F1 Alternativ: season 1990

[TomWazzleshaw]

Alain Prost he didn't had much offers for the next season, only Brabham, so the chance he will retire is getting higher and higher, but there is one very ambitious offer, which made some impression on him...
1-10...get some cash and join AGS
11-50...wait for other options
51-100...retire
7 ... OMG...
he will bring
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
98 he can provide 2m$...

Jesus H Christ, I have now officially seen it all. I love the Based RNG Gods sometimes

[pycku]

Hmm, I thought our driver offers were for 2 years.

However, our test driver plans are to sell the place to whoever pays most for one year. We will choose between:

R. Patrese
Andrea de Cesaris
M. Brundle
Alex Zanardi
Christian Danner
Claudio Langes
David Brabham

We would also like to include Michael Andretti, but he is not in the list I believe.

[Ataxia]

AW YEAHHH.

[FMecha]

Johansson stolen?

We'll decide on the following drivers for next year:

Satoru Nakajima
Damon Hill
Eric Bernard
Eric van de Poele
Mika Hakkinen
Ivan Capelli

[Klon]

Well, I need a number one driver, don't I?

In which case I would like offer the following drivers a contract worth 2,000,000:
- Nelson Piquet
- Ricciardo Patrese
- Michael Schumacher
- Martin Brundle

[Hermann95]

Hmm, I thought our driver offers were for 2 years.

However, our test driver plans are to sell the place to whoever pays most for one year. We will choose between:

R. Patrese
Andrea de Cesaris
M. Brundle
Alex Zanardi

We would also like to include Michael Andretti, but he is not in the list I believe.

I didn't saw anything like that in your posts! Andretti is not on the list, maybe at the beginning of 91!

Johansson stolen?

We'll decide on the following drivers for next year:

Satoru Nakajima
Damon Hill
Eric Bernard
Eric van de Poele
Mika Hakkinen
Ivan Capelli

pls, post driver bids with driver role, salarie and contract lengh! Nakajima already stated hi will retire, Hill has signed with Tyrell, Van de Poele with Larrousse and Häkkinen with Arrows!

Well, I need a number one driver, don't I?

In which case I would like offer the following drivers a contract worth 2,000,000:
- Nelson Piquet
- Ricciardo Patrese
- Michael Schumacher
- Martin Brundle

Schumacher is already taken by Benneton, maybe you they let him gain some experience at your team!

[Hermann95]

Round 14: Jerez

Pre-Qualifying

1 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:27.345
2 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.593
3 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:27.602
4 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.956
5 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:28.420
6 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:28.429
7 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:28.934
8 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:29.309
9 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:29.447


Qualifying

1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.242
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:25.246
3 Bernd Scheider (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.574
4 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:25.742
5 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:25.745
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:25.817
7 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:25.946
8 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:25.962
9 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:26.028
10 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:26.059
11 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:26.059
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:26.071
13 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:26.514
14 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:27.014
15 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:27.082
16 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:27.091
17 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:27.116
18 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:27.174
19 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:27.346
20 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:27.357
21 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:27.586
22 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:27.781
23 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:27.853
24 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.861
25 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:27.863
26 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:27.876
27 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.877
28 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:27.882
29 Eddie Irvine (Onyx-Ford) 1:28.013
30 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:28.318

[roblo97]

Minardi would like to offer Satoru Nakajima a contract for 2 years with a 250k per year. Also, does he bring Honda Engines with him?

[kevinbotz]

Minardi would like to offer Satoru Nakajima a contract for 2 years with a 250k per year. Also, does he bring Honda Engines with him?

pls, post driver bids with driver role, salarie and contract lengh! Nakajima already stated he will retire, Hill has signed with Tyrell, Van de Poele with Larrousse and Häkkinen with Arrows!

[Ataxia]

Minardi would like to offer Satoru Nakajima a contract for 2 years with a 250k per year. Also, does he bring Honda Engines with him?

pls, post driver bids with driver role, salarie and contract lengh! Nakajima already stated he will retire, Hill has signed with Tyrell, Van de Poele with Larrousse and Häkkinen with Arrows!

I'm beginning to question if Mr. Lomas can actually read...

[Hermann95]

Minardi would like to offer Satoru Nakajima a contract for 2 years with a 250k per year. Also, does he bring Honda Engines with him?

pls, post driver bids with driver role, salarie and contract lengh! Nakajima already stated he will retire, Hill has signed with Tyrell, Van de Poele with Larrousse and Häkkinen with Arrows!

I'm beginning to question if Mr. Lomas can actually read...

I actualy saw what he did in the Pi's F1 1979 thread and it looks like he start doing the same things here.....

[Wallio]

Will there be engine manufacturers next season? I'm still interested if so. If not, its cool.

[Hermann95]

Round 14: Jerez

Race

Right at the start Nelson Piquet was able to overtake Alain Prost. After the first lap Piquet was leading Prost with Boutsen in 3rd, Schneider in 4th and Senna 5th position. Prost was trying hard to overtake Piquet but he barely had any chance until lap 40. Prost made a brave move on the inside of turn 1, but Piquet didn't let him room which caused a collision. Piquet had to retire and Prost was able to continou, although he was at the very end of the field. Now Senna was in 1st with Boutsen right behind him. Boutsen overtook Senna in lap 55 but lost the position in lap 57. From than on he had to give up the fight in order to save the car and the position. Hill did a fantastic job and grabed a podium.

1 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:53:24.476
2 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:53:45.037
3 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:54:10.123
4 Bernd Scheider (Meclaren-Honda) 1:54:45.840
5 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) -1 lap
6 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -1 lap
7 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -1 lap
8 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) -1 lap
9 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) -1 lap
10 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
11 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) -1 lap
12 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) -1 lap
13 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
14 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) -1 lap
15 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) -1 lap
16 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -1 lap
17 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) -2 laps
18 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) -2 laps
19 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -3 laps/brakes
— Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF lap 40/accident
Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) DNF lap 26/fuel pump
Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) DNF lap 22/collision
Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) DNF lap 22/collision
Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) DNF lap 16/clutch
Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) DNF lap 13/engine
Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) DNF lap 5/accident

Fastest lap: Ayrton Senna

[takagi_for_the_win]

Is it just me or is the Benetton line-up rather depressing given Nanninni's form in this?

[Hermann95]

Will there be engine manufacturers next season? I'm still interested if so. If not, its cool.

I'm still thinking about it, but it would be very cool! We could have 8-9 engine suppliers, with only 1 works team this would mean 7-8 additional people! If there is enough interest(at least 5 additional people) i could implement it!

I already have an idea: you could choose between V8, V10 and V12.
V8: worst power, best weight, a bit better fuel consumption
V12: best power, worst weight, a bit wors fuel consumtion
V10: a bit better power, standard weight, standard fuel consumption

If someone have some thoughts on it please post it!

Her is a list with people who would like to take over an engine manufacturer:
people without a team:
wallio
pi314159

people with a team:
neno
pycku

[Hermann95]

Drivers Championship(Championship fighters with *)

1.Jean Alesi 51*
2. Nelson Piquet 49*
3. Ayrton Senna 42*
4. Thierry Boutsen 35*
5. Alain Prost 26
6. Mika Häkkinen 23
7. Gerhard Berger 19
8. Damon Hill 16
9. Martin Brundle 14
10. Stefano Modena 12


Constructors Championship(Championship fighters with*)
1. Mclaren 83*
2. Ferrari 61*
3. Benneton 52
4. Williams 47
5. Arrows 40
6. Tyrell 25
7. Lotus 19
8. Brabham 7
9. Larrouse 6
10. Minardi 3
11. Ligier 3
12. Dallara 2
13. Onyx 1
14. AGS 1

Prize Money
Benneton 0,9m$
Williams 0,8m$
Arrows 0,4m$
Mclaren 0,3m$
Ligier 0,1m$

Pole Position Challange(Prost Already won!)
Alain Prost 10
Nelson Piquet 2
Jean Alesi 2

Fastest Lap Challange
Jean Alesi 3
Ayrton Senna 3
Thierry Boutsen 2
Gerhard Berger 2
Nelson Piquet 2
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1

Jean Alesi isn't injured anymore.

Testing and driver bidings are open again!

[pi314159]

I'd be interested in managing an engine manufacturer.

[andrew]

Does anyone here want Jordan for 1991, I feel I won't have the time to focus on this series.

First come first serve.

Are you going to get the drivers signed or will I do it?

[Hermann95]

Does anyone here want Jordan for 1991, I feel I won't have the time to focus on this series.

First come first serve.

Are you going to get the drivers signed or will I do it?

I think you are already the manager of Jordan, so it's your job to sign drivers!

[roblo97]

Minardi would like to offer Eddie Irvine a 1 year test driver contract with 200k wages.

We would like to also offer Martin Brundle a 2 year race contract with 780k wages.
If that fails, we would like to offer Mark Blundell or Eddie Irvine a 1 year 600k race contract

Testing will come later.

Thanks

[Hermann95]

Driver list

List woth drivers who are still available:

Alessandro Zanardi
Andrea Chiesa
Andrea de Cesaris
Andrea Montermini
Bernd Schneider
Bertrand Gachot
Bruno Giacomelli
Christian Danner
Claudio Langes
David Brabham
Derek Warwick
Eddi Irvine
Eddie Cheever
Emanuele Pirro
Eric Bernard
Fabrizio Giovanardi
Giani Morbidelli
Gregor Foitek
Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Ivan Capelli
Johnny Dumfries
Jonathan Palmer
Marco Apicella
Mark Blundell
Martin Brundle
Martin Donnelly
Maurício Gugelmin
Michele Alboreto
Nelson Piquet
Nicola Larini
Olivier Grouillard
Paolo Barilla
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Riccardo Patrese
Roberto Moreno
Thomas Danielsson
Yannick Dalmas


List of paydrivers

List of paydrivers(This are all paydrivers so far, some of them are already signed! Pls, ckeck the list above for unsigned drivers!

Aguri Suzuki 0,5m$
Alain Prost 2m$
Andrea Montermini 0m$
Bertrand Gachot 0m$
Emmanuel Collard 0,5m$
Eric van de Poele 0,5m$
Gary Brabham 1m$
Gregor Foitek 0m$
Joachim Winkelhock 1m$
Marko Apicella 0,5m$
Mauricio Gugelmin 0,5m$
Paolo Barilla 0,5m$
Phillipe Alliot 0,5m$
Pirecarlo Ghinzani 0m$

[andrew]

I will offer:
Driver 1
Eddie Irvine 2mill
Brundle 1.1 mill
Driver 2
Frenzen 1.5 mill

Tester
Giovanardi .5mill

All are being offered 2 years.

[Klon]

Schumacher is already taken by Benneton, maybe you they let him gain some experience at your team!

No, instead I will reformulate my offers - the wage offer is still 2.5mil and obviously the job offered is number one driver:
- Nelson Piquet
- Eddie Cheever
- Ivan Capelli
- Martin Brundle
- Ricciardo Patrese

[Shizuka]

Zanardi is still not taken up by others?

[Hermann95]

I will offer:
Eddie Irvine 2mill
Fabrizio Giovanardi 1mill
Frenzen 1.5 mill
Brundle 1.1 mill

All are being offered 2 years.

Which driver role(1st,2nd, test) you offer to them?

[Peteroli34]

Tyrrell Test driver seat will go to who ever can bring the most money to the team as a result we would like these drivers to check down the back of their sofa for any cash

Johnny Dumfries
Jonathan Palmer
Andrea Montermini
Bertrand Gachot
Paolo Barilla
Gregor Foitek
Marko Apicella
Mauricio Gugelmin
Pirecarlo Ghinzani
Thomas Danielsson
Yannick Dalmas

[andrew]

I will offer:
Eddie Irvine 2mill
Fabrizio Giovanardi 1mill
Frenzen 1.5 mill
Brundle 1.1 mill

All are being offered 2 years.

Which driver role(1st,2nd, test) you offer to them?

Edited the post.

[FMecha]

So OK, I'll have:

First Drivers - 1m

Moreno
Capelli
Bernard
Irvine
Donnelly

Second Drivers - 0.5m

Warwick
Capelli
Zanardi
Palmer
Montermini

[Rated]

Too bad I can't sign Luca Badoer yet.
BMS Scuderia Italia-Dallara's test driver role will be awarded to whoever can bring the most money. All the following drivers are offered a one year contract.

Mauricio Gugelmin
Emanuele Pirro
Bruno Giacomelli
Christian Danner
Claudio Langes
Andrea Montermini
Johnny Dumfries

[Bleu]

Ligier will go to Imola for tests. Warwick will test floor, Moreno & Comas rear wing.

[Hermann95]

Testing

Ligier

Floor... not succesful
Rear Wing... succesful


Driver Bidings: Round 3(part 1)

Johnny Dumfries is hoping for a Tyrell and a Dallara testing contract.
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
50 he could provide 0,5m$.

Johnathan Palmer has the option between testing for Tyrell or eventually racing for Onyx:
1-80...Onyx
81-100...Tyrell
25 he tries to catch the Onyx seat.

Thomas Danielsson has the offer to test at Tyrell
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
3 no cash from him.

Yannik Dalmas could test for Tyrell
1-60...trying Tyrell
61-100...hoping for Ferrari
72 he still hopes to catch a seat at Ferrari

Tyrell testing seat the following drivers are offering 0,5m$:
Johnny Dumfries
Paolo Barilla
Marco Apicalla
Mauricio Gugelmin

Nelson Piquet is still fighting for the Championshup with Ferrari. He has one offer from Brabham
1-25...Brabham
26-100...wait for other options
80 he will wait

Eddie Cheever has one offer from Brabham
1-50...Brabham
51-100...stay in the US
98 he will stay in the US

Ivan Capelli is still injured but has got offers from Brabham and Onyx
1-80...Brabham
81-100...Onyx
87 in a very surprising move Capelli signed with Onyx

Martin Brundle is racing a good season for Tyrell, he got racing offers from: Brabahm, Minardi and Jordan, and a testing offer from Arrows:
1-50...Brabham
41-75...Minardi
76-100...Jordan
88 he tries to sign with Jordan. His second option will be:
1-50...Brabham
51-75...Minardi
54 Minardi

Riccardo Patrese had a bad year with Leyton-House. Now he has a racing offer from Brabham and a testing offer from Arrwows
1-95...Brabham
96-100...Arrows
25 he signs with Brabham

Derek Warwick has only the offer from Onyx. He sign.

Eddie Irvine has a offer from Jordan and from Minardi. Both are racing seats
1-80...Jordan
81-100.... Minardi
18 he signs with Jordan, because of that Brundle will sign with Minardi

Heinz Harald Frentzen has a racing offer from Jordan, he'll agree.

Fabricio Giovanardi has a testing offer from Jordan, he'll agree.

[Hermann95]

Driver signing: Round 3(part2)

Arrows testing seat goes to Alessandro Zanardi(-2m$)

Dallara testing seat goes to Emmanuele Pirro(-1m$)


1991 Line up's

Ferrari
TBA
TBA
TBA

Tyrell
Nigel Mansell
Damon Hill
TBA

Williams
Thierry Boutsen
Karl Wendlinger
Allan McNish

Brabham
Riccardo Patrese
Joachim Winkelhock
Gary Brabham

Arrows
Ayrton Senna
Mika Häkkinen
Alesandro Zanardi

Lotus
Gerhard Berger
TBA
TBA

Osella
Oliver Grouillard
Andrea Chiesa
TBA

Leyton House
TBA
TBA
TBA

AGS
Alex Caffi
Alain Prost
Emmanuel Collard

Benneton
Stefano Modena
Allesandro Nannini
Michael Schumacher

Dallara
Erik Comas
JJ Lehto
Emmanuele Pirro

Minardi
Pierluigi Martini
Martin Brundle
TBA

Ligier
Roberto Moreno
Gabriele Tarquini
TBA

Mclaren
Jean Alesi
TBA
TBA

Larrousse
Johnny Herbert
Stefan Johansson
Eric van de Poele

Coloni
TBA
TBA
TBA

Eurobrun
TBA
TBA
TBA

Onyx
Ivan Capelli
Derek Warwick
TBA

Jordan
Eddie Irvine
Heinz Harald Frentzen
Fabricio Giovanardi

Modena
Nicola Larini
Phillipe Alliot
Aguri Suzuki

[andrew]

Irvine and Frezen, looks like I got a good catch there. Does my team start next year?

[Hermann95]

Irvine and Frezen, looks like I got a good catch there. Does my team start next year?

Yes, your team will start in 1991.

[FantometteBR]

Which options of money bringing test drivers are still available?

[good_Ralf]

As I am to become the new manager at Ferrari, do I decide the 1991 line-up now or is that Freeze's responsibility?

[Hermann95]

As I am to become the new manager at Ferrari, do I decide the 1991 line-up now or is that Freeze's responsibility?

You should ask Freeze!

Which options of money bringing test drivers are still available?

Free dirvers
Andrea de Cesaris
Andrea Montermini
Bernd Schneider
Bertrand Gachot
Bruno Giacomelli
Christian Danner
Claudio Langes
David Brabham
Eric Bernard
Giani Morbidelli
Gregor Foitek
Johnny Dumfries
Jonathan Palmer
Marco Apicella
Mark Blundell
Martin Donnelly
Maurício Gugelmin
Michele Alboreto
Nelson Piquet
Olivier Grouillard
Paolo Barilla
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Thomas Danielsson
Yannick Dalmas


Paydrivers(this driver are already asked for money, some of them are already signed!)
Aguri Suzuki 0,5m$
Alain Prost 2m$
Alesandro Zanardi 2m$
Andrea de Cesaris 1m$
Andrea Montermini 0m$
Bertrand Gachot 0m$
Christian Danner 0m$
Claudio Langes 0,5m$
David Brabham 0m$
Emmanuel Collard 0,5m$
Emmanuele Pirro 1m$
Eric van de Poele 0,5m$
Gary Brabham 1m$
Gregor Foitek 0m$
Joachim Winkelhock 1m$
Johnny Dumfries 0,5m$
Marko Apicella 0,5m$
Mauricio Gugelmin 0,5m$
Paolo Barilla 0,5m$
Phillipe Alliot 0,5m$
Pirecarlo Ghinzani 0m$

[Alextrax52]

As I am to become the new manager at Ferrari, do I decide the 1991 line-up now or is that Freeze's responsibility?

No you can do it. I've got other series to focus on

[FantometteBR]

Osella will ask to Claudio Langes to be our test driver

[good_Ralf]

Lead driver

Nelson Piquet - $5m/ 2 years

Second driver

Yannick Dalmas - $3m/2 years

Test driver

Michele Alboreto - $1m/1 year