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Yes that is right, GR running under Pasta for this race with GW running under the privateer Daily Express sponsored ERA car (unless a works team comes out and signs him up but this is unlikely) and RC running a year old Alfa as a privateer in the hopes of adding to his record number of German GP wins. :mrgreen:
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SuperAguri wrote:Yes that is right, GR running under Pasta for this race with GW running under the privateer Daily Express sponsored ERA car (unless a works team comes out and signs him up but this is unlikely) and RC running a year old Alfa as a privateer in the hopes of adding to his record number of German GP wins. :mrgreen:

Richardson might get the full works seat next year if he plays his cards right ;)

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Well, if Peter Whitehead (that was the Peter from Ferrari i got confused with!) is available from Ferrari, BRM takes him, otherwise, the other Peter (Walker) would be good enough.
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This wrote:Well, if Peter Whitehead (that was the Peter from Ferrari i got confused with!) is available from Ferrari, BRM takes him, otherwise, the other Peter (Walker) would be good enough.


No, you can't have Whitehead either. I'm protective of my British drivers :lol:
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Mike Hawthorn's entry has been turned down. He was just off the pace in qualifying despite being in a very good car, while Richardson came incredibly close to qualifying in his own car that had never been to an F1 race, so Richardson's entry, and indeed everybody else, is accepted.
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OK, so Moda92 has not responded to my e-mail, so Scuderia Ambrosiana will withdraw from the race, and East Londoner simply needs to accept for Peter Walker to move to BRM for the race. This means that everyone will qualify, no DNQs.
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tommykl wrote:OK, so Moda92 has not responded to my e-mail, so Scuderia Ambrosiana will withdraw from the race, and East Londoner simply needs to accept for Peter Walker to move to BRM for the race. This means that everyone will qualify, no DNQs.

Well,in case no team-owner allows to use their driver, just put in a random British driver. Really, just... anyone! You can even put Mansells Moustache if no other driver shows up :lol:
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tommykl wrote:OK, so Moda92 has not responded to my e-mail, so Scuderia Ambrosiana will withdraw from the race, and East Londoner simply needs to accept for Peter Walker to move to BRM for the race. This means that everyone will qualify, no DNQs.

Well,in case no team-owner allows to use their driver, just put in a random British driver. Really, just... anyone! You can even put Mansells Moustache if no other driver shows up :lol:

If East Londoner doesn't show up, then I'll give you David Murray, the best rated Brit ;)
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So, East Londoner has until Monday to say whether he'll allow Walker to drive for BRM. I'll be gone until then, and it'll only take seconds to change the performance anyway. The entry list is closed apart from this entry.
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It is now Tuesday, so since east Londoner didn't say anything, David Murray will drive the BRM in Germany. The entry list is definitively closed.
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July 28th, German Grand Prix, qualifying

Coming to Germany, defending champion Giuseppe Farina leads the championship after taking his first win of the year and the foutrh of his career. Incidentally, he is the only driver ever to have more than one career win, the others to have won a race being Chiron, Mauro, Fangio, Serafini, Manzon, Bira and de Graffenried. Second in the championship right now is Consalvo Sanesi, thanks to two second places, the other driver to have scored multiple podiums, Maurice Trintignant is in third. This season is so unprdictable that Peter Whitehead is the only other driver to have scored points more than once!

71. Clemente Biondetti (Scuderia Maremmana)
72. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Scuderia Maremmana)
73. Graham Whitehead (Daily Express)
74. Rudolf Caracciola (Privateer)
75. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
76. José Froilan Gonzalez (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
77. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
78. Hans von Stuck (Scuderia Platé-Varzi)
79. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
80. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
81. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
82. Luigi Villoresi (Ferrari America)
83. Maurice Trintignant (Scuderia Belgio)
84. Tony Bettenhausen (Alexander Racing Team)
85. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
86. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
87. André Simon (Claes Racing Developments)
88. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
89. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
90. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
91. Tony Gaze (Privateer)
92. Chico Landi (Scuderia Commesso)
93. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
94. Piero Taruffi (Team Metcalf GP)
95. André Pilette (Scuderia Belgio)
96. Roger Laurent (Garage Francorchamps)
97. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
98. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
99. Mauri Rose (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
100. Rudi Fischer (Motorsport Bleu)
101. David Murray (British Racing Motors)
102. Paul Pietsch (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
103. Bob Gerard (Team Bentley)
104. Geoff Richardson (Team Bentley)

Again, there are some changes in the lineup. Scuderia Maremmana decided not to keep Tony Rolt after his DNQ at his home race, and revert to a two-car team for the usual drivers. After driving the new BRM in Britain, David Hampshire returns to his own team. BRM tried to sign the Hampshire driver in Britain for Germany, Peter Walker, but after the absence of a reply from HRA, BRM instead signed David Murray for the race.

After hiring Chico Landi and Brian Shawe-Taylor for the French and British Grands Prix, without much success, Platé-Varzi deicded to fall back of Hans von Stuck for the veteran's home race. The team originally intended for Onofre Marimon to drive a second car, but with the Argentine having his entry refused, the team delayed his début to the Italian Grand Prix, where Marimon will drive alongside André Pilette.

Despite an other points finish from Whitehead in Britain, Ferrari decided to continue their driver rotation programme, and Reg Parnell will drive the third Ferrari around the twisty Nürburgring. Peter is therefore without a drive, but his half-brother Graham is not, as the Daily Express newspaper have financed an entry for the plucky Brit, the first sponsored car in a World Championship race.

After failing to make the trip to Silverstone, Ecurie Nationale Belge lost the lead in the entrants' championship, but return this weekend with the usual Trintignant and Pilette in the Alfa Romeo, coupled to a Ferrari for Roger Laurent, who therefore makes his Formula 1 début. The Belgian is realtively unkown, but was accepted by the race organisers after a good performance at the Eifelrennen last month and an impressive showing in the Grand Prix des Frontières at Chimay.

Following the tragic passing of Yves Giraud-Cabantous in the British Grand Prix, Alexander Racing Team only entered two cars for Bettenhausen and Sanesi, with Robert Manzon deciding to sit out the race. Following his decent pace at Silverstone, Tony Gaze has been granted a second entry for this race, while Mike Hawthorn wasn't so lucky. The young Brit will probably get his chance next year thanks to his domination over the Brooklands Memorial trophy, however.

Motorsport Bleu, for the first time this season, have entered two cars, one for the inevitable Bira, the other for the Swiss Rudi Fischer. He drove for the team last year in Switzerland, but with his home race off the calendar and replaced by Germany, where he was certain of qualification, he accepted to drive again.

Jaguar-Aston Martin are still overjoyed by their podium at Silverstone, and want to continue on their good performance. But with Trintignant returning to ENB, they'll have to settle with Mauri Rose and new signing Paul Pietsch. We'll have to see whether they can live up to Maurice's performance.

We also have a new team in the paddock, Team Bentley. The British manufacturer of the Speed-Six have decided to make the jump to Formula 1 with two British drivers: Bob Gerard, recently released from his JAMR contract, and Geoff Richardson, who was suggested by the Daily Express and was more than happy to sign with a works racing team.

But the big news for the German Grand Prix is the return of a legend. At the age of 50, Rudolf Caracciola, three-time European Champion before the war, returns in a private Alfa Romeo, looking for a glorious farewell to the motor racing world. We wish him good luck for the race.
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Like last time, I'll rank the drivers on how they did compared to their experience and equipment. 100 is average, the lower the better.

Giuseppe Farina - 82
Rudi Fischer - 85
David Murray - 86
Reg Parnell - 92
Luigi Villoresi - 92
Manfred von Brauchitsch - 93
Johnny Claes - 93
José Froilan Gonzalez - 94
Dorino Serafini - 96
Chico Landi - 96
Hans Von Stuck - 97
Toulo de Graffenried - 98
Tony Gaze - 98
Roger Laurent - 98
Harry Schell - 98
Tony Bettenhausen - 99
André Simon - 99
Piero Taruffi - 99
Clemente Biondetti - 100
Graham Whitehead - 100
B. Bira - 102
Mauri Rose - 102
André Pilette - 104
Paul Pietsch - 104
Consalvo Sanesi - 105
Stirling Moss - 105
Juan Manuel Fangio - 107
David Hampshire - 109
Louis Chiron - 110
Maurice Trintignant - 112
Bob Gerard - 112
Alberto Ascari - 113
Rudolf Caracciola - 116
Geoff Richardson - 116

Predictions?
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Biondetti lies between P20-25, von Brauchitsch will be somewhere at P12-16
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Before I figure out the times, are JAMR sticking with the Aston-Jaguar, or are you reverting to the Jaguar-Aston?
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Graham Whitehead hopes to qualify in the back middle of he grid but feels the car will probably break down before the hald way mark.
Rudolf Caracciola hopes to qualify easily, even with a year old car as he knows the track like the back of his hand and hopes to see if he can get into the points and get a more long term drive.
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Now it seems we can get a good grid position for now
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Bentley hopes to qualify respectably for their first Formula One outing.
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SuperAguri wrote:Graham Whitehead hopes to qualify in the back middle of he grid but feels the car will probably break down before the hald way mark.
Rudolf Caracciola hopes to qualify easily, even with a year old car as he knows the track like the back of his hand and hopes to see if he can get into the points and get a more long term drive.

34 cars make the grid. There are 34 entrants. Do the math :P
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tommykl wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Graham Whitehead hopes to qualify in the back middle of he grid but feels the car will probably break down before the hald way mark.
Rudolf Caracciola hopes to qualify easily, even with a year old car as he knows the track like the back of his hand and hopes to see if he can get into the points and get a more long term drive.

34 cars make the grid. There are 34 entrants. Do the math :P


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tommykl wrote:Before I figure out the times, are JAMR sticking with the Aston-Jaguar, or are you reverting to the Jaguar-Aston?


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tommykl wrote:Before I figure out the times, are JAMR sticking with the Aston-Jaguar, or are you reverting to the Jaguar-Aston?


Whatever the tag was during the British GP we'll use that tag during that race!

Aston-Jaguar then.
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Bira will be just in the second half, Fischer will surprise and put into top 10. Farina on pole.
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Villoresi being in the top 10, possibly top 8. Schell being in the top 16. That would be my guess
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Full qualifying results

1. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo) - 9:53.7
2. Reg Parnell (Ferrari) - 10:00.8
3. Rudi Fischer (Talbot-Lago-Talbot) - 10:01.4
4. Dorino Serafini (Ferrari) - 10:02.0
5. Toulo de Graffenried (Ferrari) - 10:03.2
6. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Ferrari-Jaguar) - 10:03.3
7. Johnny Claes (Maserati) - 10:03.8
8. Luigi Villoresi (Ferrari) - 10:06.2
9. Tony Bettenhausen (Gordini) - 10:06.5
10. André Simon (Maserati) - 10:07.4
11. B. Bira (Talbot-Lago-Talbot) - 10:07.9
12. José Froilan Gonzalez (Phoenix-Ferrari) - 10:08.0
13. André Pilette (Alfa Romeo) - 10:08.2
14. Harry Schell (Ferrari) - 10:08.5
15. Piero Taruffi (Metcalf) - 10:08.6
16. Consalvo Sanesi (Gordini) - 10:08.7
17. Hans Von Stuck (Maserati) - 10:08.8
18. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo) - 10:08.9
19. Mauri Rose (Aston Martin-Jaguar) - 10:09.7
20. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo) - 10:09.8
21. Chico Landi (Maserati-Ferrari) - 10:09.9
22. Clemente Biondetti (Ferrari-Jaguar) - 10:10.0
23. Paul Pietsch (Aston Martin-Jaguar) - 10:10.9
24. David Murray (BRM) - 10:11.5
25. Maurice Trintignant (Alfa Romeo) - 10:11.7
26. Louis Chiron (Maserati-Ferrari) - 10:12.1
27. Roger Laurent (Ferrari) - 10:12.7
28. Tony Gaze (Alfa Romeo) - 10:14.5
29. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix-Ferrari) - 10:20.4
30. Graham Whitehead (ERA) - 10:21.6
31. David Hampshire (Alta) - 10:23.4
32. Rudolf Caracciola (Alfa Romeo) - 10:26.9
33. Bob Gerard (Bentley) - 10:29.3
34. Geoff Richardson (Bentley) - 10:35.3

Giuseppe Farina takes an expected pole position, surprisingly only the second of his career after France 1950. Compared to expectations, von Brauchitsch surprised everyone again by qualifying well inside the top ten, as did Rudi Fischer. Claes Racing Developments put both their cars into the top ten for the first time in a while.

Other pleasant surprises are Gonzalez is 12th position, 12 seconds faster than his team mate Ascari, and David Murray, who takes the hopeless BRM up to 24th place on the grid!

On the other end of the grid, the Bentleys are massively disappointing, no doubt helped by Gerard and Richardson failing to get a good lap in. They'll have their work cut out for them on race day.
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Shadaza wrote:Villoresi being in the top 10, possibly top 8. Schell being in the top 16. That would be my guess



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Trintignant in a semi-works Alfa-Romeo getting beaten by a BRM... :roll:
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Just for your information, there will be 14 finishers, and no big accidents for once :)
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July 29th 1951, German Grand Prix

Farina got a good start, and while Parnell didn't get a god getaway, blocking the other drivers somewhat, he could pull out a good lead over Fischer, Parnell and de Graffenried. The driver who had the best first lap of them all, however, was Stirling Moss, who was up to 15th position after starting 20th, therefore setting the fastest lap of the race so far. Two drivers didn't make it to the start-finish line to start lap 2, with André Pilette and Mauri Rose both stopped by the side of the road, betrayed by their machines.

On lap 2, Farina had such a decent lead that he started to ease up a little, and was caught by Fischer, with Parnell, de Graffenried and Serafini following. But Farina couldn't see them, and neither could his team when he crossed the line to start lap 3. With Farina not knowing that he was slowing down, Fischer easily caught and passed the Italian to take the race lead. In the meantime, the race witnessed its third retirement in three laps, when the engine let go in Graham Whitehead's ERA, a premature end to the first race for the sponsored car.

Fischer surprisingly started building on his lead over Serafini, who had quite simply passed three cars in a single lap, setting the new fastest lap in the process. Louis Chiron and Roger Laurent then retired, both with mechanical failures.

But Fischer's lead couldn't last, and by the end of lap 5, he was under threat by a group led by Farina, followed by Serafini, de Graffenried and Parnell. But lap 5 would be remembered for one of the most unusual incidents in the series' short history. Around Flugplatz, André Simon, Hans Von Stuck and Maurice Trintignant all suffered different mechanical failures within metres of each other. Surprised by the scene, Bob Gerard lost concentration, and while he could break to avoid a large crash, he still couldn't avoid clipping the front of Simon's Maserati, rupturing the Bentley's rear suspension in the process. Four retirements in a single lap.

But the battle for the lead continued, and while Farina easily passed Fischer for the lead on lap 6, Parnell and Serafini all got stuck behind the Talbot-Lago, with de Graffenried further back, having run wide at the Karussel after being caught out by an early braking from Fischer.

However, not only was Fischer's blocking fair, but it was also very effective. Parnell was the only one who stayed behind, as Serafini also made a mistake trying to pass Fischer, and ended up getting passed by Manfred von Brauchitsch, who was making his way up into the points.

At this point, it was looking like another Farina victory, but the true enthusiasts looking for an exciting championship battle rejoiced as the defending champion and championship leader retired from the lead on lap 7 with gearbox failure, leaving Rudi Fischer and Reg Parnell to fight for the lead, a very unlikely scenario in any other case.

Fischer's lead could only last for so long, though, and on lap 8, Reg Parnell barged his way through at the first corner, pushing Fischer wide in a rough but fair manoeuvre. Fischer lost enough time in the incident to be caught by von Brauchitsch, now in third position. Serafini and de Graffenried followed, rounding out the points.

While one Talbot-Lago was fighting for the podium, the other was broken down by the side of the road, with the fuel pump on Bira's car failing on lap 8. The Thai prince was in seventh place at the time.

Fischer was unable to keep his position safe, and he dropped to third on lap 9 when Toulo de Graffenried made his way past. Serafini passed von Brauchitsch, but momentarily stumbled on the Swiss once more. Consalvo Sanesi then retired from the race, seriously hampering his shot at the title. He was in tenth at that point.

The race continued, but the battle for the win was all but over, as Reg Parnell scored a new fastest lap to further extend his lead. On lap 10, de Graffenried was second, with Fischer still holding on to third place with von Brauchitsch, Serafini and now Villoresi lined up behind the Talbot-Lago. Claes, Bettenhausen, a charging Fangio and Schell rounded out the top ten. They were followed by Gonzalez, Moss, Taruffi, Pietsch, Landi, Biondetti, Murray, Gaze, Ascari, Hampshire, Caracciola and Richardson, leaving 22 cars in the race.

On lap 11, Serafini finally passed Fischer, making for a Ferrari 1-2-3, which became a 1-2-3-4 when Villoresi also passed Fischer on lap 12. This lap saw two retirements, Alberto Ascari and, again, Juan Manuel Fangio, the Argentine's fourth retirement this season. Both were the victims of car trouble. Fischer, meanwhile, wasn't going down without a fight, and he managed to find more speed in the Talbot-Lago, passing Villoresi to retake fourth position.

But while Parnell's victory was near certain, the battle for second was heating up again, as Dorino Serafini was bridging the gap between himself and de Graffenried. By lap 14, the Italian was right behind his team mate. Meanwhile, there were two more retirements, as David Hampshire suffered a transmission failure, with Paul Pietsch skidding on the oil and ending up lightly striking a bank on the side of the circuit, stalling the car.

But back to the battle everyone was keeping their eyes on. On lap 15, Serafini passed de Graffenried to take second position. The race was then down to 17 drivers, when Geoff Richardson's engine failed out of, well, bog last.

With three laps to go, it looked like the points positions were all but decided, with Reg Parnell surely going to win the race, Serafini and de Graffenried in a fair battle for second, with Fischer a distant fourth and Villoresi fifth. 22.8km later, this had all changed with the almost simultaneous retirements of Dorino Serafini and Luigi Villoresi, Stirling Moss also retiring from the race. With Serafini and Moss suffering oil pump issues for one and an engine failure for the other, Villoresi lost control of his car at the Karussel and hit the banking side on, knocking a wheel off of the Ferrari.

This left Parnell still in the lead ahead of de Graffenried, Fischer, von Brauchitsch and a hard-charging Harry Schell, who was looking good to become the first American to score points this season not counting Indianapolis. But he wasn't the only driver with a shot, since while his pace wasn't showing any sign of letting up,k von Brauchitsch's was, leaving not only hope for Schell of taking fourth, but also of the two battling for sixth, Claes and Bettenhausen, to take fifth place, which would do a whole world of good to the both of them.

Indeed, with one lap to go, Schell had already passed von Brauchitsch for fourth, and Bettenhausen and Cales were about to do the same, which they did on the final lap. However, Claes was once again bitterly disappointed as a chance at points had ended up with sixth position for the third time of the season. Bettenhausen, meanwhile, was over the moon at scoring his first points since Switzerland 1950. Even better, he managed to take Schell's slipstream on the final straight and pip his countryman for fourth place on the finish line!

1. Reg Parnell (Ferrari) 3:02:45.0
2. Toulo de Graffenried (Ferrari) +2:22.5
3. Rudi Fischer (Talbot-Lago-Talbot) +4:56.1
4. Tony Bettenhausen (Gordini) +7:40.5
5. Harry Schell (Ferrari) +7:40.7
6. Johnny Claes (Maserati) +8:13.4
7. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Ferrari-Jaguar) +8:46.3
8. José Froilan Gonzalez (Phoenix-Ferrari) +1 lap
9. Piero Taruffi (Metcalf) +1 lap
10. Clemente Biondetti (Ferrari-Jaguar) +1 lap
11. Chico Landi (Maserati-Ferrari) +1 lap
12. Tony Gaze (Alfa Romeo) +1 lap
13. David Murray (BRM) +1 lap
14. Rudolf Caracciola (Alfa Romeo) +2 laps
Ret. Dorino Serafini (Ferrari) +3 laps/Oil pump
Ret. Luigi Villoresi (Ferrari) +3 laps/Accident
Ret. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo) +3 laps/Engine
Ret. Geoff Richardson (Bentley) +5 laps/Engine
Ret. Paul Pietsch (Aston Martin-Jaguar) +6 laps/Spun off
Ret. David Hampshire (Alta) +6 laps/Transmission
Ret. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo) +7 laps/Suspension
Ret. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix-Ferrari) +8 laps/Engine
Ret. Consalvo Sanesi (Gordini) +10 laps/Overheating
Ret. B. Bira (Talbot-Lago-Talbot) +11 laps/Fuel pump
Ret. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo) +12 laps/Gearbox
Ret. André Simon (Maserati) +14 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Hans Von Stuck (Maserati) +14 laps/Engine
Ret. Maurice Trintignant (Alfa Romeo) +14 laps/Steering
Ret. Bob Gerard (Bentley) +14 laps/Accident
Ret. Louis Chiron (Maserati-Ferrari) +15 laps/Suspension
Ret. Roger Laurent (Ferrari) +15 laps/Transmission
Ret. Graham Whitehead (ERA) +16 laps/Engine
Ret. André Pilette (Alfa Romeo) +18 laps/Engine
Ret. Mauri Rose (Aston Martin-Jaguar) +18 laps/Gearbox

Fastest lap: Reg Parnell (Ferrari) - 9:56.2

Championship standings
Driver's championship
1. Giuseppe Farina - 19
2. Toulo de Graffenried - 14
3. Consalvo Sanesi - 12
4. Reg Parnell - 11
5. Maurice Trintignant - 10
6. Robert Manzon - 9 (1 win, 3 Rets)
7. Troy Ruttman - 9 (1 win)
8. B. Bira - 8
9. André Pilette - 6 (1 2nd, 1 7th)
10. Jimmy Jackson - 6 (1 2nd)
11. Peter Whitehead - 5
12. Dorino Serafini - 4 (1 3rd, 1 6th)
13. Bill Vukovich - 4 (1 3rd)
14. Rudi Fischer - 4 (1 3rd)
15. Manfred von Brauchitsch - 3 (1 4th, 1 7th)
16. Juan Manuel Fangio - 3 (1 4th, 4 Rets)
17. Tony Bettenhausen - 3 (1 4th, 3 Rets)
18. Paul Pietsch - 3 (1 4th, 1 Ret)
19. Myron Fohr - 3 (1 4th)
20. Charles Van Acker - 2 (1 5th, 1 8th)
21. Piero Taruffi - 2 (1 5th, 1 9th)
22. Franco Rol - 2 (1 5th, 1 11th, 1 Ret)
23. Harry Schell - 2 (1 5th, 1 Ret)

Constructor's championship
1. Alfa Romeo - 26
2. Ferrari - 25
3. Gordini - 15
4. Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser - 9
5. Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 8
6. Aston Martin-Jaguar - 4
7. Ferrari-Jaguar - 3
8. Maserati - 2 (1 5th, 2 6ths)
9. Metcalf - 2 (1 5th, 1 11th)

Entrant's championship
1. Scuderia Ferrari - 26
2. Alfa Romeo SpA - 25
3. Alexander Racing Team - 18
4. Ecurie Nationale Belge - 16
5. Motorsport Bleu - 12
6. Ferrari America - 11
7. Jaguar-Aston Martin Racing - 4
8. Scuderia Maremmana - 3
9. Team Metcalf GP - 2 (1 5th, 1 9th)
10. Redman Racing Team - 2 (1 5th, 1 11th)

Entry spots allowed for the next races
Motorsport Bleu - 8
Redman Racing Team - 8
Team Metcalf GP - 8
Scuderia Maremmana - 8
Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing - 8
Ecurie Albertini - 8
Ecurie Nationale Belge (Scuderia Belgio, Equipe de France, Garage Francorchamps) - 7
Scuderia Platé-Varzi - 7
Scuderia Ferrari - 6
Alfa Romeo SpA - 6
Alexander Racing Team - 5
Claes Racing Developments - 5
Scuderia Ambrosiana - 5
Graham Whitehead - 5
Phoenix Racing Organisation - 4
Scuderia Commesso - 4
Aldo Gordini - 4
Louis Gérard - 4
Tony Gaze - 4
Rudolf Caracciola - 4
British Racing Motors - 4
Ferrari America - 3
Geoff Richardson - 3
Mike Hawthorn - 3
All-Ireland Motorsport - 3
Hampshire Racing Alliance - 2
Daily Express - 2
Team Bentley - 1
Eventual new teams - 2

The next race is at Zandvoort, where 22 cars will start the race. Since Farina is the only driver who can possibly have to drop points at the end of the season, and that there are a maximum of 18 points available, any driver who has already scored points in 1951 can still theoretically win the title.
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Stanley Johnson-Jackson wrote: Well, that was dissapointing. Ho hum, there's no point dwelling on the past, forward to the next race and a Bentley victory!!!

Is there any way to improve the Bentley?
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pasta_maldonado wrote:
Stanley Johnson-Jackson wrote: Well, that was dissapointing. Ho hum, there's no point dwelling on the past, forward to the next race and a Bentley victory!!!

Is there any way to improve the Bentley?

Better results. Quite simply, finishing a race will get you a step higher than the privateers and, depending on the finish, some defunct teams, like Jaguar and Aston Martin from last season. Or you can just keep on entering until the influence from the aforementioned teams disappears and you move highre in the pecking order.

In simple terms, the better your results in the last 10 races were, the better you're likely to be in the next race. This is how I carry performance over to the next season.

Oh, and don't forget, you've only got one entry for the rest of the season, use it wisely ;)
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Fischer and Bira will drive two remaining races, I will look further to see if I can field other drivers.
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Harry Schell takes our first ever points finish of a non-Indy round, he nearly had 4th but we are happy our team is going from strength to strength.
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Shadaza wrote:Harry Schell takes our first ever points finish of a non-Indy round, he nearly had 4th but we are happy our team is going from strength to strength.


Out of interest, are you still only running one car at Zandvoort? Because I want to put one of my drivers in an American Ferrari at Monza, for a full attack at home victory and beating the Alfa Romeos.
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Shadaza wrote:Harry Schell takes our first ever points finish of a non-Indy round, he nearly had 4th but we are happy our team is going from strength to strength.


Out of interest, are you still only running one car at Zandvoort? Because I want to put one of my drivers in an American Ferrari at Monza, for a full attack at home victory and beating the Alfa Romeos.

He's got just one car at Zandvoort, for Schell, but unless he gets a good result, he only gets two cars for Monza, and he's already got Villoresi and Ruttman there...
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Oh, it's great to get back in the points. The car worked well towards the end but the overall speed was lacking a little. It's been a difficult weekend for the team and everyone connected since Yves' passing so I've dedicated this 4th place to him.
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Another top-10 finish. Not too bad.
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