2012 Malaysia Grand Prix Discussion Thread

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Mar 2012, 16:43

Go home Felipe Massa. I have to agree with the Italian press, it's time to get rid of him and put someone competent in the second Ferrari.

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 24 Mar 2012, 16:58

mario wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
F1000X wrote:Agreed. Schumi will make such a demon start that he and Hamilton will take each other off at the first corner, starting a season-long feud, that will open the door for Jenson to win.

OR, much more likely, Schumacher starts out strongly but as his tyres wear down - and the W03 seems to get through its tyres as rapidly as the W02 - his pace is likely to fade away and he is forced into a premature pitstop. The question, though, is how much of an impact Schumacher will have had on the race by that point - McLaren will probably hope that their drivers manage to hold Schumacher off at the start and that they can be out of DRS range, leaving Schumacher to fight with the Red Bull drivers.

On a different note, curiously Bruno Senna has been discussing various strategy options ahead of the race, commenting that he believes that, contrary to Pirelli's previous comments, that a two stop strategy would be better than three stops. In effect, he seems to be implying that he will go for a two stopper - mentioning how good his car is at managing its tyres and discussing a two stopper in the same sentence - and that sort of candid comments seems a little odd given how most teams are normally so secretive about their strategies. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98344

Or its a bluff and he's 3 stopping but wanting the cars around him to assume he's two stopping.

Or its a double bluff and he's hoping that the cars around him think that he wants them to think he's two stopping, but that he's actually three stopping, but actually he's two stopping.

Or its a triple bluff..............

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 24 Mar 2012, 17:21

Wizzie wrote:The longer this goes on, the more and more convinced I become that Rosberg has Fisichellitis

He was stuck at Williams too long and Mercedes took too long to produce a top car. I think he's beyond hope now.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 24 Mar 2012, 19:47

I would not be at all surprised to see Schumacher leading off the line tomorrow, given his much-commented-on ability at starts since his return, and the length of the first straight coupled with the Mercedes' straightline speed.

I can't see him winning the race, however. Mind you, if it rains...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 24 Mar 2012, 19:51

IdeFan wrote:Or its a bluff and he's 3 stopping but wanting the cars around him to assume he's two stopping.

Or its a double bluff and he's hoping that the cars around him think that he wants them to think he's two stopping, but that he's actually three stopping, but actually he's two stopping.

Or its a triple bluff..............

I think I know what you think I think I know you think that I think to know that you think what I think, which is that I think I understand your thinking.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 24 Mar 2012, 20:23

Klon wrote:
Wizzie wrote:The longer this goes on, the more and more convinced I become that Rosberg has Fisichellitis

Thank you, it's good to know that I am not the only one thinking this.

I am also thinking about this... I've been noticing that Rosberg seem to be crumbling under pressure and that, after no expectations at all last year while decimating Schumacher in qualification, he is now 2 up in said comparison. Let's see a bit more, but I say he has pretty much all the symptoms...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Mar 2012, 00:02

I reckon Rosberg's best year was his first, and has slowly slipped away from his early promise as each season goes by. Sad really.

Edit: Thinking about it quickly, he totally destroyed KazNak in 2009 which got him that Merc drive the next year. But for sure, his early promise has certainly vanished recently.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 Mar 2012, 00:06

Klon wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I just think the Mercedes car is useless.

So useless that Schumacher can haul it into third place.

Well, he is Michael Schumacher, after all...

Eryx · Post by **Eryx** » 25 Mar 2012, 00:38

put someone competent in the ferrari?

*coph*

Luca
*coph*
Badoer.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Mar 2012, 00:45

AdrianSutil wrote:I reckon Rosberg's best year was his first, and has slowly slipped away from his early promise as each season goes by. Sad really.

Edit: Thinking about it quickly, he totally destroyed KazNak in 2009 which got him that Merc drive the next year. But for sure, his early promise has certainly vanished recently.

Nakajima was hopeless though and did not deserve to be in F1 at all. I really can't understand why Williams went for Toyota engines, only to be forced to run him as part of the deal! Crazy!

On Rosberg though, I think he certainly hasn't lived up to any of the hype that's followed him around, and I don't think he ever will. He's another average midfield driver that on a good day will sneak a podium, if the car is good enough. He certainly doesn't have the talent to put an average car towards the sharp end of the field, and has only managed it with Mercedes during their debut year in 2010, when pretty much anyone could end up on the podium!

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 25 Mar 2012, 02:09

Well,got more signatures in today,including.....GGGGRRRRSSSSJJJJNNNN!My little bit knowledge of French helped there.

Row Man Gross-Gene · Post by **Row Man Gross-Gene** » 25 Mar 2012, 02:29

WaffleCat wrote:Well,got more signatures in today,including.....GGGGRRRRSSSSJJJJNNNN!My little bit knowledge of French helped there.

Nice

Post by **tommykl** » 25 Mar 2012, 05:59

Klon wrote:
IdeFan wrote:Or its a bluff and he's 3 stopping but wanting the cars around him to assume he's two stopping.

Or its a double bluff and he's hoping that the cars around him think that he wants them to think he's two stopping, but that he's actually three stopping, but actually he's two stopping.

Or its a triple bluff..............

I think I know what you think I think I know you think that I think to know that you think what I think, which is that I think I understand your thinking.

I don't think you know what you think you know baby
But baby don't you think that I know what I know maybe.
Baby I know what you think that I don't know
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 Mar 2012, 07:11

Well, the race will be starting soon so i will be in a forum ban until about 4pm when the BBC have finished showing the highlights. Couple of quick predictions: Button to win again. Ferrari to fail badly. Lotus to do very well. Neither HRT lasting half-distance, sadly. Speak later

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 07:23

Gotta love Kimi :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 07:58

Dear Bernie

Please tie Charlie up so we don't have ultra-conservative SC decisions yet again.

Sincerely, all F1 fans everywhere :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:05

Now THIS is what a wet first lap should be like

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:06

Sorry for the spam but someone HAS to explain to the muppets on ONE that the track is getting wetter, not drier

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:09

Now that is PROPERLY wet. Perez on full wets, everyone else on inters

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:10

Wizzie wrote:Sorry for the spam but someone HAS to explain to the muppets on ONE that the track is getting wetter, not drier

And that the Red Bull getting a good start is Vettel. No, hang on a minute - the unthinkable has happened!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:11

And Grosjean has binned it for the third time today :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:14

You know, I'd rather have no commentary than having to listen to Incopetence Inc over at ONE HD :lol:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:15

I'd just like to point out that in this broadcast so far ONE have had themselves, the BBC and Sky all commentating. None are working at the moment. Good stuff you useless bathplugs...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:15

the Masked Lapwing wrote:I'd just like to point out that in this broadcast so far ONE have had themselves, the BBC and Sky all commentating. None are working at the moment. Good stuff you useless bathplugs...

Should have just left it on the Beeb just for the lulz :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:16

PEREZ P3!

EDIT: And out old friend the SC has made its first appearance of the afternoon

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:17

Karthikeyan is in 8th.

:shock:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:18

No red flag. Thank HWNSNBM :mrgreen:

Malinth · Post by **Malinth** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:18

Narain in tenth! You don't know how bad I'm chuckling! XD

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:19

Perez in 3rd!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:21

I think we could have another 2009

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:22

Malinth wrote:Narain in tenth! You don't know how bad I'm chuckling! XD

Make that 9th for when Vergne inevitably bins it on the inters :lol:

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:22

This is worth being up at 4:30am.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:24

DAMMIT!!!!!!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:24

Red flag. Ah bath plug.

Post by **mario** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:24

Malinth wrote:Narain in tenth! You don't know how bad I'm chuckling! XD

All from gambling on those wet tyres at the start - I thought that the team were making a bad choice at the time given that the track didn't look wet enough, but now it looks like an inspired choice. Especially now Whiting seems to be throwing a red flag...

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:25

Karthekayan channeling Winkelhock in this 'ere race! Good work from the drivers though, except Grosjean, early ROTR for me there

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:26

Malinth wrote:Narain in tenth! You don't know how bad I'm chuckling! XD

Seconded. This is incredible!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:26

Seriously, what is the point of having full wets if they are going to stop the race every time they're used? Oh right, the pre/post red flag safety car periods...

Post by **mario** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:26

Wizzie wrote:Red flag. Ah bath plug.

You do realise that, if the race doesn't restart, that HRT will get half a point...

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 25 Mar 2012, 08:26

Prepare the Magnums. :geek: