The HRT thread

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 10 Sep 2012, 07:29

solarcold wrote:I need help. About those cards from HRT you all seem to be offering. How do I? I've seen no info on the official site. Still available? Free or for fee?

Just sign up to the fan zone and it's free!

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 10 Sep 2012, 11:19

Im still waiting since May!

Back to the track, hopefully HRT will bring their upgrades to Singapore, and have a nice battle with the Marussias.

Im not sure about Fri prac though. Its a rare occasion that Karthikeyan hasnt raced at Singapore before, so ideally he would want to take part in both sessions, for track knowledge, and his experience in feedback on the new parts.

But money counts, so probably Ma (considering Asian races comming up and possible more sponsors comming in) would get more time.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 10 Sep 2012, 13:51

And somewhat unfortunately for HRT, it seems Marussia have some upgrades planned for Singapore as well.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 10 Sep 2012, 16:02

AndreaModa wrote:And somewhat unfortunately for HRT, it seems Marussia have some upgrades planned for Singapore as well.

This year is year 1 for me, just have to stick close to Marussia, let's hope the new upgrades for HRT work

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 10 Sep 2012, 16:04

cbbcisace wrote:
solarcold wrote:I need help. About those cards from HRT you all seem to be offering. How do I? I've seen no info on the official site. Still available? Free or for fee?

Just sign up to the fan zone and it's free!

Thanks a lot! I've already signed up!

S951 · Post by **S951** » 10 Sep 2012, 22:28

pedro to finish 10th in a mad race leap frogs caterham you heard it here first!!

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 10 Sep 2012, 22:35

S951 wrote:pedro to finish 10th in a mad race leap frogs caterham you heard it here first!!

I've had that feeling but only to leapfrog Marussia not Caterham.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 11 Sep 2012, 20:29

What do HRT need to jump Marussia? A 13th?

Post by **mario** » 11 Sep 2012, 20:41

AdrianSutil wrote:What do HRT need to jump Marussia? A 13th?

At the moment, yes - Marussia's best finishes this season are two 14th places (in Australia and Monaco), so either a 13th place or three 14th places would do the trick.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Sep 2012, 00:54

mario wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:What do HRT need to jump Marussia? A 13th?

At the moment, yes - Marussia's best finishes this season are two 14th places (in Australia and Monaco), so either a 13th place or three 14th places would do the trick.

Chances a slim. But all it could take is a sudden downpour at Singapore or Japan and have 5 or 6 cars slide off the track.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 12 Sep 2012, 01:31

AdrianSutil wrote:
mario wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:What do HRT need to jump Marussia? A 13th?

At the moment, yes - Marussia's best finishes this season are two 14th places (in Australia and Monaco), so either a 13th place or three 14th places would do the trick.

Chances a slim. But all it could take is a sudden downpour at Singapore or Japan and have 5 or 6 cars slide off the track.

I hope this year is the first bathplugging year we get rain during the Singapore race. Then I can make Singapour jokes instead of Singabore jokes, oh and we will get a cracking race. We've already seen HRT make a strategy gamble at the start of Malaysia, and execute that fairly well until the track dried out, so if it's wet at some point we could see some magic.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 12 Sep 2012, 20:40

Something to note today from HRT.

Dani Clos was involved in a Telefonica meeting/event today and interestingly Tuenti are rumoured to sponsor the team next year in which Telefonica owns!

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 12 Sep 2012, 22:16

RealRacingRoots wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
mario wrote:At the moment, yes - Marussia's best finishes this season are two 14th places (in Australia and Monaco), so either a 13th place or three 14th places would do the trick.

Chances a slim. But all it could take is a sudden downpour at Singapore or Japan and have 5 or 6 cars slide off the track.

I hope this year is the first bathplugging year we get rain during the Singapore race. Then I can make Singapour jokes instead of Singabore jokes, oh and we will get a cracking race. We've already seen HRT make a strategy gamble at the start of Malaysia, and execute that fairly well until the track dried out, so if it's wet at some point we could see some magic.

Well,September has been quite a rainy month here in Singapore,especially after a dry summer for me.However,it hasn't rained at night for about a month.

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 13 Sep 2012, 10:51

MQH driving Singapore FP1

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 13 Sep 2012, 11:00

GwilymJJames wrote:MQH driving Singapore FP1

This convinces me even more that he takes Narain's seat next year..

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 13 Sep 2012, 11:07

On Ma, I think he did very well in Italy, considering the scenarios. Ok, he was 2 secs (?) off DLR, but in the 107% bracket which was a positive result.

Malaysia is a different scenario though!

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 13 Sep 2012, 12:03

David AGS wrote:On Ma, I think he did very well in Italy, considering the scenarios. Ok, he was 2 secs (?) off DLR, but in the 107% bracket which was a positive result.

Malaysia is a different scenario though!

He had high downforce set up on his car too compared to Pedro's low downfornce set up.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 13 Sep 2012, 19:20

cbbcisace wrote:Dani Clos was involved in a Telefonica meeting/event today and interestingly Tuenti are rumoured to sponsor the team next year in which Telefonica owns!

If that's true, then Dani Clos will have some serious backing, making him a real contender for a seat in 2013.
MQH is an unlikely option - mostly because of his limited experience in single-seaters. I doubt HRT is that desperate for cash to hire him.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 13 Sep 2012, 20:17

Pointrox wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:Dani Clos was involved in a Telefonica meeting/event today and interestingly Tuenti are rumoured to sponsor the team next year in which Telefonica owns!

If that's true, then Dani Clos will have some serious backing, making him a real contender for a seat in 2013.
MQH is an unlikely option - mostly because of his limited experience in single-seaters. I doubt HRT is that desperate for cash to hire him.

I honestly see Ma in all FP1 sessions next year minimum, easy to get some good money for the team.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 Sep 2012, 00:17

cbbcisace wrote:
Pointrox wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:Dani Clos was involved in a Telefonica meeting/event today and interestingly Tuenti are rumoured to sponsor the team next year in which Telefonica owns!

If that's true, then Dani Clos will have some serious backing, making him a real contender for a seat in 2013.
MQH is an unlikely option - mostly because of his limited experience in single-seaters. I doubt HRT is that desperate for cash to hire him.

I honestly see Ma in all FP1 sessions next year minimum, easy to get some good money for the team.

The experience of De La Rosa paired with the youthful exuberance of Dani Clos with Ma pumping some decent cash in to the team. I'd be seriously excited for HRT if this is where they go in 2013.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 14 Sep 2012, 07:24

I think that is the way they are going to go as well!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 Sep 2012, 07:27

cbbcisace wrote:I think that is the way they are going to go as well!

I would agree with that.

Eryx · Post by **Eryx** » 14 Sep 2012, 15:37

Im very excited for HRT everythings finally working for them. . .Now if they could just get a faster car there sorted!

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 14 Sep 2012, 16:23

Eryx wrote:Im very excited for HRT everythings finally working for them. . .Now if they could just get a faster car there sorted!

I'm told that the F113 is finally a car HRT can be proud of, hope it's true!

Post by **Ataxia** » 14 Sep 2012, 16:45

cbbcisace wrote:
Eryx wrote:Im very excited for HRT everythings finally working for them. . .Now if they could just get a faster car there sorted!

I'm told that the F113 is finally a car HRT can be proud of, hope it's true!

With PDLR's input, I'm sure it will be.

I can remember when the team in 2010; Grupo Hispania wanted to make the team capitalise on it's Spanish nationality but clearly had no idea how. Now that Thesan own the team and Perez-Sala heads up the racing operation, there's clear direction. All of the right noises are being made, and having Pedro helps as he can drive the car quickly AND help develop next years' car. Of course, finance is still a sticking point, but it's really good to see that the team is far more secure than before.

I think promoting Clos to a race seat would be a very sound idea indeed. If having a pair of Spanish drivers can bring in sponsorship like the rumoured Tuenti deal, then it can only be a bonus. I think the best option for him is to start racing as soon as possible; if this comes after India then so be it. However, Ma is another great asset to have. Tapping into the Asian market is something F1 has been trying to do for years; Alex Yoong, for example, is a great example of this. There is some Asian money in Caterham, but of course that's more down to the fact that Tony Fernandes owns the team and heads up AirAsia too.

China has an economy that is increasing in size, and if Ma Qing Hua can help bring awareness of F1 to China, big business execs might be able to indulge in the passion in the sport and use F1 for international exposure.

HRT don't have much in the way of resources or staff (or stamps, apparently...please can I have my membership card now?), but credit is certainly due to its marketing department if they can thrash out big deals with Spanish and Chinese companies alike.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 Sep 2012, 16:50

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:
Eryx wrote:Im very excited for HRT everythings finally working for them. . .Now if they could just get a faster car there sorted!

I'm told that the F113 is finally a car HRT can be proud of, hope it's true!

With PDLR's input, I'm sure it will be.

I can remember when the team in 2010; Grupo Hispania wanted to make the team capitalise on it's Spanish nationality but clearly had no idea how. Now that Thesan own the team and Perez-Sala heads up the racing operation, there's clear direction. All of the right noises are being made, and having Pedro helps as he can drive the car quickly AND help develop next years' car. Of course, finance is still a sticking point, but it's really good to see that the team is far more secure than before.

I think promoting Clos to a race seat would be a very sound idea indeed. If having a pair of Spanish drivers can bring in sponsorship like the rumoured Tuenti deal, then it can only be a bonus. I think the best option for him is to start racing as soon as possible; if this comes after India then so be it. However, Ma is another great asset to have. Tapping into the Asian market is something F1 has been trying to do for years; Alex Yoong, for example, is a great example of this. There is some Asian money in Caterham, but of course that's more down to the fact that Tony Fernandes owns the team and heads up AirAsia too.

China has an economy that is increasing in size, and if Ma Qing Hua can help bring awareness of F1 to China, big business execs might be able to indulge in the passion in the sport and use F1 for international exposure.

HRT don't have much in the way of resources or staff (or stamps, apparently...please can I have my membership card now?), but credit is certainly due to its marketing department if they can thrash out big deals with Spanish and Chinese companies alike.

The best thing to do would be to have Ma drive in Singapore and Japan, racs that Chinese fans could easily get to, with Clos driving in all the other races except for India, where Cucumber would drive.

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 14 Sep 2012, 16:52

Something I've been wondering and can't find anything about - do Thesan own any companies other than HRT?

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:02

GwilymJJames wrote:Something I've been wondering and can't find anything about - do Thesan own any companies other than HRT?

I know they own at least one more company just can't think of the name...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Sep 2012, 18:26

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Tapping into the Asian market is something F1 has been trying to do for years; Alex Yoong, for example, is a great example of this. There is some Asian money in Caterham, but of course that's more down to the fact that Tony Fernandes owns the team and heads up AirAsia too.

But there again, although his parents remained in Malaysia, Tony Fernandes is English-educated - he went to Epsom College, a boarding school in Surrey, to the south-west of London (5 miles from the Royal London Borough of Kingston-on-Thames). And his early business career was by working alongside Richard Branson (so I learnt when he returned to my old school to give a talk).

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Sep 2012, 02:21

cbbcisace wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:Something I've been wondering and can't find anything about - do Thesan own any companies other than HRT?

I know they own at least one more company just can't think of the name...

They own Pizza Marzano (unknown Pizza-store chain to me), some small audiovisual company and Tiendas Aurgi, which is a known auto parts lowcost store chain around Madrid (got my brake pads and oil changed there for less than 70€!!!)

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 15 Sep 2012, 06:57

Promoting Clos to the second seat would be a wise decision. Pedro would tutor him surely and since they're both Spanish, there wouldn't be any language barriers. They would be the perfect example of master and student.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 15 Sep 2012, 11:38

Shizuka wrote:Promoting Clos to the second seat would be a wise decision. Pedro would tutor him surely and since they're both Spanish, there wouldn't be any language barriers. They would be the perfect example of master and student.

It could be one of the strongest pairings next year, despite being at the back.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Sep 2012, 11:44

AdrianSutil wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Promoting Clos to the second seat would be a wise decision. Pedro would tutor him surely and since they're both Spanish, there wouldn't be any language barriers. They would be the perfect example of master and student.

It could be one of the strongest pairings next year, despite being at the back.

I think it is possible, it would be good for the team.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 17 Sep 2012, 18:40

http://sports.ndtv.com/formula-1/news/i ... 013-season

Bit of Optimism from Narain saying he "hopes" to stay with the team in 2013.

No chance in my opinion.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 17 Sep 2012, 19:09

cbbcisace wrote:http://sports.ndtv.com/formula-1/news/item/196690-narain-karthikeyan-hopes-to-stay-with-hrt-for-2013-season

Bit of Optimism from Narain saying he "hopes" to stay with the team in 2013.

No chance in my opinion.

More chance of Mr. Party Animal Nick Heidfeld winning a race.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 17 Sep 2012, 19:54

redbulljack14 wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:http://sports.ndtv.com/formula-1/news/item/196690-narain-karthikeyan-hopes-to-stay-with-hrt-for-2013-season

Bit of Optimism from Narain saying he "hopes" to stay with the team in 2013.

No chance in my opinion.

More chance of Mr. Party Animal Nick Heidfeld winning a race.

For Narain to mention it this early in the season, must know he is leaving the team

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 17 Sep 2012, 20:48

Chief Designer
HRT Formula One Team
June 2012 – Present (4 months) Madrid, Spain

Chief Designer responsible for car design plus complete set-up and management of Design Office.

That is Mark Tatham's profile on linked in, quite interesting as I have been told at technical people are now based in Madrid not Germany.

Eryx · Post by **Eryx** » 19 Sep 2012, 18:09

Do you think next year is when HRT will A) Qualify for Australia B)Outqualify Marussia on a more permanent basis? C)Possibly push caterham a tad. . .i dont think there anywhere near close to outqualifying them unless they produce a miracle car. . .but they can get close

HRT are like minardi in so many ways.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 19 Sep 2012, 19:40

Eryx wrote:Do you think next year is when HRT will A) Qualify for Australia B)Outqualify Marussia on a more permanent basis? C)Possibly push caterham a tad. . .i dont think there anywhere near close to outqualifying them unless they produce a miracle car. . .but they can get close

HRT are like minardi in so many ways.

Yes on all three, but that's my HRT bias

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 Sep 2012, 19:42

cbbcisace wrote:
Eryx wrote:Do you think next year is when HRT will A) Qualify for Australia B)Outqualify Marussia on a more permanent basis? C)Possibly push caterham a tad. . .i dont think there anywhere near close to outqualifying them unless they produce a miracle car. . .but they can get close

HRT are like minardi in so many ways.

Yes on all three, but that's my HRT bias

I swear you haven't posted outside of this thread