F1 Alternativ: season 1990

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 31 Jul 2013, 19:58

ok, if working on engine doesn't have an effect, then we'll work on front wing.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 31 Jul 2013, 20:04

pycku wrote:ok, if working on engine doesn't have an effect, then we'll work on front wing.

Ok.
PS: @Osella, Benneton and Dallara. Please submit you testing focus for preseason testing at Jerez until 1st August 18:00 EEST Or you will run the testing sessions without any effort!!!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 31 Jul 2013, 20:22

Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Floor - Adjustable Front Wing

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Front Wing
Car3: Suspension - Adjustable Front Wing

It was already posted before, but seems you needed the specific car and work, oh well...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 31 Jul 2013, 20:44

SeedStriker wrote:Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Floor - Adjustable Front Wing

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Front Wing
Car3: Suspension - Adjustable Front Wing

It was already posted before, but seems you needed the specific car and work, oh well...

You can only work on one part with each car.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 31 Jul 2013, 21:30

Silverstone
Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Floor

Jerez
Car 1: Electrical systems
Car 2: Electrical systems
Car 3: Electrical systems

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 31 Jul 2013, 21:36

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Silverstone
Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Floor

Jerez
Car 1: Electrical systems
Car 2: Electrical systems
Car 3: Electrical systems

Ahem, read the rules or Phoenix's quote above.

Post by **Ataxia** » 31 Jul 2013, 21:47

good_Ralf wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Silverstone
Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Floor

Jerez
Car 1: Electrical systems
Car 2: Electrical systems
Car 3: Electrical systems

Ahem, read the rules or Phoenix's quote above.

There's nothing wrong with takagi's choices. He's entitled to test the same thing on multiple cars if he chooses to.

Phoenix is referring to the fact SeedStriker has two points of focus on one car.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 31 Jul 2013, 21:52

Phoenix wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Floor - Adjustable Front Wing

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Front Wing
Car3: Suspension - Adjustable Front Wing

It was already posted before, but seems you needed the specific car and work, oh well...

You can only work on one part with each car.

Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Cooling System

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Suspension
Car3: Cooling System

Tech: Adjustable Front Wing

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 31 Jul 2013, 21:55

SeedStriker wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Floor - Adjustable Front Wing

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Front Wing
Car3: Suspension - Adjustable Front Wing

It was already posted before, but seems you needed the specific car and work, oh well...

You can only work on one part with each car.

Location: Paul Ricard
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Cooling System

Location: Jerez
Car1: Suspension
Car2: Suspension
Car3: Cooling System

Tech: Adjustable Front Wing

It's right now, but the Adjustable Front Wing will need testing bevore you can use it! So at the moment it won't give any effort!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 31 Jul 2013, 22:04

Hermann95 wrote:It's right now, but the Adjustable Front Wing will need testing bevore you can use it! So at the moment it won't give any effort!

Since you said that the techs should be payed first, kinda wanted to reserve it

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 31 Jul 2013, 23:00

Osella's Imola testing

Car 1: Rear Wing
Car 2: Suspension
Car 3: Suspension

Osella's Jerez Testing
Car 1: Gearbox
Car 2: Front Wing
Car 3: Gearbox

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 31 Jul 2013, 23:16

SeedStriker wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:It's right now, but the Adjustable Front Wing will need testing bevore you can use it! So at the moment it won't give any effort!

Since you said that the techs should be payed first, kinda wanted to reserve it

You'll pay it the day you first test it, because this would make things easier for me!(Maybe i sould have mentioned this before!

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 01 Aug 2013, 19:17

Pre-Season Testing: Jerez

Williams

Front Wing succesful
Gearbox not succesful

Osella

Gearbox not succesful
Front Wing not succesful

Benneton

Electrical System succesful

Mclaren

Sequential Gearbox system didn't work!

Larrousse

Gearbox succesful
Airbox not succesful

Dallara

Suspension succesful
Cooling System succesful

Time table

1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.718
2 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.912
3 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:26.351
4 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:26.352
5 Bernd Scheider (Meclaren-Honda(T)) 1:26.440
6 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:26.651
7 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Renault(T)) 1:26.791
8 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ford(T)) 1:26.812
9 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:26.981
10 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:27.699
11 Johnny Herbert (Larrouse-Ford(T)) 1:28.048
12 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:28.055
13 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:28.663
14 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:28.737
15 Gary Brabham (Dallara-Lamborghini(T)) 1:28.893
16 Thomas Danielsson (Osella-Ford(T)) 1:29.770
17 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:29.788
18 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:30.230

EDIT: correctect

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 01 Aug 2013, 20:38

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Silverstone
Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Floor

Jerez
Car 1: Electrical systems
Car 2: Electrical systems
Car 3: Electrical systems

I presume you missed this post from yesterday evening then?

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 01 Aug 2013, 21:58

Minardi will focus on the following.

Imola
Car 1 Front Wing
Car 2 Rear Wing
Car 3 Floor

Silverstone
Car 1 Suspension
Car 2 Steering System
Car 3 Cooling System

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 02 Aug 2013, 07:13

At least the gearbox worked.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Aug 2013, 13:25

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Silverstone
Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Floor

Jerez
Car 1: Electrical systems
Car 2: Electrical systems
Car 3: Electrical systems

I presume you missed this post from yesterday evening then?

Sorry!! Correctet!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 02 Aug 2013, 15:28

Ron Dennis wrote:Someone get me Barnard at the phone!

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 02 Aug 2013, 15:35

Ron Dennis wrote:Someone get me Barnard at the phone!

Big Flav wrote:Today we have Barnard. Barnard is ours. Go away and get another!

It would appear I need to work on my Flav speak

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 02 Aug 2013, 15:39

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
Ron Dennis wrote:Someone get me Barnard at the phone!

Big Flav wrote:Today we have Barnard. Barnard is ours. Go away and get another!

It would appear I need to work on my Flav speak

Eric Bernard wrote:Oui, c'est Eric Bernard. Est-ce que je peux fair quelque chose pour vous, monsieur Dennis?

seems I've forgot to write in French

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 02 Aug 2013, 18:23

Warwick will test suspension at Imola, Moreno and Comas will concentrate on rear wing.

The Lukas · Post by **The Lukas** » 02 Aug 2013, 18:40

Coloni will offer Andrea Montermini to second driver role

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Aug 2013, 19:57

The Lukas wrote:Coloni will offer Andrea Montermini to second driver role

how much would you like to pay?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Aug 2013, 20:25

Pre-Season Testing: Le Castellet

Tyrell

Steering System not succesful
Gearbox succesful
Cooling System not succesful

Arrows

Front Wing not succesful
Gearbox not succesful

AGS

Gearbox not succesful
Floor not succesful
Cooling System not succesful

Dallara

Floor not succesful
Cooling System succesful

Ligier

Airbox succesful
Front Wing succesful

Time Table

1 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:06.970
2 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:07.034
3 Eddie Irvine (Tyrell-Renault(T)) 1:07.200
4 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:07.345
5 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford(T)) 1:07.421
6 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:07.868
7 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:08.192
8 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:08.414
9 Erik Comas (Ligier-Ford(T)) 1:08.420
10 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:08.588
11 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:08.682
12 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:08.721
13 Gary Brabham (Dallara-Lamborghini(T)) 1:08.886
14 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:09.036
15 Emmanuel Collard (AGS-Lamborghini(T)) 1:09.080

PS: Still need both pre-season testing locations from Lotus! And the second location from Onyx and Coloni!

Next Pre-seaon tests
3th August Silverstone deadline 20:00 EEST
4th August Hockenheim deadline 18:00 EEST
5th August Imola deadline 18:00 EEST

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 02 Aug 2013, 20:57

This was a concert of fail upgrades! The battle for the middle tier will be ferocious

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Aug 2013, 21:49

SeedStriker wrote:This was a concert of fail upgrades! The battle for the middle tier will be ferocious

Yeah, only 3 out of 12 upgrades worked! The middfield battles will be very hard! Also the fights for the lowe points(5th and 6th place) will be hard if some of the top teams fail(and they will fail! :lol:

)

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 02 Aug 2013, 21:58

Tyrrell are happy with their testing results and at least something was succesfull hopefully we can take the fight to the top three teams

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Aug 2013, 08:03

Nothing seems to be working as planned, we hope next test is where we get our new technology upgrades working. Our designed raised nose cone seems not to be working, so for now we will not concentrate anymore on revolutionary design solutions.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 03 Aug 2013, 11:54

peteroli34 wrote:Tyrrell are happy with their testing results and at least something was succesfull hopefully we can take the fight to the top three teams

Big Flav is happy Ken think Benetton top 3 Formula 1 team

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 03 Aug 2013, 12:11

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
peteroli34 wrote:Tyrrell are happy with their testing results and at least something was succesfull hopefully we can take the fight to the top three teams

Big Flav is happy Ken think Benetton top 3 Formula 1 team

When we say the top 3 teams we actually mean the top 4 teams

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 03 Aug 2013, 13:19

Lotus will test at Silverstone and Imola

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 03 Aug 2013, 22:37

Pre-Season testing: Silverstone

Tyrell

Suspension succesful
Front Wing succesful
Rear Wing not succesful

Williams

Rear Wing succesful
Gearbox succesful

Brabham

Cooling System not succesful
Gearbox succesful
Electrical System not succesful

Arrows

Active Suspension System didn't work!

Benneton

Floor succesful

Minardi

Suspension not succesful
Steering System succesful

Onyx

Front Wing succesful
Rear Wing not succesful

Lotus

Rear Wing succesful
Front Wing succesful

Time Table

1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:13.091
2 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:13.094
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Renault(T)) 1:13.135
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:13.359
5 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:13.408
6 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ford(T)) 1:13.483
7 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:13.784
8 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:13.807
9 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:13.813
10 Eddie Irvine (Tyrell-Renault(T)) 1:14.044
11 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford(T)) 1:14.071
12 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:14.273
13 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:14.456
14 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:14.579
15 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:14.732
16 Aguri Suzuki (Brabham-Ford(T)) 1:14.736
17 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:14.754
18 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:14.774
19 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:14.829
20 Claudio Langes (Lotus-Judd(T)) 1:15.115
21 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:15.127
22 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:15.820

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 03 Aug 2013, 23:04

Big Flav happy car upgrade work, yes?

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 04 Aug 2013, 01:12

Damn, all my upgrades did not work!!! :@

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 04 Aug 2013, 11:29

pycku wrote:Damn, all my upgrades did not work!!! :@

Thats right but the active suspension needs very much testing! So you have to test it during the season in order to get it work!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Aug 2013, 14:47

Hermann95 wrote:
pycku wrote:Damn, all my upgrades did not work!!! :@

Thats right but the active suspension needs very much testing! So you have to test it during the season in order to get it work!

I guess it's the same with the sequential gearbox, isn't it?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 04 Aug 2013, 15:29

Phoenix wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:
pycku wrote:Damn, all my upgrades did not work!!! :@

Thats right but the active suspension needs very much testing! So you have to test it during the season in order to get it work!

I guess it's the same with the sequential gearbox, isn't it?

Yeah, this high technical upgrades take a long time to develop! But they are powerful and you can use them next season aswell(if not banned).
And the more technical an upgrade is the longer it could take...so active suspension and sequential gearboxes take normally longer than an adjustable front wing.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 04 Aug 2013, 15:58

Does that mean that I have to pay 4.5 mln every time to test it or just 500 k ?

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:12

Dammit, I didn't know about this. I'll have to wait for 1991

As FantometteBR has requested Jordan, would I be able to take the Modena team for 1991?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 04 Aug 2013, 17:09

FullMetalJack wrote:Dammit, I didn't know about this. I'll have to wait for 1991

As FantometteBR has requested Jordan, would I be able to take the Modena team for 1991?

You can still request Jordan because FantometteBr is in with Osella in this season!
If you like i will sign you up with Jordan for the next season!