alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
18th November 2007: After the withdrawal of Alfa and the lack on entries for 2008 the WTCC is put up for sale by current leaders the FIA
20th November 2007: WTCC is bought by the Touring car corporation, old leader meanwhile is sacked the by the FIA
21st November. FIA leader Max Mosley is shot after brides to overturn the TCC Mosley's body was found in a ditch outside Moscow , it is believed TCC leader Vladamir pavatoski is responsible
22nd november: Entries are opened for the 2008 WTCC, Seat and BMW confirm entries Diseal power is banned
More to follow... (sorry for spelling mistakes)
20th November 2007: WTCC is bought by the Touring car corporation, old leader meanwhile is sacked the by the FIA
21st November. FIA leader Max Mosley is shot after brides to overturn the TCC Mosley's body was found in a ditch outside Moscow , it is believed TCC leader Vladamir pavatoski is responsible
22nd november: Entries are opened for the 2008 WTCC, Seat and BMW confirm entries Diseal power is banned
More to follow... (sorry for spelling mistakes)
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Rather extreme basis for this with Max Mosley being shot.
Should be interesting.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Samster wrote:Rather extreme basis for this with Max Mosley being shot.Should be interesting.
you wait to see who the gunman is which will be revealed after I watch the FIA GT championship which I recorded earlier
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
andrew wrote:Samster wrote:Rather extreme basis for this with Max Mosley being shot.Should be interesting.
you wait to see who the gunman is which will be revealed after I watch the FIA GT championship which I recorded earlier
Don't tell me it was Alex Wurz...
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
takagi_for_the_win wrote:andrew wrote:Samster wrote:Rather extreme basis for this with Max Mosley being shot.Should be interesting.
you wait to see who the gunman is which will be revealed after I watch the FIA GT championship which I recorded earlier
Don't tell me it was Alex Wurz...
Incorrected but linked with the murder
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
23rd November
Mosley murderer in cuffs
Police today arrested the gunman who blew away Max Mosley, the gunman was named as Jean Todt, he left the gun at the scene and his DNA was on it. At about 10:19 today Italian police raided the Todt household, Jean Surrendered quickly. In court he was asked why did you do it? too which he replied I was told too. but he would not reveal the name of his employers.
Also today some teams confirmed entries and drivers, Chevy entered with the same line-up as last year, while Austra-hungeria entered with Alex Wurz and HWNWSNBM but did not confirm the car. Here is the enry list so far
BMW Team 1
1. Andy Priaux
2. Agusto Farfus
BMW Team Germany
7. Jorg Muller
8. Dirk Muller
BMW Italia spain
15. Alex Zanardi
17. Felix Porterio
Seat Sport uk
3. Yvan Muller
4. Gabrielli Tarquini
5. Ricard Rydell
6. Jordi Gene
9 Tiago Monterio
Chevy
10. alain Menu
11. Nicola Larini
12. Rob Huff
Austro-Hungaria ( TBC)
13. Alex Wurz
14. HWMWSNBM
Mosley murderer in cuffs
Police today arrested the gunman who blew away Max Mosley, the gunman was named as Jean Todt, he left the gun at the scene and his DNA was on it. At about 10:19 today Italian police raided the Todt household, Jean Surrendered quickly. In court he was asked why did you do it? too which he replied I was told too. but he would not reveal the name of his employers.
Also today some teams confirmed entries and drivers, Chevy entered with the same line-up as last year, while Austra-hungeria entered with Alex Wurz and HWNWSNBM but did not confirm the car. Here is the enry list so far
BMW Team 1
1. Andy Priaux
2. Agusto Farfus
BMW Team Germany
7. Jorg Muller
8. Dirk Muller
BMW Italia spain
15. Alex Zanardi
17. Felix Porterio
Seat Sport uk
3. Yvan Muller
4. Gabrielli Tarquini
5. Ricard Rydell
6. Jordi Gene
9 Tiago Monterio
Chevy
10. alain Menu
11. Nicola Larini
12. Rob Huff
Austro-Hungaria ( TBC)
13. Alex Wurz
14. HWMWSNBM
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
They say the murderer is a former racing driver who suffered from alleged evidence-planting of alleged use of illegal substances in 1997 after setting a race car on fire out of frustation. He also is rumored to be reported on laundering robbery money. ![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
I agree that the background seems too dark.![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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I agree that the background seems too dark.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
24-29 November
Many teams enter the new look championship, Lada, Volvo, VW, Honda, ford and Alfa are the new manufactures while now all new teams will be independent. Only Lada and Volvo confirmed drivers at the championship ceremony in Seoul.
Polestar Volvo
Robert Dahlgren
mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada
Vitaly Petrov
Alexey Dudukalo
Also the TCC anounced the first of 4 test sessions in January 19-21 at Kylami
Many teams enter the new look championship, Lada, Volvo, VW, Honda, ford and Alfa are the new manufactures while now all new teams will be independent. Only Lada and Volvo confirmed drivers at the championship ceremony in Seoul.
Polestar Volvo
Robert Dahlgren
mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada
Vitaly Petrov
Alexey Dudukalo
Also the TCC anounced the first of 4 test sessions in January 19-21 at Kylami
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
FMecha wrote:They say the murderer is a former racing driver who suffered from alleged evidence-planting of alleged use of illegal substances in 1997 after setting a race car on fire out of frustation. He also is rumored to be reported on laundering robbery money.
I agree that the background seems too dark.
It also doesn't fit in this, given that this is not part of the RWRS canon.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
andrew wrote:24-29 November
Many teams enter the new look championship, Lada, Volvo, VW, Honda, ford and Alfa are the new manufactures while now all new teams will be independent. Only Lada and Volvo confirmed drivers at the championship ceremony in Seoul.
Polestar Volvo
16.Robert Dahlgren
17.mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada
18.Vitaly Petrov
19. Alexey Dudukalo
Also the TCC anounced the first of 4 test sessions in January 19-21 at Kylami
On the 30th of November the rest of the manufacturer Teams confirmed entries as well as numbers
Polestar Volvo
16.Robert Dahlgren
17.mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada
18.Vitaly Petrov
19. Alexey Dudukalo
VW sport
20. Andreas Mikkleson
21. Sean Hollomby
Honda
22. Kamui Kobayashi
23. Takuma Sato
Ford sports
24. Tom Chilton
25. James Nash
Liqui Moly Alfa sports
26. Fabrizio Giovanardi
27. James Thompson
ill let you lot decide some independent entries if you want. Also the TCC confirmed the other 3 test sessions
1-3 February Goodwood (uk)
12-15 February Laguna Sega
22-25 February Helsinki Street circuit
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The other indipendent drivers are as follows
Tom and Tim Coronel
Colin Turkington and Matt Jackson
Stefano Da'ste and Sergio Hernandez
Jason Plato and Darren Turner
Robb Holland and Frank Wrathell
Rob Austin and Felipe Albuquerque
Alex McDowell and Matt Neal
Norbert Michelisz and Michel Nykjær
Franz Engstler and Kristian Poulsen
Tom and Tim Coronel
Colin Turkington and Matt Jackson
Stefano Da'ste and Sergio Hernandez
Jason Plato and Darren Turner
Robb Holland and Frank Wrathell
Rob Austin and Felipe Albuquerque
Alex McDowell and Matt Neal
Norbert Michelisz and Michel Nykjær
Franz Engstler and Kristian Poulsen
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
andrew wrote:Colin Turkington and Matt Jackson
I approve of this pairing.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:andrew wrote:Colin Turkington and Matt Jackson
I approve of this pairing.
I would love to see them paired together
Anyway
Calender
15 race weekends 2 races at each one sprint one feature only Donington Park has been confirmed as meeting 5
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Given that in 2010, Wrathal was still in the feeder formulae for BTCC, I wouldn't put him in the 2008 WTCC. Also, as much as I would like to see it, I doubt Rob Austin would be in the series either.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Given that in 2010, Wrathal was still in the feeder formulae for BTCC, I wouldn't put him in the 2008 WTCC. Also, as much as I would like to see it, I doubt Rob Austin would be in the series either.
they are doing selected rounds for Proton
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
1st January 2008
Final lineup
BMW Team 1 (Bmw 320i)
1. Andy Priaux
2. Agusto Farfus
BMW Team Germany (bmw 320i)
7. Jorg Muller
8. Dirk Muller
BMW Italia spain (BMW 320I)
15. Alex Zanardi
17. Felix Porterio
Seat Sport uk (Seat leon)
3. Yvan Muller
4. Gabrielli Tarquini
5. Ricard Rydell
6. Jordi Gene
9 Tiago Monterio
Chevy (Chevy Laccetei)
10. alain Menu
11. Nicola Larini
12. Rob Huff
Austro-Hungaria ( Honda Integra)
13. Alex Wurz
14. HWMWSNBM
Polestar Volvo (Volvo v80)
16.Robert Dahlgren
81.mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada (Lada 110)
18.Vitaly Petrov
19. Alexey Dudukalo
VW sport (vw polo)
20. Andreas Mikkleson
21. Sean Hollomby
Honda (Honda civic)
22. Kamui Kobayashi
23. Takuma Sato
Ford sports (For Focus ST)
24. Tom Chilton
25. James Nash
Liqui Moly Alfa sports (Alfa Romeo 156)
26. Fabrizio Giovanardi
27. James Thompson
Sunred Coronel Racing (SEAT TOLADO)
28. Tom Coronel
29. Tim Coronel
Ebay Jackson sports (BMW 320SI)
30. Matt Jackson
31. Colin Turkington
Wiechers sport (BMW 320SI)
32. Stefano Da'ste
33. Sergio Hernendez
Seat GB (SEAT LEON)
34. Jason Plato
35. Darren Turner
Dynojet (TOYOTA CORROLA)
36. Robb Holland
37. Frank Wrathell
wixx Racing (Audi a4)
38. Rob Austin
39. Felipe Albuquerque
Mcdowell Neal Sports ( Honda Accord)
40. Mat Neal
41. Alex Mcdowell
danish Motorsports (BMW 320SI)
42. Norbert Michelisz
43. Michel Nykjær
Englser Racing (BMW 320SI)
Franz Engstler and Kristian Poulsen
Guest star sports
TBC
TBC
Final lineup
BMW Team 1 (Bmw 320i)
1. Andy Priaux
2. Agusto Farfus
BMW Team Germany (bmw 320i)
7. Jorg Muller
8. Dirk Muller
BMW Italia spain (BMW 320I)
15. Alex Zanardi
17. Felix Porterio
Seat Sport uk (Seat leon)
3. Yvan Muller
4. Gabrielli Tarquini
5. Ricard Rydell
6. Jordi Gene
9 Tiago Monterio
Chevy (Chevy Laccetei)
10. alain Menu
11. Nicola Larini
12. Rob Huff
Austro-Hungaria ( Honda Integra)
13. Alex Wurz
14. HWMWSNBM
Polestar Volvo (Volvo v80)
16.Robert Dahlgren
81.mattias Ekstrom
Lukiol Lada (Lada 110)
18.Vitaly Petrov
19. Alexey Dudukalo
VW sport (vw polo)
20. Andreas Mikkleson
21. Sean Hollomby
Honda (Honda civic)
22. Kamui Kobayashi
23. Takuma Sato
Ford sports (For Focus ST)
24. Tom Chilton
25. James Nash
Liqui Moly Alfa sports (Alfa Romeo 156)
26. Fabrizio Giovanardi
27. James Thompson
Sunred Coronel Racing (SEAT TOLADO)
28. Tom Coronel
29. Tim Coronel
Ebay Jackson sports (BMW 320SI)
30. Matt Jackson
31. Colin Turkington
Wiechers sport (BMW 320SI)
32. Stefano Da'ste
33. Sergio Hernendez
Seat GB (SEAT LEON)
34. Jason Plato
35. Darren Turner
Dynojet (TOYOTA CORROLA)
36. Robb Holland
37. Frank Wrathell
wixx Racing (Audi a4)
38. Rob Austin
39. Felipe Albuquerque
Mcdowell Neal Sports ( Honda Accord)
40. Mat Neal
41. Alex Mcdowell
danish Motorsports (BMW 320SI)
42. Norbert Michelisz
43. Michel Nykjær
Englser Racing (BMW 320SI)
Franz Engstler and Kristian Poulsen
Guest star sports
TBC
TBC
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8th January
Calender released
1. Race of Australia (Adalaide)
2. Race of Brazil (TBC)
3. Race of Argentina (Buenos Airers)
4. Race of France (Pau)
5. Race of GB (Donington)
6. Race of the U.S.A (Laguna Sega)
7. Race of Canada (Gilles Villenueve)
8. Race of Belgium (Spa)
9. Race of Italy (Monza)
10. Race of Europe (TBC)
11. Race of Japan (Okyama)
12. Race of Malaysia (Sepang)
13. Race of Russia (Moscow raceway)
14. Race of Czech Republic (Brno)
15 Race of Macau (Macau)
Calender released
1. Race of Australia (Adalaide)
2. Race of Brazil (TBC)
3. Race of Argentina (Buenos Airers)
4. Race of France (Pau)
5. Race of GB (Donington)
6. Race of the U.S.A (Laguna Sega)
7. Race of Canada (Gilles Villenueve)
8. Race of Belgium (Spa)
9. Race of Italy (Monza)
10. Race of Europe (TBC)
11. Race of Japan (Okyama)
12. Race of Malaysia (Sepang)
13. Race of Russia (Moscow raceway)
14. Race of Czech Republic (Brno)
15 Race of Macau (Macau)
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
The TCC have decided to let fans vote for the circuit of the round of Europe the choices are
A. Imola
B. Anderstop
C. Jerez
D. Porto
E. Oschersleben
f. A1 Ring
g. Istanbul Park
H. Zandvoort
Also the Race of brazil venue has been decided using Random.org
1-3 Interlagos
4-6 Curitiba
7-9 Jacarepaguá
and the result is...9
A. Imola
B. Anderstop
C. Jerez
D. Porto
E. Oschersleben
f. A1 Ring
g. Istanbul Park
H. Zandvoort
Also the Race of brazil venue has been decided using Random.org
1-3 Interlagos
4-6 Curitiba
7-9 Jacarepaguá
and the result is...9
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Edited post
I vote A
I vote A
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
andrew wrote:C'mon people VOTE
Well, I was gonna wait until I got some sleep, but if you're gonna be that impatient I might not at all.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Sorry it is just my nature
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
I anybody wants to know I am using random.org to decide weather and imagination and random.org with car numbers
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
I say Imola. And I was initially surprised that James Thompson was not in a Lada, but then when I noticed that he was in an Alfa Romeo, I realised that that made sense.
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
voting at the moment:
Imola: 2
The rest:0
Imola: 2
The rest:0
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Of course, I reckon that the Manx TT course would be more suited to touring cars than single-seaters and I would like to see a fictional race there at some point, but I doubt it'll happen here???
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
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dr-baker wrote:Of course, I reckon that the Manx TT course would be more suited to touring cars than single-seaters and I would like to see a fictional race there at some point, but I doubt it'll happen here???
We can have a race there in 2009
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Imola!? No! There's already an Italian round! Clearly the correct choice is Oschesleben!
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
andrew wrote:dr-baker wrote:Of course, I reckon that the Manx TT course would be more suited to touring cars than single-seaters and I would like to see a fictional race there at some point, but I doubt it'll happen here???
We can have a race there in 2009
Yes!
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Imola!? No! There's already an Italian round! Clearly the correct choice is Oschesleben!
I'll second Oschersleben, if only because I want to see how many cars get eliminated at the first corner...
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Isle of man to host a race in 2009
Today it was confirmed by the TCC that the isle of man would host a race in 2009, it would be 1 endurance test worth extra points
Today it was confirmed by the TCC that the isle of man would host a race in 2009, it would be 1 endurance test worth extra points
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
I will close voting on Friday, if there is a tie both tracks get a race.
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
I vote Oschersleben.
It has the worst first corner in racing, is unnecessarily narrow and has no flow to it apart from maybe the last few corners. What can go wrong?
As for Brazil I suggest Curitiba, it is actually a great race track and my second favourite to drive in Race 07 (behind Brands Hatch).
It has the worst first corner in racing, is unnecessarily narrow and has no flow to it apart from maybe the last few corners. What can go wrong?
As for Brazil I suggest Curitiba, it is actually a great race track and my second favourite to drive in Race 07 (behind Brands Hatch).
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
Shadaza wrote:I vote Oschersleben.
It has the worst first corner in racing, is unnecessarily narrow and has no flow to it apart from maybe the last few corners. What can go wrong?
As for Brazil I suggest Curitiba, it is actually a great race track and my second favourite to drive in Race 07 (behind Brands Hatch).
Brazil has been decided already using Random.org
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Honda dominate Kylami day 1
The teams arrived in south Africa for the first day of winter testing, however nobody was ready and the only cars that took to the track were the bmw,s and the Honda,s. Chevy sat out the test as a factory in S.A was ransacked.
Day one:
weather: Monsoon
Takuma Sato was the first man out on track and the first to crash as he gilded off the road and into the barrier, day over for him. The first lap time was by HWNSNBM at a 2:19.098 by he was not pushing, only Wurz dirk Muller and Kobayashi set more lap times. The day was stopped 2 hours from the end when a horrendous crash from Farfus in which the car flipped over and over brought out the red flag.
times from day 1:
1.HWNSNBM: 2.19.098 (Austro-Hugaria)
2. Alex Wurz 2:22.489 (Austro-Hungaria)
3. Kamui Kobayashi 2.37.483 (Honda)
4. Dirk Muller 2.54.893 (BMW team Germany)
The teams arrived in south Africa for the first day of winter testing, however nobody was ready and the only cars that took to the track were the bmw,s and the Honda,s. Chevy sat out the test as a factory in S.A was ransacked.
Day one:
weather: Monsoon
Takuma Sato was the first man out on track and the first to crash as he gilded off the road and into the barrier, day over for him. The first lap time was by HWNSNBM at a 2:19.098 by he was not pushing, only Wurz dirk Muller and Kobayashi set more lap times. The day was stopped 2 hours from the end when a horrendous crash from Farfus in which the car flipped over and over brought out the red flag.
times from day 1:
1.HWNSNBM: 2.19.098 (Austro-Hugaria)
2. Alex Wurz 2:22.489 (Austro-Hungaria)
3. Kamui Kobayashi 2.37.483 (Honda)
4. Dirk Muller 2.54.893 (BMW team Germany)
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
More Moonsoon in Africa
Day 2 of winter testing was cancelled altogether at Kylami due to the heavy flooding of the circuit. Kylami has been fined for lying about their flood control. Weather looks better for day 3 and 4 though so expect time on those days
![Image](http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1892/sainflood.jpg)
Day 2 of winter testing was cancelled altogether at Kylami due to the heavy flooding of the circuit. Kylami has been fined for lying about their flood control. Weather looks better for day 3 and 4 though so expect time on those days
![Image](http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1892/sainflood.jpg)
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Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-????
so Oschersleben wins
Re: alternate reality WTCC 2008-???? Honda top time sheets
Honda domainate final day
Honda again showed great pace by locking out the first 4 places at the final test with the new car being the fastest, however this can be explained by the lack of participation with only Honda sending all its cars infanct only BMW, Seat and Dynojet sent cars other than Honda meaning for a very quiet day in the heat of South Africa
Due to a very hot dry night the track was drying fast, in the morning with most car focusing on bedding the car in and wet wether setups it was Wurz who was fastest with a 2:09.811 however this time was set to get smashed on a drying and grippier track ad sure it did all cars smashed e original benchmarcks with the Hondas swapping fastest lap times until eventually Satomset an unbeatable time at a 1:49.349
1. Takuma Sato 1:49.349
2. HWNWSNBM 1:49.888
3. Alex Wurz. 1:49.901
4. Kamui Kobayashi 1:49.931
5. Andy Priaux 1:51.743
6. Frank Wrathell. 1:54.621
7. Rickard Rydell. 1:54.699
8. Augusto Farfus. 1:55.593
Honda again showed great pace by locking out the first 4 places at the final test with the new car being the fastest, however this can be explained by the lack of participation with only Honda sending all its cars infanct only BMW, Seat and Dynojet sent cars other than Honda meaning for a very quiet day in the heat of South Africa
Due to a very hot dry night the track was drying fast, in the morning with most car focusing on bedding the car in and wet wether setups it was Wurz who was fastest with a 2:09.811 however this time was set to get smashed on a drying and grippier track ad sure it did all cars smashed e original benchmarcks with the Hondas swapping fastest lap times until eventually Satomset an unbeatable time at a 1:49.349
1. Takuma Sato 1:49.349
2. HWNWSNBM 1:49.888
3. Alex Wurz. 1:49.901
4. Kamui Kobayashi 1:49.931
5. Andy Priaux 1:51.743
6. Frank Wrathell. 1:54.621
7. Rickard Rydell. 1:54.699
8. Augusto Farfus. 1:55.593
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Well done to Honda. Flooded track at kyalami is odd because its meant to be summer
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