Most Forgettable Drivers

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 29 Jul 2011, 15:14

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:
dnhrudi wrote:
ibsey wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned before but Raul Bosel? Wasn't he an F1 driver circa 1983?

Boesel? 82 and 83 with March and Ligier, good choice! The only thing I ever remembered him for was he always had a butterfly on his car. I guess it was related to a sponsor but....

Indeed! All I remember of him were his CART days! Poor lad, really deserved the 1993 Indy 500. Was easily the fastest car all day, but really USAC's penalty was just a joke. Poor Dick Simon looked/sounded as though he wanted to beat the living daylights out of USAC. For the record, he took the penalty, and managed to charge up to 4th, behind the top 3 of Emmo, Arie and Nige. Perhaps if there were another 50 laps he could have caught and passed Nige (he was struggling with the car after the brush with the wall). Whether he would have won would be another story, but it certainly would be a excellent one. Also could have won 1994, but The Captain's lads got rid of him before the race even began. Career somewhat died after that, but he did replace Paul Tracy for Homestead 1999, and then crashed out on the first lap. Got another go with the geriatric Eagle and did a very good job. After that, go and ask Cynon.

Drove for Jaguar in World sports cars in the late 80's. World champ in 87 I believe. Saw him race at Brands, those cars were awesome

Another one. jean Pierre Jabouille, when he won his (and Renaults) first GP, no one noticed!

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 29 Jul 2011, 18:38

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:
dnhrudi wrote:
ibsey wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned before but Raul Bosel? Wasn't he an F1 driver circa 1983?

Boesel? 82 and 83 with March and Ligier, good choice! The only thing I ever remembered him for was he always had a butterfly on his car. I guess it was related to a sponsor but....

Indeed! All I remember of him were his CART days! Poor lad, really deserved the 1993 Indy 500. Was easily the fastest car all day, but really USAC's penalty was just a joke. Poor Dick Simon looked/sounded as though he wanted to beat the living daylights out of USAC. For the record, he took the penalty, and managed to charge up to 4th, behind the top 3 of Emmo, Arie and Nige. Perhaps if there were another 50 laps he could have caught and passed Nige (he was struggling with the car after the brush with the wall). Whether he would have won would be another story, but it certainly would be a excellent one. Also could have won 1994, but The Captain's lads got rid of him before the race even began. Career somewhat died after that, but he did replace Paul Tracy for Homestead 1999, and then crashed out on the first lap. Got another go with the geriatric Eagle and did a very good job. After that, go and ask Cynon.

I went back and watched 1993 Indy some time ago and I recall Boesel's penalty being legitimate, but the broadcast (and Dick Simon) thought it was for passing Mario Andretti initially, which would have been a HORRENDOUS call. Boesel went past someone else. After that, Boesel had an AWESOME duel with Mansell at Milwaukee, and then pretty much dropped off the face of the earth as soon as a few engineers were changed for 1994.

Face it, Boesel was NEVER going to catch the Penske Mercedes in 1994 at Indy even if they hadn't dropped him at the start (Boesel was playing games with the Penske cars at the start to get them to come back to him... and as any CART fan at the time knew, that wasn't happening...). The Penske cars were hitting well over 240 in the straights and had about a thousand horsepower (!!). Paul Tracy even said that he had to get off the gas VERY early if he wanted to make the corner at all.

Boesel in 1995 drove for Bobby Rahal and predictably got blown into the weeds by Rahal, then managed to make Team Green a backmarker team the following season... after they had come off a championship year... not exactly brilliant.

His efforts in the Eagle were brilliant however. Went about as fast as Robby Gordon (frankly, Robby made a bunch of bad choices in 1999... once he abandoned the Reynard it went downhill FAST) in the same car.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 29 Jul 2011, 21:38

Looking back at the files for 1989 for some strange reason; Luis Pérez-Sala.

whatisdeletrazdoing · Post by **whatisdeletrazdoing** » 31 Jul 2011, 18:00

Who the heck was Noberto Fontana? I don't think I've ever heard of him

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 31 Jul 2011, 19:04

whatisdeletrazdoing wrote:Who the heck was Noberto Fontana? I don't think I've ever heard of him

I have a model of one of his saubers.......Just throwing it out there

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 31 Jul 2011, 23:49

stupot94 wrote:
whatisdeletrazdoing wrote:Who the heck was Noberto Fontana? I don't think I've ever heard of him

I have a model of one of his saubers.......Just throwing it out there

He did get accused of deliberately blocking Jacques Villeneuve during the 1997 Euro GP at Jerez. (Driving for Sauber-Ferrari).

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 01 Aug 2011, 07:54

eagleash wrote:
stupot94 wrote:
whatisdeletrazdoing wrote:Who the heck was Noberto Fontana? I don't think I've ever heard of him

I have a model of one of his saubers.......Just throwing it out there

He did get accused of deliberately blocking Jacques Villeneuve during the 1997 Euro GP at Jerez. (Driving for Sauber-Ferrari).

Great F3 driver, ended up as default number 2 (after Larini and Morbidelli) in a one car team at Sauber, A test driver that never tested, he didn't stand a chance.

The Mountain Man · Post by **The Mountain Man** » 01 Aug 2011, 11:11

Sticking to the spirit of this thread I will only nominate to guys I've recently heard mentioned and only later remembered about having an F1 career. This doesn't mean they were bad or anything... just people I forgot drove in F1 in the first place.

Paolo Barilla
Allan McNish
Henri Pescarolo
Jean-Louis Schlesser
Stephane Sarrazin (he was actually in F1 for a cup of coffee but qualifies nonetheless)
Franck Lagorce

I usually hear the name mentioned and nothing happens for a few hours (or a few days), then bang! "Didn't this chap race in F1?".

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 01 Aug 2011, 13:50

Helmut Marko.

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 06 Sep 2011, 04:16

Francois Hesnault

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 06 Sep 2011, 16:50

Antonio Pizzonia. Oh dear...

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 06 Sep 2011, 18:18

Gianmaria Bruni and Patrick Freisacher. Huh, very anonymos during Minardi's final years!

Ok not an F1 driver BUT, whatever happened to Neel Jani? He was touted as the next big thing and then just vanished along with A1 GP.

ibsey · Post by **ibsey** » 19 Sep 2011, 12:14

I'd forgotten Bobby Rahal / Alex Ribeiro / Ricarrdo Zunino & Ian Scheteker were Gp's drivers until I recently came across their names in a GP encyclopedia.

Apologlies if they have been mentioned already.

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 19 Sep 2011, 13:53

Shadaza wrote:Gianmaria Bruni and Patrick Freisacher. Huh, very anonymos during Minardi's final years!

Ok not an F1 driver BUT, whatever happened to Neel Jani? He was touted as the next big thing and then just vanished along with A1 GP.

Since A1GP folded, Jani has competed in the Superleague Formula and the FIA GT1 World Championship, but his main priority is with Rebellion Racing in various LMP1 series.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 19 Sep 2011, 18:25

stupot94 wrote:Has anyone said

Cristiano Da Matta?

Ex Toyota driver, if you had forgotten

IIRC he led a few laps of the british gp in '03 after that mad irish ex-priest decided that hanger straight looked like a nice place for a dance....

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 19 Sep 2011, 21:52

Nick Heidfeld.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

And actually most drivers who ever raced for Shadow. Geroge Follmer, Dave Kennedy (althoughI guess Setanta viewers will be more familiar with him), Jackie Oliver, Brian Redman, Bertil Roos...

Tony Bettenhausen too, but only because the only F1 races he did were Indy; Ian Burgess coz he was sh*t; Lucien Bianchi, who is related to Ferrari protégé Jules and Bruce Halford because he was swamped by the messes of late 50s British privateers while occasionally DNQing.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 19 Sep 2011, 23:12

I think we've more often than not missed the point of this thread all along. I think it'd be more adequate to just nominate forgettable F1 drivers that were otherwise remarkable.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Sep 2011, 14:40

kostas22 wrote:And actually most drivers who ever raced for Shadow. Geroge Follmer, Dave Kennedy (althoughI guess Setanta viewers will be more familiar with him), Jackie Oliver, Brian Redman, Bertil Roos...

But Jackie Oliver was one of the founders of Arrows! But yeah, I remember him for Arrows more than being a driver (just like Bernie being remembered for stuff other than being a failed F1 driver).

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:00

When a couple of years ago I read on the net that Tomas Enge raced in 2001 my first reaction was: "who the f*** is Enge?"

Another one should be Baumgartner, but... I remember him just for his name!

Post by **Londoner** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:04

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Another one should be Baumgartner, but... I remember him just for his name!

You mentioned HWNSNBM's name. On his birthday of all days.

Only bad things will happen now. Maybe, HWNSNBM will smite all members of the forum with F1 Deprivation!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:19

Now the whole forum except dr-baker

is going to throw papayas at you.

(Don't ask why)

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:27

I'm guessing that she might have guessed from the responses to her original posts...

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:31

East Londoner wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Another one should be Baumgartner, but... I remember him just for his name!

You mentioned HWNSNBM's name. On his birthday of all days.

Only bad things will happen now. Maybe, HWNSNBM will smite all members of the forum with F1 Deprivation!

Oh, sorry! I'm relatively new on this forum and I've just realized later that HWNSNBM shouldn't be mentioned!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:33

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
East Londoner wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Another one should be Baumgartner, but... I remember him just for his name!

You mentioned HWNSNBM's name. On his birthday of all days.

Only bad things will happen now. Maybe, HWNSNBM will smite all members of the forum with F1 Deprivation!

Oh, sorry! I'm relatively new on this forum and I've just realized later that HWNSNBM shouldn't be mentioned!

Yep, 'fraid so. HWNSNBM = He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 01 Jan 2012, 21:36

dr-baker wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
East Londoner wrote:

You mentioned HWNSNBM's name. On his birthday of all days.

Only bad things will happen now. Maybe, HWNSNBM will smite all members of the forum with F1 Deprivation!

Oh, sorry! I'm relatively new on this forum and I've just realized later that HWNSNBM shouldn't be mentioned!

Yep, 'fraid so. HWNSNBM = He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.

That sucks, now I have no one to throw a papaya at now

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 01 Jan 2012, 22:54

eurobrun wrote:That sucks, now I have no one to throw a papaya at now

Baumgartner (But keep it quiet)

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 01 Jan 2012, 22:55

Throws papaya at stupot94

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 01 Jan 2012, 23:50

*Loads Papaya Gatling Gun and aims at Eurobrun* :twisted:

I think we can see where this is going. :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 01 Jan 2012, 23:53

Gets ready to launch papaya filled nuclear warhead at Wizzie :twisted:

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 02 Jan 2012, 00:27

Careful guys, you'll scare away the girl!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 02 Jan 2012, 01:12

shinji wrote:Careful guys, you'll scare away the girl and make dr-baker cry!

Fixed

by the way Shinji, I love your sig!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 02 Jan 2012, 01:38

AdrianSutil wrote:
shinji wrote:Careful guys, you'll scare away the girl and make dr-baker cry!

Fixed

by the way Shinji, I love your sig!

This (Shinji's sig is awesome)

And to try to get this thread back on topic

Toshio Suzuki

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Jan 2012, 07:25

Naoki Hattori
Hiroshi Fushida (people always refer to Hasemi, Takahara, Takahashi and Hoshino as the first Japanese drivers, but Fushida was there in 1975)

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 02 Jan 2012, 10:20

eurobrun wrote:Gets ready to launch papaya filled nuclear warhead at Wizzie

Right, you lot. I suppose I can hold it off no more; I should reveal the truth. I have invaded this forum because I am an evil genius capable of hyperspace and time travel. You know that bunch of six exoplanets that were recently discovered all at once? I knew about those a century ago, and had them all hollowed out. Inside each one has been growing a giant papaya the size of which you would not believe. The time for launch is imminent, and I will unleash my supercomputer, at the centre of which is a clone of Stephen Hawking's brain enriched with a stick of chalk once used by Albert Einstein to write some incredibly complicated equations on a blackboard. The supercomputer can predict exactly the angle and accelerating force required - to within a billionth of a degree in any direction and to the nanonewton - to launch the seven-league papayas so that they are accelerated further by the gravitational field of every star they pass on the way to your exact position anywhere in the world, and will hit their targets with complete accuracy and with the force of Andrea de Cesaris crashing a car made of neutron star and the size of Lewis Hamilton's ego into the other most massive object in the universe: Bernie's bank account.

Any last requests?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 02 Jan 2012, 10:27

dinizintheoven wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Gets ready to launch papaya filled nuclear warhead at Wizzie

Right, you lot. I suppose I can hold it off no more; I should reveal the truth. I have invaded this forum because I am an evil genius capable of hyperspace and time travel. You know that bunch of six exoplanets that were recently discovered all at once? I knew about those a century ago, and had them all hollowed out. Inside each one has been growing a giant papaya the size of which you would not believe. The time for launch is imminent, and I will unleash my supercomputer, at the centre of which is a clone of Stephen Hawking's brain enriched with a stick of chalk once used by Albert Einstein to write some incredibly complicated equations on a blackboard. The supercomputer can predict exactly the angle and accelerating force required - to within a billionth of a degree in any direction and to the nanonewton - to launch the seven-league papayas so that they are accelerated further by the gravitational field of every star they pass on the way to your exact position anywhere in the world, and will hit their targets with complete accuracy and with the force of Andrea de Cesaris crashing a car made of neutron star and the size of Lewis Hamilton's ego into the other most massive object in the universe: Bernie's bank account.

Any last requests?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 02 Jan 2012, 11:16

AdrianSutil wrote:
shinji wrote:Careful guys, you'll scare away the girl and make dr-baker cry!

Fixed

I'm

NOT

a

crybaby!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 02 Jan 2012, 11:54

dinizintheoven wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Gets ready to launch papaya filled nuclear warhead at Wizzie

Right, you lot. I suppose I can hold it off no more; I should reveal the truth. I have invaded this forum because I am an evil genius capable of hyperspace and time travel. You know that bunch of six exoplanets that were recently discovered all at once? I knew about those a century ago, and had them all hollowed out. Inside each one has been growing a giant papaya the size of which you would not believe. The time for launch is imminent, and I will unleash my supercomputer, at the centre of which is a clone of Stephen Hawking's brain enriched with a stick of chalk once used by Albert Einstein to write some incredibly complicated equations on a blackboard. The supercomputer can predict exactly the angle and accelerating force required - to within a billionth of a degree in any direction and to the nanonewton - to launch the seven-league papayas so that they are accelerated further by the gravitational field of every star they pass on the way to your exact position anywhere in the world, and will hit their targets with complete accuracy and with the force of Andrea de Cesaris crashing a car made of neutron star and the size of Lewis Hamilton's ego into the other most massive object in the universe: Bernie's bank account.

Any last requests?

Forgive me your lordship. I'll retreat into my alternative universe where I'm actually good at something. :oops:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 02 Jan 2012, 12:04

dr-baker wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
shinji wrote:Careful guys, you'll scare away the girl and make dr-baker cry!

Fixed

I'm NOT a crybaby!

Please AdrianSutil, stop making fun of dr-baker in front of Sunshine_Baby_[IT]. You are embarrassing him!

Post by **Londoner** » 02 Jan 2012, 12:15

Oh dear. Looks like we've another F1 Rejects meme, to add alongside Phoenglish, Wizzie's low difficulty levels and being slightly bored by Nick Heidfeld :lol:

Now, what can we call this meme, as I'm useless at giving things a name...

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 02 Jan 2012, 12:35

dinizintheoven wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Gets ready to launch papaya filled nuclear warhead at Wizzie

Right, you lot. I suppose I can hold it off no more; I should reveal the truth. I have invaded this forum because I am an evil genius capable of hyperspace and time travel. You know that bunch of six exoplanets that were recently discovered all at once? I knew about those a century ago, and had them all hollowed out. Inside each one has been growing a giant papaya the size of which you would not believe. The time for launch is imminent, and I will unleash my supercomputer, at the centre of which is a clone of Stephen Hawking's brain enriched with a stick of chalk once used by Albert Einstein to write some incredibly complicated equations on a blackboard. The supercomputer can predict exactly the angle and accelerating force required - to within a billionth of a degree in any direction and to the nanonewton - to launch the seven-league papayas so that they are accelerated further by the gravitational field of every star they pass on the way to your exact position anywhere in the world, and will hit their targets with complete accuracy and with the force of Andrea de Cesaris crashing a car made of neutron star and the size of Lewis Hamilton's ego into the other most massive object in the universe: Bernie's bank account.

Any last requests?

Unfortunately for you I already knew that plan. As a sentient being for the good in this and other universes I feel evil like you listen to sounds or like Hamilton naturally crashes into a moving object. It is involuntary and I use this capacity to balance the forces in the set of all universes. I counter evil with good. It took me a while to to discover what your evil mind was planing, but I eventually found out what you were doing in those exoplanets (which HWNSNBM told me about a couple of hundred million years ago after he lovingly created my existence and grew me into this form). Since I found out about your dastardly evil plans I took the liberty of replacing the propulsion system you had to launch those papayas for Life W12 engines and I also removed all the papaya pulp and replaced it by Coloni C4 and S921 parts. Which means that your papayas will never leave orbit before breaking down more than once. And if you manage to make a few meters with them they will eventually be so slow that this universe will expire of old age before they even reach the first star.

Did I mentioned that I've tampered with those papayas so that you cannot go there and change them back? I placed a tamper-proof mechanism based in Renault exhaust systems that will spontaneously burst into flames at the slightest touch and cause the papaya to explode in your face. That is if you find them, because they are the size of Pastor Maldonado skill to make the Korea pit-lane. Good luck, evil dude.