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#2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 14:06
by noisebox
Got to be Luca!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 14:10
by Warren Hughes
I can't see it being anyone except Tonio Liuzzi to be honest. Here's a bet for you: Tonio Liuzzi and Adrian Sutil to both escape rejectdom before the end of the season. What odds on that?
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 14:12
by Nin13
It will be Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India's test driver. Last chance for him to prove that he has something in him!!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 14:22
by JDOD
I've always thought Liuzzi deserved another go. He wasn't really given a fair crack by STR
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 15:16
by Yannick
It can only be Tonio Liuzzi. I can only hope that he knows the car better than Badoer knew the Ferrari before Valencia.
But anyway, this driver change will make things exciting at Monza because the Force 1ndia that Liuzzi will be getting is in fact a very competitive car. Here is hoping that he and Sutil will both be scoring at Monza.
Hopefully the Ferraris stay out of their way. (But if you count the hiring of Fisi, they already have not, and the race hasn't even started yet).
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 15:40
by Paul Hayes
I would be stunned if it weren't Liuzzi in the car.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 15:45
by DemocalypseNow
Tonio sucks IMO. Reason he won F3000 title was because the rest of the field was completely shite.
I see Sutil on the podium at Monza, and Liuzzi not even finishing.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 15:59
by rffp
Liuzzi should be the guy obviously, but it would be nice to see Karthikeyan oone again in the grid.
Or even award some profiled reject a chance like Badoer, Sarrazin, Mazzacane, etc.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 16:08
by fjackdaw
Probably Liuzzi, though a Badoer swap wouldn't fully startle me. He has more recent race experience - albeit at being crap - and he knows Monza well. But I'd say it's 95% probably it'll be Tonio. He deserves another shot. He and Klein were ditched too early.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 21:12
by watka
fjackdaw wrote:Probably Liuzzi, though a Badoer swap wouldn't fully startle me. He has more recent race experience - albeit at being crap - and he knows Monza well. But I'd say it's 95% probably it'll be Tonio. He deserves another shot. He and Klein were ditched too early.
Couldn't agree more. If they were at a team like say Williams at the time they were active, both Liuzzi and Klien would have been in or around the points often.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 03 Sep 2009, 23:53
by Jack O Malley
If it won't be Liuzzi the whole universe will turn into a giant pancake. I would love to see Luca btw!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 06:31
by MaxZero
Considering Liutzzi claimed he had been promised a race seat at Force India next year, it goes without saying that they'll put him in the car now
I never thought he was too bad a driver, when STR got rid of Scott Speed and he had some real team mate competition, he drove well. A Sutil/Liutzzi pairing sounds very promising
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 10:25
by Phoenix
I'd like to see Sato making a comeback. Nakajima is just too boring
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Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 11:08
by Tealy
A Sato comeback would be awesome!
Liuzzi deserves this role, there are plenty of drivers with the same (or even less) ability level as him who have done well because of being at the right team at the right time. In my opinion Force India look like a team to be at for Monza at least so this is his opertunity. Let's hope he can take the chance unlike poor Luca.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 11:21
by Captain Hammer
It'll probably be Liuzzi, but I've heard that GP2's Vitaly Petrov has waved a stack of money under Vijay Mallya's nose to drive from Singapore. To be honest, I'd take the untried Petrov over the underperforming Liuzzi any day of the week. Force India are obviously very strong, so if Petrov can impress, he's going to amke a serious case to be drafted into a team for 2010. He's already quick in GP2, comes with plenty of backing and is the key to Russia and Eastern Europe as a market. He knows Campos, having worked with the team before, so getting race experience will be a huge boost for him.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 11:58
by noisebox
Captain Hammer wrote:To be honest, I'd take the untried Petrov over the underperforming Liuzzi any day of the week.
Agreed. I guess it's kind of the raison d'etre of this site, but there does seem to be a lot of people around here who place loads of blind faith in drivers with a pretty poor record, such as Liuzzi. Other examples include the constant 'bigging up' of guys like Pedro DLR, Marc Gene and Alex Wurz. None of these have really cut it in the past, so get some new blood in!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 12:33
by hclw
noisebox wrote:Agreed. I guess it's kind of the raison d'etre of this site, but there does seem to be a lot of people around here who place loads of blind faith in drivers with a pretty poor record, such as Liuzzi. Other examples include the constant 'bigging up' of guys like Pedro DLR, Marc Gene and Alex Wurz. None of these have really cut it in the past, so get some new blood in!
I agree, we need new exciting rejects to replace all these boring old rejects
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 12:41
by Paul Hayes
Although it has to be said that none of DLR, Gene or Wurz count as rejects by this website's standards.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 19:18
by DemocalypseNow
Captain Hammer wrote:I'd take the untried Petrov over the underperforming Liuzzi any day of the week.
Give this man a beer!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 19:31
by crazydude1992
Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certaint country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 20:05
by Salamander
crazydude1992 wrote:Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certaint country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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I'd say Lithuania's more in East Europe than Central, but nitpicks aside, I assume you're talking about Kazim Vasiliauskas? What about him?
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 22:38
by hclw
crazydude1992 wrote:Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certain country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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He's from Lermany? I've always wanted to go there
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 10:45
by Captain Hammer
crazydude1992 wrote:Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certaint country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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Um, Lithuania is on the Baltic Sea, it shares a border with Russian. It's far closer to Scandinavia than th middle of Europe. Are you sure you're not thinking of Lichtenstein?
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 11:00
by DemocalypseNow
People live in Liechtenstein? I thought it was just one large business park!
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 11:08
by crazydude1992
Captain Hammer wrote:crazydude1992 wrote:Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certaint country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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Um, Lithuania is on the Baltic Sea, it shares a border with Russian. It's far closer to Scandinavia than th middle of Europe. Are you sure you're not thinking of Lichtenstein?
Well, one of our country's landmarks is the so-called geographical center of Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic ... #Lithuania
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 11:37
by Salamander
crazydude1992 wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:crazydude1992 wrote:Well, theres this guy in F2, named Kazim, from a certaint country in the very middle of Europe that begins with L...
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Um, Lithuania is on the Baltic Sea, it shares a border with Russian. It's far closer to Scandinavia than th middle of Europe. Are you sure you're not thinking of Lichtenstein?
Well, one of our country's landmarks is the so-called geographical center of Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic ... #Lithuania
Hmmm, never knew that. I suppose the confusion comes from that fact that Lithuania isn't in Central Europe, which is where you'd assume such a place to be.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 11:44
by Nuppiz
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Hmmm, never knew that. I suppose the confusion comes from that fact that Lithuania isn't in Central Europe, which is where you'd assume such a place to be.
Yeah, this confusion is caused by the cultural meaning of Central Europe, not the geographical one.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 12:48
by shinji
What about this Lithuanian guy in F2 then?
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 14:04
by Captain Hammer
shinji wrote:What about this Lithuanian guy in F2 then?
He's not ready yet. We don't really know how F2 stacks up in comparison to GP2; I think GP2 is muh faster. Petrov will get a drive before Vasiliauskas - the Lithuanian guy; I challenge you to accurately spell his name while drunk - and F2 stablemate Mikhail Aleshin probably will as well. And there's a few other drivers in there who are not from Eastern Europe - Wickens, Jousse, but not Soucek after that Piquet-esque stunt he pulled with Coloni in Spa - who will also be in contention. But I don't think Force India would be seriously looking at any of them, anyway.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 16:36
by kaiserfranz
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/formel1/09 ... india.htmlThankfully, it's not going to be Ralf Schumacher.
I have to ask though, since when was he in the running?
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 17:18
by watka
kaiserfranz wrote:http://www.spox.com/de/sport/formel1/0909/Artikel/ralf-schumacher-kein-comeback.bei-force-india.html
Thankfully, it's not going to be Ralf Schumacher.
I have to ask though, since when was he in the running?
He did test drive for Force India when they were originally deciding between Ralf, Fisi, Klien, and Liuzzi.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 09:38
by TomWazzleshaw
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78401And that's that folks.
Sutil/Liuzzi combo for Monza
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 09:56
by Yannick
It's good to see that Tonio Liuzzi will be back in a competitive car.
Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 12:54
by Henrique
He deserves it
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Re: #2 Force India at Monza!
Posted: 08 Sep 2009, 01:31
by Alianora La Canta
This is a good, sensible choice from Force India. Good luck to Tonio and Force India
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