Grand Prix Rejects

Arie Luyendyk, Jr.
AJ Foyt IV
Graham Rahal
Jeff Andretti
Marco Andretti (He's good, but I wish he was better)
Michael Andretti (In F1)
Michael Waltrip

Basically all sons of good drivers.

Felipe Massa

Bruno Senna

Casey Mears
Hiro Matsushita, Japan deserved better than Aguri Suzuki and King Hiro.

Alessandro Zanardi (in F1)

Repeated agreement with Alessandro Zanardi and Bruno Senna. Gonna add Damon Hill, as I wished he had been able to beat Schumi in 1995 and a better end to 1999.

Also worthy of a mention from me specifically: Maria Teresa de Filipis, Lella Lombardi, Divina Galica, Desire Wilson, Giovanna Amati.

Plus I wish Josh Hill had continued and made it all the way to F1 champ, like his dad and grandpa.

Danica Patrick, so I could pretend people talk her up for reasons other than she's a girl. Goes for any female driver, I guess.

Andy Neate

Rob Austin and Paul O'Neill. Not they aren't good, but they aren't good as I'd like.

Vettel, Loeb, Jimmie Johnson & Tiago Monteiro...

Jocke1 wrote:Vettel, Loeb, Jimmie Johnson & Tiago Monteiro...

Well, if we're talking about drivers that we wish were good instead of great, then add Michael Schumacher to that list...

Jack Harvey
Sebastien Bourdais
Jan Magnussen

More is to come, I hope

Bruno Senna - It wouldve been nice to see the name at the top again (even though, well, you know).
Christiano Da Matta - I thought he was going to be great and although he never lacked effort it never really came together.
Narain Karthikeyan - Because I BELIEVE!

Plus all the Indycar drivers that came and went.

And Allan McNIsh because he's actually a great driver, just not in F1.

I know Kamui Kobayashi and Juan Pablo Montoya were good, but I wish they'd been better. Alex Wurz too - shame about his nightmare 2000 stopped him from getting another full-time seat till 2007.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Danica Patrick, so I could pretend people talk her up for reasons other than she's a girl. Goes for any female driver, I guess.

Although Johanna Long hasn't done too badly given the so-so to poor equipment that the #70 is in the Nationwide Series. I doubt even Jimmie Johnson could drag that thing much better than what Johanna has been doing.

Jacques Villeneuve is a good place to start...

Also,
Antonio Pizzonia
Christian Klien
Lucas di Grassi

Esteban Gutierrez, because he took over Kaumi's seat at Sauber, which I wasn't best pleased at. Therefore, I was hoping he'd prove himself as a decent, dependable driver in the lower points regions. What he has done is prove himself a complete liability, with the worst results of any driver outside Caterham/Marussia. A real disappointment, as his one decent race (at Barcelona this year) proved that he does have some pace and talent.

Toranosuke Takagi...

I forgot, Giancarlo Fisichella

good_Ralf wrote:I forgot, Giancarlo Fisichella

He was good, up until 2005. The second he got his mitts on a decent car, it all went tits-up

takagi_for_the_win wrote:

good_Ralf wrote:I forgot, Giancarlo Fisichella

He was good, up until 2005. The second he got his mitts on a decent car, it all went tits-up

TITS!!!



Sorry, just in one of those moods at the moment.

Time to produce a thread on things that fly...

good_Ralf wrote:Time to produce a thread on things that fly...

Things that fly, eh? How about this? A flying Shoemaker!

I don't know what you've been smoking recently Baker, but whatever it is I want some

takagi_for_the_win wrote:I don't know what you've been smoking recently Baker, but whatever it is I want some

That was tiredness, pure and simple! Plus avoiding the obvious puns that had occurred to me.

dr-baker wrote:

good_Ralf wrote:Time to produce a thread on things that fly...

Things that fly, eh? How about this? A flying Shoemaker!

My planet calls me and I must leave.

Volker Weidler. And Vincenzo Sospiri.

Bruno Senna
Esteban Gutirriez
Rodney Forbes (I have met him, top bloke)

Karl Wendlinger, JJ Lehto, Pedro Lamy (who might have done better in some good machinery).

Backmarker wrote:Karl Wendlinger, JJ Lehto, Pedro Lamy (who might have done better in some good machinery).

They all suffered career-changing injuries in 1994. I think all three were good, but after their crashes, possibly with Lamy as an exception, they never drove as well again, although Lehto was in line for a second podium in Barcelona in 1994 when the car broke, also qualifying 4th on merit there.

go_Rubens wrote:Volker Weidler. And Vincenzo Sospiri.

To be fair, Sospiri has a perfect intrateam qualifying record in Formula 1.

Gigi Galli!

Karun Chandhok!

Qinghua Ma ... Kevin Korjus. Jérôme d'Ambrosio.

As mentioned, Gigi Galli. Petter Solberg, Marcus Grönholm, Markko Märtin - just that one bit better, so that they would have taken the fight to Loeb.

Zanardi.

Bruno Senna, as he genuinely seems like a nice guy. Mazzacane.

Jean Al....oh wait, no. The reason we love him is how he had his weaknesses along with epic strengths. So scratch that one.

Jarno Trulli. Rubens Barrichello. Mark Webber. Felipe Massa.

Robert 'Bobby the Boss' Doornbos!

...damn, I'm forgetting someone.

F1: Allen McNish
Schumi (post comeback)
Penske (team)

NASCAR: Montoya
Penske (team)

Indycar: Mickey Thompson (team)
Mario (at Indy itself)


But my all time favorite for this category would have to be a drag racer: K.C. "Hollywood" Spurlock.
I don't think he ever won a race, but damn what a showman. I once saw in person, K.C do a 1/4 mile burnout in a nitro funny car! He then backed up the whole 1/4 mile, staged, and immediately had the motor detonate on launch. He didn't care, he hopped out laughing. We need more guys like him.

giraurd wrote:Robert 'Bobby the Boss' Doornbos!

And the original boss, Jos the Boss. He should have won while at Benetton, not Schumacher.

Bruno Senna, I've met him once in real life and he was one of the nicest drivers I've had the chance to meet. In WEC though he has done well.

The Belgian F3000 1999 quartet of Leinders, Van Hooydonck, Saelens and 'The Goose' Goossens. Leinders was overhyped, but quite average. He found his way in GT's, though. Van Hooydonck had his days, but was a little inconsistent. Despite being one of the fastest GT-drivers, can't seem to manage a full-time ride anywhere since. Saelens was good before his crash in 2001, after that got stuck in the Porsche Supercup, and i haven't heard of him for a long time. And Goossens was actually worth of a F1 drive, however his season at Arden ruined his F1 chances, the next year he also got outperformed by his teammate Alonso. He found quite some succes in GT's though, being a works Viper driver now.