The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship

[DemocalypseNow]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

[TomWazzleshaw]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Would that be the two O'Lauchlan guys?

[AndreaModa]

When do you want emails/replays sent by Kostas? I'm in a similar position to Warren Hughes, I have a half decent time down, but I know I can improve it with a good lap and a bit of luck!

[DemocalypseNow]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Would that be the two O'Lauchlan guys?

No. Not even close.

Replays this weekend please. I will compile the highlights show next week once I've received them all. Oddly, I can't edit the whole thing together until I am sent the slowest time (it's how the in-game editor works...)

[TomWazzleshaw]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

Would that be the two O'Lauchlan guys?

No. Not even close.

Replays this weekend please. I will compile the highlights show next week once I've received them all. Oddly, I can't edit the whole thing together until I am sent the slowest time (it's how the in-game editor works...)

Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

[DemocalypseNow]

Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

Indeed. If I use the fastest replay as the reference for the editor it will cut off the slow times.

[WaffleCat]

Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

Indeed. If I use the fastest replay as the reference for the editor it will cut off the slow times.

Maybe I could help you out by going literally slow on purpose and making mistakes everywhere and then saving the replay.

[RonDenisDeletraz]

Is it because the slowest time determines how long the replay will be?

Indeed. If I use the fastest replay as the reference for the editor it will cut off the slow times.

Maybe I could help you out by going literally slow on purpose and making mistakes everywhere and then saving the replay.

Not nessasary, I've only completed 1 full lap and it was at least 15 seconds off the pace.

[Shadaza]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

2 drivers? hmmmm.

[DemocalypseNow]

Bumping this thread to keep it on the first page. More entries are welcome!!

Right now, there are two drivers FAR FAR FAR ahead of everyone else. The rest of you might want to rethink your strategy

2 drivers? hmmmm.

It was just one until you joined the party

So yes, there you have it. Shadaza is one of the two fastest drivers, and the O'Lauchlan drivers are mired in the midfield, who have similar times to pretty much everyone else's that I've seen so far. But I'm not giving away times to everyone just yet

[Jack O Melley]

Sent my replay; I reached my limit and it's impossible better that for me.

[DemocalypseNow]

Just to clarify, all replays must be sent to [email protected] before Sunday 2000 GMT. Any afterwards will receive a DSQ.

[Aerond]

I´ve spent 1/2 hour trying to find the trick but I didn´t ...

[DemocalypseNow]

I´ve spent 1/2 hour trying to find the trick but I didn´t ...

Perhaps you have and you're just not doing it properly? I noticed it early on, tried it, wasn't any faster than my normal time, gave up for a while, then tried it again slightly differently and it worked the second time. I don't know...

[Shadaza]

I´ve spent 1/2 hour trying to find the trick but I didn´t ...

Perhaps you have and you're just not doing it properly? I noticed it early on, tried it, wasn't any faster than my normal time, gave up for a while, then tried it again slightly differently and it worked the second time. I don't know...

I hope your not stealing my ideas....

[AndreaModa]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

[Shadaza]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

I go through all the chekpoints

[Aerond]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

[AndreaModa]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

100% agreed.

[DemocalypseNow]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

I thought I had when I did the prologue.

However, seeing as there have now been complaints about the above, I've decided to rescind my shortcuts allowed policy. AndreaModa has a point. It's not the way the map was intended to be driven, and it's against the spirit of the competition. Also, I am partly guilty of copying Shadaza, because his technique was actually better than mine at the alternative solution

Also, it should be known, 'smart jumps' do not come under shortcuts. This is an occurence where time can be saved by using a rise or fall in the road as a launch ramp to cut a single corner. I need to clarify that as I know for a fact there will be some of said jumps in Rally Norway, and possibly other events as well.

Therefore, Shadaza, your fastest time is annulled and instead your quickest standard replay will be used.

At least the prologue isn't for points and we get these sorts of issues dealth with before it ruins someone's title aspirations.

[Aerond]

Just managed to find 4 extra seconds!

[Shadaza]

So what people are doing is running the track differently to the original layout? That's a bit unfair isn't it? Don't think the WRC or IRC would allow shortcuts/alternative routes!

The ruling says that a time is valid as long as the driver passes through every checkpoint, but it doesn´t have to be in any order in particular. What I´d ask kostas though, is to try to close any possible gap in that aspect when he builds the tracks.

I thought I had when I did the prologue.

However, seeing as there have now been complaints about the above, I've decided to rescind my shortcuts allowed policy. AndreaModa has a point. It's not the way the map was intended to be driven, and it's against the spirit of the competition. Also, I am partly guilty of copying Shadaza, because his technique was actually better than mine at the alternative solution

Also, it should be known, 'smart jumps' do not come under shortcuts. This is an occurence where time can be saved by using a rise or fall in the road as a launch ramp to cut a single corner. I need to clarify that as I know for a fact there will be some of said jumps in Rally Norway, and possibly other events as well.

Therefore, Shadaza, your fastest time is annulled and instead your quickest standard replay will be used.

At least the prologue isn't for points and we get these sorts of issues dealth with before it ruins someone's title aspirations.

Appeal, Appeal! Sack the board

see what we found on the internet, isn't it funny, but a good story seems to have gotten in the way of the facts

Myth 1:Cutting is against the spirit of the sport
Fact: It is not, banning it is a poisonous dagger to creativity

Myth 2:Team Ultimate are bad losers
Fact: Everyone else can eat our dust.

I blame Tony Fernandes for these myths, lead by Joe Saward of course.

END

(Only joking, I will work on setting a proper lap this time, though am I little annoyed it does not count.)

[Warren Hughes]

Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

[DemocalypseNow]

Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

I will post the 'cheat sheet' on YouTube. My cheat time was faster than Shadaza's so I'll do mine instead.

[Shadaza]

Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

I will post the 'cheat sheet' on YouTube. My cheat time was faster than Shadaza's so I'll do mine instead.

I can tell you it is far more frustrating then going the ordinary way round! The final jump to get back on the circuit is awkward.
Also I have spent about 3 hours after being told my alternative was alright and I only completed 2 "cleanish" laps. My brother spent an hour and could not get a lap in.

I now have a clarification to ask. The jump at the 30 second mark can be adjusted so instead you angle yourself left, accelerate in to the banking and leap back on to the circuit at the 4th checkpoint on the track, it has no practical advantage besides looking spectacular. Is it legal?

[DemocalypseNow]

Now we know it's not going to count, can I ask, out of curiosity, how were you able to get the shortcut to work? The times I tried it I failed badly, but I don't really see how it could ever be faster

I will post the 'cheat sheet' on YouTube. My cheat time was faster than Shadaza's so I'll do mine instead.

I can tell you it is far more frustrating then going the ordinary way round! The final jump to get back on the circuit is awkward.
Also I have spent about 3 hours after being told my alternative was alright and I only completed 2 "cleanish" laps. My brother spent an hour and could not get a lap in.

I now have a clarification to ask. The jump at the 30 second mark can be adjusted so instead you angle yourself left, accelerate in to the banking and leap back on to the circuit at the 4th checkpoint on the track, it has no practical advantage besides looking spectacular. Is it legal?

No. I think I have a solution, a written rule that clears this up entirely.

TMMRC SPORTING REGULATIONS 2015 - AMENDMENT

The TMRRC has retroactively applied a rule amendment to tackle the use of alternative routing, with the creation of the following;

Section 3.1
Competitors must complete checkpoints in the order they were designed to be completed. This means, if a track links directly between two checkpoints, said two checkpoints must be completed by following the pre-existing route, rather than moving off-course, regardless of whether it gives an advantage or otherwise.

[DemocalypseNow]

Reminder, you all have 25 HOURS LEFT to send your replays to [email protected] - i.e. 2000 BST/1900 GMT. I will start compiling the replays then so if I don't receive them on time they'll be ignored.

If you sent a replay early on you might want to have one last bite at the cherry, the newer times are all faster than early finishers!

[DemocalypseNow]

!!IMPORTANT!!

I have received replays from the following drivers, and they are guaranteed classification for the prologue;
Krzysztof Holowczyc (obviously...)
Anton Bosevic
Chris Bowman
Sebastien Prost
Fabian Rei
Mark Kirby
Brad Jacobs
Giovanni Roda
Dean O'Lauchlan
Joel Melrose
Sarlos Cainz
Rick Simpson
Peter Senerson

This means the following drivers are in line to recieve a DSQ for failing to submit times;
Jason Hamilton
Matt Older
Marcus Hood
Mateusz Wantulok

I realise two of them are not members of this board, so, Shadaza, as the link between said drivers and this forum, can you please tell them to email me replays tomorrow please! The rest of you, please email me the replays asap...

[DemocalypseNow]

The results for the 2015 TMRRC Prologue are in! Highlights will be available on YouTube next week, followed by a new challange on the 23rd April.

[Shadaza]

The results for the 2015 TMRRC Prologue are in! Highlights will be available on YouTube next week, followed by a new challange on the 23rd April.

How on Earth did you do that lap time The battle for 3rd is going to look ace!

For those wondering, with the short-cut my lap time was 1.39.6.

To achieve that lap you have to reverse at the start, go up a small hill and on to the track, you emerge at the 2nd checkpoint after 7.5 seconds, putting you nearly 20 seconds up at this stage, you then drive round the track normally until you reach the speed boosters where you aim at a small dirt mound to launch back to checkpoint 1, from there you turn around and climb a dune back on to the track.

[DemocalypseNow]

How on Earth did you do that lap time

Both you and Aerond were actually ahead of me until around the 4th or 5th checkpoint, and then for some reason you just ran out of pace. I guess you'll see how I did that laptime in the highlights show next week

To achieve that lap you have to reverse at the start, go up a small hill and on to the track, you emerge at the 2nd checkpoint after 7.5 seconds, putting you nearly 20 seconds up at this stage, you then drive round the track normally until you reach the speed boosters where you aim at a small dirt mound to launch back to checkpoint 1, from there you turn around and climb a dune back on to the track.

Indeed, our head-to-head times using this method will also be in the highlights show. Stay tuned

[Warren Hughes]

I'm not as far back as I thought I would be. But seriously, 1:41 is just ridiculous. Actually, I would suggest for the fairness of competition that we use as few tracks of Kostas' own design as possible as it's reasonable to suggest that the designer of the track would have some sort of advantage in terms of knowing how to do it quickly.

[DemocalypseNow]

I'm not as far back as I thought I would be. But seriously, 1:41 is just ridiculous. Actually, I would suggest for the fairness of competition that we use as few tracks of Kostas' own design as possible as it's reasonable to suggest that the designer of the track would have some sort of advantage in terms of knowing how to do it quickly.

Actually, in Trackmania that theory has little merit unless it's an RPG or Puzzle track. One of the six tracks in Rally Monte Carlo is my own design - the Power Stage, and you'll see why I had to design it when the map pack is released. SS4 and the SS6 power-stage for Rally Qatar are also my creations, but I haven't driven them except to validate it in-game, so I don't know the map. I built it, checked it didn't have any major flaws and let it be. I am sourcing tracks from all over the place for this championship. It should be noted that while the maps for Rally New Zealand and Japan will all be 'mine' according to the game, I didn't design them from the ground up. Credit will be given to the original author when the time comes. Very little of the championship is mapped by myself. The only reason I was so fast here is because this type of map suits my driving style. However, I tested the map pack for Norway and hated it, I'm not fast there at all, so hopefully it's the point where the rest of you will catch up

[the Masked Lapwing]

I didn't come last? Sweet.

[DemocalypseNow]

I didn't come last? Sweet.

If you hadn't screwed up the landing after the hoop you would have finished 2 places higher...

Also, seeing as it is technically possible with not much extra effort, there will be full onboard race replays (with opponents visible) available for every driver. Yes, you can watch the race onboard all 14 cars that raced so you can see what the trackside cameras can't pick up.

[TomWazzleshaw]

Also, seeing as it is technically possible with not much extra effort, there will be full onboard race replays (with opponents visible) available for every driver. Yes, you can watch the race onboard all 14 cars that raced so you can see what the trackside cameras can't pick up.

Schweeet! Now I can see exactly why my brother was 9 tenths faster than me.

[tristan1117]

Hooray! I'm not last! Peter Senerson should probably consider a switch to the JRRC though.

[AndreaModa]

Well all I can say is that a load of these regular drivers in the main championship are way over-rated! To be only 2.5 seconds off the leading JRRC car as well is encouraging, and to finish in the top ten is a major surprise for us all at PowerSurge. I'm confident with this result that we can have a successful season, and perhaps put a few of these supposedly more experienced drivers in the right place, though I think the JRRC title overall may be tricky.

[WaffleCat]

This session was very good for us here at the team.I know my time could have been improved,especially after that little booster jump,but it is all good.In fact,third in class could set the tempo for the rest of the season.Looking forward to Monte-Carlo in first race.Also,it a big mystery how other drivers can end up 2 seconds behind me and somehow someone end up 4 second ahead.The field very spread out but other rally should close gap down.We will wait and see.

[DemocalypseNow]

Hooray! I'm not last! Peter Senerson should probably consider a switch to the JRRC though.

Had Rick Simpson not completely fudged up the first half of the lap he would have beaten you. You lost a lot of time with your 'awkward' finish...