Best Team Disqualified Alternative Championship

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 21 Nov 2012, 04:47

This is an alternative championship in which the highest-scoring team is disqualified on a race-by-race basis. The championship will start with 1976.

Points after Brazilian GP:
1. Patrick Depailler (9)
2. Tom Pryce (6)
3. Hans-Joachim Stuck (4)
4. Jody Scheckter (3)
5. Jochen Mass (2)
6. Jacky Ickx (1)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 21 Nov 2012, 16:04

Standings after France
1. Niki Lauda (36, 1st)
2. Patrick Depailler (27, 1st)
3. Jacques Laffite (21, 1st)
4. Jody Scheckter (17, 2nd)
5. Jochen Mass (13, 3rd)
6. John Watson (12, 2nd)
7. Hans-Joachim Stuck (11, 2nd)
8. Tom Pryce (10, 2nd)
9. Carlos Pace (7, 3rd)
10. Gunnar Nilsson (6, 2nd)
11. Emerson Fittipaldi (6, 4th)
11. Mario Andretti (6, 4th)
13. Carlos Reutemann (4, 3rd)
13. Alan Jones (4, 3rd)
13. James Hunt (4, 3rd)
16. Chris Amon (4, 4th)
17. Clay Regazzoni (3, 4th)
18. Jean-Pierre Jarier (3, 5th)
19. Ronnie Peterson (2, 5th)
20. Jacky Ickx (2, 6th)
21. Vittorio Brambilla (1, 6th)
21. Larry Perkins (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 26 Nov 2012, 19:05

1976:
1. Jody Scheckter (54, 1st)
2. Patrick Depailler (48, 1st)
3. Niki Lauda (47, 1st)
4. Jacques Laffite (38, 1st)
5. Clay Regazzoni (29, 1st)
6. John Watson (22, 2nd)
7. Mario Andretti (21, 2nd)
8. Jochen Mass (20, 2nd)
9. Tom Pryce (19, 2nd)
10. Gunnar Nilsson (15, 2nd)
10. Hans-Joachim Stuck (15, 2nd)
12. James Hunt (14, 2nd)
13. Carlos Pace (13, 3rd)
14. Alan Jones (12, 3rd)
15. Emerson Fittipaldi (8, 4th)
16. Carlos Reutemann (4, 3rd)
17. Chris Amon (4, 4th)
18. Ronnie Peterson (4, 5th)
19. Jean-Pierre Jarier (3, 5th)
19. Vittorio Brambilla (3, 5th)
21. Rolf Stommelen (2, 5th)
22. Jacky Ickx (2, 6th)
22. Harald Ertl (2, 6th)
24. Larry Perkins (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Dec 2012, 04:27

1977:
1. Niki Lauda (53, 1st)
2. Jody Scheckter (51, 1st)
3. Carlos Reutemann (39, 1st)
4. Jochen Mass (34, 1st)
5. Patrick Depailler (29, 1st)
6. Hans-Joachim Stuck (24, 2nd)
7. Alan Jones (22, 2nd)
8. James Hunt (21, 1st)
8. Jacques Laffite (21, 1st)
10. Mario Andretti (18, 1st)
11. Emerson Fittipaldi (17, 2nd)
12. John Watson (14, 1st)
13. Vittorio Brambilla (14, 3rd)
14. Ronnie Peterson (12, 2nd)
15. Clay Regazzoni (11, 4th)
16. Gunnar Nilsson (10, 2nd)
17. Carlos Pace (9, 1st)
18. Patrick Tambay (9, 4th)
19. Renzo Zorzi (3, 4th)
20. Ingo Hoffmann (2, 5th)
20. Jean-Pierre Jarier (2, 5th)
20. Riccardo Patrese (2, 5th)
20. Vern Schuppan (2, 5th)
24. Hans Binder (1, 6th)
24. Rupert Keegan (1, 6th)
24. Patrick Nève (1, 6th)
24. Danny Ongais (1, 6th)
24. Alex Ribeiro (1, 6th)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Dec 2012, 12:28

Shouldn't Ferrari be out of 1977?

Post by **tommykl** » 10 Dec 2012, 12:50

James1978 wrote:Shouldn't Ferrari be out of 1977?

He took the Ferraris out whenever they scored the most points of the race

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Dec 2012, 16:47

1978
1. Patrick Depailler (40, 1st)
2. Jody Scheckter (39, 1st)
3. Jacques Laffite (38, 1st)
4. Niki Lauda (33, 1st)
5. Carlos Reutemann (31, 1st)
6. John Watson (29, 2nd)
7. Emerson Fittipaldi (27, 1st)
8. Riccardo Patrese (21, 1st)
9. Alan Jones (19, 1st)
10. Gilles Villeneuve (18, 2nd)
11. Patrick Tambay (18, 3rd)
12. James Hunt (17, 1st)
13. Mario Andretti (16, 1st)
14. Ronnie Peterson (13, 2nd)
15. Didier Pironi (12, 4th)
16. Clay Regazzoni (6, 4th)
17. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (4, 3rd)
17. Hans-Joachim Stuck (4, 3rd)
19. Vittorio Brambilla (4, 5th)
20. Derek Daly (3, 4th)
21. Bruno Giacomelli (3, 5th)
21. Brett Lunger (3, 5th)
23. Jean-Pierre Jarier (1, 6th)
23. Jochen Mass (1, 6th)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Dec 2012, 19:56

Oops, me bad.

This should make more sense for me from 1981 then as both started to count towards the constructors - am I right in assuming the team that scores the most points between the two cars will be the one DQ'd rather than the one which wins the race (i.e. Brazil 2012 will have Ferrari eliminated with 33 points for 2nd and 3rd rather than McLaren with just 25 for Button winning the race)?

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Dec 2012, 21:21

James1978 wrote:Oops, me bad.

This should make more sense for me from 1981 then as both started to count towards the constructors - am I right in assuming the team that scores the most points between the two cars will be the one DQ'd rather than the one which wins the race (i.e. Brazil 2012 will have Ferrari eliminated with 33 points for 2nd and 3rd rather than McLaren with just 25 for Button winning the race)?

All of a team's cars in a race counting instead of just the best one started in 1976, which is why I started there. And yes, it's the highest-scoring team overall, not necessarily the winning team. So for 2012 Brazil, McLaren would have 25, Ferrari 0, Red Bull 30, Force India 15, etc..

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Dec 2012, 21:25

Cool, that should make things interesting, really looking forward to seeing some of the year to date and possibly make some predictions!

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Dec 2012, 21:50

1979
1. Jody Scheckter (39, 1st)
2. Carlos Reutemann (34, 1st)
2. Gilles Villeneuve (34, 1st)
4. Jacques Laffite (31, 1st)
5. Jean-Pierre Jarier (29, 1st)
6. Didier Pironi (27, 2nd)
7. John Watson (24, 2nd)
8. René Arnoux (21, 1st)
8. Clay Regazzoni (21, 1st)
10. Mario Andretti (20, 2nd)
11. Patrick Depailler (16, 1st)
12. Alan Jones (15, 1st)
13. Jochen Mass (11, 4th)
14. Niki Lauda (9, 2nd)
15. Elio de Angelis (8, 3rd)
16. Nelson Piquet (7, 3rd)
17. Emerson Fittipaldi (7, 4th)
18. Jacky Ickx (5, 4th)
18. Hans-Joachim Stuck (5, 4th)
20. Riccardo Patrese (3, 4th)
21. Geoff Lees (2, 5th)
21. Ricardo Zunino (2, 5th)
23. Derek Daly (1, 6th)
23. James Hunt (1, 6th)
23. Hector Rebaque (1, 6th)
23. Patrick Tambay (1, 6th)

Technically, the "only best x races count" thing probably should've come into effect for a few people (I wasn't keeping track), but nobody likes that rule anyway.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Dec 2012, 22:57

One more question (sorry)!!

If 2 or more teams tie for highest number of points scored (say in 1991 - 02 one team wins the race and the other car retires while another team scores 2nd and 3rd and get 10 points each), are both eliminated or just the one with the highest placing?

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Dec 2012, 23:23

James1978 wrote:One more question (sorry)!!

If 2 or more teams tie for highest number of points scored (say in 1991 - 02 one team wins the race and the other car retires while another team scores 2nd and 3rd and get 10 points each), are both eliminated or just the one with the highest placing?

The tie is broken by count-back, so just the one with the highest placing.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 11 Dec 2012, 12:20

Excellent, thanks!

I want to try and do some predictions.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 11 Dec 2012, 12:36

Predictions for champions (in white to hide if need be):

1980 Piquet
1981 Laffite
1982 Rosberg (rarely were Williams the best team)
1983 Piquet
1984 De Angelis (McLaren out too much)
1985 Prost
1986 Prost
1987 Senna
1988 Boutsen (losing Monaco and Monza should scupper Berger)
1989 Nannini (I think Williams lose a few crucial races like Canada, Japan and Australia)
1990 Piquet
1991 Prost (McLaren and Williams out a lot, Piquet loses Canada)
1992 Schumacher
1993 Schumacher
1994 I'll take a punt at Hill. It's either him or Berger. But all those 2nds to Schumi will do Hill proud.

1995 Alesi (I think Williams and Benetton are out about equally)
1996 Alesi (the few races Schumacher wins probably scupper him)
1997 If Michael Schumacher isn't thrown from the standings then him. If he is then Alesi.
1998 Jacques Villeneuve - McLaren and Ferrari should have about half the races each, Jordan will be out of Belgium
1999 Irvine
2000 Ralf Schumacher (McLaren/Ferrari had a duopoly on the wins)
2001 Coulthard
2002 Montoya
2003 Raikkonen
2004 Button
2005 Ralf Schumacher (if any of the other alternative championships are to go by!)
2006 Raikkonen
2007 Could this be Heidfeld's with McLaren and Ferrari probably being eliminated about equally?
2008 Kubica for the same reason
2009 Nico Rosberg (consistently picking up points while the other teams lose their best races)
2010 Alonso
2011 Alonso
2012 Raikkonen

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 11 Dec 2012, 15:44

1980
1. Nelson Piquet (53, 1st)
2. Didier Pironi (45, 1st)
3. Jacques Laffite (41, 1st)
4. René Arnoux (29, 1st)
5. Elio de Angelis (24, 1st)
6. Gilles Villeneuve (16, 3rd)
7. Jean-Pierre Jarier (15, 3rd)
8. Alain Prost (14, 4th)
9. John Watson (13, 2nd)
10. Keke Rosberg (12, 2nd)
11. Riccardo Patrese (11, 1st)
12. Derek Daly (10, 2nd)
13. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (9, 1st)
14. Emerson Fittipaldi (9, 2nd)
15. Jochen Mass (9, 3rd)
16. Carlos Reutemann (8, 3rd)
17. Bruno Giacomelli (7, 3rd)
18. Alan Jones (6, 2nd)
19. Mario Andretti (6, 4th)
20. Hector Rebaque (5, 4th)
20. Jody Scheckter (5, 4th)
22. Marc Surer (2, 6th)
23. Ricardo Zunino (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 12 Dec 2012, 04:05

1981
1. Jacques Laffite (41, 1st)
2. Nelson Piquet (39, 1st)
3. Alain Prost (33, 1st)
4. John Watson (32, 1st)
5. Carlos Reutemann (31, 1st)
6. Elio de Angelis (29, 2nd)
7. Alan Jones (24, 1st)
8. Riccardo Patrese (19, 1st)
9. Eddie Cheever (17, 3rd)
10. Didier Pironi (16, 3rd)
11. René Arnoux (14, 1st)
12. Nigel Mansell (14, 2nd)
13. Gilles Villeneuve (12, 2nd)
14. Bruno Giacomelli (11, 2nd)
15. Mario Andretti (8, 2nd)
15. Marc Surer (8, 2nd)
17. Hector Rebaque (7, 3rd)
18. Andrea de Cesaris (5, 4th)
19. Patrick Tambay (4, 4th)
20. Jean-Pierre Jarier (3, 5th)
21. Slim Borgudd (2, 5th)
21. Eliseo Salazar (2, 5th)
21. Chico Serra (2, 5th)
24. Derek Daly (1, 6th)
24. Siegfried Stohr (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 13 Dec 2012, 01:55

1982
1. Keke Rosberg (55, 1st)
2. John Watson (33, 1st)
3. Michele Alboreto (32, 1st)
4. Niki Lauda (29, 1st)
5. Didier Pironi (26, 1st)
6. Eddie Cheever (24, 1st)
7. Elio de Angelis (23, 2nd)
8. René Arnoux (18, 1st)
8. Riccardo Patrese (18, 1st)
10. Alain Prost (17, 1st)
11. Derek Daly (17, 3rd)
12. Nelson Piquet (16, 1st)
13. Nigel Mansell (14, 2nd)
14. Patrick Tambay (10, 2nd)
15. Carlos Reutemann (9, 1st)
16. Andrea de Cesaris (8, 2nd)
16. Jacques Laffite (8, 2nd)
18. Marc Surer (7, 4th)
19. Jean-Pierre Jarier (6, 2nd)
20. Bruno Giacomelli (5, 4th)
21. Eliseo Salazar (4, 3rd)
22. Mauro Baldi (4, 5th)
23. Manfred Winkelhock (3, 4th)
24. Chico Serra (3, 5th)
25. Brian Henton (2, 6th)
25. Jochen Mass (2, 6th)
27. Slim Borgudd (1, 6th)

Brabham-BMW and Brabham-Ford were judged as separate teams.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 13 Dec 2012, 23:13

1983
1. Nelson Piquet (43, 1st)
2. Keke Rosberg (34, 1st)
3. Alain Prost (33, 1st)
4. René Arnoux (32, 1st)
4. Patrick Tambay (32, 1st)
6. John Watson (25, 1st)
7. Jacques Laffite (23, 2nd)
8. Andrea de Cesaris (22, 1st)
9. Derek Warwick (19, 2nd)
10. Eddie Cheever (18, 1st)
11. Nigel Mansell (16, 2nd)
12. Marc Surer (12, 3rd)
13. Niki Lauda (11, 2nd)
14. Riccardo Patrese (7, 2nd)
15. Mauro Baldi (7, 3rd)
16. Danny Sullivan (6, 4th)
17. Michele Alboreto (5, 4th)
18. Bruno Giacomelli (4, 5th)
19. Johnny Cecotto (3, 4th)
19. Elio de Angelis (3, 4th)
21. Thierry Boutsen (3, 5th)
22. Raul Boesel (2, 5th)
22. Jean-Pierre Jarier (2, 5th)
22. Stefan Johansson (2, 5th)
25. Chico Serra (2, 6th)

No one won the Brazilian Grand Prix.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 14 Dec 2012, 21:18

The idea of a race without a winner makes my head explode.

I've edited my predictions post for 1991, 93 and 2005. I was right with 1981, 82 and 83 though. ;-)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 14 Dec 2012, 22:02

1984
1. Elio de Angelis (57.5, 1st)
2. Derek Warwick (40, 1st)
3. René Arnoux (39, 1st)
4. Michele Alboreto (34, 1st)
5. Nelson Piquet (28, 1st)
6. Ayrton Senna (27.5, 1st)
7. Nigel Mansell (27, 1st)
8. Patrick Tambay (23, 1st)
9. Keke Rosberg (20, 1st)
10. Riccardo Patrese (16, 2nd)
11. Andrea de Cesaris (10, 3rd)
12. Teo Fabi (8, 3rd)
13. Thierry Boutsen (8, 4th)
14. Alain Prost (6, 2nd)
15. Eddie Cheever (5, 3rd)
15. Jacques Laffite (5, 3rd)
17. Piercarlo Ghinzani (4.5, 3rd)
18. Stefan Johansson (4, 3rd)
19. Marc Surer (4, 5th)
20. François Hesnault (3, 5th)
21. Corrado Fabi (2, 5th)
22. Mauro Baldi (2, 6th)
22. Manfred Winkelhock (2, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 16 Dec 2012, 18:57

1985
1. Michele Alboreto (48, 1st)
2. Alain Prost (45, 1st)
3. Keke Rosberg (37, 1st)
4. Elio de Angelis (36, 2nd)
5. Ayrton Senna (35, 1st)
6. Stefan Johansson (26, 2nd)
7. Nigel Mansell (22, 1st)
8. Thierry Boutsen (21, 1st)
8. Nelson Piquet (21, 1st)
10. Patrick Tambay (20, 2nd)
11. Jacques Laffite (17, 2nd)
12. Derek Warwick (11, 4th)
13. Stefan Bellof (10, 2nd)
14. Gerhard Berger (9, 3rd)
14. Marc Surer (9, 3rd)
16. Niki Lauda (7, 3rd)
17. Ivan Capelli (6, 2nd)
18. Martin Brundle (5, 5th)
19. René Arnoux (4, 3rd)
19. Andrea de Cesaris (4, 3rd)
21. Huub Rothengatter (2, 5th)
21. John Watson (2, 5th)
23. Pierluigi Martini (1, 6th)
23. Philippe Streiff (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Dec 2012, 03:29

1986
1. Alain Prost (71, 1st)
2. Ayrton Senna (61, 1st)
3. Stefan Johansson (34, 1st)
4. René Arnoux (30, 2nd)
5. Jacques Laffite (26, 1st)
6. Keke Rosberg (26, 2nd)
7. Nelson Piquet (24, 1st)
8. Nigel Mansell (21, 1st)
9. Gerhard Berger (16, 2nd)
10. Martin Brundle (15, 3rd)
11. Michele Alboreto (14, 3rd)
12. Alan Jones (9, 2nd)
13. Johnny Dumfries (8, 3rd)
14. Philippe Streiff (8, 4th)
15. Patrick Tambay (7, 3rd)
16. Riccardo Patrese (7, 4th)
17. Thierry Boutsen (7, 5th)
18. Teo Fabi (5, 4th)
19. Christian Danner (4, 4th)
20. Derek Warwick (3, 5th)
21. Philippe Alliot (2, 5th)
22. Jonathan Palmer (1, 6th)
22. Huub Rothengatter (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Dec 2012, 20:30

1987
1. Ayrton Senna (67, 1st)
2. Alain Prost (36, 1st)
3. Thierry Boutsen (33, 1st)
3. Nelson Piquet (33, 1st)
5. Stefan Johansson (32, 1st)
6. Gerhard Berger (29, 1st)
7. Teo Fabi (26, 1st)
8. Jonathan Palmer (19, 2nd)
9. Eddie Cheever (18, 2nd)
9. Satoru Nakajima (18, 2nd)
11. Michele Alboreto (13, 2nd)
12. Riccardo Patrese (12, 1st)
13. Andrea de Cesaris (10, 1st)
14. Philippe Streiff (10, 3rd)
15. Philippe Alliot (9, 4th)
16. Derek Warwick (6, 3rd)
17. Nigel Mansell (6, 4th)
18. Martin Brundle (4, 4th)
19. Piercarlo Ghinzani (4, 5th)
20. René Arnoux (3, 4th)
20. Roberto Moreno (3, 4th)
22. Christian Danner (3, 5th)
23. Ivan Capelli (2, 5th)

Jim Clark Trophy:
1. Pascal Fabre (60, 1st)
2. Ivan Capelli (42, 1st)
3. Philippe Alliot (27, 1st)
4. Philippe Streiff (24, 1st)
5. Yannick Dalmas (18, 1st)
6. Jonathan Palmer (15, 1st)
7. Roberto Moreno (6, 2nd)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 19 Dec 2012, 18:20

1988
1. Thierry Boutsen (61, 1st)
2. Gerhard Berger (52, 1st)
3. Nelson Piquet (45, 1st)
4. Derek Warwick (34, 2nd)
5. Ivan Capelli (33, 1st)
6. Michele Alboreto (27, 1st)
7. Alessandro Nannini (24, 2nd)
8. Riccardo Patrese (21, 2nd)
9. Eddie Cheever (18, 1st)
9. Nigel Mansell (18, 1st)
11. Maurício Gugelmin (13, 3rd)
12. Jonathan Palmer (11, 3rd)
13. Alain Prost (9, 1st)
14. Satoru Nakajima (9, 5th)
15. Andrea de Cesaris (7, 2nd)
16. Pierluigi Martini (5, 4th)
17. Alex Caffi (4, 5th)
17. Yannick Dalmas (4, 5th)
19. Martin Brundle (2, 5th)
20. Luis Pérez-Sala (1, 6th)
20. Philippe Streiff (1, 6th)
20. Gabriele Tarquini (1, 6th)

The "best x races" thing was, as always, completely ignored.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 20 Dec 2012, 16:19

1989
1. Alessandro Nannini (48, 1st)
2. Riccardo Patrese (38, 1st)
3. Nigel Mansell (36, 1st)
4. Thierry Boutsen (26, 2nd)
5. Nelson Piquet (23, 2nd)
6. Alain Prost (22, 1st)
7. Gerhard Berger (18, 1st)
8. Derek Warwick (16, 3rd)
9. Eddie Cheever (15, 2nd)
10. Andrea de Cesaris (13, 1st)
11. Jean Alesi (13, 2nd)
12. Alex Caffi (12, 2nd)
12. Maurício Gugelmin (12, 2nd)
14. Ayrton Senna (11, 1st)
15. Stefano Modena (10, 1st)
16. Michele Alboreto (10, 2nd)
16. Stefan Johansson (10, 2nd)
18. Martin Brundle (10, 3rd)
19. Pierluigi Martini (10, 4th)
20. Satoru Nakajima (7, 2nd)
21. Johnny Herbert (7, 3rd)
22. Jonathan Palmer (6, 4th)
23. Christian Danner (5, 3rd)
24. Gabriele Tarquini (5, 4th)
25. René Arnoux (4, 3rd)
25. Emanuele Pirro (4, 3rd)
27. Olivier Grouillard (4, 5th)
28. Philippe Alliot (3, 4th)
29. Luis Pérez-Sala (2, 5th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 23 Dec 2012, 21:11

1990
1. Nelson Piquet (54, 1st)
2. Thierry Boutsen (46, 1st)
3. Gerhard Berger (42, 1st)
4. Alessandro Nannini (40, 1st)
5. Ayrton Senna (36, 1st)
6. Alain Prost (32, 1st)
7. Jean Alesi (27, 1st)
8. Riccardo Patrese (25, 2nd)
9. Aguri Suzuki (15, 1st)
10. Ivan Capelli (13, 1st)
11. Nigel Mansell (12, 2nd)
12. Éric Bernard (10, 3rd)
13. Derek Warwick (9, 3rd)
14. Satoru Nakajima (9, 4th)
15. Alex Caffi (6, 3rd)
16. Maurício Gugelmin (5, 4th)
16. Stefano Modena (5, 4th)
18. Nicola Larini (4, 5th)
19. Martin Donnelly (3, 5th)
20. Gregor Foitek (2, 5th)
20. Roberto Moreno (2, 5th)
22. Pierluigi Martini (2, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 27 Dec 2012, 01:06

1991
1. Alain Prost (57, 1st)
2. Ayrton Senna (46, 1st)
3. Riccardo Patrese (41, 1st)
4. Jean Alesi (39, 1st)
5. Nelson Piquet (33, 1st)
6. Nigel Mansell (27, 1st)
7. Gerhard Berger (20, 1st)
8. Andrea de Cesaris (19.5, 2nd)
9. Stefano Modena (18, 1st)
10. Roberto Moreno (18, 2nd)
11. JJ Lehto (11, 1st)
12. Pierluigi Martini (11, 2nd)
13. Bertrand Gachot (8, 4th)
13. Michael Schumacher (8, 4th)
15. Maurício Gugelmin (5, 5th)
16. Gianni Morbidelli (4.5, 4th)
17. Martin Brundle (4, 3rd)
17. Mika Häkkinen (4, 3rd)
19. Mark Blundell (4, 4th)
20. Thierry Boutsen (4, 5th)
20. Emanuele Pirro (4, 5th)
22. Julian Bailey (3, 4th)
22. Éric Bernard (3, 4th)
22. Ivan Capelli (3, 4th)
22. Satoru Nakajima (3, 4th)
26. Johnny Herbert (2, 5th)
26. Aguri Suzuki (2, 5th)
28. Nicola Larini (1, 6th)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 27 Dec 2012, 20:56

1992
1. Michael Schumacher (79, 1st)
2. Martin Brundle (63, 1st)
3. Ayrton Senna (40, 1st)
4. Gerhard Berger (38, 1st)
5. Nigel Mansell (30, 1st)
6. Jean Alesi (28, 2nd)
7. Mika Häkkinen (25, 2nd)
8. Michele Alboreto (22, 3rd)
9. Riccardo Patrese (16, 2nd)
10. Andrea de Cesaris (16, 3rd)
11. Érik Comas (11, 3rd)
12. Johnny Herbert (8, 4th)
13. Ivan Capelli (7, 3rd)
14. Pierluigi Martini (6, 4th)
15. Karl Wendlinger (4, 3rd)
16. Thierry Boutsen (4, 4th)
17. JJ Lehto (4, 5th)
18. Stefano Modena (3, 5th)
18. Gianni Morbidelli (3, 5th)
20. Christian Fittipaldi (2, 5th)
20. Bertrand Gachot (2, 5th)
20. Maurício Gugelmin (2, 5th)
23. Aguri Suzuki (2, 6th)
24. Olivier Grouillard (1, 6th)

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 27 Dec 2012, 21:45

Very interesting. I'm looking forward for the coming seasons.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 28 Dec 2012, 02:42

1993
1. Michael Schumacher (72, 1st)
2. Damon Hill (48, 1st)
3. Alain Prost (40, 1st)
4. Ayrton Senna (39, 1st)
5. Riccardo Patrese (32, 1st)
6. Jean Alesi (25, 1st)
7. Martin Brundle (25, 2nd)
8. Gerhard Berger (21, 2nd)
9. Mark Blundell (20, 2nd)
10. Johnny Herbert (16, 3rd)
11. Michael Andretti (13, 2nd)
12. Karl Wendlinger (12, 3rd)
13. JJ Lehto (11, 3rd)
14. Christian Fittipaldi (9, 3rd)
15. Derek Warwick (7, 3rd)
16. Rubens Barrichello (6, 3rd)
17. Philippe Alliot (4, 4th)
18. Fabrizio Barbazza (4, 5th)
19. Eddie Irvine (3, 4th)
20. Érik Comas (3, 5th)
20. Alex Zanardi (3, 5th)
22. Luca Badoer (1, 6th)
22. Pierluigi Martini (1, 6th)
22. Aguri Suzuki (1, 6th)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Dec 2012, 07:32

Nice to see Prost winning with his truck of a Ferrari. :lol:

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 28 Dec 2012, 15:20

James1978 wrote:Nice to see Prost winning with his truck of a Ferrari.

My favourite race in the championship is undoubtedly 1990 France when Ivan Capelli won for Leyton House.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Dec 2012, 18:35

I'm liking more 4 wins for De Cesaris! ;-)

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 28 Dec 2012, 20:13

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
James1978 wrote:Nice to see Prost winning with his truck of a Ferrari.

My favourite race in the championship is undoubtedly 1990 France when Ivan Capelli won for Leyton House.

I agree. Capelli's win is absolutely great.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 28 Dec 2012, 21:10

Aguri Suzuki becoming the first Japanese race winner is also great.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 29 Dec 2012, 00:21

1994
1. Damon Hill (52, 1st)
2. Gerhard Berger (49, 1st)
3. Mika Häkkinen (46, 1st)
4. Jean Alesi (37, 1st)
5. Rubens Barrichello (30, 2nd)
6. Martin Brundle (28, 1st)
7. Michael Schumacher (20, 1st)
8. Olivier Panis (19, 1st)
9. Heinz-Harald Frentzen (16, 3rd)
10. Mark Blundell (14, 2nd)
11. Eddie Irvine (12, 3rd)
12. Jos Verstappen (11, 2nd)
13. Nicola Larini (10, 1st)
14. Christian Fittipaldi (10, 3rd)
15. Ukyo Katayama (10, 4th)
16. Éric Bernard (8, 2nd)
17. Pierluigi Martini (7, 4th)
18. Andrea de Cesaris (6, 3rd)
18. Karl Wendlinger (6, 3rd)
20. Gianni Morbidelli (6, 4th)
21. Érik Comas (6, 5th)
22. Michele Alboreto (4, 5th)
23. Johnny Herbert (4, 6th)
24. David Coulthard (3, 4th)
25. Olivier Beretta (2, 6th)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 29 Dec 2012, 13:19

Got another question - if there are instances where a team loses its constructors' points but the drivers' points stand (such as Brazil 1995 with Benetton and Williams' illegal fuel and and McLaren losing all their constructors points in 2007), then which team gets disqualified?

If McLaren don't get eliminated at all in 2007 as none of their constructors points stood, then that could cost Heidfeld (probably going to be him) the championship.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 29 Dec 2012, 16:12

James1978 wrote:Got another question - if there are instances where a team loses its constructors' points but the drivers' points stand (such as Brazil 1995 with Benetton and Williams' illegal fuel and and McLaren losing all their constructors points in 2007), then which team gets disqualified?

If McLaren don't get eliminated at all in 2007 as none of their constructors points stood, then that could cost Heidfeld (probably going to be him) the championship.

Uh, that's actually a good question, I never considered that. But I've decided just now that the best team should logically be decided by constructors' points, so for example, McLaren's drivers will not get disqualified in 2007.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 29 Dec 2012, 21:18

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
James1978 wrote:Got another question - if there are instances where a team loses its constructors' points but the drivers' points stand (such as Brazil 1995 with Benetton and Williams' illegal fuel and and McLaren losing all their constructors points in 2007), then which team gets disqualified?

If McLaren don't get eliminated at all in 2007 as none of their constructors points stood, then that could cost Heidfeld (probably going to be him) the championship.

Uh, that's actually a good question, I never considered that. But I've decided just now that the best team should logically be decided by constructors' points, so for example, McLaren's drivers will not get disqualified in 2007.

Going by this, I imagine then that there will be some races in 1997 where Ferrari will still be disqualified from some races despite Schumacher being a non-scorer, because his positions still counted towards the Constructors' Championship?