A1 Grand Prix 1951 (Championship Complete)

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Aug 2012, 19:35

I was hoping to upload the 1951 entry list first but since I can't get onto the wiki at the moment I'll reveal the three new teams here. Portugal, Chile and Guatemala will enter for the first time and will be available along with Northern Ireland, which kostas22 gave up, to anyone who doesn't yet have three teams.

Anyway here's the entry list, I'd like everyone involved to confirm their nations by Friday with their drivers, any that aren't by then will be put on the available list.

I'll confirm the calender once the wiki has sorted itself out.

Members and Teams

tommykl
Belgium
Dominican Republic
Sweden

WaffleCat
Thailand
Uruguay

Klon
East Germany
Soviet Union

Shadaza
France

Pointrox
Czechoslovakia

AdrianSutil
England
New Zealand

East Londoner
Switzerland

pasta_maldonado
Argentina

FantometteBR
Brazil

kostas22
Italy
Scotland

Bleu
Finland

FMecha
United States

UncreativeUsername
Monaco
Denmark
Wales

This
Netherlands
South Africa

eurobrun
Australia
Spain

Wizzie
Germany
Ireland

Ferrarist
Canada

Samster
Colombia
Venezuela

andrew
Mexico
Peru

Avaliable
Northern Ireland
Portugal
Guatemala
Chile

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 13 Aug 2012, 19:47

Brazil confirms to be at A1GP 1951 season

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 13 Aug 2012, 19:48

Autosport - Your Weekly Motor-Sport Magazine wrote:ARGENTINIA CONFRIM 1951 A1GP LINE-UP
The Argentinian A1GP team, after losing out on the title by the narrowest of margins, have announced their line up for 1951. "If we hadn't of retired in Australia, we would have won the title. But, there is no point speculating." said Julian Lavadora, team boss. "Juan [Manuel Fangio] was amazing - 2 wins in 3 starts says it all. He will race for the whole season next year, with Jose [Froilan Gonzalez] ready to leap in the car if Juan has prior commitments or is injured"

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Aug 2012, 19:50

FantometteBR wrote:Brazil confirms to be at A1GP 1951 season

I assume Chico Landi will be returning?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Aug 2012, 19:55

As detailed earlier, Luigi Villoresi will be the primary driver for Italy. Luigi Fagioli will be his primary backup when date clashes with Formula One occur.

David Murray is the main driver for Scotland, with young talent Jimmy Stewart lined up to replace him should the British GP clash with any A1GP round, and possibly given a race or two during the season which is yet to be decided.

Post by **Londoner** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:00

Switzerland will continue with Baron De Graffenried for 1951, with Toni Branca as backup should there be a clash.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:05

Monaco will have Louis Chiron, Denmark will have Robert Nellemann, Wales will have Jack Niell and Charles Headland. Just like last year.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:10

Samster wrote:
FantometteBR wrote:Brazil confirms to be at A1GP 1951 season

I assume Chico Landi will be returning?

Yes, but since will take part in a few F1 races, Gino Bianco will be nominated as his alternate

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:12

East Londoner wrote:Switzerland will continue with Baron De Graffenried for 1951, with Toni Branca as backup should there be a clash.

Branca
Branca
Branca
Branca
BRANCA

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:14

Parsons (and Schell standing in when unavailable) should work for US (pun intended!).

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Aug 2012, 20:44

There will be one clash between A1 and F1, the German A1 Grand Prix with the British F1 Grand Prix. By shear fluke as I didn't work around their schedule at all the only clash with the AAA Championship will be at Monza which will be the same weekend as the Du Quoin round which at this point in time only affects the United States team.

http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/A1_G ... 951_Season

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 13 Aug 2012, 22:02

The Netherlands will have the same driver line-up, with Van Der Lof doing all races, except their home race, where Flinterman will driver.

South africa will swap its drivers (so they will each drive the races the other one hasn't been in the previous year) as part of their evaluation.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Aug 2012, 22:06

Joe Kelly will drive the Team Ireland car for 1951. Meanwhile at Team Germany, Hans Stuck will be our main driver with Paul Pietsch playing backup.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 13 Aug 2012, 22:19

Australia will remain unchanged for 1951

Spain will retain Godia as their main driver and he will be joined by Juan Jover.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 13 Aug 2012, 22:41

I would like to take over the Portuguese team. I will announce the drivers later but Horacio Macedo and Mário de Araújo Cabral are possible options.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Aug 2012, 22:44

tristan1117 wrote:I would like to take over the Portuguese team. I will announce the drivers later but Horacio Macedo and Mário de Araújo Cabral are possible options.

I'll need a team name too.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 14 Aug 2012, 00:19

Samster wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:I would like to take over the Portuguese team. I will announce the drivers later but Horacio Macedo and Mário de Araújo Cabral are possible options.

I'll need a team name too.

Team Portugal will be fine.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 Aug 2012, 07:03

New Zealand will remain unchanged with Jack Tutton. England however, will share the car between Peter Whitehead, Mike Hawthorn and Stirling Moss as all three are competing at different times in Formula 1 so seat-sharing will have to occur. I'll post up before each race who will be running.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 14 Aug 2012, 16:01

Finnish team will continue into 1951. Asser Wallenius is planning to retire in 1952, so he takes reduced schedule and is going to drive in eight races this year. This will help the team evaluating new drivers. Other drivers will be announced later.

Team can confirm that Wallenius will drive at least American leg of the series, which means the race in Brazil and USA.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 14 Aug 2012, 17:36

Team Ultimate de France will Keep Trintignant and Manzon as their drivers. Let me know if their will be calendar clashes so I can add further Frenchmen to the roster.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 14 Aug 2012, 18:03

The German A1 Grand Prix clashes with the British F1 Grand Prix but neither Manzon or Trintignant were entered in that race.

Post by **tommykl** » 14 Aug 2012, 19:42

Belgium keeps Johnny Claes, who will be replaced by André Pilette in Germany. Dominican Republic keeps Rubirosa and Sweden keeps Lundgren.

Post by **Londoner** » 14 Aug 2012, 19:44

kostas22 wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Switzerland will continue with Baron De Graffenried for 1951, with Toni Branca as backup should there be a clash.

Branca
Branca
Branca
Branca
BRANCA

Have I done something rather naughty?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 Aug 2012, 19:58

East Londoner wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Switzerland will continue with Baron De Graffenried for 1951, with Toni Branca as backup should there be a clash.

Branca
Branca
Branca
Branca
BRANCA

Have I done something rather naughty?

Yes. Yes you have. You have caused me severe psychological trauma.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 15 Aug 2012, 18:11

Updated list. Those in bold still need to announce plans.

tommykl
Belgium
Dominican Republic
Sweden

WaffleCat
Thailand
Uruguay

Klon
East Germany
Soviet Union

Shadaza
France

Pointrox
Czechoslovakia

AdrianSutil
England
New Zealand

East Londoner
Switzerland

pasta_maldonado
Argentina

FantometteBR
Brazil

kostas22
Italy
Scotland

Bleu
Finland

FMecha
United States

UncreativeUsername
Monaco
Denmark
Wales

This
Netherlands
South Africa

eurobrun
Australia
Spain

Wizzie
Germany
Ireland

Ferrarist
Canada

Samster
Colombia
Venezuela

andrew
Mexico
Peru

tristan1117
Portugal

Avaliable
Northern Ireland
Guatemala
Chile

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Aug 2012, 18:24

Are there any Chilean drivers available?! Juan Zanelli was killed in WWII and Salazar isn't even born yet...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 15 Aug 2012, 18:31

kostas22 wrote:Are there any Chilean drivers available?! Juan Zanelli was killed in WWII and Salazar isn't even born yet...

Samuel Lancelotti
Jorge Rodrigo Daly

That's all I found for now. Currently looking for Guatemalans...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 15 Aug 2012, 18:36

Looks like Jaroslav Juhan is Guatemala's only hope in this series. And even then his name sounds more like Russian...

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 15 Aug 2012, 19:10

Three Chileans here, Bartholome Ortiz Sanz also did a race in 64 so he could be used until then. There's also a Bolivian but he's only shown as having done that one race and there's few traces of any more Bolivians till just recently.
http://www.driverdb.com/standings/3101-1950/.

As for Guatemala there are a number of them it the results list here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Carrera_Panamericana

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Aug 2012, 19:45

There are a lot of Chileans in '54 apparently...

Raúl Jaras
Tomás L. Bravo
Hernán Videla
Domingo Venturelli
Joaquin Salas Ferrer
Óscar Cremer
Marcos Pliego
Jean Safont

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Aug 2012, 23:53

Is Chile still untaken,I would like to take it.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 16 Aug 2012, 07:03

Cantoni and Bira will stay on in their respective countries,as they are practically the only race drivers from that era that came from their respective countries.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 16 Aug 2012, 11:43

eurobrun wrote:Is Chile still untaken,I would like to take it.

Still free, it's yours for taking.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 16 Aug 2012, 11:57

WaffleCat wrote:Cantoni and Bira will stay on in their respective countries,as they are practically the only race drivers from that era that came from their respective countries.

You'll have Alberto Uria, Óscar González and Asdrúbal Fontes Bayardo for Uruguay too in this era. Uruguay's only other F1 drivers

Oh there's also the Formula Libre, Gran Premio de Uruguay.
http://www.driverdb.com/standings/3159-1952/

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 16 Aug 2012, 12:01

Samster wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Is Chile still untaken,I would like to take it.

Still free, it's yours for taking.

OK, I will take it then.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 16 Aug 2012, 12:04

eurobrun wrote:
Samster wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Is Chile still untaken,I would like to take it.

Still free, it's yours for taking.

OK, I will take it then.

Great, let me know the team name and drivers.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 16 Aug 2012, 12:49

Now,looking at it,seeing Eitel Cantoni's dismal performance last year,Cantoni shall only participate in the European races,while Alberto Uria will compete in Brazil,USA and Australia.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 16 Aug 2012, 17:23

Right, I'll take the glorious state of Guatemala, with the aforementioned Jaroslav Juhan as our only driver. In fact he'll be our only choice for a long time, unless a combined team of all the small Central American states (Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama) is allowed in the future seasons.

The team shall be named simply as Equipo Guatemala. If there will be a combined Central American effort, I shall be more sinister and call it United Fruit Company. :twisted:

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 16 Aug 2012, 17:29

Canada will continue with Al Pease.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 16 Aug 2012, 18:32

For 1951, the VSFK Racing Department (German Democratic Republic -it insists on the team being called this way, being noted as East Germany is patronising unless the Federal Republic of Germany is noted as West Germany - and U.S.S.R.) have decided to continue with their efforts and despite the Soviet car being far below expectations.

OT: Could I "reserve" Poland for 1952-onwards? I have found a list of Polish Rally winners on wikipedia which goes back to before WW2 which would give me an acceptable driver pool.