Grand Prix Rejects

I'm actually curious. This site could get major traction if the Twitter account did live tweeting during races. It would be funny and could work out really well.

Thoughts?

Aguaman wrote:I'm actually curious. This site could get major traction if the Twitter account did live tweeting during races. It would be funny and could work out really well.

Thoughts?

It relies on someone actually having the time and inclination to do so. Not everybody gets the chance to watch each and every race live.

It could work out well, but...

Well, we have a pretty active chat during the GPs, so I think somebody who's there regularly could give a good, reliable account, maybe.

Biscione operates the Twitter account as far as I know, I'm not sure if Nuppiz has access to it. On top of that, I don't think either of them is on the chatroom during the races.

tommykl wrote:Biscione operates the Twitter account as far as I know, I'm not sure if Nuppiz has access to it. On top of that, I don't think either of them is on the chatroom during the races.

I know, I meant perhaps we could look at allowing a trusted forum member access to the account?

Salamander wrote:

tommykl wrote:Biscione operates the Twitter account as far as I know, I'm not sure if Nuppiz has access to it. On top of that, I don't think either of them is on the chatroom during the races.

I know, I meant perhaps we could look at allowing a trusted forum member access to the account?

I'd be up for it if I were capable of jokes

More than happy to noodle about with the twitter account, currently looking for a new job that doesn't eat my Sundays so I *should* be able to do some live tweets or whatever is necessary.

Salamander wrote:

tommykl wrote:Biscione operates the Twitter account as far as I know, I'm not sure if Nuppiz has access to it. On top of that, I don't think either of them is on the chatroom during the races.

I know, I meant perhaps we could look at allowing a trusted forum member access to the account?

>implying there is a single trustworthy member of this forum

Rob Dylan wrote:

Salamander wrote:

tommykl wrote:Biscione operates the Twitter account as far as I know, I'm not sure if Nuppiz has access to it. On top of that, I don't think either of them is on the chatroom during the races.

I know, I meant perhaps we could look at allowing a trusted forum member access to the account?

>implying there is a single trustworthy member of this forum

#TopNotchBanter

dr-baker wrote:

Aguaman wrote:I'm actually curious. This site could get major traction if the Twitter account did live tweeting during races. It would be funny and could work out really well.

Thoughts?

It relies on someone actually having the time and inclination to do so. Not everybody gets the chance to watch each and every race live.

It could work out well, but...

It's not like you have to actually tweet everything that goes on like Autosport. Just to do the fun stuff like incidents, driver radio that is shown and all that jazz.

Aguaman wrote:

dr-baker wrote:

Aguaman wrote:I'm actually curious. This site could get major traction if the Twitter account did live tweeting during races. It would be funny and could work out really well.

Thoughts?

It relies on someone actually having the time and inclination to do so. Not everybody gets the chance to watch each and every race live.

It could work out well, but...

It's not like you have to actually tweet everything that goes on like Autosport. Just to do the fun stuff like incidents, driver radio that is shown and all that jazz.

Most importantly of all though we need to be kept updated on the battle for 19th place, Marcus Ericsson's bid to finish ahead of Fernando Alonso in the championship, that sort of thing. Remember who we support

Could work, but it would always have to stay 'banter' like for everyone's amusement and popularity.

For example, there's a football team called Hyde FC who currently play in the 7th tier of English football and because they have a very jokey twitter account, they have more followers than most Championship sides.

Yeah, you definitely want a certain tone of voice and careful consideration of what to focus on.

Remember, there's tons of accounts out there already tweeting about current and past F1 goings on. Off the top of my head, there's @F1__1995, @WhenF1WasDifferent, @RetroRacingCo, @1990sF1, @monzasgorilla, etc, etc

And that's before you get into all of the self proclaimed journos regurgitating, retweeting, pontificating and just generally not doing anyone any favours. No point getting involved with all of that and trying to compete.

We want a clear focus, a reason for the account to exist and thus a reason why the average fan should be following us. When you think about live tweeting during a race, it makes up two hours of activity every two weeks. If you assume a 20 race calendar, then total live tweeting over a season is less than 0.5% of time in a year. You need to find something else to fill the other 99.5% of the time otherwise you'll effectively have a dormant account.

So maybe draw up a list of items that can be tweeted out. Off the top of my head, here's a few we could do:
- The "This Day in Reject History" posts
- ROTR and IIDOTR announcements
- Heavy content promotion (if/when any is ever published)
- Perhaps sharing of interesting forum discussions when they come up (F1 Fanatic does this occasionally).

Any more?

Adding the odd bit of backmarker trivia should really help, as far as I'm aware, we're really the only site that properly cares about such things.

AdrianSutil wrote:Could work, but it would always have to stay 'banter' like for everyone's amusement and popularity.

For example, there's a football team called Hyde FC who currently play in the 7th tier of English football and because they have a very jokey twitter account, they have more followers than most Championship sides.

Wait, hold on, back up. There's a 7th Tier? That's like Joe's Diner rec league stuff right? Not even baseball has that many leagues.

Wallio wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Could work, but it would always have to stay 'banter' like for everyone's amusement and popularity.

For example, there's a football team called Hyde FC who currently play in the 7th tier of English football and because they have a very jokey twitter account, they have more followers than most Championship sides.

Wait, hold on, back up. There's a 7th Tier? That's like Joe's Diner rec league stuff right? Not even baseball has that many leagues.

There's more than 7! There's 23!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

AndreaModa wrote:

Wallio wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Could work, but it would always have to stay 'banter' like for everyone's amusement and popularity.

For example, there's a football team called Hyde FC who currently play in the 7th tier of English football and because they have a very jokey twitter account, they have more followers than most Championship sides.

Wait, hold on, back up. There's a 7th Tier? That's like Joe's Diner rec league stuff right? Not even baseball has that many leagues.

There's more than 7! There's 23!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

I can't even begin to comprehend that. How in the hell do you guys keep track?

In terms of national coverage, you only get the top six tiers, and even then the vast majority is obviously reserved for the Premier League, with the Football League (tiers 2 to 4) next in line.

The rest are only covered regionally and locally, and even then, your local town newspaper might only cover down to say tier 12 or 13 depending on the number of clubs in the area.

The rest all just get on with it each season, playing on public playing fields, part time, little or no wages, most just for fun. It's a huge part of life for a hell of a lot of people in the country really. I think a lot of people, even in Britain, don't realise that.

AndreaModa wrote:In terms of national coverage, you only get the top six tiers, and even then the vast majority is obviously reserved for the Premier League, with the Football League (tiers 2 to 4) next in line.

The rest are only covered regionally and locally, and even then, your local town newspaper might only cover down to say tier 12 or 13 depending on the number of clubs in the area.

The rest all just get on with it each season, playing on public playing fields, part time, little or no wages, most just for fun. It's a huge part of life for a hell of a lot of people in the country really. I think a lot of people, even in Britain, don't realise that.

The Non-League paper (a National, weekly edition) focuses quite heavily all the way down to tier 12. But they do sometimes put in the cup competition fixtures and results for lower tiers.

AndreaModa wrote:Yeah, you definitely want a certain tone of voice and careful consideration of what to focus on.

Remember, there's tons of accounts out there already tweeting about current and past F1 goings on. Off the top of my head, there's @F1__1995, @WhenF1WasDifferent, @RetroRacingCo, @1990sF1, @monzasgorilla, etc, etc

And that's before you get into all of the self proclaimed journos regurgitating, retweeting, pontificating and just generally not doing anyone any favours. No point getting involved with all of that and trying to compete.

We want a clear focus, a reason for the account to exist and thus a reason why the average fan should be following us. When you think about live tweeting during a race, it makes up two hours of activity every two weeks. If you assume a 20 race calendar, then total live tweeting over a season is less than 0.5% of time in a year. You need to find something else to fill the other 99.5% of the time otherwise you'll effectively have a dormant account.

So maybe draw up a list of items that can be tweeted out. Off the top of my head, here's a few we could do:
- The "This Day in Reject History" posts
- ROTR and IIDOTR announcements
- Heavy content promotion (if/when any is ever published)
- Perhaps sharing of interesting forum discussions when they come up (F1 Fanatic does this occasionally).

Any more?

As previous posts had suggest a focus on
- Manor
- Sauber
- Lotus/Renault - Palmer and Maldonado

and any randomness that happens. Maybe a little tongue cheek bagging out of Brundle, Crofty, Herbert, Keith (F1 Fanatic) and maybe also give a little focus on the reject drivers in other series.

AndreaModa wrote:In terms of national coverage, you only get the top six tiers, and even then the vast majority is obviously reserved for the Premier League, with the Football League (tiers 2 to 4) next in line.

The rest are only covered regionally and locally, and even then, your local town newspaper might only cover down to say tier 12 or 13 depending on the number of clubs in the area.

The rest all just get on with it each season, playing on public playing fields, part time, little or no wages, most just for fun. It's a huge part of life for a hell of a lot of people in the country really. I think a lot of people, even in Britain, don't realise that.

Interesting. Sounds a lot like baseball over here, just to a much much larger extreme. Now you guys have the whole promotion/relegation thing there (which I find pretty neat.) Could a club from say Tier 9 climb to the Premier League? At least in theory?

Wallio wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:In terms of national coverage, you only get the top six tiers, and even then the vast majority is obviously reserved for the Premier League, with the Football League (tiers 2 to 4) next in line.

The rest are only covered regionally and locally, and even then, your local town newspaper might only cover down to say tier 12 or 13 depending on the number of clubs in the area.

The rest all just get on with it each season, playing on public playing fields, part time, little or no wages, most just for fun. It's a huge part of life for a hell of a lot of people in the country really. I think a lot of people, even in Britain, don't realise that.

Interesting. Sounds a lot like baseball over here, just to a much much larger extreme. Now you guys have the whole promotion/relegation thing there (which I find pretty neat.) Could a club from say Tier 9 climb to the Premier League? At least in theory?

Yep. The theory goes that a team in tier 23 could theoretically go all the way to the Premier League. Granted, it would take bloody ages and require a complete overhaul of the club to meet infrastructure/organisational/financial standards, but the possibility is there.

AndreaModa wrote:

Wallio wrote:

AndreaModa wrote:In terms of national coverage, you only get the top six tiers, and even then the vast majority is obviously reserved for the Premier League, with the Football League (tiers 2 to 4) next in line.

The rest are only covered regionally and locally, and even then, your local town newspaper might only cover down to say tier 12 or 13 depending on the number of clubs in the area.

The rest all just get on with it each season, playing on public playing fields, part time, little or no wages, most just for fun. It's a huge part of life for a hell of a lot of people in the country really. I think a lot of people, even in Britain, don't realise that.

Interesting. Sounds a lot like baseball over here, just to a much much larger extreme. Now you guys have the whole promotion/relegation thing there (which I find pretty neat.) Could a club from say Tier 9 climb to the Premier League? At least in theory?

Yep. The theory goes that a team in tier 23 could theoretically go all the way to the Premier League. Granted, it would take bloody ages and require a complete overhaul of the club to meet infrastructure/organisational/financial standards, but the possibility is there.

The last two success stories would probably be AFC Wimbledon and Fleetwood Town. The former was founded in 2004 and rose from tier 9 to tier 4 by 2013 and the latter came from tier 8 (with the help of serious funding) to tier 3 within 6 years.

Sadly, the difference between tiers 1,2 and 3/4 are pretty huge. Like a hundred million pounds huge if you wanted to survive year on year.

Bournemouth have shown that it can be done with a little bit of luck and a talented, hungry team. Came from the bottom of tier 4 to the Premier League within 5 years (I think)

Damn, I'm impressed. I wish we would do pro/reg over here. While it wouldn't work for football, since theres just one league, hockey, basketball, and especially baseball could pull it off. But the MLS won't even do it.....

Wallio wrote:Damn, I'm impressed. I wish we would do pro/reg over here. While it wouldn't work for football, since theres just one league, hockey, basketball, and especially baseball could pull it off. But the MLS won't even do it.....

But players move from D-League to the NBA and vice versa. So yeah.

Well yea, and they do in the AHL-NHL, and from Short Season A, to Full A to AA to AAA to the MLB as well, not the same thing though.

The closest we had here was in the 1950s (IIRC) when the Cleveland Barons of the AHL challenged for the Stanley Cup and were (illegally) turned down.

Live Twitter could work quite well provided it stays towards what the sites about. While the Majority of people will be focusing on the fight for first our would be the battle of the Manors for 17th place. Likewise it may be good to know that Hamilton has lead his 200th lap this season. it would be more interesting for us to know that Marcus Ericsson has spent 350 laps in 14th.

peteroli34 wrote:Live Twitter could work quite well provided it stays towards what the sites about. While the Majority of people will be focusing on the fight for first our would be the battle of the Manors for 17th place. Likewise it may be good to know that Hamilton has lead his 200th lap this season. it would be more interesting for us to know that Marcus Ericsson has spent 350 laps in 14th.

That is important. Maybe during the testing period focus on Sauber, Renault and Manor.

At this stage we can lump in McLaren as well, in a "well, it can't get any more rejectful than that, can it?" sense.

dinizintheoven wrote:At this stage we can lump in McLaren as well, in a "well, it can't get any more rejectful than that, can it?" sense.

Eh McLaren is too popular.