2012 Canadian Grand Prix Discussion Thread

Post by **Londoner** » 06 Jun 2012, 12:25

I'll kick things off with the usual announcement(s). Only a single DRS zone this year, on the back straight, and the actual zone itself has been shortened as it was deemed to be making overtaking too easy last year (witness Schumi being blown away by Webber).

And here's the weather forecast at the moment. :mrgreen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/6077243

johnston21 · Post by **johnston21** » 06 Jun 2012, 12:34

I'll chime-in and make reference to last year's Cdn GP thread. ...Had a great time, thou not going to this year's.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4216&p=99019#p99019

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Jun 2012, 13:41

Rain on Saturday will mean a (hopefully) mixed up grid

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 06 Jun 2012, 16:13

Anyone expecting a 'Neil Horan' in this race? :lol:

tkcom · Post by **tkcom** » 06 Jun 2012, 18:27

pasta_maldonado wrote:Rain on Saturday will mean a (hopefully) mixed up grid

FOM's method of predicting weather: roll dice

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Jun 2012, 18:28

tkcom wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Rain on Saturday will mean a (hopefully) mixed up grid

FOM's method of predicting weather: roll dice

Not if it would disadvantage Ferrari though :lol:

Post by **mario** » 06 Jun 2012, 19:04

East Londoner wrote:I'll kick things off with the usual announcement(s). Only a single DRS zone this year, on the back straight, and the actual zone itself has been shortened as it was deemed to be making overtaking too easy last year (witness Schumi being blown away by Webber).

And here's the weather forecast at the moment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/6077243

The long range weather forecasts for the Spanish and Monaco GP's also predicted rain during the race, so at the moment I am inclined to take those predictions with a fairly hefty pinch of salt.

As to the Canadian GP itself, Massa has been saying that he feels more confident going into this weekend because he has changed his approach to setting the car up. Although he conceded that the Monaco circuit layout did mask some of the areas in which the F2012 is weaker in, not to mention the fact that some of the set up requirements for Monaco are unique to that venue, he nevertheless feels that he can draw on what he learned at Monaco and use that in Montreal. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100142

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 06 Jun 2012, 22:31

FMecha wrote:Anyone expecting a 'Neil Horan' in this race?

If it happens, what a shame that Barrichello isn't still racing in F1...

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 06 Jun 2012, 23:16

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
FMecha wrote:Anyone expecting a 'Neil Horan' in this race?

If it happens, what a shame that Barrichello isn't still racing in F1...

Well, having a 'Neil Horan' in Montréal could trigger a butterfly effect that makes Barrichello win at Texas this weekend.

Although the latter might be more difficult to happen!

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 06 Jun 2012, 23:44

The Autosport countdown clock to the race is, bizarrely, locked into whatever time it says on you computer clock, rather than using the start of the Grand Prix as a fixed point in time. That is to say, the time till the start of the race will change depending on what time you set your clock at, even though the time left till the start of the race is exactly the same wherever in the world you are.

Bearing that in mind, and that fact that the Autosport clock doesn't bear any relation to anything resembling reality no matter whether I set it to local or UK time, can anyone tell me what time the GP will start if I'm living in Chicago (which I am)?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 06 Jun 2012, 23:59

fjackdaw wrote:The Autosport countdown clock to the race is, bizarrely, locked into whatever time it says on you computer clock, rather than using the start of the Grand Prix as a fixed point in time. That is to say, the time till the start of the race will change depending on what time you set your clock at, even though the time left till the start of the race is exactly the same wherever in the world you are.

Bearing that in mind, and that fact that the Autosport clock doesn't bear any relation to anything resembling reality no matter whether I set it to local or UK time, can anyone tell me what time the GP will start if I'm living in Chicago (which I am)?

SInce it starts at 2pm local time and assuming that Chicago's 1 hour behind Montreal, the race will start at 1pm on Sunday in your corner of the world.

I on the other hand have to get at 5 in the bathplugging morning to watch it. Thank HWNSNBM it's a long weekend this weekend

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 07 Jun 2012, 00:51

Wizzie wrote:
SInce it starts at 2pm local time and assuming that Chicago's 1 hour behind Montreal, the race will start at 1pm on Sunday in your corner of the world.

Ah, thanks! Autosport (at least on my computer) as 12 hours out then.

Dang, though, I'm going to miss it. Does anyone know when Sky repeat the full face so that I can catch it then? Ta!

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 07 Jun 2012, 02:43

Wizzie wrote:I on the other hand have to get at 5 in the bathplugging morning to watch it. Thank HWNSNBM it's a long weekend this weekend

Same here....jowever,I'm used to waking up at 4 in the morning so this race shouldn't be a problem.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Jun 2012, 04:14

WaffleCat wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I on the other hand have to get at 5 in the bathplugging morning to watch it. Thank HWNSNBM it's a long weekend this weekend

Same here....jowever,I'm used to waking up at 4 in the morning so this race shouldn't be a problem.

Interestingly enough, the race starts two hours later than it usually does. Make of it what you will.

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 07 Jun 2012, 04:30

Mercedes F-duct in qualifying will suit them. Here's to Schumacher netting himself a pole position and a win.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 07 Jun 2012, 04:41

Wizzie wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I on the other hand have to get at 5 in the bathplugging morning to watch it. Thank HWNSNBM it's a long weekend this weekend

Same here....jowever,I'm used to waking up at 4 in the morning so this race shouldn't be a problem.

Interestingly enough, the race starts two hours later than it usually does. Make of it what you will.

Maybe to get a primetime spot in some parts of Europe?

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 07 Jun 2012, 07:16

SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques! :lol:

Post by **Londoner** » 07 Jun 2012, 07:19

CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

I'm sadly all too aware of this fact. Just have to hope he doesn't bring out his guitar during the weekend.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 07 Jun 2012, 08:07

So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 07 Jun 2012, 08:25

WaffleCat wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I on the other hand have to get at 5 in the bathplugging morning to watch it. Thank HWNSNBM it's a long weekend this weekend

Same here....jowever,I'm used to waking up at 4 in the morning so this race shouldn't be a problem.

And here it starts at 20:50. Bad for those who have to wake up for work next morning (like me mums, who has to be at work 4:00), but doesn't affect me thanks to the summer vacation I'm having.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Jun 2012, 08:26

eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Mine's on one of the Williamses. Which one however is entirely up for debate :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 07 Jun 2012, 08:27

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Mine's on one of the Williamses. Which one however is entirely up for debate

I'm think it will be Petrov.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 07 Jun 2012, 08:43

eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

MSC probably, just for old times sake.

Post by **mario** » 07 Jun 2012, 09:25

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Mine's on one of the Williamses. Which one however is entirely up for debate

Just one of the Williams drivers? I wouldn't be surprised if both of them hit the wall, either there or somewhere else around the track, before the race weekend is out.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Jun 2012, 09:27

eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Probably Grosjean, or future champion, Pic.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Jun 2012, 09:29

Come to think of it, didn't Kobayashi clout the wall quite heavily in 2010 on lap one after making one of the best starts of the year?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 07 Jun 2012, 09:32

Wizzie wrote:Come to think of it, didn't Kobayashi clout the wall quite heavily in 2010 on lap one after making one of the best starts of the year?

Yes, He made up several positions I think.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Jun 2012, 09:38

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Come to think of it, didn't Kobayashi clout the wall quite heavily in 2010 on lap one after making one of the best starts of the year?

Yes, He made up several positions I think.

Several? From memory, he went from 18th to 10th to the wall at the final chicane in less than 90 seconds :lol:

Minardi Man · Post by **Minardi Man** » 07 Jun 2012, 20:09

CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Jun 2012, 21:15

CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

Funny thing is, he doesn't realise that absolutely no-one who is serious about F1 takes his opinion seriously :lol:

Post by **mario** » 07 Jun 2012, 22:04

Latest reports from Canada indicate that Williams are going for a new type of rear wing in an attempt to maximise the amount of drag shed when using the DRS, an area where the team have admitted in the past that they have lagged behind a little compared to other teams in (which is part of the reason why Williams have tended to perform a bit better in race trim than qualifying). http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100177

Over at Red Bull, the team seem to have decided to remove the hole in the floor altogether for this weekend. Interestingly, it looks like there are some larger changes being made to the specification of the car, because it looks like the team have reverted to the original bodywork that they used in pre-season testing, and the version of the car that Vettel used in China.
This is how the car looks in Canada:

By way of comparison, this is the Monaco spec floor and sidepods (this image is quite large), where you can see an opening at the bottom of the sidepod:
http://i.imgur.com/YSr3h.jpg

Although it looks like Vettel will be using the older (i.e. without the opening beneath the sidepods) bodywork package, it is not yet clear whether Webber will run with the same bodywork or stick with the current aero package. It may be the case that the team repeat what they did in China and have different aero packages for each driver, since Webber seems to prefer the current aero package over the older specification.

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 08 Jun 2012, 00:16

eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Jacques Villeneuve if there is a god.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 08 Jun 2012, 04:12

Sublime_FA11C wrote:
eurobrun wrote:So who will crash in to the wall of champions this year.

Jacques Villeneuve if there is a god.

Actually

'd

Either Williams drive would be a good bet. Massa too.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Jun 2012, 06:41

I think Schumi is going to bin it there this year. Given his awful luck so far, this could possibly happen.

Post by **Ataxia** » 08 Jun 2012, 10:25

pasta_maldonado wrote:
CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

Funny thing is, he doesn't realise that absolutely no-one who is serious about F1 takes his opinion seriously

And here is that opinion now...

Post by **Londoner** » 08 Jun 2012, 10:28

Oh, go home Jacques Villeneuve. I fear I will be shouting obscenities at the TV for much of this weekend. :evil:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Jun 2012, 10:33

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

Funny thing is, he doesn't realise that absolutely no-one who is serious about F1 takes his opinion seriously

And here is that opinion now...

The F1 Slate wrote:
Jacques Villeneuve
I just feel compelled to express my extremely controversial views. The drivers today are nothing but spoilt babies who don't put in the years of development and climb the ranks in F1.

Michael Schumacher
Talking about climbing the ladder is a bit rich coming from the guy who walked into a Williams drive, managed two decent seasons, and disappeared into the kind of career obscurity only Chesney Hawkes could understand.

Pure genius :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 08 Jun 2012, 10:51

I

'd at David Croft.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 08 Jun 2012, 11:13

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
CoopsII wrote:SKY F1 viewers are in for a treat this weekend as Jacques Villeneuve is joining the commentating "team". He's already been quoted as slagging off most of the drivers, the Pirelli tyres, the racing, and the sport generally.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... uve-865110

Welcome back Jacques!

Funny thing is, he doesn't realise that absolutely no-one who is serious about F1 takes his opinion seriously

And here is that opinion now...

Says the guy whose name was not to be mentioned in video games... (think Sony's F1 '97 and MicroProse's GPM2) :roll:

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Jun 2012, 11:39

pasta_maldonado wrote:
The F1 Slate wrote:
Jacques Villeneuve
I just feel compelled to express my extremely controversial views. The drivers today are nothing but spoilt babies who don't put in the years of development and climb the ranks in F1.

Michael Schumacher
Talking about climbing the ladder is a bit rich coming from the guy who walked into a Williams drive, managed two decent seasons, and disappeared into the kind of career obscurity only Chesney Hawkes could understand.

Pure genius

I genuinely lol'd.

Here's the rest of it, the David Croft bit is the best.