F1RMGP presents: The 24 Hour V8 Bathurst Enduro 2014

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 15:13

Formula One Rejects is, ultimately, an Australian organisation. The F1RMGP season ends in Australia. V8 Supercars is a popular racing series, even amongst non-Australian reject fans. And there are always clamours for more "outside involvement" in F1RMGP. Hence, the solution was obvious - with the teams winding down the season in Australia, it would make sense for some of them to stay there for a while, and to have a final season-ending extravaganza that is...

THE 24 HOUR V8 BATHURST ENDURO!

It is intended that, not only will the cream of the F1RMGP crop be competing, but drivers from other series will be invited to try their hands against them. Potential F1RMGP prospects, F1RWRS drivers and teams, and also those from F1RGP2C, the REECCS, and even defunct series whose Series Managements have decamped to a sunny beach in Barbados are all encouraged to apply.

As ever, there are front-runners and backmarkers, even in a series where the cars are all very evenly matched, and as such, a points system is in place, which is allocated on a "per garage" basis. Each garage consists of one car and three drivers, who will be driving approximately two-hour stints. There are 26 garages; 24 of these belong to the works V8 Supercar teams that are lending their cars to the series. Eight of those are Holden Commodores, eight are Ford Falcons, eight are Nissan GT-Rs - the remaining two can be filled by pretty much anything, but the points restrictions are rather tighter. One of each car will be driven by "the teams to beat" - the highest ranked they may be, but over a 24-hour race, victory is far from certain (as two of the Audis at Le Mans in 2011 will testify). The second garages are also occupied, almost - two of the teams currently entered in those slots are still looking for a third driver, and will only be too happy to appoint a Team Manager who can suggest a driver who will fit the bill.

The points and garages system:

Each team is allocated a number of points, depending on which garage they're in - the higher the number, the lower the number of points available. Cars are rated out of 100 for both power and reliability, drivers are rated out of 100 for both skill and consistency. However, nobody outside the F1RMGP Series Management knows exactly how the points translate to on-track performance; it's a secret guarded even more closely than the recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken and Coca-Cola mixed together. As a guide, the highest and lowest ranked cars in F1RMGP 2014 were those of Viking Racing and Genii Team Malaysia, with ratings of P80/R90 and P32/R16 respectively. The Viking was not the most powerful car in the field, and the GTM was not the least powerful, and neither was GTM the lowest ranked team as a whole, when the drivers were included. As for the drivers, the hapless Christophe Hurni was rated S21/C16, whereas a high-ranking driver who is not about to be announced as one of the drivers filling the Enduro garages would be Luca Badoer, rated S70/C53, and who was ranked second for skill (as for who is top... that can't be revealed).

Garages are indicated as H1, F2, N3 etc. according to car type and ranking. The #1 garages have an allocation of 480 points, and each garage below decreases in maximum points by 15 (hence, #2 = 465, #3 = 450, etc) down to 375 points for the #8 garages. The remaining two, known as the #9 garages X9 and Y9, have a free choice of car (for instance, they could both be Holdens, both be Nissans, or there could be an experimental prototype of some description) but will only be allocated 360 points and are likely, although far from certain, to be last. There will, however, be no non-qualifiers; 26 cars are available, 26 cars could be in the race if there is enough take-up. The skill here lies in the points allocation - do not despair if you're in garage 4 or 5, the right allocation of points, whether it's to a powerful car, a reliable car or a beltingly good driver, could be what saves the day.

The "top three" teams will all be driving completely standard cars. The Nissan is the fastest but, being the newcomer to V8 Supercars, less reliable (P80/R20), the Ford is the least powerful but damn near bomb-proof (P20/R80), whereas the Holden sits in the middle of both statistics (P50/R50). Hence, taking a completely standard car will allocate 100 points of your budget. Team Managers may do a bit of tweaking to their cars to change their statistics - give it some more power, or fit some experimental parts that will decrease reliability but could ultimately benefit - but neither power nor reliability can be adjusted by more than 20 points either way, hence no rating can be above 100 or below 0. Also, a power rating of 100 does not mean an unbeatable rocket ship, a power rating of 0 does not mean the car will not move, a reliability rating of 100 does not guarantee a problem-free race, and a reliability rating of 0 does not mean certain retirement. A further adjustment that is possible is that points can be allocated to give the car an extra boost in qualifying - but those will count to the final total, and there's only one qualifying session - don't forget that.

Likewise, drivers can be tweaked, should they be picked from the F1RMGP seasons. Drivers can be given "a bit of training" to increase their skill or consistency ratings, or "kneecapped" to decrease them if the required car-plus-three-drivers combination will not fit into the points allocation. However, no driver statistics from the F1RMGP seasons can be adjusted to more than 10 points above or below the level that they finished the season at (which is what is going to be given below). Drivers from other series should be allocated statistics fitting with their performances there; hence, I'd expect to see the likes of Nathanael Spencer and Phillippe Nicolas, for instance, given high stats, and the jokers at the wrong end of the grid - Giovanni Roda and Sebastian Gazurek, I'm looking in your direction - given suitably rejectful ratings. For the record, the highest ranked driver over all F1RMGP and WEC seasons has 148 points, whereas the lowest has a mere 36. Speculation as to who owns these statistics will be met with disinterested silence. EDIT: Hologrammatic drivers are available, but as the F1RMGP Hologram Projection Unit can only sustain two drivers at any one time, two is the maximum number that can be entered in the entire grid.

The entry procedure:

Slots on the grid will be allocated in the order of who posts first, and according to what car is being used, and - crucially - whether or not the entry is complete. A complete entry consists of:
- an intention to fill a particular garage (e.g. "H3")
- a team name, which does not necessarily have to be one from any existing series, but it can be
- a car number (from 1 to 40, of those that are not already taken)
- the car is determined by what garage the team slots in (i.e. a Holden in garage H3), but any tweaking of the car's stats (P/R ±20, or a qualifying adjustment) should be given
- three drivers, along with their stats - whether they're F1RMGP drivers with tweaked stats (S/C ±10) or drivers from other series, in which case the stats should be given from scratch
- an acknowledgement that the total points of the team has not exceeded the maximum for that garage (i.e. put the total in).

There is no obligation to use all the points available, it's just that I suggest that you do. One of the teams in one of the #2 garages won't be using all theirs, and they're just fine with that.

Incomplete entries will not be accepted until they're complete. So, if you're trying to book Ford garage F4, for instance, and don't supply a car number or get the stats wrong, you'll not be booked into F4. Should someone else put in a complete application for F4, it'll be accepted and you'll be bumped down to F5, with the concomitant loss of 15 points to allocate to the team, which will also have to be accounted for.

EDIT: having already had one forum member submit two teams, the rule will be that the teams cannot be on the same garage tier. A second team must be at least one level below the first, and a third (perish the thought, I'm trying to get some competition here) must be at least two below the second.

The entry list is open and will remain open until 28th April, GMT+1 - at that time the list will close, whether or not there are 26 cars on the grid.

The race:

This section is what I'd usually term as a "real-life interlude": suffice to say that I will be posting updates of the race every day from 1st - 12th May, showing the standings at approximately two-hour intervals. Driver changes will be accounted for, but I'm not saying how. And, with a bit of luck, this will look like a proper race.

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ENTRANTS:

(organised by garage, this will be updated as more entries are submitted)

H1 (480 pts): 1 - VIKING RACING - Þorvaldur Einarsson, Jan Magnussen, Stefan Johansson
H2 (465 pts): 11 - VALKYRIE RACING - Emma Kimiläinen, Nettan Lindgren, Ramona Karlsson
H3 (450 pts): 27 - SCUDERIA ALITALIA ANDREA COLONI (kostas22) - Gabriele Tarquini, Enrico Bertaggia, "Fat" Tony D'Alberto
H4 (435 pts): 36 - TEAM ULTIMATE (Shadaza) - Ana Beatriz, Cave Johnson, Sebastian Prost
H5 (420 pts): 12 - RED BULL WORLD RACE TEAM (eurobrun) - Jason Hamilton, Mika Paasonen, Dieter Hallenstein
H6 (405 pts): 2 - HOLDEN RACING TEAM (The Masked Lapwing) - Rhys Davies, Frank Zimmer, Nick Percat
H7 (390 pts): 25 - GILLET ECURIE NATIONALE BELGE (tommykl) - Thomas De Bock, Aurelien Moll, Laurent Seron
H8 (375 pts): 20 - FOXDALE AUTO RACING TEAM (dr-baker) - Susie Wolff, Pippa Mann, Ben Fleet

F1 (480 pts): 9 - FORMULA ONE REJECTS MOTORSPORT - HWNSNBM, Chris Dagnall, Jean-Denis Délétraz
F2 (465 pts): 23 - SCUDERIA MINARDIVAS (This) - Vanina Ickx, Simona de Silvestro, Michèle Mouton
F3 (450 pts): 32 - APOLLONIA GT RACING BY HYDOOK (Pointrox) - Marko Asmer, Mirko Bosevic, Plamen Kralev
F4 (435 pts): 21 - ZOMBIE CONGLOMERATE (tristan1117) - Jesus Plaza, Dan Greenlaw, Peter Senerson
F5 (420 pts): 19 - VIRGIN MELROSE RACING TEAM (Wizzie) - Daniel Melrose, Dean O'Lauchlan, Mitchell Macklin
F6 (405 pts): 6 - GULF FORD RACING TEAM (MinardiFan95) - Dave Simpson, Rick Simpson, Alex Yoong
F7 (390 pts): 29 - VIRGIN MELROSE RACING TEAM B (Wizzie) - Vidal Reyna-Sanchez, João Cavalcanti, Antonio Reyna-Sanchez
F8 (375 pts): 34 - PSYCHO SOLDIERS (FMecha) - Hitoshi Ogawa (H), Yuka Katayama, Yuri Mitsui

N1 (480 pts): 8 - SUPER AGURI ENDURO - Yuji Ide, Shinji Nakano, Ukyo Katayama
N2 (465 pts): 40 - LEYTON DOME ENGINEERING - Hideki Noda, Marco Apicella, Bruno Giacomelli
N3 (450 pts): 7 - TEAM JAMES DAVIES (BlindCaveSalamander) - James Davies I, James Davies II, James Davies III
N4 (435 pts): 17 - AERORACING ENGINEERING (Phoenix) - Phoenix McAllister, Niko Bellic, Rory McAllister
N5 (420 pts): 15 - PAC RACING TEAM (FMecha) - Hiroto Tojo, Steven Mackintosh, Timo Glock
N6 (405 pts): 33 - TEAM SUNSHINE INFINITI (DanielPT) - Shinobu Katayama, Kay Lon, Fabrizio Barbazza
N7 (390 pts): 31 - TELECOM ITALIA TRUEBA CORSE (kostas22) - Fabrizio Giovanardi, Giovanni Roda, Giovanna Amati
N8 (375 pts): 4 - AUTOBACS NIPPON RACING TEAM (eurobrun) - Koudai Tsukakoshi, Kazuya Oshima, Jonathan Cochet

X9 (360 pts): 22 - WEST CLIFF RACING / DeLorean DMC-12 (dr-baker) - Martin McFry, Douglas Mann, Alice Powell
Y9 (360 pts): 13 - CILLIT BANG! TRABANT FACTORY TEAM / Trabant 601 (This) - Perry McCarthy, Pedro Chaves, Roberto Moreno

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Apr 2012, 15:46

Looking forward to this. Just to say that I intend to take either garage X9 or Y9 once entries open!

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 15:55

The teams to beat:

In garage H1, with car #1, current F1RMGP Constructors' Champions Viking Racing have opted for the safety-net both ways of the Holden Commodore, which they will be running in absolute standard spec, so confident are they in their drivers' abilities. Newly-crowned Drivers' Champion Þorvaldur Einarsson and perennial runner-up Jan Magnussen will be joined in the cockpit by Earthly Team Principal and former F1 Star In A Reject Car (see 1989), Stefan Johansson.

In garage F1, with car #9, the "home team" Formula One Rejects Motorsport are following much the same path as Viking; taking a standard-spec Ford Falcon, it will be driven by 2013 Drivers' Champion Chris Dagnall, trying to make a fine ending to a tough 2014 season, and Jean-Denis Délétraz, trying to rescue his reputation. And who else could they possibly choose for the third driver slot than twice champion turned team co-boss, the one and only, the legend that is HWNSNBM, returning to driving after a two-season absence.

In garage N1, with car #8, leading the Japanese charge is slightly-renamed F1RMGP team Super Aguri Enduro, who will run a Nissan GT-R straight out of the factory. But! While 2014 drivers Yuji Ide and Shinji Nakano will be filling two of the driver slots, the only Japanese driver not poached by another team was Kazuki Nakajima... and Aguri Suzuki didn't fancy putting him in the seat. Also ruling out driving himself, preferring to cheer on his car from the stands, Suzuki remembered the shootout he'd held at the end of the 2013 season - and decided that the ideal driver to fill the third space was Ukyo Katayama, not yet seen in any other F1RMGP competition. Until now, that is.

In garage H2, with car #11, running the second Holden is the semi-official Viking subsidiary, Valkyrie Racing. Seeing her potential in a reticent 2013-spec Simtek in the WEC, Valkyrie have appointed Finnish rising star Emma Kimiläinen, to be partnered by the hot-headed Swedish touring car driver, Nettan Lindgren. Hell hath no fury like a woman rammed, said Murray Walker one day. In the third seat, after an extensive search for the finest Nordic driver available, will be rally driver Ramona Karlsson. This is an interesting blend of motorsport disciplines.

In garage N2, with car #40, comes the gestält entity that is Leyton Dome Engineering - formed from a temporary merger of Leyton House, with their Suzuki connections, and Dome, who have had their fingers in both the Honda and Toyota pies in the past, and now they're all here together running a Nissan. With no place for Emanuele Naspetti after his disastrous F1RMGP season for Dome, the LDE Nissan will be driven by Hideki Noda, Marco Apicella and the outgoing Bruno Giacomelli, giving himself one last shot at glory. LDE, incidentally, have been given the second-ranked Nissan as they are not an all-Japanese team, whereas Super Aguri have been almost eye-wateringly nationalistic in securing their place at the top.

Garage F2 is, temporarily, filled by a wild card entry from Scuderia Minardivas, who have been allocated car #23 (for now), parallel to the origins of their 2013 Minardi. As the 2014 WEC Teams' Champions, they are granted automatic entry to this race - it just needs confirmation from the Team Manager, the Belgian known only as This. Minardivas have been granted use of the #2 Ford - they don't have to use it, but must be warned that switching to a Holden or a Nissan will require them to drop to the #3 garages (or further down, if those are already filled). Drivers' Champion Vanina Ickx and runner-up Simona de Silvestro are provisionally pencilled in for two of the race seats, leaving a massive 133 points to be allocated to a third driver, and any required car tweaks.

Now all I need to do is present the F1RMGP driver statistics, and the entry list will be open. Give me a mo... (EDIT: give me more than a mo! I have to tabulate them using code tags in plain text, the way I do with race results... and that'll take a while. Bear with me..)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 10 Apr 2012, 16:52

Garage H3
Scuderia Alitalia Andrea Coloni
Car #27 // Holden Commodore (P60/R50)

DRIVERS
Scuderia Alitalia Andrea Coloni have surprised many by leaving their regular drivers at home and resorting to stealing Italians from other teams! I get the feeling the new management for this weekend are well versed in underhanded tactics. This comes after Enzo Coloni mysteriously went missing, and Andrea Sassetti drafted in Scuderia Alitalia CEO Alasdair Lindsay to take his place. There are unconfirmed reports that the AGS and EuroBrun team principals have been taken out by Camorra hitmen...
The third driver was a mistake by new co-boss Lindsay - Tony D'Alberto was hired by the team on the assumption he was another one of the many Camorra cronies involved in Lindsay's racing business, however it turns out he's some Aussie pay-driver who is hopeless at racing.

Gabriele Tarquini (113 + 10 extra skill = 123 total)
Enrico Bertaggia (99 base + 10 extra skill + 10 extra consistency = 119 total)
"Fat Tony" D'Alberto (54 skill + 44 consistency = 98 total)

TOTAL POINTS USED 450/450

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:04

OK, I am going to copy kostas and start to reveal my hand:

- an intention to fill a particular garage (e.g. "H3")
X9

- a team name, which does not necessarily have to be one from any existing series, but it can be
West Cliff Racing (an old F1RWRS team is reborn!)

- a car number (from 1 to 40, of those that are not already taken)
22

- the car is determined by what garage the team slots in (i.e. a Holden in garage H3), but any tweaking of the car's stats (P/R ±20, or a qualifying adjustment) should be given
DeLorean (using the oppotunity to bring in a fourth manufacturer)

- three drivers, along with their stats - whether they're F1RMGP drivers with tweaked stats (S/C ±10) or drivers from other series, in which case the stats should be given from scratch
Martin McFry
Douglas Mann
Pippa Mann

- an acknowledgement that the total points of the team has not exceeded the maximum for that garage (i.e. put the total in).
Not yet possible

I assume the 360 points is to cover the car AND all 3 drivers, right?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:05

Might as well make my reservations as well.

Arriving from Super Aguri's unnamed championship are The Fighting Mongooses, with the intention of filling garge F3, and running car number 39. Their drivers are Ryan McReynolds and Theodore Roos, as to be expected, with Dante Zetticci also joining them, apparently?

And... what the bloody hell is this? It looks like a horrible combination of a phone booth and a DeLorean... and out of the doors comes James Davies! ... and another James Davies... and another one? They appear to be from different realities and time periods; we can tell from the McLaren firesuit and self-aggrandizing speech that the first is from tristan1117's GP2 Championship, circa 1995. Next is an older James Davies, he seems somewhat more perplexed and is wearing a Mecha Grand Prix firesuit - ah, yes, it's 2014 James Davies from the F1RWRS and REECCS! I'd forgotten he existed! And finally, the last James Davies appears to be wearing a firesuit emblazoned with the Union Jack and about 50 million tiny, illegible sponsors... it seems he races in NASCAR in 2003? Well, we'll have to take his word on that - there doesn't seem to be any evidence of this anywhere ever.

They'll be signing up under the name Team James Davies... bit obvious, I suppose, running car number 7 from garage N3.

If I can only have 1 entry, it'll be Team James Davies. I had way too much fun thinking that up.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:21

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Gilles Villeneuve (H)     88   50   138
Michèle Mouton            65   67   132
Sabine Schmitz            69   61   130
Pedro Diniz               71   58   129
Alice Powell              63   64   127
Andrea Montermini         63   64   127
Michael Andretti          71   53   124
Luca Badoer               70   53   123
Marko Asmer               63   60   123
Danica Patrick            64   58   122
Pedro Chaves              63   57   120
Sarah Fisher              55   63   118

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Allan McNish              51   66   117
Pierre-Henri Raphanel     44   70   114
Rrrrrmmmnn Grrrrjjjjnnn   60   53   113
Perry McCarthy            58   55   113
Ralph Firman              56   57   113
Gabriele Tarquini         55   58   113
Ana Beatriz               58   54   112
Divina Galica             60   51   111
Slim Borgudd              62   47   109
Natacha Gachnang          52   56   108
Scott Speed               61   45   106
Nelson Piquet Jr.         62   43   105

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Susie Wolff               57   48   105
Fabrizio Barbazza         53   52   105
James Hunt (H)            72   32   104
Roberto Moreno            56   48   104
Giovanna Amati            42   62   104
Rahel Frey                56   46   102
Amber Cope                54   48   102
Angela Cope               54   48   102
Claudio Langes            43   57   100
Lella Lombardi (H)        64   35   99
Enrico Bertaggia          44   55   99
Vincenzo Sospiri          52   46   98

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Cyndie Allemann           51   47   98
Jutta Kleinschmidt        59   36   95
Paul Belmondo             49   46   95
Natasha Firman            39   54   93
Keiko Ihara               55   36   91
Joachim Winkelhock        51   40   91
Alex Yoong                44   47   91
Fairuz Fauzy              31   60   91
Philippe Alliot           48   42   90
Emanuele Naspetti         47   42   89
Milka Duno                41   48   89
Jimmie Johnson            52   36   88

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Kazuki Nakajima           26   62   88
Pippa Mann                55   32   87
Pierluigi Martini         48   39   87
Ralf Schumacher           66   19   85
Taki Inoue                43   42   85
Katherine Legge           51   33   84
Michele Bumgarner         31   53   84
Plamen Kralev             27   57   84
Jacques Villeneuve        33   50   83
Volker Weidler            41   42   83
Johnny Carwash            37   45   82
Piercarlo Ghinzani        48   31   79

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Stéphane Sarrazin         42   36   78
Gregor Foitek             41   37   78
Olivier Beretta           37   41   78
Yuri Mitsui               35   43   78
Gary Brabham              42   35   77
Ricardo Teixeira          25   51   76
Ricardo Rosset            41   34   75
Olivier Grouillard        43   29   72
Kazumi Mikami             41   30   71
François Hesnault         33   36   69
Esteban Tuero             40   24   64
Junko Mihara              31   32   63

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                         SKL  CON  TOTAL
Andrea Chiesa             37   23   60
Pippa Cow                 26   25   51
Christophe Hurni          21   16   37
Karen Andrews             17   19   36

The entry list is now open. Those of you who have posted before had better get in quick with your full entry, because none of what you've posted yet is official. Still... dr-baker is unlikely to be challenged for garage X9!

dr-baker wrote:I assume the 360 points is to cover the car AND all 3 drivers, right?

Correct. And now that this has been cleared up - you (having selected Pippa Mann) and kostas22 (ditto Tarquini and Bertaggia) now know your drivers' statistics, and can make the entry official.

Something tells me I may not have to keep the entry list open for as long as intended. However, I thought this might happen:

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Arriving from Super Aguri's unnamed championshp are The Fighting Mongooses, with the intention of filling garge F3, and running car number 39. Their drivers are Ryan McReynolds and Theodore Roos, as to be expected, with Dante Zetticci also joining them, apparently?

And... what the bloody hell is this? It looks like a horrible combination of a phone booth and a DeLorean... and out of the doors comes James Davies! ... and another James Davies... and another one? They appear to be from different realities and time periods; we can tell from the McLaren firesuit and self-aggrandizing speech that the first is from tristan1117's GP2 Championship, circa 1995. Next is an older James Davies, he seems somewhat more perplexed and is wearing a Mecha Grand Prix firesuit - ah, yes, it's 2014 James Davies from the F1RWRS and REECCS! I'd forgotten he existed! And finally, the last James Davies appears to be wearing a firesuit emblazoned with the Union Jack and about 50 million tiny, illegible sponsors... it seems he races in NASCAR in 2003? Well, we'll have to take his word on that - there doesn't seem to be any evidence of this anywhere ever.

They'll be signing up under the name Team James Davies... bit obvious, I suppose, running car number 7 from garage N3.

I was thinking of having a "one team per forum member" rule... - then, if there weren't enough entries and the closing date was getting near, it could be opened up further to those who have a car on the grid already. However, as a compromise, I'll say that a second team must be at least one garage below the first. And let's not have three teams from the same forumite, if possible, but a third team must be two garages below the second.

Hence, I'd accept Team James Davies (after the "proper" submission with all the stats worked out) in N4 if The Fighting Mongooses stayed in F3, and vice versa for an F4/N3 combination. It's up to you to work out which one might be more effective.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:24

Oh, and, need I mention it further? The Hologram rule applies. Currently there are none loaded into the machine, Lella Lombardi having been switched off at the end of the 2014 WEC season, but only two can compete in this race at the maximum.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:35

[Blanking stupid question I now know the answer to]

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:43

dinizintheoven wrote:I was thinking of having a "one team per forum member" rule... - then, if there weren't enough entries and the closing date was getting near, it could be opened up further to those who have a car on the grid already. However, as a compromise, I'll say that a second team must be at least one garage below the first. And let's not have three teams from the same forumite, if possible, but a third team must be two garages below the second.

Hence, I'd accept Team James Davies (after the "proper" submission with all the stats worked out) in N4 if The Fighting Mongooses stayed in F3, and vice versa for an F4/N3 combination. It's up to you to work out which one might be more effective.

No problems, I'll have Team James Davies in N3, and switch The Fighting Mongooses over to H5. If there are more people signing up than there are places, I'll gladly drop TFM further down the order, or even out altogether.

Here are my points for each team

Team James Davies: 450 points
Car
Power: 80
Reliability: 30
Car Total: 110

1995 James Davies
Skill: 81
Consistency: 52
1995 James Davies Total: 133

2003 James Davies
Skill: 53
Consistency: 37
2003 James Davies Total: 90

2014 James Davies
Skill: 49
Consistency: 68
2014 James Davies Total: 117

110+133+90+117 = 450

EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, I'll just stick with Team James Davies.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:44

You should put Michèle Mouton on the third Minardivas seat (to make that team strong).

I will make an official entry tonight.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:50

Going to steal Dr-Bakers form.

- an intention to fill a particular garage (e.g. "H3")
N3

- a team name, which does not necessarily have to be one from any existing series, but it can be
Team Ultimate

- a car number (from 1 to 40, of those that are not already taken)
36

- the car is determined by what garage the team slots in (i.e. a Holden in garage H3), but any tweaking of the car's stats (P/R ±20, or a qualifying adjustment) should be given
Nissan p-5 R+5 (am I going it right)

- three drivers, along with their stats - whether they're F1RMGP drivers with tweaked stats (S/C ±10) or drivers from other series, in which case the stats should be given from scratch
Ana Beatriz
Cave Johnson (Rejects Live for Speed Champion) Skill 50 Consistency 60
Sebastian Prost (Rejects Live for Speed runner up) Skill 60 Consistency 50

Not sure 100% understand how the points work, but fresh from their Live for Speed success Team Ultimate I think Qualify for this series. They also come With some staff fresh from the Lola Bunnies hoping for success from Ana Beatriz. Hoping for a strong result from the Black Beauty.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Apr 2012, 17:55

OK, here goes...

dr-baker wrote:OK, I am going to copy kostas and start to reveal my hand:

- an intention to fill a particular garage (e.g. "H3")
X9

- a team name, which does not necessarily have to be one from any existing series, but it can be
West Cliff Racing (an old F1RWRS team is reborn!)

- a car number (from 1 to 40, of those that are not already taken)
22

- the car is determined by what garage the team slots in (i.e. a Holden in garage H3), but any tweaking of the car's stats (P/R ±20, or a qualifying adjustment) should be given
DeLorean (using the oppotunity to bring in a fourth manufacturer) Performance 88/Reliabilty 17

- three drivers, along with their stats - whether they're F1RMGP drivers with tweaked stats (S/C ±10) or drivers from other series, in which case the stats should be given from scratch
Martin McFry Skill 88/control 17
Douglas Mann Skill 15/control 15
Alice Powell Skill 60/ Control 60 (Stats slightly tweaked!)

- an acknowledgement that the total points of the team has not exceeded the maximum for that garage (i.e. put the total in).
DeLorean 88 + 17 = 105
McFry 88 + 17 = 105
D. Mann 15 + 15 = 30
Powell 60 + 60 = 120
105 + 105 + 30 + 120 = 360.

No prizes for guessing why McFry and the DeLorean contain 88 in their stats... Although it has compromised Douglas's stats. :oops:

Serves me right for wanting my own manufacturer. And I have replaced Pippa Mann with Alice Powell for a better driver. Plus I don't know whether my Pippa Mann and the Pippa Mann of F1RMGP are the same or not.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Apr 2012, 18:02

Phew. My internet connection went dodgy between hitting 'Submit' and getting the confirmation of posting screen, so I'm glad my post above is there!

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 10 Apr 2012, 18:30

Garage F3
Apollonia GT Racing by Hydook

Car:
#32 Ford Falcon
Power - 20+20=40
Reliability - 80+20=100

Drivers:

Marko Asmer (63+60=123)

Mirko Bosevic (60+41=101)

Plamen Kralev (27+57=84)
____________________________
POINTS USED: 100+40+123+101+84=428

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Apr 2012, 18:41

My entry form:
-Garage: N4.
-Team name: Aeroracing Engineering.
-Numbers: 17.
-Car stats: P:100/R:40.
-Drivers: Phoenix McAllister (S:60/C:50), Niko Bellic (S:40/C:70), Rory McAllister (S:50/C:25).
-Total points spent: 435 (140+110+110+75=435).

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 19:16

WILL THIS FORUM STOP DYING WHEN I'M TRYING TO GET EAGER FORUMITES TO SIGN UP FOR A SERIES?

Anyway, that outburst over, whether or not the capricious forum is to blame for a couple of errors is debatable, but there are problems...

Shadaza wrote:Going to steal Dr-Bakers form.
- an intention to fill a particular garage (e.g. "H3")
N3

Houston, we have a problem! BlindCaveSalamander has bagged garage N3, and now Phoenix has gone for N4. So I can't accept your entry yet.

Shadaza wrote:- the car is determined by what garage the team slots in (i.e. a Holden in garage H3), but any tweaking of the car's stats (P/R ±20, or a qualifying adjustment) should be given
Nissan p-5 R+5 (am I going it right)
- three drivers, along with their stats - whether they're F1RMGP drivers with tweaked stats (S/C ±10) or drivers from other series, in which case the stats should be given from scratch
Ana Beatriz
Cave Johnson (Rejects Live for Speed Champion) Skill 50 Consistency 60
Sebastian Prost (Rejects Live for Speed runner up) Skill 60 Consistency 50

...because with these stats, you've got a total of 432 points (car = 100, AB = 112, the other two = 110 each), for which you'll need a fourth (or third) tier garage. F3, F4 and H4 are still available. If you don't want those, you'll have to take a Nissan in N5 and drop 12 points somewhere. What's it to be?

Pointrox wrote:Garage F5
Apollonia GT Racing by Hydook
#22 Ford Falcon

Mild problem: dr-baker has bagged #22 for his car. I need another number.

Pointrox wrote:Drivers:
Marko Asmer (63+60=123)
Stephane Sarrazin (42+36=78)
Plamen Kralev (27+57=84)
____________________________
POINTS USED/TOTAL POINTS: 285/420

385, actually (I think you forgot the 100 for the car), but you're well within the budget. In fact, you could run this team from a #7 garage.

Right! I will be back later - I warn you I'll be away all day on the 12th, so for HWNSNBM's sake, if anyone submits a team on that day, make sure it's error-free or you might find yourself dumped a long way down the grid!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Apr 2012, 19:59

dinizintheoven wrote:Garage F2 is, temporarily, filled by a wild card entry from Scuderia Minardivas, who have been allocated car #23 (for now), parallel to the origins of their 2013 Minardi. As the 2014 WEC Teams' Champions, they are granted automatic entry to this race - it just needs confirmation from the Team Manager, the Belgian known only as This. Minardivas have been granted use of the #2 Ford - they don't have to use it, but must be warned that switching to a Holden or a Nissan will require them to drop to the #3 garages (or further down, if those are already filled). Drivers' Champion Vanina Ickx and runner-up Simona de Silvestro are provisionally pencilled in for two of the race seats, leaving a massive 133 points to be allocated to a third driver, and any required car tweaks.

DanielPT wrote:You should put Michèle Mouton on the third Minardivas seat (to make that team strong).

Agree on all of this.

Would it be possible to enter the REECCS-Cillit Bang-trabant in the second 'experimental' seat? Because it is the car that made REECCS so popular!
I'll give you the details soon.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 10 Apr 2012, 20:01

Oh, Team Ultimate would like to change their entry to H4 Holden then. Apologies for the confusion.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 10 Apr 2012, 20:15

OK, I made some significant changes in my entry - hopefully I've got everything right

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 21:07

This wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:Garage F2 is, temporarily, filled by a wild card entry from Scuderia Minardivas, who have been allocated car #23 (for now), parallel to the origins of their 2013 Minardi. As the 2014 WEC Teams' Champions, they are granted automatic entry to this race - it just needs confirmation from the Team Manager, the Belgian known only as This. Minardivas have been granted use of the #2 Ford - they don't have to use it, but must be warned that switching to a Holden or a Nissan will require them to drop to the #3 garages (or further down, if those are already filled). Drivers' Champion Vanina Ickx and runner-up Simona de Silvestro are provisionally pencilled in for two of the race seats, leaving a massive 133 points to be allocated to a third driver, and any required car tweaks.

DanielPT wrote:You should put Michèle Mouton on the third Minardivas seat (to make that team strong).

Agree on all of this.

Then it is done. Scuderia Minardivas are using 464 out of a total of 465 points - that's how to do it.

This wrote:Would it be possible to enter the REECCS-Cillit Bang-trabant in the second 'experimental' seat? Because it is the car that made REECCS so popular!
I'll give you the details soon.

Well, that should be interesting! I'll be expecting a double-zero for the car performance figures, mind... but then, that'd leave 360 points to be spent on the drivers. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

Shadaza wrote:Oh, Team Ultimate would like to change their entry to H4 Holden then. Apologies for the confusion.

Gotcha. A Holden it is.

Pointrox wrote:OK, I made some significant changes in my entry - hopefully I've got everything right

I can't fathom why you've moved the team to garage F3 and not used any of the extra points available. You're still using 385 points, only out of a maximum of 450 now instead of 420. Are you sure you want this driver line-up?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 10 Apr 2012, 21:38

Red Bull Team Jagermeister wil submit an official entry when they figure out how the driver system works. They plan to run a Holden and take garage H5.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Apr 2012, 21:39

Well, the car needs drivers who are used to driving crappy cars, so let's see who's available!

Y9 - nr 13

Team: Cillit Bang!Trabant Factory Team - Trabant 'REECCS' : 360
Car
Power: 10
Reliability: 13
Car Total: 23 (i suppose that what i have left unused, i can put into the car)

Perry McCarthy
Skill: 58
Consistency: 55
Total: 113

Pedro Chaves
Skill: 63
Consistency: 57
Total: 120

Roberto Moreno
Skill: 56
Consistency: 48
Total: 104

Just because i can!

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 10 Apr 2012, 21:41

dinizintheoven wrote:
Pointrox wrote:OK, I made some significant changes in my entry - hopefully I've got everything right

I can't fathom why you've moved the team to garage F3 and not used any of the extra points available. You're still using 385 points, only out of a maximum of 450 now instead of 420. Are you sure you want this driver line-up?

Now I am - check my submission

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:46

Garage: H6
Team Name: Holden Racing Team
Number: 2
Leaving the Holden stock standard.
Drivers: Rhys Davies (S/C 66/54), Frank Zimmer (S/C 55/50), Nick Percat (S/C 45/50)

100+110+105+95=405

My main problems: Why are the cars different when parity has the been the major issue in V8s since 2003?
Also, why the GT-R? Shouldn't it be the Altima?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:54

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Garage: H6
Team Name: Holden Racing Team
Number: 2
Leaving the Holden stock standard.
Drivers: Rhys Davies (S/C 66/54), Frank Zimmer (S/C 55/50), Nick Percat (S/C 45/50)

100+110+105+95=405

PROBLEM!

Rhys Davies adds up to 120 points, and 100+120+109+95=420. You've submitted for an H6 garage but would need to get a level 5 for this to work (though eurobrun's team hasn't submitted yet, so technically you can nick garage H5 and leave him in H6...) Besides, the numbers you originally gave add up to 410 anyway!

the Masked Lapwing wrote:My main problems: Why are the cars different when parity has the been the major issue in V8s since 2003?

Something (i.e. running the last F1RMGP season) tells me the differences aren't going to be enormous. Besides, I'm not revealing how much difference there is between 0 and 100 points for each car!

Also, why the GT-R? Shouldn't it be the Altima?

I thought it was a bit odd Nissan launching the GT-R into a series made up of huge, heavy, uncomplicated Aussie saloons, but the official series blurb says it'll be the GT-R in 2013 at least. Being the wrong side of the world from Australia, this is all I have to go on. I can't think the two Australian manufacturers will run anything other than their in-house models.

Cillit Bang! Trabant Factory Team is now accepted, and the changes have been made for Hydook. Eurobrun... when you're ready, give us the team line-up!

I just hope the race works well after all this build-up, because it has all the hallmarks of being more epic that Quorthon returning from Valhalla for a jam session with Henri Sorvali and Markus Tümmers.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 10 Apr 2012, 22:58

dinizintheoven wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:My main problems: Why are the cars different when parity has the been the major issue in V8s since 2003?

Something (i.e. running the last F1RMGP season) tells me the differences aren't going to be enormous. Besides, I'm not revealing how much difference there is between 0 and 100 points for each car!

Also, why the GT-R? Shouldn't it be the Altima?

I thought it was a bit odd Nissan launching the GT-R into a series made up of huge, heavy, uncomplicated Aussie saloons, but the official series blurb says it'll be the GT-R in 2013 at least. Being the wrong side of the world from Australia, this is all I have to go on. I can't think the two Australian manufacturers will run anything other than their in-house models.

Nope, it's the new Altima. Although it still doesn't look like it should be competing with Falcodores, does it? :lol:

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:00

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Nope, it's the new Altima. Although it still doesn't look like it should be competing with Falcodores, does it?

It could still be a detuned GT-R for this race, then! And besides, we've got a DeLorean and a Trabant on the grid now, so here comes a bit of variety.

Anyway, seeing as you're online, sort out the problem above and your entry will be accepted.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:01

How are the stats for drivers not on that list determined.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:07

eurobrun wrote:How are the stats for drivers not on that list determined.

I said, in effect, "make them up" - but I'd expect the stats to be reflective of the drivers' performance in the series they've been in. For instance, I could think of was Phil McCracken, who was hopeless in one series and legendary in another - that should be indicative of a low consistency score.

dr-baker's very low rating of Douglas Mann, though, was to fit him in a team that's deliberately low-ranked. He can be nursing an injury or something similar. I'm sure Some Publication, J.O.U.R.N.A.L. and the rest might speculate on what's going on with underperforming drivers...

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:18

Then quick! Try to nick that H5 garage! Otherwise, just take everything away from Percat.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:20

Red Bull World Race Team

Garage H5
Number 12
Drivers:
Jason Hamilton (S:70/C:50)
Mika Paasonen (S:55/C:45)
Deiter Hallenstein (S:55/C:45)

100+120+100+100=420

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:28

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Then quick! Try to nick that H5 garage! Otherwise, just take everything away from Percat.

Skill, consistency, or a bit of both? You'll definitely be in the H6 garage now, because...

eurobrun wrote:Red Bull World Race Team
Garage H5
Number 12
Drivers:
Jason Hamilton (S:70/C:50)
Mika Paasonen (S:55/C:45)
Deiter Hallenstein (S:55/C:45)
100+120+100+100=420

Accepted!

Right, I'm off for the night now; TMLW's team will definitely be safe in garage H6 once I find out which stats Nick Percat will be shedding.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:57

Zombie Conglomerate
Garage: F4
Number: 21
Ford Standard, Power up by 20 (40/80)
Drivers:
Jesus Plaza (60/50)
Dan Greenlaw (50/50)
Peter Senerson (55/45)

120+110+100+100= 430 (Will save the rest for qualifying bonus??)

EDIT: Sorry Wizzie.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Apr 2012, 23:58

Virgin MRT
Car 19 if it hasn't been taken
F5 + However many extra points I need to make up the shortfall (Yes, I know I'm committing the biggest cardinal sin on earth but I want the points :lol:

) (P: 45, R: 80)
Daniel Melrose (S:65, C: 65), Dean O'Lauchlan (S: 50, C: 40), Mitchell Macklin (S: 60, C: 30)
Total: 435 points (125 from car + 130 from Melrose + 90 from O'Lauchlan + 90 from Macklin)

EDIT: To hell with you, Tristan! I was just about to submit my application when you posted that :evil:

EDIT 2: I'll take F5 for now and let you sort all this crap out :lol:

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 11 Apr 2012, 03:48

Gulf Ford Racing Team

Garage: F6 (assuming that Wizzie takes F5) +30 extra performance points (P50/R80) - [running total 130 points]

Number: 6

Drivers:
Dave Simpson: 65 skill, 40 consistency - (105) [running total 235 points]
Rick Simpson: 41 skill, 38 consistency - (79) [running total 314 points]
Alex Yoong: 91 base (91) [running total 405 points]

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 11 Apr 2012, 09:44

dinizintheoven wrote:
eurobrun wrote:How are the stats for drivers not on that list determined.

I said, in effect, "make them up" - but I'd expect the stats to be reflective of the drivers' performance in the series they've been in. For instance, I could think of was Phil McCracken, who was hopeless in one series and legendary in another - that should be indicative of a low consistency score.

dr-baker's very low rating of Douglas Mann, though, was to fit him in a team that's deliberately low-ranked. He can be nursing an injury or something similar. I'm sure Some Publication, J.O.U.R.N.A.L. and the rest might speculate on what's going on with underperforming drivers...

To be honest, Douglas's ratings are only so low because I wanted one good driver (in Alice Powell) plus I couldn't resist slilling a reference to 88 mph into the stats of McFry and the DeLorean, which left me with very few points for Douglas. So let's say that McFry and Powell flew to Bathurst via San Fransisco and arrived safely with plenty of time to acclimatise; while Douglas flew via Delhi, picked up Dehli Belly and still suffering from jet-lag as the weekend of racing was underway.

And the DeLorean team is looking forward to thrashing the Trabant team in the race!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Apr 2012, 11:29

dinizintheoven wrote:dr-baker's very low rating of Douglas Mann, though, was to fit him in a team that's deliberately low-ranked. He can be nursing an injury or something similar. I'm sure Some Publication, J.O.U.R.N.A.L. and the rest might speculate on what's going on with underperforming drivers...

Speaking of Some Publication, I think this is well overdue.

Some Publication wrote:Team James Davies? What's that all about?
By Ida Prefferedadifferentname
As entries for the 2014 24 Hour V8 Bathurst are underway, certainly the most bizarre has to be that of Team James Davies, which consists of 3 James Davies' from different times and realities. I managed to get a word with the 1995 edition, who seems to have appointed himself leader of the trio.

Ida Prefferedadifferentname: Thanks for agreeing to talk to me, James.
1995 James Davies: No trouble. Always willing to express myself to the media.
IP: So, how did all this start? Was it your idea, and if so, how did you become aware of this race?
JD95: Well, it's kind of an odd story. See, there I was in Woking, just helping the team out as I do, and I go over to my desk and there's an entry form. For this race. At first I thought it was a joke, but then I thought about it, and I thought to myself, who would I trust to drive the car other than myself? I can't let me be dragged down by an inferior co-driver! So I decided to time-travel, grab another me from another time, and then get 2014 me and make the best team of all-time.
IP: Time travel? Isn't that supposed to be impossible?
JD95: Yes, but I bumped into a couple of guys who said their phone booth could time travel. They really liked to air guitar, cool guys. Anyway, I persuaded them to let me borrow it to enact my plan.
IP: But it's merged with a DeLorean now!? How the hell did that happen?
JD95: Not sure. Um, I recall Douglas (Mann) saying once he had a DeLorean that could travel through time. I didn't want him to have a better time machine than me, so I decided to combine the phone booth with a DeLorean I found. Somewhere.
IP: How did you combine them?
JD95: Not a damn clue. I was pretty smashed by then. All I know is I used a sledgehammer for... something. When I came to, it looked like it does now. So I hopped in and took off.
IP: So, what made you get 2003 James Davies? He did say he drove in NASCAR, so he wouldn't have been my first choice.
JD95: Ah yes, well, you see, the problem was I could only travel to very few other times. Aside from my own time, I could travel to any time and place in 2014, and 2003 so long as it was in America - presumably in another reality because I'd never drive in NASCAR myself. But he's still me, which still makes him a great choice for a teammate. Also, for some reason, I could travel back to Wales in 1400. Not sure why.
IP: Did you go there?
JD95: I might have... when I was drunk, and testing the car. It's hard to recall.
IP: So, would I be right in guessing that 2014 - present, James Davies was the last one you picked up.
JD95: Yes.
IP: So, why did you time travel here, then?
JD95: 2003 James Davies was hungry, so we went to the chip shop. In Cardiff.
IP: Okay, now on to the car you'll be racing. What made you choose Nissan?
JD95: There wasn't a Mercedes available, or I'dve picked that. The Nissan GT-R is fantastically quick, and that's all I needed to know.
IP: And, lastly, where are your mechanics and pit crew going to come from?
JD95: Ah, yes, good question. 2003 James Davies said I could use his - apprently, he owns his own team, which is pretty cool. We'll be bringing them over just before practice.
IP: Well, thanks for your time, James. Good luck in the race.
JD95: Thanks, but I don't think I'll need luck. All skill.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 11 Apr 2012, 11:34

tristan1117 wrote:Zombie Conglomerate
Garage: F4
...
120+110+100+100= 430 (Will save the rest for qualifying bonus??)
EDIT: Sorry Wizzie.

Accepted! Whether or not Wizzie accepts your apology is a different matter.

Wizzie wrote:Virgin MRT
Car 19 if it hasn't been taken
F5 + However many extra points I need to make up the shortfall (Yes, I know I'm committing the biggest cardinal sin on earth but I want the points ) (P: 45, R: 80)
Daniel Melrose (S:65, C: 65), Dean O'Lauchlan (S: 50, C: 40), Mitchell Macklin (S: 60, C: 30)
Total: 435 points (125 from car + 130 from Melrose + 90 from O'Lauchlan + 90 from Macklin)
EDIT: To hell with you, Tristan! I was just about to submit my application when you posted that
EDIT 2: I'll take F5 for now and let you sort all this crap out

Accepted, provisionally. Though one violation of the rules is increasing the power of the Ford by more than 20 points (max power = 40), I've added the other five onto the qualifying bonus, because it works out easier. I'll need to deduct five points from each driver - unless you tell me otherwise, they'll be off the skill ratings.

MinardiFan95 wrote:Gulf Ford Racing Team
Garage: F6 (assuming that Wizzie takes F5) +30 extra performance points (P50/R80) - [running total 130 points]

Now that I'm not letting you get away with. +20 power points maximum on the car, and it's up to you what you do with the ten left over - more reliability for the car, or increase the stats of your drivers?

dr-baker wrote:And the DeLorean team is looking forward to thrashing the Trabant team in the race!

I'm going to be watching this one very carefully as well. Down in the #6/7/8 garages, there might be a few concerned looks on faces.

Some Publication wrote:JD95: Yes, but I bumped into a couple of guys who said their phone booth could time travel. They really liked to air guitar, cool guys.

Excellent! *widdlydiddlydiddly*

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Apr 2012, 11:39

Remove 5 points off Melrose's consistency and 5 each off O'Lauchlan's and 5 Macklin's skill.