F1WRCR 1952 season - driver ratings up!

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:07

Are these (or at least some) of these drivers free? If Tazio Nuvolari is not contracted, I'd like to switch Brown with him!

PS: Now I saw he can be removed. Sorry...

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:10

And Shadaza, you only get 24 entries, so since Ruttman is driving the whole season and Barth is doing 8 rounds, Schell is restricted to six races.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:11

pycku wrote:Are these (or at least some) of these drivers free? If Tazio Nuvolari is not contracted, I'd like to switch Brown with him!

For contracted drivers, just look at the first post. Nuvolari is retired, since he's reached the legal age limit to take part (he's 60 at that point and having large health problems) and retired at the end of 1950.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:12

tommykl wrote:And Shadaza, you only get 24 entries, so since Ruttman is driving the whole season and Barth is doing 8 rounds, Schell is restricted to six races.

I am ok with this.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:16

tommykl wrote:
pycku wrote:Are these (or at least some) of these drivers free? If Tazio Nuvolari is not contracted, I'd like to switch Brown with him!

For contracted drivers, just look at the first post. Nuvolari is retired, since he's reached the legal age limit to take part (he's 60 at that point and having large health problems) and retired at the end of 1950.

I am sorry, but there is no full list of contracted drivers there. I suppose there was such a list in 1951 thread. I don't want to steal drivers and maybe most of these will resign with their previous team, am I right?

Of course, If i've mistaken, I'd like to recruit Farina

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:16

Well, in a daring/disappointing decision Scuderia Maremmana will only take part in five races this season because of financial difficulties.

Monaco Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

English Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

German Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

Italian Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

Australian Grand Prix:
Warwick Pratley
John McMillan
Eric Brandon

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:18

pycku wrote:
tommykl wrote:
pycku wrote:Are these (or at least some) of these drivers free? If Tazio Nuvolari is not contracted, I'd like to switch Brown with him!

For contracted drivers, just look at the first post. Nuvolari is retired, since he's reached the legal age limit to take part (he's 60 at that point and having large health problems) and retired at the end of 1950.

I am sorry, but there is no full list of contracted drivers there. I suppose there was such a list in 1951 thread. I don't want to steal drivers and maybe most of these will resign with their previous team, am I right?

Of course, If i've mistaken, I'd like to recruit Farina

Farina isn't free, but this guy is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Villoresi
He drove for Ferrari America and was a consistent performer and points threat.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:21

Okay, I'll take villoresi. Thank you!

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:43

Klon wrote:Well, in a daring/disappointing decision Scuderia Maremmana will only take part in five races this season because of financial difficulties.

Monaco Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

English Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

German Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

Italian Grand Prix:
Clemente Biondetti
Manfred von Brauchitsch
Eric Brandon

Australian Grand Prix:
Warwick Pratley
John McMillan
Eric Brandon

pycku wrote:Okay, I'll take villoresi. Thank you!

Good plan. Brown hasn't done a race yet, so he'd have 0 points, so coupled to the new entry and new chassis, you'd have been screwed :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:45

tommykl wrote:I really have to know. Is it the same entry with a different name? Because your performance will be different...

Since I doubt wmetcalf would return, I think so.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Nov 2012, 17:55

FMecha wrote:
tommykl wrote:I really have to know. Is it the same entry with a different name? Because your performance will be different...

Since I doubt wmetcalf would return, I think so.

OK

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 03 Nov 2012, 18:51

Regarding Schell, is Ferrari America happy with 5/5 split?

For Ferrari America: Monaco, Donington, Silverstone, Sebring, Leyburn
For Motorsport Bleu: Spa, Rouen, Nürburgring, Zandvoort, Monza

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Nov 2012, 18:53

A minor correction: John McMiller is actually from New Zealand.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Nov 2012, 18:54

The mistake has been fixed

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 03 Nov 2012, 18:59

Bleu wrote:Regarding Schell, is Ferrari America happy with 5/5 split?

For Ferrari America: Monaco, Donington, Silverstone, Sebring, Leyburn
For Motorsport Bleu: Spa, Rouen, Nürburgring, Zandvoort, Monza

Ferrari America is happy enough to accept that split.
This means 5 of our 6, 2nd Ferrari America slots have been taken and allows 1 driver spot for our senior Ferrari team to use a driver of their choice for.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 03 Nov 2012, 22:38

I see Aldo Gordini is in 58th place. Therefore, we would like to know his availability to race for ART-Gordini in both Monaco and France.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 04 Nov 2012, 00:33

Ok, i'll repeat Garage Francorchamps entry list:
Bugatti Grand Prix, Using their new Bugatti chassis (based on the old Alfa)
Maurice Trintignant: All races
André Pilette: All races except France and Monaco
Eugène Chaboud: France, Monaco
Ecurie Nationale Belge, Using the free new Maserati.
André Pilette: France, Monaco
Charles Van Acker: USA
Jan Flinterman: Holland
Charles de Tornaco: Italy
Georges Berger: Germany
Roger Laurent: UK
Paul Frère: Belgium (on loan to Maserati)
Jacques Swaters: Belgium, Donington
ENB will not be racing in Australia, instead a second car wil be entered in Belgium if that's okay?

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 04 Nov 2012, 01:22

Redman Racing Team, after initially deciding to not return for 1952, will return after all. We'd like to have Rudi Fischer for all races in the new Maserati, if possible, plus Stan Jones for Australia in the old car.

Grovey · Post by **Grovey** » 04 Nov 2012, 01:30

simonracer wrote:Redman Racing Team, after initially deciding to not return for 1952, will return after all. We'd like to have Rudi Fischer for all races in the new Maserati, if possible, plus Stan Jones for Australia in the old car.

I asked if I was allowed to use him first so I don't think you will be allowed to have him. I am trying to think of a team idea because This already took my original idea.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 04 Nov 2012, 03:15

Grovey wrote:
simonracer wrote:Redman Racing Team, after initially deciding to not return for 1952, will return after all. We'd like to have Rudi Fischer for all races in the new Maserati, if possible, plus Stan Jones for Australia in the old car.

I asked if I was allowed to use him first so I don't think you will be allowed to have him. I am trying to think of a team idea because This already took my original idea.

What was your original idea? None of my team-names are really new, they've been going for two seasons. I can offer you the BRM name, though. (not the entry, because i sold that one to Bentley, but i think you can get a new entry, or buy over the old one from Bentley, as they seem to forgot they even bought BRM)

Grovey · Post by **Grovey** » 04 Nov 2012, 03:50

I did plan to run the Bugatti works team but don't worry about it as I have a backup plan that I will announce later.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 04 Nov 2012, 06:30

This wrote:
Grovey wrote:
simonracer wrote:Redman Racing Team, after initially deciding to not return for 1952, will return after all. We'd like to have Rudi Fischer for all races in the new Maserati, if possible, plus Stan Jones for Australia in the old car.

I asked if I was allowed to use him first so I don't think you will be allowed to have him. I am trying to think of a team idea because This already took my original idea.

What was your original idea? None of my team-names are really new, they've been going for two seasons. I can offer you the BRM name, though. (not the entry, because i sold that one to Bentley, but i think you can get a new entry, or buy over the old one from Bentley, as they seem to forgot they even bought BRM)

Sorry, I didn't see your post. Is Nello Pagani available?

Post by **tommykl** » 04 Nov 2012, 06:53

AdrianSutil wrote:I see Aldo Gordini is in 58th place. Therefore, we would like to know his availability to race for ART-Gordini in both Monaco and France.

58th isn't very good at all, but he's available, yes.

This wrote:Ok, i'll repeat Garage Francorchamps entry list:
Bugatti Grand Prix, Using their new Bugatti chassis (based on the old Alfa)
Maurice Trintignant: All races
André Pilette: All races except France and Monaco
Eugène Chaboud: France, Monaco
Ecurie Nationale Belge, Using the free new Maserati.
André Pilette: France, Monaco
Charles Van Acker: USA
Jan Flinterman: Holland
Charles de Tornaco: Italy
Georges Berger: Germany
Roger Laurent: UK
Paul Frère: Belgium (on loan to Maserati)
Jacques Swaters: Belgium, Donington
ENB will not be racing in Australia, instead a second car wil be entered in Belgium if that's okay?

Since it's four entries in Belgium, it's OK. The limit for one race is four

For Bugatti, I'll have to use the Bugatti performance numbers. Conveniently, it's just half those of the Alfa Romeo. I also need to know if the engine is Bugatti as well.

simonracer wrote:
This wrote:
Grovey wrote:I asked if I was allowed to use him first so I don't think you will be allowed to have him. I am trying to think of a team idea because This already took my original idea.

What was your original idea? None of my team-names are really new, they've been going for two seasons. I can offer you the BRM name, though. (not the entry, because i sold that one to Bentley, but i think you can get a new entry, or buy over the old one from Bentley, as they seem to forgot they even bought BRM)

Sorry, I didn't see your post. Is Nello Pagani available?

Yes he is. I'll put him in the first car for all races, then?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 04 Nov 2012, 11:01

This wrote:
Grovey wrote:
simonracer wrote:Redman Racing Team, after initially deciding to not return for 1952, will return after all. We'd like to have Rudi Fischer for all races in the new Maserati, if possible, plus Stan Jones for Australia in the old car.

I asked if I was allowed to use him first so I don't think you will be allowed to have him. I am trying to think of a team idea because This already took my original idea.

What was your original idea? None of my team-names are really new, they've been going for two seasons. I can offer you the BRM name, though. (not the entry, because i sold that one to Bentley, but i think you can get a new entry, or buy over the old one from Bentley, as they seem to forgot they even bought BRM)

Bentley will reflect this newly remembered knowledge by giving the team the new official name of British Bentley Racing Motors
We will still be running Bentley chassis (Speed 2) and Engine.

Hope that makes sense :lol:

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 04 Nov 2012, 12:35

Scuderia Ambrosiana will enter two cars at each round with a third for the Italian Grand Prix. Giovanni Bracco and Porfirio Rubirosa will be the full time drivers.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:59

OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Post by **tommykl** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:02

pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Slight problem, the Fighting Mongooses have already hired Behra for Belgium, though he's free for Germany and Italy...

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:37

tommykl wrote:
pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Slight problem, the Fighting Mongooses have already hired Behra for Belgium, though he's free for Germany and Italy...

Ok, then Felice Bonetto gets the OSCA for Spa.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:10

Bugatti will indeed built their own engines.

And i forgot that if i enter the Belgian GP with a 4th driver, i'll also need a 4th car, i'm sure Maserati can arrange me a second-hand car. (or run Frère in the works team)

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:32

This wrote:Bugatti will indeed built their own engines.

And i forgot that if i enter the Belgian GP with a 4th driver, i'll also need a 4th car, i'm sure Maserati can arrange me a second-hand car. (or run Frère in the works team)

Maserati will be willing to give give that car, a 4CLT model could be?

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 05 Nov 2012, 07:24

tommykl wrote:Sorry, I didn't see your post. Is Nello Pagani available?

Yes he is. I'll put him in the first car for all races, then?[/quote]
Yes, do that. Thanks very much.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Nov 2012, 09:23

Alfa Romeo SpA entrants for the 1952 Formula 1 Championship:

- Giuseppe Farina
- Juan Manuel Fangio
- Stirling Moss

They are to be entered at every GP and thus allocating every entry from the 30 available.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Nov 2012, 09:27

Phoenix wrote:Phoenix Racing Organisation will keep Ferrari engines and Alberto Ascari, being partnered by Stirling Moss. We are going to enter races on a race-by-race basis. I thus submit here my entry for the first GP of the season.

Hey you! Stirling Moss has contract with Alfa Romeo! It follows the from last season's contract! :shock:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Nov 2012, 14:46

pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Can I set up a team to run de Filippis at some races that aren't listed above? And can I also run Helle Nice as well at one or two races please?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 05 Nov 2012, 15:09

dr-baker wrote:
pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Can I set up a team to run de Filippis at some races that aren't listed above? And can I also run Helle Nice as well at one or two races please?

You can run de Filippis for your team.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Nov 2012, 15:38

pi314159 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Can I set up a team to run de Filippis at some races that aren't listed above? And can I also run Helle Nice as well at one or two races please?

You can run de Filippis for your team.

Great, thanks.

I'll announce details later in the week/at the weekend.

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Nov 2012, 16:17

pi314159 wrote:
tommykl wrote:
pi314159 wrote:OSCA Automobili run a car for Behra at Spa,Nürburgring and Monza.

de Filippis enters Monza, Sebring and Spa

Slight problem, the Fighting Mongooses have already hired Behra for Belgium, though he's free for Germany and Italy...

Ok, then Felice Bonetto gets the OSCA for Spa.

OK

DanielPT wrote:Alfa Romeo SpA entrants for the 1952 Formula 1 Championship:

- Giuseppe Farina
- Juan Manuel Fangio
- Stirling Moss

They are to be entered at every GP and thus allocating every entry from the 30 available.

Well, that's one more thing that changes from reality then

dr-baker wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Can I set up a team to run de Filippis at some races that aren't listed above? And can I also run Helle Nice as well at one or two races please?

You can run de Filippis for your team.

Great, thanks.

I'll announce details later in the week/at the weekend.

Nice's farewell race didn't go as planned, so I'd let her take a well-earned retirement.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 05 Nov 2012, 16:57

Is Mike Hawthorn confirmed for Bentley-BRM, as there is still a question mark by his naemin the entry lists. As Phoenix didn't enter him I presume things are pip and dandy?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Nov 2012, 17:33

dr-baker wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Can I set up a team to run de Filippis at some races that aren't listed above? And can I also run Helle Nice as well at one or two races please?

You can run de Filippis for your team.

Great, thanks.

I'll announce details later in the week/at the weekend.

tommykl wrote:Nice's farewell race didn't go as planned, so I'd let her take a well-earned retirement.

OK. When can Pat Moss be expected to debut at the earliest?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 05 Nov 2012, 17:37

dr-baker wrote:
tommykl wrote:Nice's farewell race didn't go as planned, so I'd let her take a well-earned retirement.

OK. When can Pat Moss be expected to debut at the earliest?

She didn't start racing until 1953, but there were 5 female Le Mans drivers between 1949 and 1951: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fe ... ns_drivers