Formula 1 - we recreate reality! 1951 season

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 13 Feb 2012, 20:32

Simon Redman said that he was happy with Rol's points finish. He said that the finish was a great confidence boost for the team and that his spin-off team the Robert William Racing Team was ready and confident for Indianapolis.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Feb 2012, 20:36

The owner of Jaguar reprtedly is Ab. So. Lutely. FURIOUS at recent turn of events.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 13 Feb 2012, 21:28

Scuderia Platé-Varzi announces they will wear both models of Maserati 4CLT, the 'main works' 4CLT/48 for Fagioli and Von Stuck and the 4CLT for the remaining drivers entried for the European races (Indy's use of Kuzmas will continue)

Moda92 · Post by **Moda92** » 13 Feb 2012, 23:01

Scuderia Ambrosiana's season plan.

1 entry at each of the remaining GPs, minus Indy and Britain.
2 entries at Italian GP.

Giovanni Bracco for Belgium. TBA for rest.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 13 Feb 2012, 23:31

Landi will race for Commesso in all the remaining races except France where he is taken by another team. Louis Chiron (who has been sacked by his team) will run France. I would also like to enter as many cars at indy as the rules allow driven by local drivers.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 14 Feb 2012, 09:08

tommykl wrote:
Bleu wrote:Due to entry restrictions, Motorsport Bleu will use no longer guest drivers. B.Bira will be main driver in the team.

Does that mean I enter him for all the remaining races?

Except Indy, yes.

Post by **tommykl** » 17 Feb 2012, 18:28

eurobrun wrote:Landi will race for Commesso in all the remaining races except France where he is taken by another team. Louis Chiron (who has been sacked by his team) will run France. I would also like to enter as many cars at indy as the rules allow driven by local drivers.

For Indy, you're allowed a maximum of 10 drivers, but only four per entrant (for Indy ONLY, as this is just to boost entries)

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 17 Feb 2012, 19:24

I would like to change to all races except Indy, please.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 17 Feb 2012, 21:06

Strange requet this, but would Manzon and Sanesi be allowed to compete at Indy as ART-Offenhauser? I'm not bothered about losing points in the Constructors and teams titles, but both scored top points at Monaco and I'd like to try and keep that going.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 17 Feb 2012, 21:21

AdrianSutil wrote:Strange requet this, but would Manzon and Sanesi be allowed to compete at Indy as ART-Offenhauser? I'm not bothered about losing points in the Constructors and teams titles, but both scored top points at Monaco and I'd like to try and keep that going.

no, because monaco and indy are too close in the calendar (they often ran the same date), you can't run the same driver in both of them, as this would be theoretically impossible. You can run your cars there (as it would be theoretically possible to have more cars)

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 17 Feb 2012, 23:20

Can I enter Walt Brown, Carl Forberg, Bill Schindler and Mack Hellings for Indy under the team name America Motorsport Team.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 17 Feb 2012, 23:29

This wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Strange requet this, but would Manzon and Sanesi be allowed to compete at Indy as ART-Offenhauser? I'm not bothered about losing points in the Constructors and teams titles, but both scored top points at Monaco and I'd like to try and keep that going.

no, because monaco and indy are too close in the calendar (they often ran the same date), you can't run the same driver in both of them, as this would be theoretically impossible. You can run your cars there (as it would be theoretically possible to have more cars)

Yeah that's true. I forgot.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 17 Feb 2012, 23:38

AdrianSutil wrote:
This wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Strange requet this, but would Manzon and Sanesi be allowed to compete at Indy as ART-Offenhauser? I'm not bothered about losing points in the Constructors and teams titles, but both scored top points at Monaco and I'd like to try and keep that going.

no, because monaco and indy are too close in the calendar (they often ran the same date), you can't run the same driver in both of them, as this would be theoretically impossible. You can run your cars there (as it would be theoretically possible to have more cars)

Yeah that's true. I forgot.

And they still do to this day.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 18 Feb 2012, 03:26

Just one thing though regarding drivers not being able to run at Indy because of Monaco - in the 60's people did run at Monaco and then Indy. I'm not sure if it would have been possible in 1951, though, maybe because of passenger jets not being that widely available?

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 19 Feb 2012, 01:34

eurobrun wrote:
tommykl wrote:eurobrun, I noticed you have Grignard lined up in Belgium and France, when he's already entered for Albertini. You also have Landi in France when he's already driving for Platé-Varzi. You may want to make some changes there

OK, looks like I bathplugged up. I will replace them later. Also, the owner of Ecurie Albertini (Pointrox) hasn't really been active in this thread.

I'm in control of things - I don't have to post in this thread when my team's not racing

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 01 Mar 2012, 21:47

So how is this going?

Post by **Londoner** » 01 Mar 2012, 21:57

simonracer wrote:So how is this going?

I believe Tommy has exams and revision and all that, so he probably doesn't have enough free time to run this at the moment. Either that or he's stricken with Can'tBeArsed Syndrome, a condition that affects every teenager, everywhere, all the time... :lol:

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 02 Mar 2012, 02:40

East Londoner wrote:
simonracer wrote:So how is this going?

I believe Tommy has exams and revision and all that, so he probably doesn't have enough free time to run this at the moment. Either that or he's stricken with Can'tBeArsed Syndrome, a condition that affects every teenager, everywhere, all the time...

Oh, the teens... how good were... somehow...

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Mar 2012, 17:36

East Londoner wrote:
simonracer wrote:So how is this going?

I believe Tommy has exams and revision and all that, so he probably doesn't have enough free time to run this at the moment. Either that or he's stricken with Can'tBeArsed Syndrome, a condition that affects every teenager, everywhere, all the time...

Actually, I went skiing for a week and then had to prepare a presentation for school. That and I'm still waiting for entries for Indianapolis. Remember, 10 per user!

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 02 Mar 2012, 21:05

Scuderia Platé-Varzi will add other two Kuzma Indy Roadsters to Bob Sweikert and Duke Dinsmore for their line-up for Indy

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 02 Mar 2012, 22:33

Would Dries Van der Lof(spelling?) be eligible for indy.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Mar 2012, 06:19

eurobrun wrote:Would Dries Van der Lof(spelling?) be eligible for indy.

He's on the entry list, but I don't think I'll keep him.

Post by **tommykl** » 08 Mar 2012, 17:32

The entry list for Indianapolis will close on Sunday, so get your entries in!

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 08 Mar 2012, 21:02

tommykl wrote:The entry list for Indianapolis will close on Sunday, so get your entries in!

I want to enter Piero Taruffi for Indy with a Kurtis Kraft Roadster!

Post by **tommykl** » 09 Mar 2012, 17:15

wmetcalf68 wrote:
tommykl wrote:The entry list for Indianapolis will close on Sunday, so get your entries in!

I want to enter Piero Taruffi for Indy with a Kurtis Kraft Roadster!

You can't, because he already drove at Monaco.

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 09 Mar 2012, 23:37

tommykl wrote:
wmetcalf68 wrote:
tommykl wrote:The entry list for Indianapolis will close on Sunday, so get your entries in!

I want to enter Piero Taruffi for Indy with a Kurtis Kraft Roadster!

You can't, because he already drove at Monaco.

What about Lee Wallard or Henry Banks?

Post by **tommykl** » 10 Mar 2012, 06:43

wmetcalf68 wrote:What about Lee Wallard or Henry Banks?

Wallard was already taken, but Henry Banks is good and now entered for Metcalf.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 10 Mar 2012, 06:48

Did you see my entry for Jimmy Davies?

Post by **tommykl** » 10 Mar 2012, 06:50

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Did you see my entry for Jimmy Davies?

I didn't see it, but it's now on the entry list. We now have 33 entrants. Entry list will close on Sunday 11 March at 12:00 GMT+1

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 10 Mar 2012, 16:02

tommykl wrote:
wmetcalf68 wrote:What about Lee Wallard or Henry Banks?

Wallard was already taken, but Henry Banks is good and now entered for Metcalf.

Yay!

Post by **Londoner** » 10 Mar 2012, 17:16

I'm gonna enter Rodger Ward as a privateer, driving a Watson Offenhauser, if that's OK...

Post by **tommykl** » 12 Mar 2012, 14:56

Entry list closed with 34 drivers.

Post by **tommykl** » 16 Mar 2012, 09:35

For Indianapolis, the following teams have not stated their chassis-engine pairings, and cars they will use if not confirmed:
SuperAguri's privateers - home-made cars
Motorsport Bleu - Talbot-Lago-Talbot

The following teams have confirmed chassis-engine pairings:
Ecurie Albertini: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Scuderia Ferrari: Ferrari
Ferrari America: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Alfa Romeo SpA: Alfa Romeo
Garage Francorchamps (ENB): Ferrari
Mike Hawthorn: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Tony Gaze: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Robert William Racing Team: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Rodger Ward: Watson-Offenhauser
America Motorsport Team: Maserati
Scuderia Maremmana: Deidt-Jaguar
Team Metcalf GP: Metcalf-Jaguar
Scuderia Platé-Varzi - Kuzma-Maserati
Claes Racing Developments: Maserati
Scuderia Commesso: Kurtis Kraft-Ferrari

Concerned users must confirm chassis-engine pairings before Sunday 18th March 2012 at 12:00 GMT+1.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 16 Mar 2012, 09:41

America Motorsport Team will use Maserati chassis and engines

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 16 Mar 2012, 11:57

I am going to take a Deidt chassis run by the Jaguar engine.

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 16 Mar 2012, 16:50

tommykl wrote:For Indianapolis, the following teams have not stated their chassis-engine pairings, and cars they will use if not confirmed:
SuperAguri's privateers - home-made cars
Scuderia Platé-Varzi - Kuzma-Maserati
Motorsport Bleu - Talbot-Lago-Talbot
Claes Racing Developments - Maserati
Scuderia Commesso - Commesso-Ferrari
Team Metcalf GP - Metcalf

The following teams have confirmed chassis-engine pairings:
Ecurie Albertini: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Scuderia Ferrari: Ferrari
Ferrari America: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Alfa Romeo SpA: Alfa Romeo
Garage Francorchamps (ENB): Ferrari
Mike Hawthorn: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Tony Gaze: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Robert William Racing Team: Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser
Rodger Ward: Watson-Offenhauser
America Motorsport Team: Maserati
Scuderia Maremmana - Deidt-Jaguar

Concerned users must confirm chassis-engine pairings before Sunday 18th March 2012 at 12:00 GMT+1.

Metcalf is the chassis,and Jaguar is the engine.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 16 Mar 2012, 17:07

Scuderia Platé-Varzi will use Kuzma-Maseratis

The Lukas · Post by **The Lukas** » 16 Mar 2012, 19:05

Claes Racing Developments will use Maserati chassis and engines

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 16 Mar 2012, 21:48

Scuderia Commesso will use a Kurtis Kraft chassis and the same Ferrari engines

Post by **tommykl** » 18 Mar 2012, 11:46

The deadline is past, SuperAguri's privateers will race homebuilt cars with their last names as the chassis name. They will be given the classic Offenhauser engine. Motorsport Bleu will run Talbot-Lago-Talbots.

The short entry list should make things interesting, as only one driver will watch the race from the grandstands.