Grand Prix Rejects

I always liked Shadaza's Formula C series and I also like pi3141's F1 series. I also wanted to set right what I made horribly wrong with my first attempt at a DTM series here. So put the three things into a blender and BAM! You'll get this series. So welcome to my alternate DTM series!



Why the 2006 season? Well, I figured that this period is good for starting such a series. We had works teams, semi-works teams and privateers. While Opel left this series, we still had Audi and Mercedes. Granted, DTM became really boring from this period on real-life. But I'm sure that this series won't be boring. Whereas DTM struggled and declined, we will rise. That's where Formula C comes in: While we won't discuss things like technical regulations (yet), you can decide on other factors, like the venues the series will visit. How many races will there be on a calendar? After all, travelling costs money! You can also bring in suggestions on your own, which the teams will then discuss. As the series will progress (And I'll damnguarantee, it will!), the teams will get to decide on more complex matters. Like in real-life, I plan to bring in other manufacturers. I also plan to cooperate with other series like the SuperGT...or other series. It'll be up to you! Now, the rules:

- Works Teams have a yearly budget of 4.250.000 €, semi-works teams have a budget of 1.250.000 € and private teams have a budget of 750.000 €
- Works Teams get to sign drivers first. They can also sign more drivers than cars they actually run, thus enabling them to "park" their drivers at semi-works or private teams
- Only works teams are allowed to build and develop all new cars. From the second year on, they can sell their year-old cars to the semi-works teams, while the semi-works teams can sell their then two-year-old cars to private teams.
- Prize per cars (includes development):
2006-spec car: 500.000 €
2005-spec car: 250.000 €
2004-spec car: 125.000 €
- The works teams can distribute 100% of the development time to acceleration, cornering and reliability (e.g. 33-33-33, 50-20-30 and so on.)
- Works teams can develop their cars at three points during the season. They can do two private tests, while there will also be an official ITR test day, somewhere in the season. A maximum of 300.000 € can be invested in season development (Ideally: 100k on acceleration, 100k on cornering and 100k on reliability, but it's up to you, of course). Therefore, one shouldn't spend 300.000 € on one test.
- There will also be one private pre-season test (To test new drivers) and an official ITR pre-season test. But neither can be used for season development.
- Works teams also HAVE TO build at least four new cars. It's part of the contract between the ITR and the manufacturers
- Travelling will also be expensive. Not necessarily to the German rounds, but to rounds abroad. So the teams may have to spend up to 250.000 € for travelling (Hence the budgets of 4.25m and 1.25m).
- Points are awarded as in real-life 2006 (Analog to the pre-2010 F1 points system)
- Prize money is like this:
1. 200.000 €
2. 180.000 €
3. 160.000 €
4. 140.000 €
5. 120.000 €
6. 100.000 €
7. 80.000 €
8. 60.000 €
9. 40.000 €
10. 20.000 €
11. Everyone else that finishes a race: 10.000 €
- Race format is also like in real-life (1 race over the distance of roughly 160km)
- You can sign any driver you want, but I'll decide what's realistic and what's not. I doubt that Fernando Alonso or Kimi Raikkonen would leave F1 for DTM. I'll leave the rest to the RNG, though. So there may be some surprises coming...
- Private and Semi-Works Teams can also sign pay drivers, if they really need the money
- Note that there isn't an infinite amount of cars available. For each manufacturer, there will be four 2006-spec cars, four 2005-spec cars and four 2004-spec cars.
- Therefore, there are some cars left. I'll allow up to three private teams to enter this series. But they need to be real-life teams, connected in any form to the DTM or the manufacturers (e.g. a team from Formula Three or GT racing)

Now on to the teams:

Audi
Audi Sport Team Abt Sportsline (Works Team) (peteroli34)
Budget: 887.485 €
Cars: 2006 Audi A4 (4x)
Drivers: Mattias Ekström
Tom Kristensen
Martin Tomczyk
Timo Scheider

Audi Sport Team Phoenix (Semi-Works Team) (Hermann95)
Budget: 137.485 €
Cars: 2005 Audi A4 (2x)
Drivers: Mike Rockenfeller
Alexander Wurz

Audi Sport Team Rosberg (Semi-Works Team) (roblomas52)
Budget: 537.485 €
Cars: 2004 Audi A4 (2x)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel
Heinz-Harald Frentzen

Futurecom-TME (Private Team) (FMecha)
Budget: -87.515 €
Cars: 2004 Audi A4 (1x)
2005 Audi A4 (1x)
Drivers: Tetsuya Yamano
Nico Hülkenberg

Arden International (Private Team) (EastLondoner)
Budget: -87.515 €
Cars: 2004 Audi A4 (1x)
2005 Audi A4 (1x)
Drivers: Marcel Fässler
Gianni Morbidelli

Mercedes-Benz
HWA Team (Works Team) (Klon)
Budget: 1.007.485 €
Cars: 2006 Mercedes C-Klasse (4x)
Drivers: Bernd Schneider
Mika Häkkinen
Alexandro Margaritis
Markus Winkelhock

Persson Motorsport (Semi-Works Team) (Kevinbotz)
Budget: 253.110 €
Cars: 2005 Mercedes C-Klasse (2x)
Drivers: Jean Alesi
Adrian Sutil

Mücke Motorsport (Semi-Works Team) (Rated)
Budget: 253.110 €
Cars: 2005 Mercedes C-Klasse (2x)
Drivers: Jamie Green
Bruno Spengler

Manor Motorsport (Private Team) (pi314159)
Budget: 53.110 €
Cars: 2004 Mercedes C-Klasse (2x)
Drivers: Loic Duval
Alexandre Premat

Triple 8 Engineering (Wizzie)
Budget: -61.860 €
Cars: 2004 Mercedes C-Klasse (2x)
Drivers: Neel Jani
Craig Baird

I'll be managing Persson Motorsport, if nobody has any objections.

Best of luck to everybody.

Real drivers only? I'll take Futurecom.

I will be having HWA, yes.

Ill enter and take the audi works team

FMecha wrote:Real drivers only?

Yes. Real drivers only.

peteroli34 wrote:Ill enter and take HWA team

As you can see, Klon was faster than you. I can confirm this

I would like to manage Audi Sports Team Phoenix!

I would like to manage Audi Sport Team Rosberg.

I would like to manage Mücke Motorsport then.

Rated wrote:I would like to manage Mücke Motorsport then.

Good. While we aren't complete yet, we can already start the next stage:

The works teams need to tell me the development time they are allocating to each area of the car. I also need to know about how many cars they'll build (most likely four). The semi-works and private teams also need to tell me about how many and which cars they run. But keep in mind that the semi-works teams have a right of preemption for the 2005-spec cars.
Then I need the works teams to tell me where they want to conduct the private manufacturer's test. All teams can also claim drivers they want to test. Keep in mind though that I try to keep things realistic. So no test for Michael Schumacher or no test for Bernd Schneider in an Audi. On the other hand, I may be much less restrictive in practice.

Last but not least, you can suggest some international venues for DTM. You are pretty much free to suggest any venue you want. But international venues cost money!

We also have three private teams left. Grab 'em before they're grabbed.

I shall take the privateer Audi team then.

Arden International announce their participation in the DTM for 2006, running two ex-works Audis, preferably one of 2005 vintage and one of 2004 vintage.

EDIT: Following a comprehensive review of our plans for 2006, we will run two 2005-spec cars, rather than the three we previously announced. We look forward to a fruitful season ahead of us.

kevinbotz wrote:Persson will run three 2005-spec cars for the 2006 season.

You could theoretically do that, but you'll leave Mücke Motorsport with only one 2005-spec car to run. Not to mention that you'd only have 250.000 € for drivers left, because travelling also needs to be taken into account. I'm just sayin'...

We would like to run 2 2005-spec cars!

With the drivers we will wait until the works teams have decided on theyr drivers!

Then let's do some work duties:
- Development time is to be divded 20-45-35 on acceleration, cornering and reliability
- We will, in fact, build four cars for now.
- The private Mercedes test will be held in Oschersleben.
- The works team will test Adrian Sutil, Alexandros Margaritis, Bernd Schneider, Lucas di Grassi, Markus Winkelhock and Mika Häkkinen
- HWA "suggests" (read: demands) a race at the Goldenport Park Circuit in China and suggests races at Chayka Circuit (Ukraine), Istanbul Park (Turkey) and Padborg Park (Denmark)

Then I need the works teams to tell me where they want to conduct the private manufacturer's test. All teams can also claim drivers they want to test. Keep in mind though that I try to keep things realistic. So no test for Michael Schumacher or no test for Bernd Schneider in an Audi. On the other hand, I may be much less restrictive in practice.

Just a reminder. :p

Audi car development will be on the these parameters
Acceleration 25
Cornering 40
Reliabilty 35
We will build and run 4 2006 spec cars

The private test sessions wil be held at Hockenhiem.

We will test the Following drivers.

Martin Tomczyk
Mattias Ekström
Tom Kristensen
Timo Scheider
Marcel Fässler
Christian Abt

Mücke Motorsport will run two 2005-spec cars.

Futurecom suggests Twin Ring Motegi and Sentul as DTM venues.

Things run fine at the moment, so I'm going to set a deadline. You have time until tomorrow evening, 8pm central european time, to nominate drivers for the manufacturers tests and suggest venues for DTM.

Team Rosberg would like a brace of 2004 cars please.
We would also like to see the series race at Knockhill Park, Mosport Park, Bathurst and Cadwell Park please.

Thanks

I'd like to enter with Manor Motorsport as a Mercedes customer team. I'd like to buy two 2004-spec cars. Concerning the calendar, we're a small team, and would prefer to stick to European cricuits, as travelling costs money.

I'd like to see: Brands Hatch (the full layout), Dijon-Prenois and Spa-Francorchamps as rounds abroad.

Arden will be present at the Audi test session at Hockenheim, offering tests to the following drivers:

Alain Menu
Anthony Reid
Michael Ammermüller
Thomas Holzer

Manor would like to test the following drivers:
Alexandre Premat
Loic Duval
Paul di Resta
Kazuki Nakajima
Mike Rockenfeller

Team Rosberg would like to test…

Alvaro Parente
Tim Harvey
Matt Neal
Gordon Shedden
Nick Heidfeld
Viktor Jensen

Mücke Motorsports would like to join the Oschersleben test.
We would like to test the following drivers :

Stefan Mücke
Jamie Green
Alexander Wurz
Susie Stoddart
Bruno Spengler

East Londoner wrote:Arden will be present at the Audi test session at Hockenheim, offering tests to the following drivers:

Alain Menu

Menu respectfully declines, as he's still under contract with Chevrolet in the WTCC.

roblomas52 wrote:Team Rosberg would like to test…
Tim Harvey
Matt Neal
Gordon Shedden
Nick Heidfeld

Harvey prefers to stay a commentator for ITV, as well as racing in the British Carrera Cup. Neal and Shedden prefer to stay in BTCC, where they have just signed contracts with Team Dynamics, one of the leading BTCC teams. As for Nick Heidfeld...well, I can't just see why a BMW F1 driver would upset his employer by testing a two-year old Audi A4.

Since Mercedes and HWA are very driven on having a Chinese round, we will try to convince the Mercedes semi-works and private teams to support our move for a race at Goldenport Park Circuit by promising to cover 50 per-cent of the travel costs of each Mercedes customer team.

We will join the Audi manufacturer test and would like to offer a test to the following drivers:
Heinz Harald Frentzen
Allan McNish
Alexander Wurz
Mike Rockenfeller
Sebastian Vettel

Ferrarist wrote:

roblomas52 wrote:Nick Heidfeld

As for Nick Heidfeld...well, I can't just see why a BMW F1 driver would upset his employer by testing a two-year old Audi A4.

It would make F1 less boring

After their recent acquisition of John Briggs Motorsport in the V8 Supercars, Triple 8 Race Engineering has decided to expand further into the DTM, becoming the final Mercedes customer team.

Persson Motorsport will join Mücke Motorsports at Oschersleben with the following drivers:

Gary Paffett
Jean Alesi
Toni Vilander
Jan Magnussen
Olivier Panis

I'll buy one 2005 car and test Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong, Tomas Enge, Tetsuya Yamano and Jimmy Vasser, if privateers can test now.

FMecha wrote:I'll buy one 2005 car and test Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong, Tomas Enge, Tetsuya Yamano and Jimmy Vasser, if privateers can test now.

Sorry, but there are only 2004-spec cars available. On the other hand, there are still two of them left.

Ferrarist wrote:

FMecha wrote:I'll buy one 2005 car and test Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong, Tomas Enge, Tetsuya Yamano and Jimmy Vasser, if privateers can test now.

Sorry, but there are only 2004-spec cars available. On the other hand, there are still two of them left.

I'll buy a 2004 car then.

In addition to Reidy, Ammermuller and Holzer, Arden would also like to offer tests to Nico Hulkenberg, Gianni Morbidelli and Jeroen Bleekemolen.

Klon wrote:Since Mercedes and HWA are very driven on having a Chinese round, we will try to convince the Mercedes semi-works and private teams to support our move for a race at Goldenport Park Circuit by promising to cover 50 per-cent of the travel costs of each Mercedes customer team.

Manor Motorsport are still against travelling outside Europe. Even half of the travel costs are a significant amount of money for us. And the 2004 round in China didn't really go well. We understand that Mercedes want to promote their cars in China, but for small teams like us it is difficult to afford.

Ferrarist wrote:

FMecha wrote:I'll buy one 2005 car and test Luca Badoer, Alex Yoong, Tomas Enge, Tetsuya Yamano and Jimmy Vasser, if privateers can test now.

Sorry, there are only 2004-spec cars available. On the other hand, there are still two of them left.

I thought their was a 2005 Spec Audi and a 2004 Spec Audi left.
Team Rosberg brought 2 2004 Spec
Team Phoenix Brought 2 2005 Spec
Arden Brought 1 2005 Spec and 1 2004 Spec

or am i missing Something

Arena Motorsport would like to enter with two 2004 Spec Mercedes.

For international venues, we suggest Anderstorp and Spa-Francorchamps.

We would like to test the following drivers:
Tobias Johansson
Fredrik Ekblom
Valle Mäkelä

peteroli34 wrote:I thought their was a 2005 Spec Audi and a 2004 Spec Audi left.
Team Rosberg brought 2 2004 Spec
Team Phoenix Brought 2 2005 Spec
Arden Brought 1 2005 Spec and 1 2004 Spec

or am i missing Something

Yeah, you're right. I forget the sole remaining 2005-spec Audi.

Vepe wrote:Arena Motorsport would like to enter with two 2004 Spec Mercedes.

I'm sorry, but Wizzie was faster than you. I may put you on the waiting list, though.