Another wiki!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Aug 2013, 18:25

I think we just need to make a template that's more flexible. One where rows can be left out at will and not mess up the template. Because I'm sick of these long templates with all the boring stats I don't really care about particularly much. If there was one template that could be copied and pasted, that had everything needed in it, but could be removed without a problem, that'd be just great...

We need a discussion, not a vote. I don't care what the vote is, we're not doing it, because this isn't a simple case of A B or C. We come to a proper solution, not a cookie cutter solution. Which is what we'll get with such simplistic decision making.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 15 Aug 2013, 18:32

Stramala wrote:I think we just need to make a template that's more flexible. One where rows can be left out at will and not mess up the template. Because I'm sick of these long templates with all the boring stats I don't really care about particularly much. If there was one template that could be copied and pasted, that had everything needed in it, but could be removed without a problem, that'd be just great...

We need a discussion, not a vote. I don't care what the vote is, we're not doing it, because this isn't a simple case of A B or C. We come to a proper solution, not a cookie cutter solution. Which is what we'll get with such simplistic decision making.

No one said that the vote HAD to be acted on...

I published the vote to get a view of what people want. But if people want a discussion, I can call off the vote.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 15 Aug 2013, 22:34

1. Number 3 cause I reckon that shows the Canon drivers but number 5 for non-canon

2. Yes cause it will help which person is owned by which driver

3. Yes/No. Yes cause it will remove a lot of red links but no cause there will be too many stub pages. So I am saying top 10 from each series get a page compously

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 16 Aug 2013, 02:44

1. I prefer Cynon's, mostly because we can put a whole heap of different series in. If any of the others can do that and look slightly better, then that'd be perfect.
2. Yes, although it could also go on the talk page.
3. Yes, most definitely. Even if it's just an age and nationality.

Post by **Ataxia** » 16 Aug 2013, 13:00

By the way, Pasta...you have mail.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 19 Aug 2013, 00:24

Klon wrote:Furthermore, one thing I was thinking about: on Wookiepedia, non-canon sections are specifically marked. Maybe we should introduce that to our wiki as well as to allow description of a driver's work in non-canon serieses without posing issues with canon.

I thought this was a good idea and tried something like it with my team's page.

Thoughts?

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 22 Aug 2013, 06:30

I have now got the col-4 working for this wiki.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Aug 2013, 06:31

Matt121 wrote:I have now got the col-4 working for this wiki.

For those poor illiterate souls like myself, just what exactly is col-4?

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 22 Aug 2013, 06:38

Wizzie wrote:
Matt121 wrote:I have now got the col-4 working for this wiki.

For those poor illiterate souls like myself, just what exactly is col-4?

It is where you could put some results and have it on a horizontal row.

This is an example
http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/2 ... f_Malaysia

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Aug 2013, 21:53

Is there any way i'm going to be able to get editing permissions on the wiki? If so, how would I be able to get them? Username on the wiki is FullMetalJack same as here if that helps.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Aug 2013, 21:54

FullMetalJack wrote:Is there any way i'm going to be able to get editing permissions on the wiki? If so, how would I be able to get them? Username on the wiki is FullMetalJack same as here if that helps.

We'll get Aerospeed on the case as soon as possible. Users have to be approved by him first, as editing rights had to be restricted after a string of spammer attacks.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Aug 2013, 22:20

Wizzie wrote:
FullMetalJack wrote:Is there any way i'm going to be able to get editing permissions on the wiki? If so, how would I be able to get them? Username on the wiki is FullMetalJack same as here if that helps.

We'll get Aerospeed on the case as soon as possible. Users have to be approved by him first, as editing rights had to be restricted after a string of spammer attacks.

Understandable. I don't need permission this very second.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 22 Aug 2013, 23:01

FullMetalJack wrote:Is there any way i'm going to be able to get editing permissions on the wiki? If so, how would I be able to get them? Username on the wiki is FullMetalJack same as here if that helps.

All that anyone needs to do is ask and also send in their username as well. It's been confirmed now.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Aug 2013, 23:05

Aerospeed wrote:
FullMetalJack wrote:Is there any way i'm going to be able to get editing permissions on the wiki? If so, how would I be able to get them? Username on the wiki is FullMetalJack same as here if that helps.

All that anyone needs to do is ask and also send in their username as well. It's been confirmed now.

Cheers mate, I appreciate it.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 03 Sep 2013, 00:06

Pasta, I know you're changing the results to fit the F1 canon, which is great, but when you do it, can do two things? First, keep the original results somewhere like the talk page, and second, fix the stats at the top of the page. I was about to add Davies' 2005 season stats when I noticed you changed his 2004 results as well, and I can't be bothered going back to see what you did.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Sep 2013, 00:17

the Masked Lapwing wrote:...and I can't be bothered going back to see what you did.

There is the real problem then!

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 05 Sep 2013, 18:11

Do I need to ask for editing rights? Username is Warren Hughes, as here.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 05 Sep 2013, 18:57

Warren Hughes wrote:Do I need to ask for editing rights? Username is Warren Hughes, as here.

I think you've already been given editing rights, as far as I know.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 05 Sep 2013, 18:59

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Pasta, I know you're changing the results to fit the F1 canon, which is great, but when you do it, can do two things? First, keep the original results somewhere like the talk page, and second, fix the stats at the top of the page. I was about to add Davies' 2005 season stats when I noticed you changed his 2004 results as well, and I can't be bothered going back to see what you did.

I've added Davies' non-canon F1 results to his talk page, and I've also done the same for the Mad Uncle's Melrose-difficult results

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 06 Sep 2013, 19:46

If anyone is interested in tackling the monster "2013 Pro Cycling" wiki, I can provide my points standings spreadsheet, It details who scored points and in which tour/event.

Sadly I don't have data on who entered where (besides the points scorers).

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 20 Sep 2013, 13:18

Can anyone tell me why the team names in the standings aren't aligning to the left for me here?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 20 Sep 2013, 14:31

AustralianStig wrote:Can anyone tell me why the team names in the standings aren't aligning to the left for me here?

The character '!' At the start of the line automatically centres and bolds the text and creates a grey background. With it you can't align the text left or right.

Use '|' instead and you should be fine

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 21 Sep 2013, 02:28

Thanks pasta! Not even sure why I was doing the ! character now I think about it...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Sep 2013, 23:52

Version 2.1 of the wiki homepage is online in prototype form for your consideration and feedback! It's a small update to the big overhaul a month or two back.

Main changes are;

Former three boxes for series combined into one scrolling list
Series tables given clearly defined borders, and colouring to differentiate between canon and non-canon
Scrolling box added to news section to allow for more stories to be listed simultaneously
Video highlights from RWRS canon events added to foot of page

Anything else you think should be added/removed, please say so now, it'll probably be the last time I do any major work to the page for several months. Speak now or forever hold your peace

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 21 Sep 2013, 23:55

I actually don't mind it

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Sep 2013, 00:02

Stramala wrote:Version 2.1 of the wiki homepage is online in prototype form for your consideration and feedback! It's a small update to the big overhaul a month or two back.

Main changes are;

Former three boxes for series combined into one scrolling list
Series tables given clearly defined borders, and colouring to differentiate between canon and non-canon
Scrolling box added to news section to allow for more stories to be listed simultaneously
Video highlights from RWRS canon events added to foot of page

Anything else you think should be added/removed, please say so now, it'll probably be the last time I do any major work to the page for several months. Speak now or forever hold your peace

The wiki definitely looks better now, thanks for putting in the effort Stramala

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The only thing I can think of is the F1, F2 and F3 RWRS box and the other series boxes to be merged. This could give a little more space for something else, and then all series would be in on place. At the moment, it looks like F1/F2/F3 RWRS are separate to every other series. Just a suggestion.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Sep 2013, 00:09

pasta_maldonado wrote:The only thing I can think of is the F1, F2 and F3 RWRS box and the other series boxes to be merged. This could give a little more space for something else, and then all series would be in on place. At the moment, it looks like F1/F2/F3 RWRS are separate to every other series. Just a suggestion.

This has always been the case however, and a deliberate design feature. I don't believe we need space for anything else in that area, the RWRS is a focal point for F1 Alternate so deserves to be up there on its own. I don't believe there is any need for this to change.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 22 Sep 2013, 12:56

Very very good work Stramala, that front page is looking mighty now, particularly with the video highlights and the individual series logos. I would say that's looking pretty optimal now!

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 05 Oct 2013, 22:35

We got a mention of the ShoutWiki facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/ShoutWiki

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 06 Oct 2013, 02:16

HawkAussie wrote:We got a mention of the ShoutWiki facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/ShoutWiki

We all instantly deserve Wikipedia articles!

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 08 Oct 2013, 13:00

Be wary when editing the wiki at the moment - they are doing maintenance and every now and then you'll get errors.

I just lost a HUGE amount that I did for Formula Community...

Needless to say, back up the code in notepad or something before you preview/submit!

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 19 Oct 2013, 23:03

So do we want another wiki to make it a alternate wiki with the real results.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 Oct 2013, 23:13

HawkAussie wrote:So do we want another wiki to make it a alternate wiki with the real results.

I'll just assume that meant party at yours, 7 pm.

Bring a bottle guys, dont be disrespectful.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 20 Oct 2013, 04:35

pasta_maldonado wrote:
HawkAussie wrote:So do we want another wiki to make it a alternate wiki with the real results.

I'll just assume that meant party at yours, 7 pm.

Bring a bottle guys, dont be disrespectful.

Ha Ha, I mean real results that do feature our drivers and teams

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 21 Oct 2013, 04:10

Now it's getting 502 Bad Gateway errors.

IMO we should re-open the old wiki and use it as a back-up wiki for when the main one goes down.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Oct 2013, 11:34

This is all very bizarre considering that I'm not getting any of these errors.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 01 Nov 2013, 15:11

If some kind soul could do a basic Wiki page for my championship, I'll love you eternally

I would, but the wiki formatting is a mix of gibberish and double-dutch to me...

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 01 Nov 2013, 15:31

takagi_for_the_win wrote:If some kind soul could do a basic Wiki page for my championship, I'll love you eternally I would, but the wiki formatting is a mix of gibberish and double-dutch to me...

I made a basic table, with teams, engines etc. You only need to add the drivers.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 01 Nov 2013, 16:05

takagi_for_the_win wrote:If some kind soul could do a basic Wiki page for my championship, I'll love you eternally I would, but the wiki formatting is a mix of gibberish and double-dutch to me...

This okay?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 01 Nov 2013, 18:10

takagi_for_the_win wrote:If some kind soul could do a basic Wiki page for my championship, I'll love you eternally I would, but the wiki formatting is a mix of gibberish and double-dutch to me...

pi314159 wrote:I made a basic table, with teams, engines etc. You only need to add the drivers.

Salamander wrote:This okay?

Guys, try not to make duplicates of existing pages.

Seeing as Salamander's version is more complete, a wiki admin should delete this page asap.

I am also going to start work on a third revision for the wiki homepage, mostly involving removing the poll function. It's a little bit pointless, and destroys the fluid layout when viewed on a smaller resolution or 4:3 aspect monitor.