Your Reject of the Race - Korea

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:06

3rd: Andrew Benson - His tweets angered me enough that I unfollowed the jackass. Get him off the BBC. I want him gone as soon as.

2nd: Kamui Kobayashi - Today's first lap nutcase award goes to this fella. Talk about two birds with one stone, eh?

ROTR: The Marshalls - Well done, It only took you guys 8 laps to move a car parked in an area designed to let you move it. :roll:

Pamphlet · Post by **Pamphlet** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:15

Mexicola wrote:3rd: Andrew Benson - His tweets angered me enough that I unfollowed the jackass. Get him off the BBC. I want him gone as soon as.

Uh, what? All of his race tweets are true. Even the ridiculous one about Kobayashi. He lacks the pace and the sponsorship required to stay with the team. If it's not a 100% thing as AB says then it's a 99% thing.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:27

Pamphlet wrote:
Mexicola wrote:3rd: Andrew Benson - His tweets angered me enough that I unfollowed the jackass. Get him off the BBC. I want him gone as soon as.

Uh, what? All of his race tweets are true. Even the ridiculous one about Kobayashi. He lacks the pace and the sponsorship required to stay with the team. If it's not a 100% thing as AB says then it's a 99% thing.

Kobayashi has the pace, he's just pushing himself too hard to try and retain the drive. Hence what happened today. But yeah, I see nothing really that wrong with Benson's tweets.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:31

Runner up: McLaren - what the bathplug was that? Hardly any pace, Jenson was unlucky to be banzai'd by Kamui-san, but Hamilton was struggling for grip all day long.

WINNER: The Marshals - again, what the bathplug was that mess? Someone could have PUSHED that car backwards! Also, why did no one run out and get that debris of the track?

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:45

Korea International Circuit-WHY IN BATHPLUGGING HWNSNSBM'S BATHPLUGGING NAME ARE WE RACING HERE?
McMerc-Button out after lap 1,Hammy plays in astroturf,not their day.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:51

WaffleCat wrote:Korea International Circuit-WHY IN BATHPLUGGING HWNSNSBM'S BATHPLUGGING NAME ARE WE RACING HERE?

Actually, the track's quite good in my opinion. It has a long straight, a fast section, and then a tight section, and only a few corners have run offs.It's much better than Bahrain, Abby dabby, or any other run-off drome.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 14 Oct 2012, 09:55

pasta_maldonado wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:Korea International Circuit-WHY IN BATHPLUGGING HWNSNSBM'S BATHPLUGGING NAME ARE WE RACING HERE?

Actually, the track's quite good in my opinion. It has a long straight, a fast section, and then a tight section, and only a few corners have run offs.It's much better than Bahrain, Abby dabby, or any other run-off drome.

I agree. It's a bit like Istanbul - anywhere other than where it is and it'd be a brilliant track.

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 14 Oct 2012, 10:18

1. Kobayashi
2. McLaren

Honorable mention to the artificial grass (I don't know if it's the right English word to say it), it's the first time I remember to have seen it tear away and cling on cars.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 Oct 2012, 10:27

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Honorable mention to the artificial grass (I don't know if it's the right English word to say it).

No that's OK. Your English seems to have improved since you registered here

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 Oct 2012, 10:31

eurobrun wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Honorable mention to the artificial grass (I don't know if it's the right English word to say it).

No that's OK. Your English seems to have improved since you registered here

That's correct. Another english term we have for it is "astroturf" but artificial grass is good too

I agree with eurobrun here that your English has improved, which is great because I always hear English is one of the hardest languages to learn

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 Oct 2012, 10:35

pasta_maldonado wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Honorable mention to the artificial grass (I don't know if it's the right English word to say it).

No that's OK. Your English seems to have improved since you registered here

That's correct. Another english term we have for it is "astroturf" but artificial grass is good too I agree with eurobrun here that your English has improved, which is great because I always hear English is one of the hardest languages to learn

I know, her English is better than at least half of my Facebook friends

McDuck · Post by **McDuck** » 14 Oct 2012, 10:49

ROTR: Unwelcome guests

The Korean girl interrupting Vettel's interview and asking him for his hat.

Astroturf on Hamilton's car.

Gangnam-steria running rampant.

More avoidable first lap crashes.

Another lifeless Tilke-drome.

Bad marshals.

Ferrari's late season development slump.

Brackley's continued incompetence.

Bruno Senna's continued lack of speed.

Caterham's lack of improvement.

A boring race and predictable Redbull cakewalk after turn 1.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 Oct 2012, 11:33

My nominations:

1.- The Yeongam Circuit - Boring track, unfinished works, incompetent marshalls, and, to top it all, the astroturf at one of the corners gets shredded and one of the shreds gets hanged into Hamilton's car. Also, what the heck was Psy's guy waving the checkered flag? It looked as if it was a robot doing that, waving it slowly with a stupid smug on his face.
2.- McLaren - I can't possibly understand what happened with them at this race. Button was knocked out in Q2 and retired after being hit by Kobayashi on the first lap, and Hamilton suffers with tyre and handling troubles all race long, resulting in him being humiliated by both STRs.
3.- Kamui Kobayashi - What the hell Kamui? That podium in Japan was one of the most beautiful things we've seen this year, but taking out both Button and Rosberg on the first lap was not how you should have backed it up. Not that Sauber was any competitive today, but that was adding injury to insult.

tc3j3r · Post by **tc3j3r** » 14 Oct 2012, 12:40

Kamui Kobayashi - "What an idiot" / Hero to Zero / "Yes, McLaren did choose the right Sauber driver" etc.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 14 Oct 2012, 12:43

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Pamphlet wrote:
Mexicola wrote:3rd: Andrew Benson - His tweets angered me enough that I unfollowed the jackass. Get him off the BBC. I want him gone as soon as.

Uh, what? All of his race tweets are true. Even the ridiculous one about Kobayashi. He lacks the pace and the sponsorship required to stay with the team. If it's not a 100% thing as AB says then it's a 99% thing.

Kobayashi has the pace, he's just pushing himself too hard to try and retain the drive. Hence what happened today. But yeah, I see nothing really that wrong with Benson's tweets.

The thing that annoys me is how Benson writes in a matter of fact manner without a sure source to prove his statements. Take this article for example. Until Sauber have said "Kobayashi's gone" or "Hulkenburg's part of our line-up for next year", he's talking crap.

Pamphlet wrote:He lacks the pace and the sponsorship required to stay with the team.

Where did you get this from? I don't recall Sauber saying such a thing.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 14 Oct 2012, 12:55

Mexicola wrote:
Pamphlet wrote:He lacks the pace and the sponsorship required to stay with the team.

Where did you get this from? I don't recall Sauber saying such a thing.

It's been mentioned before that Kobayashi needs to find sponsorship. He currently doesn't bring any.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 14 Oct 2012, 13:06

Eddie Jordan for thinking that Charles Pic will go to Caterham next year.

Minardi Man · Post by **Minardi Man** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:08

Korea

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:15

Definitely has to go to the AstroTurf for what has to be the strangest event I've seen.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:24

Well, a good plethora of rejects here, but the main ones can only be...

1.- Mercedes-powered teams: Granted, Nico-Nico and JB were clobbered by Kamikaze Cowboy, but Schumi was just dundling around the track, Hamilton had a McLaren that was falling into pieces (and gaining astro-turf, mind you) and Di Resta was annonymous. The Hulk was the only Mercedes-powered man today.
2.- Astro-turf: How difficult is to install artificial grass? In Korea, too much.

The damn team orders award goes to Ferrari for the "Felipe, you're too close to Fernando. Back off". Al least we can say that Fernando, Felipe is faster than you till the end of the season.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:27

Kobayashi, from hero in Japan to zero in Korea

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:28

Bronze: McLaren, frankly if Hamilton had missed Q2 yesterday I doubt it would have made much difference!

Silver: The circuit - what about 10 laps yellows in the DRS zone becuase a car off the side of the track? That stupid astroturf was almost as bad as the drain covers in China 2005.

Gold: Kamui Kobayashi - way NOT to stay in F1 next year.

Post by **Ataxia** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:39

Two choices from me:

Gangnam Style - For ensuring that Sky did something SO cringeworthy it almost rivals ITV's last race. Rather overplayed as well.
The Circuit - For having the greyest, bleakest atmosphere possible, crap marshalling and also for sub-par astroturf. Oh, and for having less scenery than the inside of a cardboard box.

I almost regret taking the time to watch the race, it was so dull and insipid.

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:40

Two stick out in my mind:

The first would be Kobayashi. That is the first time in a long while (if at all) that I saw that kind of incident. It looked so amateurish; I don't know how to put it. This hurts even more because this was on the back of his podium finish at Japan. Podium aside, I think he needs to stop driving hard and drive smart; that is if he wants to keep his ride.

The second would be the Korean Grand Prix in general. The track itself is good, but there are so many things wrong with it. Why is there astro turf coming up from the ground? Why did they let PSY come in and perform Gagnam Style? Why are the marshalls so damn incompetent; seriously, EIGHT LAPS to remove a car that was mostly off the circuit to begin with? And this is a GP that I WANT to like, but it just seems so bad. At least with Abu Dhabi and Bahrain the tracks are actually built well (though we can't forget about that drain cover coming up in China a few years ago) despite their blandness. And as far as PSY goes, that's like having LMFAO come in at the US Grand Prix performing Party Rock Anthem. I'd say this is the third worst circuit ever to grace a F1 calender, the other two being Caesar's Palace and Dallas in 1984.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 14 Oct 2012, 14:52

Newey's goggles. :geek:

Post by **Londoner** » 14 Oct 2012, 15:22

This is probably the most hotly-contested ROTR since...Valencia I think.

Korean Grand Prix - Dafuq was that? Marshalls so incompetent that they don't move Rosberg's stricken Merc for almost 10 laps, which ruined the race as by the time it was eventually moved, the field was strung out. Then the astroturf farce (I was half laughing, half facepalming at the end), computer-generated advertising and using this PSY guy. Just how did this circuit make it into F1?

McLaren - What could go wrong, did go wrong. :lol:

Mercedes - Say goodbye to your F1 career Lewis, you're heading into this hellhole next year...

Kamui Kobayashi - Dear HWNSNBM, what the hell was that? Wipes out Button and Rosberg at the start, and trundles around for a while. I think he's just cost himself his Sauber seat with this performance.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 14 Oct 2012, 15:30

In a race where nobody stood up and said "I am the Reject of the Race" other than Kamui, he is probably going to win the award. However, I have to agree that the Korean GP is a farce; as Wil Buxton wrote on Reddit the other day, the place has absolutely no atmospehere. Where were the crowds? What were the marshals doing? Quite frankly, the only question is: Why are we here? In an age where we are losing circuits at an alarming rate, why is Yeognam here? Apparently, Bernie doesn't even want this race anymore so why are we here?

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 14 Oct 2012, 15:32

East Londoner wrote:Korean Grand Prix - [...] computer-generated advertising

As I said on the last page, they were there in Suzuka too, and aren't really related to the Korean GP anyway, more to FOM.

coloni_subaru · Post by **coloni_subaru** » 14 Oct 2012, 18:33

Lots of options today, but here goes:

3rd Mercedes for being about as slow as they possibly can be
2nd Williams for being even slower than Mercedes
1st Kamui for probably cementing his departure from Sauber (and where is left for him to go?)

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 14 Oct 2012, 18:40

Obviously the Marshals and the Astroturf, and also Sky for allowing Mark "My English is actually worse than Kobayashi's" Blundell back on the television.

But in terms of the actual race, obviously 1) Kobayashi and I would say, after a toss-up between the 2 very slow teams, 2) Mercedes (just beating Williams)

Post by **Nuppiz** » 14 Oct 2012, 19:00

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Pamphlet wrote:Korea - Appalling. Why are we racing here again? Even the drivers hate it. Horrible track, horrible astroturf, horrible marshals, horrible everything. Oh, and PSY is terrible.

This.

I agree.

pasta_maldonado wrote:I agree with eurobrun here that your English has improved, which is great because I always hear English is one of the hardest languages to learn

I hear the same about Finnish. Which is quite accurate, considering that about 50% of our populace cannot write it properly...

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 14 Oct 2012, 19:14

I give my ROTR to Korea Grand Prix itself. Eight laps to marshalls to remove rosberg's car is pretty ridiculous. Also, the carpet incident with Hamilton was laughable.

Special mention to Kobayashi, Williams, Mercedes and Mclaren.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 14 Oct 2012, 21:52

For the reasons everyone's already said:
3. Korean GP astroturf
2. Korean GP marshalling
1. Kobayashi

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 14 Oct 2012, 22:13

Ferrarist wrote:
pi314159 wrote:I forgot that computer generated LG advertising on the start-finish line. I really don't want to see something like this again.

For real? Like an artificially added ad banner? Wow, they did the same trick already at the very first WTCC race in 2005.

They were doing it during the 2001 Indianapolis 500 on the racing surface, but that was only to display who the leader of the race was. It was the epitome of pointless.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 15 Oct 2012, 07:21

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:I almost regret taking the time to watch the race, it was so dull and insipid.

Do a paper round like me then and miss half the race

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 15 Oct 2012, 07:57

Enoch loves the opportunity to give an inanimate object ROTR, so I'm pretty sure it'll be astroturf. Although, maybe inanimate isn't an entirely accurate description - it did appear to have a mind of its own...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Oct 2012, 08:07

Warren Hughes wrote:Enoch loves the opportunity to give an inanimate object ROTR, so I'm pretty sure it'll be astroturf. Although, maybe inanimate isn't an entirely accurate description - it did appear to have a mind of its own...

I guess it just wanted to break free from the bounds of the Yeongam circuit.

McDuck · Post by **McDuck** » 15 Oct 2012, 14:48

WaffleCat wrote:Korea International Circuit-WHY IN BATHPLUGGING HWNSNSBM'S BATHPLUGGING NAME ARE WE RACING HERE?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaebol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Company

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 15 Oct 2012, 21:39

It's the Korean GP for me. Kobayashi came home in second.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 19 Oct 2012, 23:32

Hi everyone,

Official decision time!

I just didn't have the heart to give it to Kamui. Besides, now that the season has regularised and normalised and seems so far removed from the randomness of the first part of the year (I mean, after 7 different winners in 7 races you'd have sworn that the 2003 tally of 8 winners over the season would be beaten - now that looks most unlikely), what really caught my eye from the Korean GP was the series of downright bizarre things which was so far removed from the slick professional show which F1 is meant to be these days.

I mean, the marshals being unable to move Rosberg's car for 8 laps despite it being in a siding designed for easy removal - and yellow flags being out all that time, in the main DRS zone, depriving the race of key overtaking opportunities before the field spread out? Then there was the astroturf - far less serious than the drain cover problem at Shanghai in 2005, but more hilarious than Pedro Diniz dragging around some real grass with him in Canada in 1998, because at least the astroturf is man-made and man-laid and you'd think they'd bed it down properly. Then there was Psy's hopeless chequered flag waving ... putting him up there with Pele in the "one must never ask a celebrity to do this important job" stakes. And if that was not enough, there was Adrian Newey's ridiculous goggles on the podium. And just to top it off, the badgering podium girl who kept asking for Vettel's hat and only left reluctantly when Seb had said "no" for about the fourth time!

It was as if the silliness and randomness of Gangnam Style had invaded the entire event. So ROTR for the Korean GP goes to "F1 Gangnam Style" ... and before anyone complains, yes I know Yeongam is nowhere near Gangnam in Seoul, but hey I'm allowed a little poetic licence, aren't I?

And for the record-keepers, this should be a 0.2 awarded to each of:

* Korean GP marshals
* astroturf
* Psy
* Adrian Newey's goggles, and
* the badgering Korean podium girl

Cheers,
Enoch