1979 Virtual F1 - Watkins Glen race up

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 30 Oct 2013, 08:25

pycku wrote:Also as the World Constructor Champions, we would like some other number and we think 9 and 10 are what we need. So if March disappears, we would like to get these numbers (and if it is possible - from the beginning of 1979 season).

We can easily get that organised for you. If March get new owners as well, there's nothing stopping you and whoever takes over March to come to an agreement and swap numbers.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 08:27

Derek Daly has 120 000 credits to spend, and buys 4 races at Boro

Piero Necchi has only 20 000 credits to spend, and would like to ask Boro if that's enough for a single race.

Alberto Colombo has only 10 000 credits to spend, and would like to ask Boro if that's enough for a single race.

Ricardo Zunino has 40 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro, and has 10 000 credtis remaining.

Beppe Gabbiani has 50 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro, and has 20 000 credtis remaining.

Roberto Marazzi has 50 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro, and has 20 000 credtis remaining.

Teo Fabi has 80 000 credits, and buys two races at Boro, and has 20 000 credtis remaining.

Miguel Angel Guerra has 70 000 credits, and buys two races at Boro, and has 10 000 credtis remaining.

Juan Maria Traverso has only 20 000 credits to spend, and would like to ask Boro if that's enough for a single race.

Huub Rothengatter has 60 000 credits, and buys two races at Boro

Andrea de Cesaris has 120 000 credits to spend, and buys 4 races at Boro

Jan Lammers has 80 000 credits, and buys two races at Boro, and has 20 000 credtis remaining.

Michael Bleekemolen has 30 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro

Arie Luyendyk has 60 000 credits, and buys two races at Boro

Satoru Nakajima has 140 000 credits, and buys four races at Boro, and has 20 000 credtis remaining.

Keiji Matsumoto has 30 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro

Albert Poon has 40 000 credits, and buys one race at Boro, and has 10 000 credtis remaining.

Eliseo Salazar has 130 000 credits, and buys four races at Boro, and has 10 000 credtis remaining.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 08:29

Wizzie wrote:
pycku wrote:Also as the World Constructor Champions, we would like some other number and we think 9 and 10 are what we need. So if March disappears, we would like to get these numbers (and if it is possible - from the beginning of 1979 season).

We can easily get that organised for you. If March get new owners as well, there's nothing stopping you and whoever takes over March to come to an agreement and swap numbers.

You can have 9 and 10 now. If March find a new owner, they'll get 38 and 39.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 08:34

roblomas52 wrote:Wolf would like to put a 250K, 2 year contract on the table for Jacky Ickx and if that fails, Marc Suer on a 200K contract for 2 years.
We would also like to offer a 60K contract for Nigel Mansell to be the teams test driver.

Regarding sponsors, is it possible to do a deal with the Saudi state oil company?

Marc Surer is already under contract, there are no official test drivers in this series, and a list of sponsors can be found in the first post of the thread. The offer for Ickx is ok though.

Also, Engine Manufacturers can start developing their engines now: Please decide on aspiration (Turbo or N-A). Turbos have more power, normally aspirated ones have a better reliability. You can start developing in the following three areas: Power, Fuel Consumption and Reliability. Please spend money in multiples of 100 000.

You can negotiate the contracts however you want, but when you have a result, post it on the thread.

Ferrarist, Ilmor didn't exist until 1983, so there's no way I let them into the series. You can have Hart as an alternative.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:07

Is is possible that one engine manufacturer start developing of two engines (turbo and a N-A) ones?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:11

pycku wrote:Is is possible that one engine manufacturer start developing of two engines (turbo and a N-A) ones?

No, that's not possible, simply because I don't recommend it. You'd have to split you budget between the two engines, and none of them would be competetive.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:14

pi314159 wrote:
pycku wrote:Is is possible that one engine manufacturer start developing of two engines (turbo and a N-A) ones?

No, that's not possible, simply because I don't recommend it. You'd have to split you budget between the two engines, and none of them would be competetive.

Do I need a second driver, If I do I will offer Vittorio Brambilla 50k to drive for me.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:16

And how much does it cost to produce engines for a single team, or this expense will not be included in the game? I need this information so that I put a price on engines.

Also should I invest all the money I have now, or I can invest in engine upgrades during the season? If I can make upgrades - at what frequency and will there be any delay from starting the upgrade until the new engine is ready?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:17

andrew wrote:
Do I need a second driver, If I do I will offer Vittorio Brambilla 50k to drive for me.

You can decide to run only one driver if you want. Brambilla has already announced his retirement from F1, so you'd need someone else.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:18

pi314159 wrote:
andrew wrote:
Do I need a second driver, If I do I will offer Vittorio Brambilla 50k to drive for me.

You can decide to run only one driver if you want. Brambilla has already announced his retirement from F1, so you'd need someone else.

I will run one car for now.

Post by **kevinbotz** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:20

Is it too late to revise my Tier 2 sponsor arrangements?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:25

March's plans
Drivers in order of preference
Jacky Ickx 270,000£, 2 years
Danny Ongais 190,000£, 2 years
Gijs van Lennep £160,000, 2 years
Henri Pescarolo £150,000, 1 year
Piercarlo Ghinzani 130,000£, 1 year
Tiff Needell 90,000£, 1 year

Sponsors, tier 2
1. First National City Bank
2. Castrol
3. Marlboro
4. Villinger
5. Löwenbräu
6. Titbits
7. Arawak
8. Carta Blanca
9. Candy
10. Olympus
11. Silver Match

Sponsors, tier 3
1. Castrol (if tier 2 deal fails)
2. Norev
3. Personal
4. Hotel Freeport
5. Champion
6. Air Press
7. Europcar
8. Ferodo
9. Rodacciai
10. Koni

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:27

pycku wrote:And how much does it cost to produce engines for a single team, or this expense will not be included in the game? I need this information so that I put a price on engines.

Also should I invest all the money I have now, or I can invest in engine upgrades during the season? If I can make upgrades - at what frequency and will there be any delay from starting the upgrade until the new engine is ready?

Interesting questions. Manufacturing costs for engines for 1 car are 1/20th of the developments costs. So if you spend 3 000 000 on development, it will cost 150 000 to manufacture the engine. If you develop upgrades, you have to pay 1/20th of the development to upgrade the existing engines, but only for those teams who switch to the new spec.

So an engine contract could look like this:

Basic price: 400 000 per year and car
+15% of the upgrade price per car, if the team wants to run the new spec.

Post by **kevinbotz** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:40

Shadow Driver and Sponsor Negotiations-Revised, 1979

Drivers

1. Jacky Ickx, 350,000, 2-year contract.
2. Eddie Cheever, 300,000, 2-year contract.
3. Stefan Johansson, 250,000, 2-year contract.

Sponsor Negotiations

Listed by order of priority. All Tier 2 negotiations take precedence over Tier 3 negotiations. Optimal sponsor configuration is (Tier 2 x 5, Tier 3 x 0).

Tier 2 Sponsors

Tier 3 sponsors

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 09:48

pi314159 wrote:Interesting questions. Manufacturing costs for engines for 1 car are 1/10th of the developments costs. So if you spend 3 000 000 on development, it will cost 300 000 to manufacture the engine. If you develop upgrades, you have to pay 1/10th of the development to upgrade the existing engines, but only for those teams who switch to the new spec.

So an engine contract could look like this:

Basic price: 400 000 per year and car
+15% of the upgrade price per car, if the team wants to run the new spec.

If I have understand you right, then I can sell different specifications of the engine. And if I sell 1978 spec Cosworth, it will be free for me, as I haven't developed it, right?

Also that pricing formula would lead that if teams want to run two cars with newest possible engines, they will have to pay more than 2 mln, which I believe is unacceptable price, given that it is 1979. Which may lead to huge differences between top teams and the rest. However, it is up to you to decide that.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 10:15

Jacky Ickx has offers from Arrows, March, Shadow and Wolf
1-35 Arrows
36-70 Shadow
71-90 March
91-100 Wolf

84, Ickx joins March. Quite a surprise.

Gijs van Lennep has offers from March and Arrows
1-95 Arrows
96-100 March

81, van Lennep hopes to join Arrows, and keep March as a backup plan.

Danny Ongais has only the March offer, and he's their 2nd choice, so he joins them. No chance for a March cockpit for van Lennep then.

Stefan Johansson has only an offer from Shadow.
1-25 goes to a junior series
26-100 joins Shadow.

45, Johansson joins Shadow.

Nigel Mansell has a 60k offer from Wolf.
1-25 Formula 2
26-100 Wolf

57, he signs for Wolf.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 10:24

pycku wrote:
pi314159 wrote:Interesting questions. Manufacturing costs for engines for 1 car are 1/10th of the developments costs. So if you spend 3 000 000 on development, it will cost 300 000 to manufacture the engine. If you develop upgrades, you have to pay 1/10th of the development to upgrade the existing engines, but only for those teams who switch to the new spec.

So an engine contract could look like this:

Basic price: 400 000 per year and car
+15% of the upgrade price per car, if the team wants to run the new spec.

If I have understand you right, then I can sell different specifications of the engine. And if I sell 1978 spec Cosworth, it will be free for me, as I haven't developed it, right?

Also that pricing formula would lead that if teams want to run two cars with newest possible engines, they will have to pay more than 2 mln, which I believe is unacceptable price, given that it is 1979. Which may lead to huge differences between top teams and the rest. However, it is up to you to decide that.

2 Million is exaggerated, but as engine Manufacturers want to make a profit too, I'll change it to 1/20. And no, you can't sell the 1978 engines. But teams who don't have the money to can remain with the old spec when you develop mid-season upgrades and their contract allows them to do so.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 30 Oct 2013, 11:16

Wow by my count we've actually gotten enough for 35 entries when we needed 34, that's just over 1 million extra wonga by my count, hopefully enough to build some decent cars. We should have asked for more money and negotiated with even more drivers. :twisted:

Therefore we will let Masahiro Hasemi keep his money for us and take it to Kaushen.

So Boro's driver rotation will be.

1. Argentine GP (Buenos Aires) - 28. Ricardo Zunino, 29. Miguel Angel Guerra
2. Brazilian GP (Interlagos) - 28. Eliseo Salazar, 29. Miguel Angel Guerra
3. South African GP (Kyalami) - 28. Eliseo Salazar, 29. Arie Luyendyk
4. United States West GP (Long Beach) - 28. Eliseo Salazar, 29. Arie Luyendyk
5. Spanish GP (Jarama) - 28. Eliseo Salazar, 29. Satoru Nakajima
6. Belgian GP (Zolder) - 28. Andrea de Cesaris, 29. Satoru Nakajima
7. Monaco GP (Monaco) - 28. Andrea de Cesaris, 29. Satoru Nakajima
8. French GP (Dijon-Prenois) - 28. Andrea de Cesaris, 29. Satoru Nakajima
9. British GP (Silverstone) - 28. Derek Daly, 29. Albert Poon
10. European GP (Brands Hatch) - 28. Derek Daly, 29. Beppe Gabbiani
11. German GP (Hockenheim) - 28. Roberto Marazzi , 29. Michael Bleekemolen
12. Austrian GP (Österreichring) - 28. Huub Rothengatter, 29. Jan Lammers
13. Dutch GP (Zandvoort) - 28. Huub Rothengatter, 29. Jan Lammers
14. Italian GP (Monza) - 28. Andrea de Cesaris, 29. Teo Fabi
15. Canadian GP (Montreal) - 28. Derek Daly, 29. Teo Fabi
16. United States East GP (Watkins Glen) - 28. Derek Daly, 29. Hiroshi Fushida
17. Japanese GP (Suzuka) - 28. Keiji Matsumoto, 29. Hiroshi Fushida

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 30 Oct 2013, 11:36

Copersucar Team Rebaque sell Arrows, John Watsons contract for 100 k. Watson is looking forward to going to a great team.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:01

Okay, we now wait to see the RNG whether John Watson approves this move or we will have to count on van Lennep.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:06

pycku wrote:Okay, we now wait to see the RNG whether John Watson approves this move or we will have to count on van Lennep.

No need for an RNG. It's the choice between a full season for the champions or 4 races for a new team.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:10

is it ok to announce the engines we want yet ?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:11

roblomas52 wrote:is it ok to announce the engines we want yet ?

No manufacturer has made its plans public yet. There are no engines available yet.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:12

pi314159 wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:is it ok to announce the engines we want yet ?

No manufacturer has made its plans public yet. There are no engines available yet.

oh, ok then

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:49

Actually I think it would be more appropriate to disclose our plans on a e-mail basis. That way only the manufacturer will and pi314... will know the engine strengths and weaknesses and other team managers would know only how much is spent on an engine. Actually maybe Pi should hide even how much is spent on a specific engine, or else there will be a spending war between manufacturers. For example I'd like to invest 3 mlns, but when I see that both Ferrari and Renault are spending 5 mln initially, I'll reconsider my plans in order not to fall behind.Additionally, I am thinking to run a N-A engine for this year, but I may change my plans if I see other manufacturers' plans, that is why I am not rushing to announce anything in relation to engines.

Its just an idea, but I think pi should think about it.

Of course I know that if everything is more secretly, I may have some advantage over other users. But this is the same for Renault and Ferrari team owners, and if Herman takes Matra it will be the same for Williams, so I don't think it is that unfair.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Oct 2013, 12:52

pycku wrote:We expected to be the favourite of Marlboro, but that was not the case.

What did you expect? You didn't have a second driver in place, while McLaren had a proven lineup of World Champions, and a record of 4 Drivers' titles and 3 Constructors' titles in the last 5 years.

As for the engines, I think it should be the same as how team's develop their car's: everyone knows who's focusing on what, but we don't know any tangible stats.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 13:01

pycku wrote:Actually I think it would be more appropriate to disclose our plans on a e-mail basis. That way only the manufacturer will and pi314... will know the engine strengths and weaknesses and other team managers would know only how much is spent on an engine. Actually maybe Pi should hide even how much is spent on a specific engine, or else there will be a spending war between manufacturers. For example I'd like to invest 3 mlns, but when I see that both Ferrari and Renault are spending 5 mln initially, I'll reconsider my plans in order not to fall behind.Additionally, I am thinking to run a N-A engine for this year, but I may change my plans if I see other manufacturers' plans, that is why I am not rushing to announce anything in relation to engines.

Its just an idea, but I think pi should think about it.

Of course I know that if everything is more secretly, I may have some advantage over other users. But this is the same for Renault and Ferrari team owners, and if Herman takes Matra it will be the same for Williams, so I don't think it is that unfair.

I see your point, but on the other hand, it's an unfair disadvantage for users who don't have an engine supplier. I think I'll just blatantly copy the F1RWRS tyre system. I'll make the engine stats public once every supplier has sent me a mail with their plans.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 30 Oct 2013, 14:21

BMW wish for a few "clarifications" regarding pricing budgets etc, as it seems that the numbers in the thread contradict each other. If we put in 3,000,000DM initially, at 1/20th shouldn't that be a base price of 150,000 per engine, not $300,000? And if in say three races we launch our "Panzer-Spec", of which we invested 400,000DM more, would these new spec lumps cost 320,000DM a piece? Or +15% of the total?

Second Set of Clarifications: When we sign our contracts with teams, is the money automatically transferred? Is it half and half? Or is it by-race? I ask because 5,000,000 is an incredibly small budget for a major manufacturer (I'm not complaining mind you, I understand why) and to keep upgrades flowing we'll need capital. Also, is the price fixed or can we add in a bit of a cushion (I refuse to call it profit, since it will all go into R&D)? In my example above for instance, the "Panzer-specs" would cost 320,000DM per car per race so add 10% which is 32,000DM, round to the nearest XX,000, so add 30,000DM for a final price of 350,000DM per car per race. We could even cap it at say 5%, 10%, 15% whatever. Or is the list price the price?

Lastly, can we have a "factory" team? (And no before anyone asks, I haven't made any motions to any teams about this yet, just a thought). Since money is scarce, maybe the works team would receive upgrades free, and engines at base cost all year with no mark-up? Or is this too complicated?

As for specs BMW have no issues letting our potential customers know that we will be building a 1.5L Turbo DOHC 16V I4. What can you expect from it? Well it is our first season, so some ups-and-downs are to be expected, but it will be an aggressive engine, with an aggressive upgrade schedule, and progressively sillier upgrade names (which is what I do in real life with my real race engines FWIW). As soon as the FIA clarifies our queries we will send in our initial dyno sessions and have a price schedule for potential customers, who can contact us via this forum or private mail, however they feel more comfortable.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 14:35

Wallio wrote:BMW wish for a few "clarifications" regarding pricing budgets etc, as it seems that the numbers in the thread contradict each other. If we put in 3,000,000DM initially, at 1/20th shouldn't that be a base price of 150,000 per engine, not $300,000? And if in say three races we launch our "Panzer-Spec", of which we invested 400,000DM more, would these new spec lumps cost 320,000DM a piece? Or +15% of the total?

Second Set of Clarifications: When we sign our contracts with teams, is the money automatically transferred? Is it half and half? Or is it by-race? I ask because 5,000,000 is an incredibly small budget for a major manufacturer (I'm not complaining mind you, I understand why) and to keep upgrades flowing we'll need capital. Also, is the price fixed or can we add in a bit of a cushion (I refuse to call it profit, since it will all go into R&D)? In my example above for instance, the "Panzer-specs" would cost 320,000DM per car per race so add 10% which is 32,000DM, round to the nearest XX,000, so add 30,000DM for a final price of 350,000DM per car per race. We could even cap it at say 5%, 10%, 15% whatever. Or is the list price the price?

Lastly, can we have a "factory" team? (And no before anyone asks, I haven't made any motions to any teams about this yet, just a thought). Since money is scarce, maybe the works team would receive upgrades free, and engines at base cost all year with no mark-up? Or is this too complicated?

As for specs BMW have no issues letting our potential customers know that we will be building a 1.5L Turbo DOHC 16V I4. What can you expect from it? Well it is our first season, so some ups-and-downs are to be expected, but it will be an aggressive engine, with an aggressive upgrade schedule, and progressively sillier upgrade names (which is what I do in real life with my real race engines FWIW). As soon as the FIA clarifies our queries we will send in our initial dyno sessions and have a price schedule for potential customers, who can contact us via this forum or private mail, however they feel more comfortable.

First, 1/20th of 3 000 000 is obviously 150 000, I just forgot to change the numbers. That would be the costs of manufacturing engines for 1 car.

Just an example for clarification:
1) You put 4 000 000 credits into the development of the engine.
2) The manufacturing costs are 200 000 per car and season
3) You decide on the price for customer teams, let's say you sell it to Team A for 300 000
4) You put 500 000 into an upgrade.
5) It will cost you 25 000 per car to upgrade to the new spec.
6) You decide the price you charge from your customers for getting the new spec, maybe 40 000.

Note that these numbers are only examples, you can sell engines to you customers for whatever price you want.

About works teams, yes, you can offer different conditions to different customers. So works teams are allowed.

I hope it makes a bit more sense now.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 30 Oct 2013, 14:36

Meanwhile Ferrari fully intend to maintain tradition and build a big old flat-12, naturally aspirated of course.
Pi, do you want us to email our intended plans or will we just whack them up on here?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Oct 2013, 14:37

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Meanwhile Ferrari fully intend to maintain tradition and build a big old flat-12, naturally aspirated of course.
Pi, do you want us to email our intended plans or will we just whack them up on here?

E-Mail. Once all engine suppliers have sent me their plans, I will make them public.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Oct 2013, 14:59

did you want the teams that have no engine suppliers to emaiil the people making the enggine or just stae our intntions here on the forum?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 30 Oct 2013, 15:04

E-mail sent pi.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 30 Oct 2013, 15:24

takagi_for_the_win wrote:E-mail sent pi.

+1

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 30 Oct 2013, 15:43

pi314159 wrote:
Wallio wrote:BMW wish for a few "clarifications" regarding pricing budgets etc, as it seems that the numbers in the thread contradict each other. If we put in 3,000,000DM initially, at 1/20th shouldn't that be a base price of 150,000 per engine, not $300,000? And if in say three races we launch our "Panzer-Spec", of which we invested 400,000DM more, would these new spec lumps cost 320,000DM a piece? Or +15% of the total?

Second Set of Clarifications: When we sign our contracts with teams, is the money automatically transferred? Is it half and half? Or is it by-race? I ask because 5,000,000 is an incredibly small budget for a major manufacturer (I'm not complaining mind you, I understand why) and to keep upgrades flowing we'll need capital. Also, is the price fixed or can we add in a bit of a cushion (I refuse to call it profit, since it will all go into R&D)? In my example above for instance, the "Panzer-specs" would cost 320,000DM per car per race so add 10% which is 32,000DM, round to the nearest XX,000, so add 30,000DM for a final price of 350,000DM per car per race. We could even cap it at say 5%, 10%, 15% whatever. Or is the list price the price?

Lastly, can we have a "factory" team? (And no before anyone asks, I haven't made any motions to any teams about this yet, just a thought). Since money is scarce, maybe the works team would receive upgrades free, and engines at base cost all year with no mark-up? Or is this too complicated?

As for specs BMW have no issues letting our potential customers know that we will be building a 1.5L Turbo DOHC 16V I4. What can you expect from it? Well it is our first season, so some ups-and-downs are to be expected, but it will be an aggressive engine, with an aggressive upgrade schedule, and progressively sillier upgrade names (which is what I do in real life with my real race engines FWIW). As soon as the FIA clarifies our queries we will send in our initial dyno sessions and have a price schedule for potential customers, who can contact us via this forum or private mail, however they feel more comfortable.

First, 1/20th of 3 000 000 is obviously 150 000, I just forgot to change the numbers. That would be the costs of manufacturing engines for 1 car.

Just an example for clarification:
1) You put 4 000 000 credits into the development of the engine.
2) The manufacturing costs are 200 000 per car and season
3) You decide on the price for customer teams, let's say you sell it to Team A for 300 000
4) You put 500 000 into an upgrade.
5) It will cost you 25 000 per car to upgrade to the new spec.
6) You decide the price you charge from your customers for getting the new spec, maybe 40 000.

Note that these numbers are only examples, you can sell engines to you customers for whatever price you want.

About works teams, yes, you can offer different conditions to different customers. So works teams are allowed.

I hope it makes a bit more sense now.

It does, thank you. Email Sent.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Oct 2013, 16:06

As Alfa-Romeo have filed our plans for our new F1 engine with the Govening body. We can now release some information regarding our Engine.
For 1979 Alfa Romeo are building a Turbo-Charged 1.5 Litre V6 Engine called ALFA 79/15 V6T. Full details about the engine will be made public in due course. However we do plan a number of upgrades in the season of which customer teams can be involved. As we do not want to give away to many details publicly we invite any intrested party to contact us

By the way my email has been snt

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Oct 2013, 17:03

Sent, pi. Drop me a message if there's any issues with it.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 30 Oct 2013, 21:23

First of all! I will take Matra!

We also want to anounce a partnership with Williams! They are a rising team and can help to develop our engine! We will sale our engines on the same conditions to all teams, but we are open for special contracts!

E-mail will be sent!

With regards to Williams:
The official teamname, for 1979, will be: Elf Team Williams-Matra (if thats ok)

We can't be happier here at Williams! With Elf we got the partner we needed in order to be succesful! Our drivers are Carlos Pace and Ronnie Peterson, we couln't expect something better! But isn't it ironic that both drivers didn't drive in 79 anymore because thy where dead....? :cry:

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 31 Oct 2013, 01:46

I think BMW should defenitely choose a German team as works team (or semi-works). And i don't mean ATS!

The #31 driver sequence will be alphabetical. (so Fushida,Hasemi,Henton,Hoshino)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 31 Oct 2013, 01:52

This wrote:I think BMW should defenitely choose a German team as works team (or semi-works). And i don't mean ATS!

The #31 driver sequence will be alphabetical. (so Fushida,Hasemi,Henton,Hoshino)

Just as a heads up before I put it on the wiki, those four can do the following amount of races if my maths is correct:
Fushida: 2
Hasemi: 8
Henton: 9
Hoshino: 5