season publicity will make up for all of the NON publicity it will receive this coming season when the team once again fails to match the pace of the leaders.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 18:55
Great news!!! Now only 10 teams left to change their liveries to black and gold for us to have a full grid of black and gold cars! 
Erm... Wait, are you talking about Lotus Renault or Lotus Renault? 
*So confused...
Erm... Wait, are you talking about Lotus Renault or Lotus Renault? *So confused...Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 07 Jan 2011, 19:10
DanielPT wrote:Great news!!! Now only 10 teams left to change their liveries to black and gold for us to have a full grid of black and gold cars!
Renault will have a black and gold scheme for this season, due to their main shareholder and sponsor being Lotus Cars, also known as Group Lotus.
Team Lotus, based in Norfolk, will despite originally planning to run in black and gold, be running in the same green and gold from 2010, in order to distinguish the two teams apart.
Anyone also notice how Autosport have reverted back to calling the team 'Renault' rather than proclaiming them to be the real Lotus like they were earlier in December with that ridiculous front cover headline? I think they might have seen the light...
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 05:51
AndreaModa wrote:DanielPT wrote:Great news!!! Now only 10 teams left to change their liveries to black and gold for us to have a full grid of black and gold cars!
Renault will have a black and gold scheme for this season, due to their main shareholder and sponsor being Lotus Cars, also known as Group Lotus.
Team Lotus, based in Norfolk, will despite originally planning to run in black and gold, be running in the same green and gold from 2010, in order to distinguish the two teams apart.
Anyone also notice how Autosport have reverted back to calling the team 'Renault' rather than proclaiming them to be the real Lotus like they were earlier in December with that ridiculous front cover headline? I think they might have seen the light...
Or, more accurately, they stopped seeing the money.
Re: LOTUS IN BLACK AND GOLD FROM NEXT YEAR ON!!
Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 02:49
Great news! The Dacia Sand---oh, wait.