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dr-baker wrote:But I do see where you are coming from. It was an experience that not one of us whould want to go through, and if we did, we would want to put it past us and move on. Right?


Exactly. I recently watched a race that David took part in, off the top of my head, I think it was the ALMS series at Long Beach in (I think 2010). He was simply stunning in that race, taking the fight to the 'works' Aston Martin LMP1 cars. Personally I would rather remember David for stuff like that, above his time in F1.

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Now that you have put things like that, I can see where you are coming from also. To which I am happy to agree with you.

Therefore perhaps it would be fair to remember David 'the person' more for the heroic way he acted during his time in F1. Another all time hero of mine is Jackie Stewart for simliar reasons.

Whislt perhaps remembering David 'the driver' for his stunning sportcar exploits. Which personally I find is easier to get more exicted about, than his F1 drives. Not least because we see more TV coverage of him actually driving, for us fans to appreciate.
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dr-baker wrote:But I do see where you are coming from. It was an experience that not one of us whould want to go through, and if we did, we would want to put it past us and move on. Right?


Exactly. I recently watched a race that David took part in, off the top of my head, I think it was the ALMS series at Long Beach in (I think 2010). He was simply stunning in that race, taking the fight to the 'works' Aston Martin LMP1 cars. Personally I would rather remember David for stuff like that, above his time in F1.

dr-baker wrote:It is for those reasons that he may wish to forget that period, but I wish to remember him for it. Why? Simply because I am not sure I could have done what he did. I don't really have any heros or idols, but if I did, he would be one because of that.


Now that you have put things like that, I can see where you are coming from also. To which I am happy to agree with you.

Therefore perhaps it would be fair to remember David 'the person' more for the heroic way he acted during his time in F1. Another all time hero of mine is Jackie Stewart for simliar reasons.

Whislt perhaps remembering David 'the driver' for his stunning sportcar exploits. Which personally I find is easier to get more exicted about, than his F1 drives. Not least because we see more TV coverage of him actually driving, for us fans to appreciate.

Glad we reached a consensus! I am aware of his sportscar expoits via the pages of Autosport magazine, but have not been able to follow his exploits much on TV. He is certainly very talented and competitive from what I have read, more so than what his F1 results would show.
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I was writing an article earlier and struggled to remember who Timo Glock's last two team-mates in F1 were. That's how much of an impression Virgin/Marussia have made on the sport.
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ibsey wrote:Geoff Lees anyone?

I do love how in the 1980's we had such glamorously named drivers like, Geoff, Derek, Nigel, Brian (Henton) etc.

(apologies if anyone with these said names finds this offensive, it's only meant to be a giggle).


Reckon you could add Martin (Brundle) to that list too! :)

I love the fact there was someone called Horace (Gould) around in the 50s, what a great name!!!


There's another great uncool name from the early 80s though he didn't do much - Kevin (Cogan).

There are two more seriously uncool names I've just remembered and it's becuase the drivers in question were actually known by their middle names - Jackie Oliver was actually called Keith, but the best one for me is Graham Hill who was really called Norman. ;-)

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James1978 wrote:
ibsey wrote:Geoff Lees anyone?

I do love how in the 1980's we had such glamorously named drivers like, Geoff, Derek, Nigel, Brian (Henton) etc.

(apologies if anyone with these said names finds this offensive, it's only meant to be a giggle).


Reckon you could add Martin (Brundle) to that list too! :)

I love the fact there was someone called Horace (Gould) around in the 50s, what a great name!!!


There's another great uncool name from the early 80s though he didn't do much - Kevin (Cogan).


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I was listening to a Motorsport magazine podcast earlier today, and realised that I had totally forgotten that Derek Bell had been an F1 driver! I couldn't forget his sportscar success though...
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Rupert Keegan. Another one to add to both a forgettable driver & perhaps an uncool name.

Incidentially regarding F1 drivers who have uncool names. If that wasn't bad enough, on 'Time of Their Lives' a programme that was just on in the UK on Pick TV. They had Murray Walker, Nigel Mansell & Damon Hill all saying how difficult it was for British drivers with names like Nigel to raise sponsorship in comparison to say a Brazilian driver with an exotic name.
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ibsey wrote:Rupert Keegan. Another one to add to both a forgettable driver & perhaps an uncool name.

Incidentially regarding F1 drivers who have uncool names. If that wasn't bad enough, on 'Time of Their Lives' a programme that was just on in the UK on Pick TV. They had Murray Walker, Nigel Mansell & Damon Hill all saying how difficult it was for British drivers with names like Nigel to raise sponsorship in comparison to say a Brazilian driver with an exotic name.


How could I forget Rupert? And it's the same era as Nigel, Geoff, Derek, Brian etc!! :)
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James1978 wrote:
ibsey wrote:Rupert Keegan. Another one to add to both a forgettable driver & perhaps an uncool name.

Incidentially regarding F1 drivers who have uncool names. If that wasn't bad enough, on 'Time of Their Lives' a programme that was just on in the UK on Pick TV. They had Murray Walker, Nigel Mansell & Damon Hill all saying how difficult it was for British drivers with names like Nigel to raise sponsorship in comparison to say a Brazilian driver with an exotic name.


How could I forget Rupert? And it's the same era as Nigel, Geoff, Derek, Brian etc!! :)



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Although he didn't compete, Peter Monteverdi (he of the Onyx-then-Monteverdi fame) was entered for the 1961 German GP with his own machine http://www.statsf1.com/es/peter-monteverdi.aspx
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Davina Galica. One of TWO females drivers entered into the British GP of 1976 or 1977, alongside Lella Lombardi, but I can never remember her...
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dr-baker wrote:Divina Galica. One of TWO females drivers entered into the British GP of 1976 or 1977, alongside Lella Lombardi, but I can never remember her...


So forgettable you misspelled her name! :lol:

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dr-baker wrote:Divina Galica. One of TWO females drivers entered into the British GP of 1976 or 1977, alongside Lella Lombardi, but I can never remember her...


So forgettable you misspelled her name! :lol:

Wow. A girl I have not found divine... :o ;)
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Michael Bartels anyone? Failed to qualify 4 times in 1991 (seriously, had to look that stat up!)
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AdrianSutil wrote:Michael Bartels anyone? Failed to qualify 4 times in 1991 (seriously, had to look that stat up!)


I remembered him becuase he was dating Steffi Graf at the time. :)
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AdrianSutil wrote:Michael Bartels anyone? Failed to qualify 4 times in 1991 (seriously, had to look that stat up!)


I know that he was a driver simply because of my virtual career starting at 1991, and because I was using GP4, Lotus were always qualifiers.
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kostas22 wrote:Teo Fabi.

Presumably related to reject brother Corrado...


Didn't they have a rather curious arrangement where they shared an Alfa Romeo/Benetton drive (can't remember which). Memory says it was something to do with family business commitments but could be wrong.

One Fabi who was certainly talented was Bertrand Fabi, but the Canadian's career was tragically ended by a fatal F3 testing crash at Goodwood in early 1986 I think. I believe he slid off on ice.
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Blue Brazil wrote:Didn't they have a rather curious arrangement where they shared an Alfa Romeo/Benetton drive (can't remember which). Memory says it was something to do with family business commitments but could be wrong.

They shared a Brabham drive in 1984, as Teo was also committed to CART that year. Corrado eventually got to drive the Brabham three times when Teo's CART schedule clashed with F1.
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Thanks for the clarification. My memory isn't what it used to be. :(
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I honestly have loads of trouble trying to remember Naoki Hattori.Apart from Dome F1.
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WaffleCat wrote:I honestly have loads of trouble trying to remember Naoki Hattori.

Me too.
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WaffleCat wrote:I honestly have loads of trouble trying to remember Naoki Hattori.

Remember him? I can barely pronounce it.

Anyway, earlier I was sat trying to remember Villeneuves team mate in '99 and '00. Ricardo Zonta, Im so ashamed I forgot you. Particulary since you spun off right in front of me at Silverstone '00. I guess thats showbiz.
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CoopsII wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:I honestly have loads of trouble trying to remember Naoki Hattori.

Remember him? I can barely pronounce it.

Anyway, earlier I was sat trying to remember Villeneuves team mate in '99 and '00. Ricardo Zonta, Im so ashamed I forgot you. Particulary since you spun off right in front of me at Silverstone '00. I guess thats showbiz.

If Hakkinen had not overtaken Schumacher when the bot were lapping Zonta at Spa '00, I would not remember him too. ;)
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CoopsII wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:I honestly have loads of trouble trying to remember Naoki Hattori.

Remember him? I can barely pronounce it.

Anyway, earlier I was sat trying to remember Villeneuves team mate in '99 and '00. Ricardo Zonta, Im so ashamed I forgot you. Particulary since you spun off right in front of me at Silverstone '00. I guess thats showbiz.


I just remember Zonta for the enormous accident he had a penchant of having :lol:
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Oscar Larrauri
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Johnny Dumfries
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Erik Comas

Dumfries was so forgettable I had to search 'Ayrton Senna's team mate in 1986'.
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Charles Pic :D

I have a strong suspicion we're not going to notice him very often.
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This wrote:Charles Pic :D

I have a strong suspicion we're not going to notice him very often.

This is what happens to each Virgin's second driver.
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Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
This wrote:Charles Pic :D

I have a strong suspicion we're not going to notice him very often.

This is what happens to each Virgin's second driver.


We noticed D'Ambrosio. Specially in Hungary...
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Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
This wrote:Charles Pic :D

I have a strong suspicion we're not going to notice him very often.

This is what happens to each Virgin's second driver.


We noticed D'Ambrosio. Specially in Hungary...

You're right, but we noticed him just once throughout all 2011 season. ;-)
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DanielPT wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
This wrote:Charles Pic :D

I have a strong suspicion we're not going to notice him very often.

This is what happens to each Virgin's second driver.


We noticed D'Ambrosio. Only in Hungary...


Fixed.

What about Danny Ongais, the guy who's so forgettable his profile here keeps being delayed time and time again? :lol:
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No-one seems to have mentioned Robert Doornbos here, presumably because everyone's forgotten about him...
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Hey, he'll never be forgotten and I want him back! :twisted:

Although I have to admit, he did little memorable while in Formula One.
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tc3j3r wrote:No-one seems to have mentioned Robert Doornbos here, presumably because everyone's forgotten about him...

You're right, he was quite forgettable...
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Jean-Marc Gounon did little to be remembered.
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tc3j3r wrote:No-one seems to have mentioned Robert Doornbos here, presumably because everyone's forgotten about him...


Him and his team mates at Minardi in 2005 were all pretty forgettable. There were two others through the season weren't there? Patrick Freisacher and someone else?

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MansellsEyebrows wrote:
tc3j3r wrote:No-one seems to have mentioned Robert Doornbos here, presumably because everyone's forgotten about him...


Him and his team mates at Minardi in 2005 were all pretty forgettable. There were two others through the season weren't there? Patrick Freisacher and someone else?

*Resists temptation to Wikipedia it to prove point to ones self*

I had to think for about 10 seconds before I remembered Christijan Albers. The one who drove off in France 07 for Spyker with the fuel hose still attatched.
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So, he is forgotten after all :( - his Red Bull-drives wasn't even mentioned.
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tc3j3r wrote:
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tc3j3r wrote:No-one seems to have mentioned Robert Doornbos here, presumably because everyone's forgotten about him...


Him and his team mates at Minardi in 2005 were all pretty forgettable. There were two others through the season weren't there? Patrick Freisacher and someone else?

*Resists temptation to Wikipedia it to prove point to ones self*

I had to think for about 10 seconds before I remembered Christijan Albers. The one who drove off in France 07 for Spyker with the fuel hose still attatched.

Doornbos wasn't Friesacher team mate... it was Albers/Friesacher first, and then Albers/Doornbos...
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I remember Robert Doornbos for having a very wide head. And for being known as "Doorknobs".
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