Formula Ford: A Joke

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 04 Aug 2013, 15:57

Formula Ford has become nothing but an utter joke this season. The Front and Rear wings have made it lose some of it's uniqueness and worst of all the season has become a CAMMISHWINLOL fest. At least Harry Woodhead has been beaten this season but the rest of the field have not even remotely look like challenging Cammish who's dominance is even putting Vettel to shame. At least Vettel is beatable

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:04

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Formula Ford has become nothing but an utter joke this season. The Front and Rear wings have made it lose some of it's uniqueness and worst of all the season has become a CAMMISHWINLOL fest. At least Harry Woodhead has been beaten this season but the rest of the field have not even remotely look like challenging Cammish who's dominance is even putting Vettel to shame. At least Vettel is beatable

I'm guessing you're watching the Snetterton BTCC round on ITV4 too then?

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:05

dr-baker wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Formula Ford has become nothing but an utter joke this season. The Front and Rear wings have made it lose some of it's uniqueness and worst of all the season has become a CAMMISHWINLOL fest. At least Harry Woodhead has been beaten this season but the rest of the field have not even remotely look like challenging Cammish who's dominance is even putting Vettel to shame. At least Vettel is beatable

I'm guessing you're watching the Snetterton BTCC round on ITV4 too then?

Yeah Cammish won that last race by 12 seconds lapping a second faster than anyone else. Sums it up for me

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:08

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Formula Ford has become nothing but an utter joke this season. The Front and Rear wings have made it lose some of it's uniqueness and worst of all the season has become a CAMMISHWINLOL fest. At least Harry Woodhead has been beaten this season but the rest of the field have not even remotely look like challenging Cammish who's dominance is even putting Vettel to shame. At least Vettel is beatable

I'm guessing you're watching the Snetterton BTCC round on ITV4 too then?

Yeah Cammish won that last race by 12 seconds lapping a second faster than anyone else. Sums it up for me

Bit of desperation at the end of that race from a few of the other drivers, and such a small field...

Final BTCC race about to start!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 04 Aug 2013, 17:11

So it's Formula Ford's fault that Dan Cammish is so dominant?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:10

Could it be that Cammish is just an excellent talent?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:15

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Could it be that Cammish is just an excellent talent?

Agreed. He's another driver who I know nothing about but looking at the stats he has been impressive. He could be another Senna or Magnussen.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:41

Vitaly Petrov won every singe race in the Lada Cup in 2002 scoring the maximum of 500 points. What if he stayed with Lotus in 2012?

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:57

Here in Holland Formula Ford actually didnt the drive the first 2 races because of a lack of interest of drivers.
Started to happen back in 2010 when on the grid where a stunning 5 FF !!!
And after the warming up there where 3 left......

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Aug 2013, 20:11

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Vitaly Petrov won every singe race in the Lada Cup in 2002 scoring the maximum of 500 points. What if he stayed with Lotus in 2012?

You can't weasel out of this by changing the subject...

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 04 Aug 2013, 21:06

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Could it be that Cammish is just an excellent talent?

He's a good driver, but he does have significantly more experience at this level than the rest of the field, except Jayde Kruger, who is nevertheless having to learn all the British circuits and joined the championship late.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 04 Aug 2013, 21:45

Well I missed the ff race at snetterton today because I was helping my dad cut up bits of plant
i have no idea what said plans was

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 04 Aug 2013, 22:19

Dan Cammish did his usual thing: Pole, fastest lap and won the 20 minute race by around 15 seconds. He's now broken all records in FF and in an interview said he's now concentrating very hard to not make a mistake for the rest of the year. Good luck to him.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 05 Aug 2013, 03:46

I think Formula Ford is really struggling in its first year with wings, so to speak. Also, the fact that a 24-year-old-driver with a lot of prior experience in higher categories is racing for the best team in a Formula Four-level series has got to count for something.

Anyway, Fords are no longer considered to be on the main motorsport career ladder. There are much better F4 series at the moment (ADAC Formel Masters, French F4, BRDC F4, Formula Renault 1.6 NEC and Formula Abarth), so Cammish's future probably lies in sportscars, not single-seaters (at least not in Europe).

Or maybe I'm being too serious and this is a fixed series where Cammish has used his money to pay others to race badly, rather than being a pay driver...

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:45

I watched a bit of FF yesterday and it seemed fairly average, perhaps thats why the commentators seemed so insecure as the part I watched was dominated by F1 name dropping and a dogged determination to prove to the viewer how 'essential' FF was to worldwide motorsport.

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 05 Aug 2013, 12:33

wsrgo wrote:I think Formula Ford is really struggling in its first year with wings, so to speak. Also, the fact that a 24-year-old-driver with a lot of prior experience in higher categories is racing for the best team in a Formula Four-level series has got to count for something.

Anyway, Fords are no longer considered to be on the main motorsport career ladder. There are much better F4 series at the moment (ADAC Formel Masters, French F4, BRDC F4, Formula Renault 1.6 NEC and Formula Abarth), so Cammish's future probably lies in sportscars, not single-seaters (at least not in Europe).

Or maybe I'm being too serious and this is a fixed series where Cammish has used his money to pay others to race badly, rather than being a pay driver...

Cammish said he was hoping to be in the BTCC next year in an interview yesterday, although I'm not sure if he meant the BTCC itself or the TOCA package in general. Anyway, he'll get a prize test in a Motorbase Ford Focus when his championship is confirmed.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 05 Aug 2013, 14:49

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Formula Ford: A Joke

Formula Joke: A Ford

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 06 Aug 2013, 03:31

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Yeah Cammish won that last race by 12 seconds lapping a second faster than anyone else. Sums it up for me

Sounds like what happens when Kyle Busch shows up in Nationwide Series racing over on the American side.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 06 Aug 2013, 04:23

midgrid wrote: Anyway, he'll get a prize test in a Motorbase Ford Focus when his championship is confirmed.

So, we've got a LOOOOONG wait...

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 08 Aug 2013, 14:17

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109217

It seems Formula Ford is trying to find ways to not make itself any more of a joke that it is now.

Problem is, there are at least three other entry level series in the UK. We already have BRDC Formula 4, Protyre Formula Renault, and Formula Renault 1.6 UK is set to start from next year..

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 08 Aug 2013, 16:42

To be honest, Formula Forsd should be a direct route to British Formula 3. There should be grid's of around 30 cars all run by different teams. That'll separate the talent from the no-hopers.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Aug 2013, 17:05

AdrianSutil wrote:To be honest, Formula Forsd should be a direct route to British Formula 3. There should be grid's of around 30 cars all run by different teams.That'll separate the talent from the no-hopers.

That's a bit of a conflict in my opinion. Do we want the Talent which makes Motorsport one of the greatest shows on the planet. Or do we want some no-hopers who might not achieve anything but provide this site with some pure reject moments which symbolize what this site was created for. If it were me running Motorsport 90% of the grid would be pure talent and 10% would be those destined for Reject Glory who we can pay tribute to

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 08 Aug 2013, 17:08

AdrianSutil wrote:To be honest, Formula Forsd should be a direct route to British Formula 3. There should be grid's of around 30 cars all run by different teams. That'll separate the talent from the no-hopers.

Problem is, even British F3 is in the doldrums at the moment, restricted to a four-round mini series, and with only Carlin, Fortec and Double R as serious participants....there is talk of improving the series in the future, but it will take time..

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 08 Aug 2013, 23:22

wsrgo wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:To be honest, Formula Forsd should be a direct route to British Formula 3. There should be grid's of around 30 cars all run by different teams. That'll separate the talent from the no-hopers.

Problem is, even British F3 is in the doldrums at the moment, restricted to a four-round mini series, and with only Carlin, Fortec and Double R as serious participants....there is talk of improving the series in the future, but it will take time..

It's because there's so many similar ladder-series taking place. Things like Formula 4 for gods sake! Dump that load of crap because it just runs parallel to the Formula Renault series.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 26 Aug 2013, 09:15

Triple for Cammish at Knockhill..he has now won all 21 races this season and is on the cusp of winning the championship.

This whole affair is making me a Maranzana fan...

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 26 Aug 2013, 11:59

wsrgo wrote:Triple for Cammish at Knockhill..he has now won all 21 races this season and is on the cusp of winning the championship.

This whole affair is making me a Maranzana fan...

Even Vettel doesn't dominate like that. Could Cammish win all 30 races?

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 26 Aug 2013, 16:02

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Triple for Cammish at Knockhill..he has now won all 21 races this season and is on the cusp of winning the championship.

This whole affair is making me a Maranzana fan...

Even Vettel doesn't dominate like that. Could Cammish win all 30 races?

Going by what has happened this season thus far, it'd be a brave man to bet against that.

But now that I've been induced with Maranzana-fanboyism, I say, "Go Nico!!! Stop Dan the Demon!!"

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 26 Aug 2013, 18:48

wsrgo wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Triple for Cammish at Knockhill..he has now won all 21 races this season and is on the cusp of winning the championship.

This whole affair is making me a Maranzana fan...

Even Vettel doesn't dominate like that. Could Cammish win all 30 races?

Going by what has happened this season thus far, it'd be a brave man to bet against that.

But now that I've been induced with Maranzana-fanboyism, I say, "Go Nico!!! Stop Dan the Demon!!"

As much as I like Maranzana, I stil think Cammish will dominate

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 26 Aug 2013, 21:31

Really boring race today. I swear, looking at my thumbs is more interesting than watching a Cammish snoozefest. What was supposed to be the two best races of the year- Brands and Thruxton have turned in snorefests. I live in hope for Rockingham and Silverstone for a change.

I just sent this to Greenpeace on Twitter @Greenpeace Why dont you come and protest at FFord would liven it up. Seriously, it has to be a really really crap race for people(EG: me and me) to forget who won the race. It's a shame that these days when a Formula Ford race is boring we know who won it.

A Briton. Harrison Scott?

No. That's unfair on him. I prefer that bloody pillock Dan Cammish.

Idiot.

I didn't even bother watching the podium because to be honest I'm so sick of this CAMMISHWINSLOL fest that I went to stare at walls. If Scott was on the podium I would watch it because I like Scott, not that muppet Cammish.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 15 Sep 2013, 10:11

IT'S OFFICIAL. DAN CAMMISH IS THE CHAMPION.

He won the first 2 races at Rockingham, and id now on a 23-race winning streak. Race 3 later today.

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 15 Sep 2013, 11:47

pasta_maldonado wrote:Really boring race today. I swear, looking at my thumbs is more interesting than watching a Cammish snoozefest. What was supposed to be the two best races of the year- Brands and Thruxton have turned in snorefests. I live in hope for Rockingham and Silverstone for a change.

I just sent this to Greenpeace on Twitter @Greenpeace Why dont you come and protest at FFord would liven it up. Seriously, it has to be a really really crap race for people(EG: me and me) to forget who won the race. It's a shame that these days when a Formula Ford race is boring we know who won it.

A Briton. Harrison Scott?

No. That's unfair on him. I prefer that bloody pillock Dan Cammish.

Idiot.

I didn't even bother watching the podium because to be honest I'm so sick of this CAMMISHWINSLOL fest that I went to stare at walls. If Scott was on the podium I would watch it because I like Scott, not that muppet Cammish.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 15 Sep 2013, 15:30

24 out of 24 for Cammish but easily his most hardest

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 15 Sep 2013, 16:17

Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Sep 2013, 16:40

midgrid wrote:Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

But in which case, that would confirm his 100% win rate from races entered, and all remaining wins will not count for as much because they won't be able to claim to have legitimately beaten him on-track this year...

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 15 Sep 2013, 19:02

midgrid wrote:Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

I would have liked to see him win all thirty races. Hopefully he gets a drive in F1 eventually.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 16 Sep 2013, 08:29

apple2009 wrote:
midgrid wrote:Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

I would have liked to see him win all thirty races. Hopefully he gets a drive in F1 eventually.

No chance, Cammish has said on TV that he wants to be in the BTCC.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 16 Sep 2013, 13:27

apple2009 wrote:
midgrid wrote:Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

I would have liked to see him win all thirty races. Hopefully he gets a drive in F1 eventually.

You're joking I hope..you're in big trouble if you aren't

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 16 Sep 2013, 21:52

wsrgo wrote:
apple2009 wrote:
midgrid wrote:Unfortunately from a statistical domination point of view, Cammish has decided to step down from the final two meetings of the year to give another driver a chance in the JTR team. I expect to see him in the BTCC next year.

I would have liked to see him win all thirty races. Hopefully he gets a drive in F1 eventually.

You're joking I hope..you're in big trouble if you aren't

I'm not joking.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:02

apple2009 wrote:
wsrgo wrote:
apple2009 wrote:I would have liked to see him win all thirty races. Hopefully he gets a drive in F1 eventually.

You're joking I hope..you're in big trouble if you aren't

I'm not joking.

Reasons why Dan Cammish will NEVER make F1
1: To old (25)
2: publicly stated during an interview that we wants to race in the BTCC next year

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:10

roblomas52 wrote:
apple2009 wrote:
wsrgo wrote:
You're joking I hope..you're in big trouble if you aren't

I'm not joking.

Reasons why Dan Cammish will NEVER make F1
1: To old (25)
2: publicly stated during an interview that we wants to race in the BTCC next year

Well I did say hopefully. I never said there's a good chance of it happening. Then again, he could be another Jan Magnussen or whoever that guy that was great in the feeder series but mediocre in F1 was.