Reject (or not) track design.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 10 Sep 2011, 14:17

i forgot to mention my super-ultra-mega-gran-prix-cross-country-circuit's indianapolis section runs the road course of the speedway.
.....and the cleveland leg of the 4 lap race runs the old indycar burke lakefront course. .....and the little part of the track in iowa that goes west for a bit is a chicane to slow the cars going into St.Paul
fastest lap of the race so far.....

just under 5 days 3laps to go! let me tell you, it's quite the challenge with refuelling outlawed and all.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Sep 2011, 16:29

nome66 wrote:*bump* any more ideas, guys?

Seeing as you asked, I will make my full list of reject circuits in .png format - bearing in mind some of them had to be screengrabbed and coloured in by hand because gmap-pedometer doesn't work everywhere that I want it to. But first... I have dinner to attend to.

Watch this space!

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Sep 2011, 18:53

Right! Time for The Ultimate Reject Circuit collection - of mine, at least. Here are the gmap-pedometer links that I've already posted:

dinizintheoven wrote:Nottingham University: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4324110
Nottingham city (with many average speed cameras): http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4324119
Milton Keynes: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4324131
Tórshavn, Faroe Islands: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4342924
Yellowknife, NWT, Canada: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4342950
Godthåb/Nuuk, Greenland: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4342957
La Paz, Bolivia (endurance course): http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4342966 - fantastic for turbo engines, and this one is the new Nürburgring - the roads are like spaghetti.
Interlude: Annoyingly, gmaps-pedometer doesn't work everywhere I want it to; it refuses to accept routes round the perimeter road in Nauru, or the roads round Stanley in the Falkland Islands. And the Nauru circuit would be great, I planned to have the start/finish line right outside the Parliament House, so the pit lane would be shorter than the race track, for extra rejectfulness.
Antigua (endurance course): http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4354743
Anguilla: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4354750 - contains a corner called "Blowing Point"...
Scarborough, Tobago (not Scarborough, Yorkshire): the map won't draw (same as for Port Stanley) but the circuit is: start on Carrington Street just as it turns SW, right onto Wilson Road, right onto Claude Noel Highway, right onto Bacolet Street, left onto Main Street, I think you can get it right from there.

And here they are (well, most of them) in PNG form, with varying degrees of artistic bathpluggery for those where gmap-pedometer wouldn't work. For those, the first point would be plotted, but then any double-click would just centre the map on that point, rather than plotting any more. It seems odd that I can make a gmap-pedometer circuit in Western Sahara, but not on the Falkland Islands.

Nottingham University
Tórshavn, Faroe Islands
Yellowknife, NWT, Canada
Godthåb/Nuuk, Greenland
La Paz, Bolivia (endurance course)
Nauru perimeter road
Stanley, Falkland Islands
Antigua (endurance course)
Anguilla
Scarborough, Tobago

And now, the new ones:

Laayoune, Western Sahara (endurance course) (gmap-pedometer)
St. Mary's, Isles of Scilly (gmap-pedometer)
Panama Canal Zone (endurance course) (gmap-pedometer didn't work)

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 Sep 2011, 19:03

dinizintheoven wrote:...fantastic for turbo engines, and this one is the new Nürburgring.

Yeah, new Nürburgring indeed. Well, it looks interesting but totally ripped-off. :mrgreen:

Post by **tommykl** » 10 Sep 2011, 19:23

The tour of Belgium. It starts at Spa, goes around most major cities and passes next to all race tracks that hosted an F1 race.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=NaN

The length? 1051km, or 653 miles.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Sep 2011, 20:16

Klon wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:...fantastic for turbo engines, and this one is the new Nürburgring.

Yeah, new Nürburgring indeed. Well, it looks interesting but totally ripped-off.

[citation needed]

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 Sep 2011, 20:20

dinizintheoven wrote:
Klon wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:...fantastic for turbo engines, and this one is the new Nürburgring.

Yeah, new Nürburgring indeed. Well, it looks interesting but totally ripped-off.

[citation needed]

http://www.7-forum.com/news/2008/mini_c ... hleife.jpg
Looking familiar to your circuit?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Sep 2011, 23:24

Klon wrote:http://www.7-forum.com/news/2008/mini_challenge/nuerburgring_nordschleife.jpg
Looking familiar to your circuit?

I see, I thought you were accusing me of copying another reject circuit from another forum user. Which I didn't. And although when I saw the streets of La Paz, the intention was immediately to create a Nordschleife-esque circuit (quite deliberately, hence the description), there are a number of key differences.

(1) The La Paz circuit is considerably longer. Four miles longer. Or half the Nordschleife's length again.
(2) The Nordschleife doesn't run on the twisty streets of a capital city.
(3) The Nordschleife isn't two miles above sea level.
(4) The Nordscleife doesn't have any right-angle corners, or a mile-long straight, and it doesn't go past the United States Embassy.
(5) That bit around the eight-mile mark will scare the living bathplug out of any driver who attempts to take it at any more than walking pace.
(6) Nobody at the Nordschleife will be high on coca leaves. Well, maybe some of the BMW drivers.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 12 Sep 2011, 08:55

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5076536

A literally impossible circuit in my city, going up Mecsek's (small mountain) side a little bit. 5.09 miles, in the middle of the city.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5076546

One more, this has lots of straights.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 18 Sep 2011, 03:13

Bad news everyone...

Unfortunely Google passed their satellites over Germany and the old layout of the Hockenheimring is no longer on Google maps. Luckily someone took a snapshot before this happened:

Around August I was bored so I traced the layout of the old Hockenheimring. Now you can see the two close together: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5054260

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 18 Sep 2011, 13:59

google earth is free and you can look at the historic sattelite photos of many locations. Hockenheim is one of them.
to be honest i was waiting for them to update the picture of the hockenheimring. the one from 2000 was stale.

.....Problem solved!!!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Sep 2011, 01:23

nome66 wrote:google earth is free and you can look at the historic sattelite photos of many locations. Hockenheim is one of them.
to be honest i was waiting for them to update the picture of the hockenheimring. the one from 2000 was stale.

.....Problem solved!!!

It was kinda neat being able to not have to search it through the historic photos. Just pointing it out...

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 20 Sep 2011, 02:28

i dunno. i always found it cool to see how places have changed. if you fly over to silverstone in google earth and peer through history, you can see it in 1945 before anything more than a spitfire had touched it. comparing to all the kinks and chicanes of today's track it was basically a speedway oval for the longest time.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 27 Sep 2011, 13:00

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5108629

Why? Because I can :lol:

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 27 Sep 2011, 14:00

the Masked Lapwing wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5108629

Why? Because I can

you really should remove that airplane first

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 28 Sep 2011, 03:50

No, just go under it.

Though personally, I'd go in for this:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5110183

Frentzen127 · Post by **Frentzen127** » 04 Oct 2011, 17:44

dinizintheoven wrote:(1) The La Paz circuit is considerably longer. Four miles longer. Or half the Nordschleife's length again.
(2) The Nordschleife doesn't run on the twisty streets of a capital city.
(3) The Nordschleife isn't two miles above sea level.
(4) The Nordscleife doesn't have any right-angle corners, or a mile-long straight, and it doesn't go past the United States Embassy.
(5) That bit around the eight-mile mark will scare the living bathplug out of any driver who attempts to take it at any more than walking pace.
(6) Nobody at the Nordschleife will be high on coca leaves. Well, maybe some of the BMW drivers.

Credit for making a street circuit in La Paz. Its an out-of-the box thinking which looks interesting enough.
That said, my only suggestion would be to extend the circuit slightly to make it run along the road and round point next to the Stadium (Hernando Siles).
It an interesting landmark and one which could add in a little bit more of character to your course without a significant increase in length.

In my second attempt ever to make a road course in my hometown, I plumped for the financial district. The economy is a disaster as it is, shutting it down for a weekend won't do any harm.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5119257

Its a mind numbingly boring layout, and I lack imagination to make it better, so I can only hope anybody can look up the area and find anything better. The only good thing about this circuit is its terrain and elevation changes. The delta between its lowest and highest point is 71 meters. And the Circunvalar avenue is a remarkable, albeit narrow, piece of road.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 10 Oct 2011, 04:00

Here's some more from my area.

Bagdad Grand Prix: (A sort version of course.)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5132020

Valparaiso Grand Prix:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5131985

East Bay Grand Prix:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5131993

Pensacola Beach Grand Prix: (It goes on a "Maldanado Drive" as well.

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http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5132003

Niceville Grand Prix:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5132006

Destin Grand Prix:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5132011

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 10 Oct 2011, 17:43

In Helsinki they are planning to move the central railway station to a more suburban are north of the city centre and instead build an underground railway that would connect the centre with the central station. This would free up land space just above the centre of Helsinki around the Toolo Bay area. IF an F1 were to be built here this could be a good layout, although there wouldn't probably be enough space in reality.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 10 Oct 2011, 18:45

or maybe they could use the old 'Helsinki Thunder" track.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 02 Dec 2011, 17:58

Here's another one. Cordova Grand Prix. Uses parts of an airport service road to create a track with both tight turns, and long straits.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5207514

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 03 Dec 2011, 20:23

my brain farted a course that combines turns 1 and 2 of the oval with the road course. might hit up Super GT and see what they think

i know it's a bit simple in terms of creativity.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 12 Dec 2011, 15:16

GP of San Francisco

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5217014

Post by **tommykl** » 12 Dec 2011, 15:49

Benetton wrote:GP of San Francisco

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5217014

No Lombard Street? I'm disappointed.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 13 Dec 2011, 21:48

Benetton wrote:GP of San Francisco

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5217014

Interesting, considering there's nothing but residential houses there. Just get rid of the loop that goes around the person's house (the big mansion) and this should be a good track.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Dec 2011, 21:15

This should be the new Birmingham Superprix.

The track would be a fair bit different, but the pedometer would not let you use the underpass on the main roundabout.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 22 Dec 2011, 21:41

redbulljack14 wrote:This should be the new Birmingham Superprix.

The track would be a fair bit different, but the pedometer would not let you use the underpass on the main roundabout.

That's a bit tight in my opinion...

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Dec 2011, 22:42

JeremyMcClean wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:This should be the new Birmingham Superprix.

The track would be a fair bit different, but the pedometer would not let you use the underpass on the main roundabout.

That's a bit tight in my opinion...

The drivers need a challenge, and the road where the hairpin is at the start is three lanes.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 23 Dec 2011, 02:58

Mobile Grand Prix. Goes through two underwater tunnels.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5226802

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 03 Jan 2012, 23:04

if Ecclestodt gets bored with Melbourne, maybe.......

what do you guys think?

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 04 Jan 2012, 00:14

redbulljack14 wrote:This should be the new Birmingham Superprix.

The track would be a fair bit different, but the pedometer would not let you use the underpass on the main roundabout.

That hairpin bit reminds me of Norisring

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 11 Jan 2012, 12:03

I have devised a rather suitable track for F1 in San Diego.This track has very big elevation changes,such as the four turns before the main straight.At the northeast part of the track,the 2 turns before the hairpin is almost a carbon copy of Eau Rouge.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5250102

I also made airfield circuits,with this being my best:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5196508

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 12 Jan 2012, 03:27

WaffleCat wrote:I also made airfield circuits,with this being my best:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5196508

looks better than silverstone

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 12 Jan 2012, 03:31

nome66 wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:I also made airfield circuits,with this being my best:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5196508

looks better than silverstone

This

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 12 Jan 2012, 16:49

This is a short street circuit in downtown Warsaw, that incorporates bits of the Verva Street Racing track route:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5251904

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 13 Jan 2012, 05:48

A street circuit that I created in Ghent.A rather high speed one at that.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5214900

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 13 Jan 2012, 05:59

WaffleCat wrote:A street circuit that I created in Ghent.A rather high speed one at that.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5214900

This one reminds me of AVUS

Post by **tommykl** » 13 Jan 2012, 19:45

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4356032
This is a track I made a few months ago, in Ghent as well, but on the other side of the city.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 15 Jan 2012, 20:07

some more track modification here

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Apr 2012, 20:00

Here's a bit of a go-kart track that I imagined around my school graounds while I was at school about 12 or 13 years ago...

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=5416963