Silverstone YDT prospective lineup

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 01 Jul 2013, 19:19

Faustus wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:The test is open to the public. Tickes to go on sale soon so contact Silverstone for prices.

Are you sure? So they've changed their mind? Sweet! Definitely up for this one. Anyone else fancy it?

Fifteen quid is all they ask for... and I see nothing that will get in the way of being there.

Bring it on.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jul 2013, 21:12

I would have done if I was not on uni placement again...

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 05 Jul 2013, 19:56

The FIA has relaxed the restrictions on the involvement of the normal race drivers:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108583

Is it fair to say that only the teams that need the money will bother running young drivers?

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 05 Jul 2013, 20:23

Regular drivers will be allowed to run alongside young drivers i'm sure. It's not like the youngsters are out of it. The testing may also be such that it may not make a diffrence wheter it's a young driver or a veteran.

Post by **mario** » 05 Jul 2013, 20:43

Faustus wrote:The FIA has relaxed the restrictions on the involvement of the normal race drivers:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108583

Is it fair to say that only the teams that need the money will bother running young drivers?

By the looks of things, the FIA is only allowing the teams to use their race drivers for one of the three days that the test will take place over - of course, I expect some teams, like McLaren, will use a "young driver" who is effectively a test driver in all but name, but at least they haven't been totally sidelined in the process.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 06 Jul 2013, 07:16

mario wrote:
Faustus wrote:The FIA has relaxed the restrictions on the involvement of the normal race drivers:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108583

Is it fair to say that only the teams that need the money will bother running young drivers?

By the looks of things, the FIA is only allowing the teams to use their race drivers for one of the three days that the test will take place over - of course, I expect some teams, like McLaren, will use a "young driver" who is effectively a test driver in all but name, but at least they haven't been totally sidelined in the process.

The one guaranteed outing Gary Paffett gets in an F1 car each year, cut by one day

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 06 Jul 2013, 07:18

mario wrote:
Faustus wrote:The FIA has relaxed the restrictions on the involvement of the normal race drivers:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108583

Is it fair to say that only the teams that need the money will bother running young drivers?

By the looks of things, the FIA is only allowing the teams to use their race drivers for one of the three days that the test will take place over - of course, I expect some teams, like McLaren, will use a "young driver" who is effectively a test driver in all but name, but at least they haven't been totally sidelined in the process.

If neither one of the McLaren duo (currently 1-2 in WSR) get a run, I promise you, I'm going to buy a missile launcher and align it towards Woking..

In the meantime, I need a few years to complete my college course. It'll feel good if I can get my Bachelors' degree before I go to jail..

Post by **mario** » 06 Jul 2013, 08:09

wsrgo wrote:
mario wrote:
Faustus wrote:The FIA has relaxed the restrictions on the involvement of the normal race drivers:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108583

Is it fair to say that only the teams that need the money will bother running young drivers?

By the looks of things, the FIA is only allowing the teams to use their race drivers for one of the three days that the test will take place over - of course, I expect some teams, like McLaren, will use a "young driver" who is effectively a test driver in all but name, but at least they haven't been totally sidelined in the process.

If neither one of the McLaren duo (currently 1-2 in WSR) get a run, I promise you, I'm going to buy a missile launcher and align it towards Woking..

In the meantime, I need a few years to complete my college course. It'll feel good if I can get my Bachelors' degree before I go to jail..

It might be a little problematic for them as the last day of the test, the 19th, might clash with the start of the race weekend for round 6 of the FR3.5 championship (assuming that they have a Friday practise session). If they tested for the first two days, it should be possible for them to do that and the FR35 event, time depending, but a scheduling problem is not out of the question.

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 06 Jul 2013, 19:36

Jenson saying that if they are only testing tyres he won't be there.

McLaren have plenty of young drivers available besides Vandoorne and Magnussen - Paffett as mentioned above and Oliver Turvey. Given the problems they currently have with the car it makes most sense for Paffett to do the majority of the YDT if Button and Perez limited to one day

DG

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 12 Jul 2013, 10:46

Lotus have announced that Kimi Raikkonen, Davide Valsecchi and Nicolas Prost will participate in the YDT. That's an average age of 30 in the Young Drivers' Test. :shock:

To quote Pablo Elizalde: 'Young driver test' is the most misleading name since 'fat-free'.. :lol:

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 12 Jul 2013, 13:18

Courtesy of Sky F1 News:

Marussia: Tio Ellinas, Wednesday; Rodolfo Gonzalez, Thursday and Friday.
Lotus: Nicolas Prost, Wednesday; Davide Valsecchi, Thursday; Kimi Raikkonen, Friday.
Sauber: Robin Frijns, Wednesday and Thursday morning; Nico Hulkenberg, Thursday afternoon; Kimiya Sato, Friday.

Teams are allowed to run new parts only when a young driver is at the wheel, regular drivers being limited to tyre testing only.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 12 Jul 2013, 21:26

Kimi Sato ftw

(great name)

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 12 Jul 2013, 21:32

Jocke1 wrote:Kimi Sato ftw
(great name)

Japan's national anthem is called "Kimigayo"

watka · Post by **watka** » 14 Jul 2013, 20:25

Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 14 Jul 2013, 20:49

watka wrote:Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

Hello (again), watka, from the newer generation of F1 Rejects people.

Oh, and your F1RWRS driver has moved ownership.

watka · Post by **watka** » 14 Jul 2013, 22:05

FMecha wrote:
watka wrote:Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

Hello (again), watka, from the newer generation of F1 Rejects people. Oh, and your F1RWRS driver has moved ownership.

Yeah, I heard some pretty messed up things happened to my F1RWRS driver. Do what you want with him!

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 15 Jul 2013, 09:15

watka wrote:Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

One Kimi-esque word sums up my response: PERKELE!

Of the three days available, Thursday is the one I'm otherwise occupied. Bah! And bah again!

Anyone going Wednesday or Friday?

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 15 Jul 2013, 10:30

dinizintheoven wrote:
watka wrote:Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

One Kimi-esque word sums up my response: PERKELE!

Of the three days available, Thursday is the one I'm otherwise occupied. Bah! And bah again!

Anyone going Wednesday or Friday?

I can't do thursday either. I'm still trying to go on wednesday but it's not looking too good because of some bastards that have conveniently gone sick at work.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Jul 2013, 10:53

Forgive me if I've missed something, but does anyway have a full confirmed lineup for the test?

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Jul 2013, 11:14

Fiona Leggate's evil twin will be driving the Williams on one of the days. :lol:

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 15 Jul 2013, 11:36

East Londoner wrote:Fiona Leggate's evil twin will be driving the Williams on one of the days.

Juncadella! He should have moved to GP2 rather than DTM after winning F3 Euroseries, but money talks I guess.

watka · Post by **watka** » 15 Jul 2013, 14:08

Faustus wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:
watka wrote:Hi everyone,

Firstly, yes, I am not dead, I've just been away from the forum for a very long time for various reasons. Secondly, I'd very much be interested in going to the YDT on Thursday if anyone else was interested. Faustus, Dinizintheoven; I see you guys were looking into it.

Two words interest me: KIMI RAIKKONEN

One Kimi-esque word sums up my response: PERKELE!

Of the three days available, Thursday is the one I'm otherwise occupied. Bah! And bah again!

Anyone going Wednesday or Friday?

I can't do thursday either. I'm still trying to go on wednesday but it's not looking too good because of some bastards that have conveniently gone sick at work.

I can do Wednesday, its just that Thursday was more preferable. Tbh, the main reason I'm asking is because its a £35 cab journey one-way from Milton Keynes and I'd need to split the cost with someone to justify the trip.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 15 Jul 2013, 14:51

watka wrote:I can do Wednesday, its just that Thursday was more preferable. Tbh, the main reason I'm asking is because its a £35 cab journey one-way from Milton Keynes and I'd need to split the cost with someone to justify the trip.

Forget the taxi. If I go, I'll pick you up from Milton Keynes and I'll drop you off on the way back. My journey takes me up from the M25 onto the M1, so I go right past Milton Keynes. I used to live there anyway. I can pick you up and then we can work out whether it's better to get back on the M1 and come off at J15A and take the A43 through Towcester or cut through the A5 and then get on the A43. It's been a while but it'll come back to me.
I'm trying to sort something out with work. I might be able to do thursday, but as it stands wednesday would be better for me.
watka, you have a PM.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 15 Jul 2013, 15:48

Hmmm. I'd be driving down as well, though I'd be coming from the north rather than through the concrete jungle that is Milton Keynes. However, I could divert if Faustus can't make it...

There will be tickets on the door, right? I mean, it's not going to sell out like the Grand Prix weekend...

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 15 Jul 2013, 16:08

dinizintheoven wrote:Hmmm. I'd be driving down as well, though I'd be coming from the north rather than through the concrete jungle that is Milton Keynes. However, I could divert if Faustus can't make it...

There will be tickets on the door, right? I mean, it's not going to sell out like the Grand Prix weekend...

Good point. It's worth checking if there are tickets available at the gate.

EDIT - just got off the phone with Silverstone (and some woman named Haley) and tickets will be available at the gate but they'll be more expensive. She wasn't sure by how much, but I'd say probably £20 instead of £15.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 15 Jul 2013, 16:14

dinizintheoven wrote:Hmmm. I'd be driving down as well, though I'd be coming from the north rather than through the concrete jungle that is Milton Keynes. However, I could divert if Faustus can't make it...

There will be tickets on the door, right? I mean, it's not going to sell out like the Grand Prix weekend...

If you are definitely going, then we should meet up.
You have a PM.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 15 Jul 2013, 16:32

I won't be too hard to spot. Look on the F1RMGP threads in the Perry McCarthy 18 Metre Debut forum. I look like Þorvaldur Einarsson's older brother.

Post by **tommykl** » 16 Jul 2013, 07:38

McLaren have chosen Oliver Turvey, Kevin Magnussen and...wait for it...Gary Paffett

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 16 Jul 2013, 09:23

Red Bull have announced their lineup for the three days at Silverstone:

António Félix da Costa – Weds & Thursday AM
Carlos Sainz Junior – Fri AM
Daniel Ricciardo – Weds PM
Mark Webber – Thurs PM
Sebastian Vettel – Fri PM

I think the really interesting thing to note is da Costa, Sainz and Ricciardo are all getting Red Bull seat time while Vergne isn't.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Jul 2013, 09:28

Oh Dear look who's going to be behind the wheel of a Toro Rosso

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/16/c ... t-chances/

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Jul 2013, 09:44

tommykl wrote:McLaren have chosen Oliver Turvey, Kevin Magnussen and...wait for it...Gary Paffett

Ah, so the YDT will become the annual "raise Gary Paffett's hopes of getting an F1 seat" day. :lol:

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Oh Dear look who's going to be behind the wheel of a Toro Rosso

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/07/16/c ... t-chances/

Nice to see Calado getting some track time with Force India. Have Caterham announced who will be running for them, because if they put Canamasas in the car, well let's just say some teams might be footing a large repair bill...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 16 Jul 2013, 21:05

Wish I were going, if only to see Miss Stoddart on the Friday... :roll:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 16 Jul 2013, 21:09

dr-baker wrote:Wish I were going, if only to see Cecotto wipe everyone out on the Friday...

Fixed

watka · Post by **watka** » 16 Jul 2013, 23:12

I've just seen the Cecotto pile up at Monaco. I honestly don't see how it was all his fault, Ceccon hitting the back of Bird caused the incident by my books.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 17 Jul 2013, 00:13

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Wish I were going, if only to see Cecotto wipe everyone out on the Friday...

Fixed

That didn't need fixing. Any other poster and it would have.

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 17 Jul 2013, 03:44

Red Bull test line-up:
Wednesday - Antonio Felix da Costa (morning), Daniel Ricciardo (afternoon)
Thursday - Antonio Felix da Costa (morning), Mark Webber (afternoon)
Friday - Carlos Sainz Jr. (morning), Sebastian Vettel (afternoon).

Toro Rosso test line-up:
Wednesday - Johnny Cecotto
Thursday - Carlos Sainz Jr. (morning), Daniel Ricciardo (afternoon)
Friday - Jean-Eric Vergne (morning), Daniil Kvyat (afternoon).

Not that i'm complaining and it's obvious why Red Bull would want to give Ricciardo a run in the big sister car. A bit odd to have a regular driver appear for two teams though. And poor Vergne. His 6th in Canada is a distant memory. Nevermind Lewis' tyre failure, Vergne is the biggest loser of that race. And no fault of his own either.

edit
Caterham test line-up:
Wednesday - Alexander Rossi
Thursday - Will Stevens
Friday - Giedo van der Garde/Charles Pic.

Ferrari:
Davide Rigon, Felipe Massa

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 17 Jul 2013, 06:25

To Silverstone we ride with HWNSNBM by our side, we are strong, and not afraid to die! (Because Cecotto isn't driving today...)

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jul 2013, 06:50

Is there a live ticker or live timing for the test?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 17 Jul 2013, 20:35

We came. We saw (rejects and top teams alike). We conquered (the paddock).

Autosport posted the lap times; Kevin Magnussen was one we noticed pounding round the track seemingly non-stop, and that's as expected as McLaren need all the testing time they can get with that heap of junk they've built this year. It also looked like Alexander Rossi was out there for a lot of the day, but he only managed 69 laps. Odd. Williams barely put a wheel on the track in the morning, but made up for it in the afternoon; at least the Autosport report shows why Max "Talent Talent Talent" Chilton didn't appear until very late in the day (and I timed both drivers for a lap and found Tio Ellinas two seconds faster). I wasn't expecting the Glass Of Milk to be driving today; the report shows he did, and I'd also thought today was Daniel Ricciardo's official audition to be Vettel's obedient lackey at Red Bull next year; according to Autosport, he didn't.

So, as for the times:

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Pos  Driver                  Team            Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Kevin Magnussen         McLaren         1m33.602s            100
 2.  Paul di Resta           Force India     1m33.774s  +0.172s   58
 3.  Antonio Felix da Costa  Red Bull        1m33.821s  +0.219s   82
 4.  James Calado            Force India     1m33.986s  +0.384s   27
 5.  Daniel Juncadella       Williams        1m34.098s  +0.496s   55
 6.  Johnny Cecotto          Toro Rosso      1m34.193s  +0.591s   75
 7.  Robin Frijns            Sauber          1m34.236s  +0.634s   72
 8.  Nicolas Prost           Lotus           1m34.810s  +1.208s   72
 9.  Davide Rigon            Ferrari         1m34.874s  +1.272s   76
10.  Alexander Rossi         Caterham        1m35.651s  +2.049s   69
11.  Tio Ellinas             Marussia        1m36.676s  +3.074s   36
12.  Max Chilton             Marussia        1m38.347s  +4.745s   27

Paddock access afterwards was an extra tenner, but I'd say it was worth it to get up close and personal with a car once thrashed and crashed by Karun Chandhok, but only after Jarno Trulli had moaned about its power steering one too many times. There should be an interesting game of "what car is that actually?" coming up when I've done something with the photos; Force India's showcar is made from bits of two of their previous models, at least...

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 17 Jul 2013, 20:54

dinizintheoven wrote:So, as for the times:

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Pos  Driver                  Team            Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Kevin Magnussen         McLaren         1m33.602s            100
 2.  Paul di Resta           Force India     1m33.774s  +0.172s   58
 3.  Antonio Felix da Costa  Red Bull        1m33.821s  +0.219s   82
 4.  James Calado            Force India     1m33.986s  +0.384s   27
 5.  Daniel Juncadella       Williams        1m34.098s  +0.496s   55
 6.  Johnny Cecotto          Toro Rosso      1m34.193s  +0.591s   75
 7.  Robin Frijns            Sauber          1m34.236s  +0.634s   72
 8.  Nicolas Prost           Lotus           1m34.810s  +1.208s   72
 9.  Davide Rigon            Ferrari         1m34.874s  +1.272s   76
10.  Alexander Rossi         Caterham        1m35.651s  +2.049s   69
11.  Tio Ellinas             Marussia        1m36.676s  +3.074s   36
12.  Max Chilton             Marussia        1m38.347s  +4.745s   27

Oh dear unless he had a problem, Talent Chilton was miles slower than his teammate for the day, the current GP3 championship leader. Nice that James Calado is just two tenths slower than Paul di Resta in the Force India.