The Ali Dia Football/Soccer Thread

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 20 Apr 2013, 20:50

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Anyway, back in the the real world, Stoke beat QPR. Yes everyone, Stoke won a match Even worse, it was away from home Not only does this win make our survival look more likely, it has also pretty much condemned QPR to relegation, which means I now have a 100% winning record when it comes to bets.

Even though I'm a spurs fan, I still fear Stoke as they have a bloody good squad built on a minimum budget.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Apr 2013, 03:51

Stramala wrote:
FMecha wrote:A madness I wrote in xkoranate.

For the record, Mobile Chicanes FC uses "Vanuatu - Road to World Cup" squad and the Grand Prix Rejects club uses the (unused) "Dageham and Rejects" squad.

You picked the worst possible file host possible?? One where apparently files can't even be downloaded without paying a fee? Free ones like Dropbox and Mediafire are a trillion times better than that rubbish...

I ain't got time to use stuff you mentioned, sh*te. I'll reupload it in a better place though, stay tuned.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Apr 2013, 09:31

roblomas52 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Anyway, back in the the real world, Stoke beat QPR. Yes everyone, Stoke won a match Even worse, it was away from home Not only does this win make our survival look more likely, it has also pretty much condemned QPR to relegation, which means I now have a 100% winning record when it comes to bets.

Even though I'm a spurs fan, I still fear Stoke as they have a bloody good squad built on a minimum budget.

It all went down the toilet for Stoke when they sent Rory Delap away on loan. Stoke IS Delap. No Delap, no Stoke in PL. Simple. How else are they going to score from throw-ins now?!

Post by **Ataxia** » 21 Apr 2013, 11:50

Stramala wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Anyway, back in the the real world, Stoke beat QPR. Yes everyone, Stoke won a match Even worse, it was away from home Not only does this win make our survival look more likely, it has also pretty much condemned QPR to relegation, which means I now have a 100% winning record when it comes to bets.

Even though I'm a spurs fan, I still fear Stoke as they have a bloody good squad built on a minimum budget.

It all went down the toilet for Stoke when they sent Rory Delap away on loan. Stoke IS Delap. No Delap, no Stoke in PL. Simple. How else are they going to score from throw-ins now?!

Well, they've still got Ryan Shotton!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Apr 2013, 14:53

Bad luck David AGS, Inter just edged it, thanks to...erm, Rocchi. Every time I keep mentioning his poor scoring record, he scores. 3 goals in 13 months. Maybe he's not so bad after all.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 21 Apr 2013, 15:35

Stramala wrote:Bad luck David AGS, Inter just edged it, thanks to...erm, Rocchi. Every time I keep mentioning his poor scoring record, he scores. 3 goals in 13 months. Maybe he's not so bad after all.

Now you've said that, he'll stop scoring.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Apr 2013, 18:50

The xkoranate madness thing is now up on my Google Drive.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 23 Apr 2013, 10:24

Holy smokes! Bayern has signed Mario Götze for the next season! :shock:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22261981

For once, it will certainly mean that Robben will leave us. I'm also afraid that either Müller or Kroos will end up more often on the bench than they desire. While I can definitely understand the outrage of the Dortmund-fans, a Ribery-Götze-Müller line-up in the offensive midfield is certainly dynamite. I just hope that Dortmund can cope with the loss quickly, because I don't want a guaranteed "Bayernwinslol" for the next seasons.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Apr 2013, 12:01

Ferrarist wrote:Holy smokes! Bayern has signed Mario Götze for the next season! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22261981

For once, it will certainly mean that Robben will leave us. I'm also afraid that either Müller or Kroos will end up more often on the bench than they desire. While I can definitely understand the outrage of the Dortmund-fans, a Ribery-Götze-Müller line-up in the offensive midfield is certainly dynamite. I just hope that Dortmund can cope with the loss quickly, because I don't want a guaranteed "Bayernwinslol" for the next seasons.

That's painful for the Bundesliga. Already Bayern were crushing everyone in the league this year, and now they've gone and weakened their closest opposition.

However, if rumours are to be believed, both Arjen Robben and Mario Gomez are moving to Inter this summer...yeah, right :roll:

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 23 Apr 2013, 12:23

Stramala wrote:However, if rumours are to be believed, both Arjen Robben and Mario Gomez are moving to Inter this summer...yeah, right

I think that Robben will go to Galatasaray, where he can be with his good buddy Sneijder. As for Gomez...not so sure if he will stay with Bayern to be honest. In fact, I find it possible that he'll go to Dortmund. Gomez is supported by Puma, who in turn support Borussia Dortmund. Maybe Puma wants to stick it to the other clothing factory from Herzogenaurach, by snatching a good striker away from Bayern.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 23 Apr 2013, 15:08

Ferrarist wrote:Holy smokes! Bayern has signed Mario Götze for the next season! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22261981

For once, it will certainly mean that Robben will leave us. I'm also afraid that either Müller or Kroos will end up more often on the bench than they desire. While I can definitely understand the outrage of the Dortmund-fans, a Ribery-Götze-Müller line-up in the offensive midfield is certainly dynamite. I just hope that Dortmund can cope with the loss quickly, because I don't want a guaranteed "Bayernwinslol" for the next seasons.

And that is a probable bye bye Bundesliga interest for me. With Bayern trouncing everyone in sight, the league will have much trouble selling itself. If indeed Bayern will start to dominate, it is the 3rd European league that I used to follow that have become pointless at the front. Celtic got the handle of the SPL the moment Rangers went bankrupt, PSG is out buying everyone in France and will still run away with it without even the need to perform at their best. If Mourinho leaves Real Madrid, it is most likely that Spain will have Barcelonawinslol for another couple of years at least. With it only the Italian, Portuguese and the EPL are now worth of seeing. Must turn my attention to the Dutch and the Russian divisions then...

The only thing that I was afraid when the Super/Euro League idea came around was that all those established clubs would drop the opposition and eventually become the only thing relevant football wise erasing the chance of others to win things. Given the way the leagues are going, it won't be far way the day this idea will come up again and taken more seriously.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 23 Apr 2013, 15:20

DanielPT wrote:The only thing that I was afraid when the Super/Euro League idea came around was that all those established clubs would drop the opposition and eventually become the only thing relevant football wise erasing the chance of others to win things. Given the way the leagues are going, it won't be far way the day this idea will come up again and taken more seriously.

That's the sad truth. Either we accept the fact that investors are an easy way to improve a club's squad, or we have to allow Europe's top clubs to form their own super league. But the latter would involve an ugly mess: How would relegation be handled? Would there be any relegation at all? Thus, clubs would just have to buy a franchise, if they desire to compete in the Super League. On the other hand, it would reduce the remaining teams to mere farm teams that train the future talent for super league clubs. Not to mention the expected opposition of the UEFA. We've already seen it with the proposed "Soviet League" in Russia and the Ukraine, or the BeNeLux League.
Of course, it's anyone's personal preference if he wants to see an "Americanization" of the association football in Europe.

Post by **Londoner** » 23 Apr 2013, 20:40

Cor lumme, Barcelona have been absolutely destroyed by Bayern tonight. :shock:

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 23 Apr 2013, 21:06

East Londoner wrote:Cor lumme, Barcelona have been absolutely destroyed by Bayern tonight.

Goodbye Barca
Who do you think will win tomorrow night out of Bourissa Dortmund and Real Madrid

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 24 Apr 2013, 12:27

For some reason, I've been reading a lot of Wikipedia pages on world football leagues, and especially the lower divisions. At some stage I'll have to highlight the true Rejects Of The 2012-13 Season Awards, but the first I'll have to mention are just up the road from me: Hucknall Town, who might have been a Conference club in 2004-05 if their ground had been up to scratch, but it wasn't. Now, their disastrous season in the Northern Premier League Division One South reads: P40, W4, D4, L32, F39, A163. 16 points, with a goal difference of -124, had them relegated about a month ago, and with two games to go they're 18 points behind Mickleover Sports, who are just above them. Lowlights include a 9-1 home defeat by Coalville Town, who are still in with a chance of winning the league, and a 13-0 mauling at Loughborough Dynamo, which is a scoreline more suited to rugby.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 24 Apr 2013, 17:41

dinizintheoven wrote:For some reason, I've been reading a lot of Wikipedia pages on world football leagues, and especially the lower divisions. At some stage I'll have to highlight the true Rejects Of The 2012-13 Season Awards, but the first I'll have to mention are just up the road from me: Hucknall Town, who might have been a Conference club in 2004-05 if their ground had been up to scratch, but it wasn't. Now, their disastrous season in the Northern Premier League Division One South reads: P40, W4, D4, L32, F39, A163. 16 points, with a goal difference of -124, had them relegated about a month ago, and with two games to go they're 18 points behind Mickleover Sports, who are just above them. Lowlights include a 9-1 home defeat by Coalville Town, who are still in with a chance of winning the league, and a 13-0 mauling at Loughborough Dynamo, which is a scoreline more suited to rugby.

You should check out Prescott Cables

I'm not sure how they're doing these days, but 5 years back, they got relegated to the Uni-Bond Premier Division, with a grand total of 9 points (IIRC), and highlights included a 7-0 drubbing at the hands of a 10-man Telford United. Aaaah, those were the days...

andrew2209 · Post by **andrew2209** » 24 Apr 2013, 18:53

DanielPT wrote: If Mourinho leaves Real Madrid, it is most likely that Spain will have Barcelonawinslol for another couple of years at least.

Unless Catalonia decide to go independent from Spain.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 24 Apr 2013, 19:01

andrew2209 wrote:
DanielPT wrote: If Mourinho leaves Real Madrid, it is most likely that Spain will have Barcelonawinslol for another couple of years at least.

Unless Catalonia decide to go independent from Spain.

Which would the Catalan league even more boring than the Scottish. But didn't Barca say that they'd continue in La Liga?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Apr 2013, 20:18

Germany 8 - 1 Spain

Adios La Liga! Both Barca and Real absolutely hammered by Bundesliga teams. Maybe people will finally see how overrated the English and Spanish leagues are...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 24 Apr 2013, 20:39

dinizintheoven wrote:For some reason, I've been reading a lot of Wikipedia pages on world football leagues, and especially the lower divisions. At some stage I'll have to highlight the true Rejects Of The 2012-13 Season Awards, but the first I'll have to mention are just up the road from me: Hucknall Town, who might have been a Conference club in 2004-05 if their ground had been up to scratch, but it wasn't. Now, their disastrous season in the Northern Premier League Division One South reads: P40, W4, D4, L32, F39, A163. 16 points, with a goal difference of -124, had them relegated about a month ago, and with two games to go they're 18 points behind Mickleover Sports, who are just above them. Lowlights include a 9-1 home defeat by Coalville Town, who are still in with a chance of winning the league, and a 13-0 mauling at Loughborough Dynamo, which is a scoreline more suited to rugby.

Haven't Hinckley been doing something similar in the Conference North?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 24 Apr 2013, 20:40

Stramala wrote:Germany 8 - 1 Spain

Adios La Liga! Both Barca and Real absolutely hammered by Bundesliga teams. Maybe people will finally see how overrated the English and Spanish leagues are...

Suddenly the bet I put on Dortmund to win the whole thing (which I placed before the Quarter Finals) doesn't look so daft.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 24 Apr 2013, 20:41

Stramala wrote:Germany 8 - 1 Spain

Adios La Liga! Both Barca and Real absolutely hammered by Bundesliga teams. Maybe people will finally see how overrated the English and Spanish leagues are...

And who is Mario Götze? Robert Lewandowski is the real deal in Dortmund, and Borussia should try to extend their contract with him. Sponsored by Bayern Munich

EDIT: I haven't seen any interviews with Mourinho before, but he sounded like he was seriously fed up with Real, and that he just couldn't find any way to make it work out.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 24 Apr 2013, 21:29

Stramala wrote:Germany 8 - 1 Spain

Adios La Liga! Both Barca and Real absolutely hammered by Bundesliga teams. Maybe people will finally see how overrated the English and Spanish leagues are...

Maybe the English leagues are overrated in terms of talent and the ability of the top sides, but it's far more interesting to watch and follow than most of the leagues in Europe. Although Manchester United quite comfortably walked to the title this year, it is still relatively unknown out of about 5 teams who will win the league. Over in Europe, the leagues tend to be dominated by two teams, like Barca and Real in Spain, Dortmund and Bayern in Germany, etc, etc, with very very little chance that an outsider will even win against these teams let alone challenge them for the title.

Maybe this is why you follow the Italian league Stramala, the top teams haven't got the best squads in Europe on talent (this has been proved in European competition this year) but the league is far more open than say La Liga.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 24 Apr 2013, 21:32

pasta_maldonado wrote:Maybe the English leagues are overrated in terms of talent and the ability of the top sides, but it's far more interesting to watch and follow than most of the leagues in Europe. Although Manchester United quite comfortably walked to the title this year, it is still relatively unknown out of about 5 teams who will win the league. Over in Europe, the leagues tend to be dominated by two teams, like Barca and Real in Spain, Dortmund and Bayern in Germany, etc, etc, with very very little chance that an outsider will even win against these teams let alone challenge them for the title.

I agree that the Premier League is still the #1 league in the world, even if it's just by making billions (!) out of TV rights, and marketing themselves around the world. It'll take decades for the Bundesliga to reach that level. Although a German final in Wembley may speed things up a little bit. :mrgreen:

EDIT: I forgot, BILD has reported that Mourinho will return to Chelsea. Not only that, but Sugar Daddy Abramovitch has already a present named "Falcao" for him...

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Apr 2013, 01:26

Ferrarist wrote:
EDIT: I forgot, BILD has reported that Mourinho will return to Chelsea. Not only that, but Sugar Daddy Abramovitch has already a present named "Falcao" for him...

Nothing says welcome back like another potential Schevchenko and yet some more meddling from the board in the running of the team! :lol:

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 25 Apr 2013, 14:18

Barbazza wrote:Haven't Hinckley been doing something similar in the Conference North?

They were certainly in line for the next nomination - with one game to go, it's P41 W2 D4 L35 F33 A141. That's a goal difference of -108 - not quite as hideous as Hucknall Town's, but almost - and of the 10 points they've won, three were deducted for failing to pay creditors, and another three were lost when they missed a fixture against Bishop's Stortford (which I used to live just a stone's throw from). Losing over half your points from off-the-field misdemeanours can be considered very rejectful, but Hinckley, like Hucknall, are on the very edge of survival - both clubs have been long since relegated but it's unknown if either of them will make it as far as next season.

In a further skewer through the face of clubs beginning with H, Henley Town of the Hellenic League Division One East haven't won a game all season. Their ship is sinking faster than a rowing boat at the Regatta that's been hit by a torpedo: one game to go and it's P27 W0 D4 L23 F30 A114. Four points, a goal difference of -84, and they're as much in trouble as the others I've mentioned - they played in the Hellenic Premier Leagure last season, finished out of the relegation places but were forced down a division for "not building a stand to fulfil league requirements". Presumably their ground is little more than a pitch with some rudimentary terraces and a lot of open space. They almost collapsed last season but opted to play this season in Division One East, and it's not gone well to say the least. However, their website does point out that the all-time rejects of the Hellenic League are Princes Risborough Town, who played in the league's first season in 1953-54 and lost every match!

And on that note, here's the one I was looking for the other day; pole position for Football Rejects Of The Season are Woodford United, of the Southern League Division One Central. With 41 games played and only one to go... like Princes Risborough Town half a century ago, Woodford have lost all their games. They've hit the back of the net a mere 20 times, less than once every two games on average, have allowed 183 goals to spill past them, and it's hard to see how it could get any worse. However, in this division, the penalties for fielding an ineligible player are very harsh - Chalfont St. Peter did exactly that and were docked 15 points, which (strangely) has only cost them five places in the table - they weren't going to be promoted, nor were they ever in relegation trouble, but then... there's only one relegation place, and even Leighton Town, with their miserable record of W6 D5 L30 for all of 23 points, were long since safe due to Woodford's cataclysmically awful performance on the field. There's one game to go, at third in the table Godalming Town, and I suppose it's not a case of whether or not Woodford will lose, merely how much they will lose by.

The season's results read like an ever-increasing horror story. Having kept the scoreline of their opening day fixture away at North Greenford United to a respectable 1-0, they only managed to lose by a single goal four more times in the season - one 1-0 result, two 2-1s, and this gem: Reject Moment of the season could have been when they managed to score four times in a home match on 18th December... but allowed Leighton Town put five past them. The number of times they've shipped four or five goals in the season is more than I'm prepared to count, and higher scorelines aren't at all uncommon; once Beaconsfield SYCOB had put six past them on 27th October, the rot properly set in. Six times the goalie has been fishing seven balls out the net (courtesy of Chertsey Town, Burnham, Chalfont St. Peter, Rugby Town, Aylesbury, and Burnham again), Thatcham Town scored eight... but surely the worst sight for Woodford fans, if there are any left, was watching the two occasions in March when Biggleswade Town and Ashford Town racked up a double-figure score. Ten-nil both times, separated by only 11 days, and both of those results had just come after the 7-0 hammerings from Rugby and Aylesbury.

Here's an interesting article that goes some way to explaining how Woodford United have found themselves as the Southern League's punching bag this season. The article also mentions how Cornard United, of the Eastern Counties League Division One, had also lost all their matches up to that point - but since then, they've won one and drawn one and will most likely end the season on four points, as Henley Town will - it seems, though, that there is nowhere for Cornard to be relegated to and they may well end up facing the same trial again next season.

Formula One Rejects salutes this season's Football Rejects. They even play in colours that scream "Life Racing Engines!" louder than the emphysema-riddled W12 could ever manage. If anyone can find a better nomination than this team, go for it.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Apr 2013, 14:44

Ha! Woodford United is up the road from where I used to live, up to about 6 months ago! I'm pretty sure I went to school with a couple of the lads in that photo as well! :lol:

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 25 Apr 2013, 17:43

And Princes Risborough is very close to where I was brought up. My Great Nan and Grandad used to live there. Sounds like my Great Nan could have played in that team of the 50s without making them too much worse!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 25 Apr 2013, 18:00

I'm not impressed by your reject teams. Kanne VV (playing in Provincial league 4D in Limburg, so 8th and lowest level in Belgium) has conceded 270 goals in 33 matches (that does not include cup matches, i got no information on that) They scored only 18 times, and lost all its games except for one, which was a draw. That's on average more than 8 goals conceded per game.
In fact, this is some sort of cult team, as a few years back, some rich guy decided to make a commercial to raise supporters on national television. It didn't really help, they only got worse.
No, they are not the Life Racing Engines or Andrea Moda of football. They are the Taki Inoue of the football, because they are actually a little bit proud of their reputation 'worst team of Belgium'.

Yeah sure, it's the lowest level, and they are amateurs, but there probably about 500 teams in the lowest level, and no one of them is nearly as bad.

andrew2209 · Post by **andrew2209** » 25 Apr 2013, 19:36

Looking the other way in the English non-leagues, Newport County may be able to return to the Football League, after reforming when the original club went bankrupt. Also, Chester FC and FC Halifax also look to be rising up the non-league system since being formed after their predecessors ceased to exist. Also, does anyone else think there should be an extra promotion/relegation sopt between League 2 and the Conference, seeing as almost half of the conference is made up of former league clubs, and mos of the clubs in the division are professional?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 26 Apr 2013, 01:20

This wrote:I'm not impressed by your reject teams. Kanne VV (playing in Provincial league 4D in Limburg, so 8th and lowest level in Belgium) has conceded 270 goals in 33 matches (that does not include cup matches, i got no information on that) They scored only 18 times, and lost all its games except for one, which was a draw. That's on average more than 8 goals conceded per game.
In fact, this is some sort of cult team, as a few years back, some rich guy decided to make a commercial to raise supporters on national television. It didn't really help, they only got worse.
No, they are not the Life Racing Engines or Andrea Moda of football. They are the Taki Inoue of the football, because they are actually a little bit proud of their reputation 'worst team of Belgium'.
Yeah sure, it's the lowest level, and they are amateurs, but there probably about 500 teams in the lowest level, and no one of them is nearly as bad.

All right, I looked at devoetbalmartkt.be... and found Kanne let in a double-figure score nine times, including a 20-1 annihilation at Borgloon. But an extra-special Extremely Dishonourable Mention must go to Vliermaalroot, the only team that couldn't do the double over them - assuming none of the others fail to win that fixture in what little remains of the season.

I can still beat Kanne's 2012-13 season, though, with one from last year: a French-language Faceache page calling for support for Kanne drew my attention to Vesqueville, whose 2011-12 season in Luxembourg Provincial Division 3C saw them lose all their games, with a goal difference as cataclysmically terrible as Kanne's. Only thing is, Kanne had 34 games this season to record their miserable performance; Vesqueville had only 24 games, and 16 of those saw them concede a double-figure scoreline. They scored eight goals all season. They didn't score any points in 2010-11 either, had a similar minus-almost-300 goal difference and lost one game 27-2.

The Belgian league at this level appears to work strangely - I'd have thought divisions 3A-3E would all be on the same level for various parts of the province, but it seems not, and 3A-3E are all on top of each other; Vesqueville weren't relegated for their 2010-11 performance, so played again in 3C for 2011-12, but this season they've been playing in 3D... and drew one match! They lost the rest, mind, and have only shipped a two-figure score six times, so their goal difference is a mere -139. I assume they'll be in 3E in 2013-14... but where would they go down from there?

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 26 Apr 2013, 10:39

andrew2209 wrote:Also, does anyone else think there should be an extra promotion/relegation sopt between League 2 and the Conference, seeing as almost half of the conference is made up of former league clubs, and mos of the clubs in the division are professional?

I like it with 2 spots up for grabs, makes it more competitive to try and get those promotion spots. Remember when just one team got relegated from Division 3 and promoted from the Conference each season.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 26 Apr 2013, 18:50

dinizintheoven wrote:
This wrote:I'm not impressed by your reject teams. Kanne VV (playing in Provincial league 4D in Limburg, so 8th and lowest level in Belgium) has conceded 270 goals in 33 matches (that does not include cup matches, i got no information on that) They scored only 18 times, and lost all its games except for one, which was a draw. That's on average more than 8 goals conceded per game.
In fact, this is some sort of cult team, as a few years back, some rich guy decided to make a commercial to raise supporters on national television. It didn't really help, they only got worse.
No, they are not the Life Racing Engines or Andrea Moda of football. They are the Taki Inoue of the football, because they are actually a little bit proud of their reputation 'worst team of Belgium'.
Yeah sure, it's the lowest level, and they are amateurs, but there probably about 500 teams in the lowest level, and no one of them is nearly as bad.

All right, I looked at devoetbalmartkt.be... and found Kanne let in a double-figure score nine times, including a 20-1 annihilation at Borgloon. But an extra-special Extremely Dishonourable Mention must go to Vliermaalroot, the only team that couldn't do the double over them - assuming none of the others fail to win that fixture in what little remains of the season.

I can still beat Kanne's 2012-13 season, though, with one from last year: a French-language Faceache page calling for support for Kanne drew my attention to Vesqueville, whose 2011-12 season in Luxembourg Provincial Division 3C saw them lose all their games, with a goal difference as cataclysmically terrible as Kanne's. Only thing is, Kanne had 34 games this season to record their miserable performance; Vesqueville had only 24 games, and 16 of those saw them concede a double-figure scoreline. They scored eight goals all season. They didn't score any points in 2010-11 either, had a similar minus-almost-300 goal difference and lost one game 27-2.

The Belgian league at this level appears to work strangely - I'd have thought divisions 3A-3E would all be on the same level for various parts of the province, but it seems not, and 3A-3E are all on top of each other; Vesqueville weren't relegated for their 2010-11 performance, so played again in 3C for 2011-12, but this season they've been playing in 3D... and drew one match! They lost the rest, mind, and have only shipped a two-figure score six times, so their goal difference is a mere -139. I assume they'll be in 3E in 2013-14... but where would they go down from there?

3A to 3E is the same level, but teams get reshuffled to get a geographical balance after each season. This is to make sure teams don't have to travel too far. To understand this, you will have to look at the national 4th league, which is also geographically balanced, but it's not always the same balance. Currently that balance is 4A: West-Flanders, East-Flanders, 4B: Brussels region, Hainaut 4C: Antwerp, Limburg and non-Brussels part of Brabant, and 4D is Liege, Namur and Luxembourg. But it depends on how many teams from each region there are (thus who gets relegated from 3d division to 4th division) . It's pretty logical once somebody explains it. A similar system is used in provincial leagues. I looked up on a map where this town is located, and it's indeed located somewhere in the middle of the province, so they might change division every year, depending on where their opponents are located.
And the Luxemburg province doesn't have a 4th division, because of not having enough teams, so that team just didn't get relegated because it was already in the lowest division. A notable exception is the Brabant/Brussels provincial league, which somehow allows B-teams, creating a ridiculous amount of divisions.
So it's difficult to say how bad Kanne VV is compared to Vesqueville as it is difficult to judge the difference in level of their opponents. But yeah, that's what you got with 'flemish media', they only have stats about at the 'flemish' divisions :roll:

I'm not informed how bad Vesqueville has been over the years, i only know that Kanne is going from bad to worse, and that they are proud of being the worst team. So they are indeed the Taki Inoue of football.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 27 Apr 2013, 13:33

The Inter injury list has actually flipping increased since last time.

Luca Castellazzi
Yuto Nagatomo
Christian Chivu
Walter Samuel
Ibrahima M'baye
Gaby Mudingayi
Walter Gargano
Esteban Cambiasso
Dejan Stankovic
Joel Obi
Fredy Guarin
Rodrigo Palacio
Antonio Cassano
Diego Milito

This is becoming an absolute farce...

Other stupidities of the day;
Inter having sold Coutinho for only 8M to Liverpool. The man was on fire today. Sensational.
Newcastle are really going down the swanny now. At this rate, unbelieveably given how they ended last season, the Championship beckons once again. They risk becoming a yo-yo club at this rate.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 27 Apr 2013, 21:12

Stramala wrote:Newcastle are really going down the swanny now. At this rate, unbelieveably given how they ended last season, the Championship beckons once again. They risk becoming a yo-yo club at this rate.

I'm really wishing that I'd taken the 80-1 bookmakers were offering on them to go down a few weeks ago. I took a look at the fixture list, realised that they had some tough games and was convinced that they would lose the derby (nobody else at work believed that would happen) and then start heading downhill.
They come to Upton Park next week - in theory a nothing game for us, but we are trying to finish in the Top 10 at least.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 28 Apr 2013, 13:11

Stramala wrote:Newcastle are really going down the swanny now. At this rate, unbelieveably given how they ended last season, the Championship beckons once again. They risk becoming a yo-yo club at this rate.

Someone has to replace us as England's yo-yo club, just like we replaced West Brom in that respect.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 28 Apr 2013, 13:36

Stramala wrote:Newcastle are really going down the swanny now. At this rate, unbelieveably given how they ended last season, the Championship beckons once again. They risk becoming a yo-yo club at this rate.

I thought that buying half of the Ligue 1 should have helped them. But a five points gap to a relegation place, with four matches to go doesn't look too good.

Oh, and I'll definitely point my fingers at Loic Remy and laugh at him. He could have gone to Borussia Dortmund, where he might have had some good chances to become Dortmund's lead striker...and he went to a club that is highly likely to get relegated. Talk about poetic justice :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 28 Apr 2013, 13:56

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Javier Zanetti stretchered off against Palermo in the first half. Suspected achilles tendon problem. If he's ruptured it he could be out for months and months

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 28 Apr 2013, 14:06

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Javier Zanetti stretchered off against Palermo in the first half. Suspected achilles tendon problem. If he's ruptured it he could be out for months and months

Ouch, I hope that's not it for his career. Can't be an easy thing to recover from at the age of 39.

Copersucar · Post by **Copersucar** » 28 Apr 2013, 14:10

Marcello Trotta. If anything in football is rejectful, it's that penalty miss.