F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spain race-Porsche needs manager

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 31 Dec 2013, 11:58

Jordan will test Deltraz

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Jan 2014, 00:00

Round 6: Mexico

Pre qualifying

dry
1 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:18.574
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.248
3 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.332
4 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.374
5 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:19.422
6 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.582
7 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.832
8 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:20.488
9 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.784
10 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.816
11 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:22.472
12 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:23.058

Qualifying

1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:15.944
2 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:15.996
3 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:16.318
4 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:16.726
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:16.948
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:16.966
7 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:17.018
8 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.116
9 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:17.232
10 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:17.644
11 Michele Alboreto (Ferrari) 1:17.734
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:17.786
13 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.814*
14 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:17.944
15 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:18.168
16 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.256
17 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.058
18 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:19.352
19 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.772
20 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.780
21 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:19.782
22 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.934
23 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:20.294
24 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:20.308
25 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:20.392
26 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:20.424
27 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:20.496
28 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:21.132
29 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:21.302**
30 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:21.360

* Ayrton Senna had big problems with his engine during the qualifying session.
** Johnny Herbert had an accident very early in the session, it is not sure if he is injured or not

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Jan 2014, 00:23

Round 6: Mexico

Race
Nelson Piquet took a dominant win here at Mexico. From the start he was dominating the race and he was leading every single lap. The Williams' battle for 2nd place. Mansell was able to secure his 4th place although he had some enngine problems during the last few laps. Hakkinen showed good pace in his Arrows, he laped constantly faster than his teammate Senna until his accident. Nannini was able to score 1 point for Benneton because he won the hard fight agains Alboreto who made a solid job this weekend.

Dry
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:27:08.123
2 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:27:34.847
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:27:36.490
4 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:27:54.604
5 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:28:06.365
6 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
7 Michele Alboreto (Ferrari) -1 laps
8 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
9 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) -2 laps
10 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
11 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) -2 laps
12 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -2 laps
13 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
14 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -3 laps
15 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -3 laps
16 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) -3 laps
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Brakes lap 62
- Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 52
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Collision lap 51
- Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 50
- Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) DNF/Driver error lap 44
- Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Crash lap 43
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Driver error lap 41
- Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Gearbox lap 29
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 15
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Crash lap 2

Fastest lap: Nelson Piquet

Injuries: Johnny Herbert had luck and was not injured.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 02 Jan 2014, 07:47

What awful luck, can it get worse? :lol:

Van De Poele will be replacing Herbert for the time being. Can't afford testing, gotta spend half the money back.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 02 Jan 2014, 08:14

That is the first win for Ferrari since I took over at the start of the year. Amazing.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Jan 2014, 08:30

What was the engine problem for Senna because Honda need to know because that is a sign to improve the engine.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Jan 2014, 08:45

roblomas52 wrote:What was the engine problem for Senna because Honda need to know because that is a sign to improve the engine.

He couldn't use the full power because of an exhaust failiure. For an engine wich is already low on power this is very very bad!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 02 Jan 2014, 10:10

Can I test downforce will all 3 cars at silverstone

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Jan 2014, 14:42

andrew wrote:Can I test downforce will all 3 cars at silverstone

Yeah, testing is open now until at least sunday evening!

Rated · Post by **Rated** » 02 Jan 2014, 16:31

Comas, Lehto and Pirro will give another try at testing the adjustable rear wing at Monza. Maybe we'll have luck there and make decent progresses on this upgrade.
If testing at Monza isn't possible, we will test it at Magny-Cours instead.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 02 Jan 2014, 16:36

Leyton House will test at Mexico.
Car 1: Weight
Car 2: Downforce
Car 3: Drag
Again.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jan 2014, 16:36

Well at least we are quicker than the Fondmetals but that's not saying much. What a difference a year makes.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 02 Jan 2014, 16:38

Fondmetal will test the engine at Jerez with their two main drivers and the third car will test downforce

Post by **Ataxia** » 02 Jan 2014, 17:20

AGS will test a drag update with all three cars.

Neno · Post by **Neno** » 02 Jan 2014, 20:36

Modena will test the weight with 1 car and the ajustable rear wing with 2 cars.

Great Aguri Suzuki who qualified again. We need a little luck to score points

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Jan 2014, 22:17

Minardi would like to test at monza with the following...

Driver 1: Engine
Driver 2: Engine
Driver 3: Engine

Thanks

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 02 Jan 2014, 23:17

Tyrrell il head to jerez and all three cars will test our power steering system

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Jan 2014, 17:47

We will go to Jerez with all 3 cars working on reliability this time.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 03 Jan 2014, 19:09

All Techcraft Onyx cars and drivers will go for suspension work in Jerez

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 04 Jan 2014, 08:16

Ligier goes to Nurburgring (GP-course) for testing.
Moreno: Downforce
Tarquini: Drag
Foitek: Weight

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 04 Jan 2014, 18:15

Lotus will join Dallara and Minardi at Monza and will test:

Downforce
Drag
Weight

Also Cosworth has sent plans of their first engine upgrade to the FISA. It is a massive $1,000,000 update, but we will only be charging 80K per car (160k per team) for them. We understand our engine was a bit weak, so we are selling the upgrade at a loss to say sorry! It is available immediately.

Lotus have already purchased them.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 04 Jan 2014, 18:20

Wallio wrote:Lotus will join Dallara and Minardi at Monza and will test:

Downforce
Drag
Weight

Also Cosworth has sent plans of their first engine upgrade to the FISA. It is a massive $1,000,000 update, but we will only be charging 80K per car (160k per team) for them. We understand our engine was a bit weak, so we are selling the upgrade at a loss to say sorry! It is available immediately.

Lotus have already purchased them.

So basically a team can opt out from upgrading, eh? (To Hermann95)

(Oh, and Wallio, can you join my BATracer game, please?)

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 04 Jan 2014, 18:33

FMecha wrote:
Wallio wrote:Lotus will join Dallara and Minardi at Monza and will test:

Downforce
Drag
Weight

Also Cosworth has sent plans of their first engine upgrade to the FISA. It is a massive $1,000,000 update, but we will only be charging 80K per car (160k per team) for them. We understand our engine was a bit weak, so we are selling the upgrade at a loss to say sorry! It is available immediately.

Lotus have already purchased them.

So basically a team can opt out from upgrading, eh? (To Hermann95)
(Oh, and Wallio, can you join my BATracer game, please?)

I have no problems if teams don't buy the upgrade, its your choice. I should be clearer, the Total update is $1,000,000, not the cost per team. That would only be 100k per, which I've slashed 20%

And yes, I did join, but see the disclamier I posted

Post by **kevinbotz** » 04 Jan 2014, 23:03

Williams will test a reliability upgrade at Jerez with all three cars.

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Jan 2014, 23:22

AGS will purchase the updated Cossies too; hopefully we can consolidate our position and get out of pre-qualifying.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 05 Jan 2014, 21:04

FMecha wrote:
So basically a team can opt out from upgrading, eh? (To Hermann95)

Yeah this is an option for every team(except those who don't pay for upgrades or if the upgrade is free.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 06 Jan 2014, 12:49

Testing

Jordan

Downforce succesful

Dallara

Adjustable Rear Wing system worked

Leyton House

Weight succesful
Downforce not succesful
Drag succesful

Fondmetal

Engine new data will be sent to you and Judd
Downforce succesful

AGS

Drag succesful

Modena

Weight not succesful
Adjustable rear wing system didn't work

Minardi

Engine no new data

Tyrell

Power steering system worked

Arrows

Reliability succesful

Onyx

Suspension not succesful

Ligier

Downforce not succesful
Drag not succesful
Weight succesful

Lotus

Downforce succesful
Drag not succesful
Weight not succesful

Williams

reliability succesful

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 06 Jan 2014, 13:16

Ilmor have made an upgrade to improve the reliability of the engine. The upgrade is available for our customers for 200.000 $ per car.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 06 Jan 2014, 13:24

Judd engine upgrades are now available at 600k/car.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 06 Jan 2014, 16:54

Larrousse already approved the new engine and will be using the upgraded version.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 06 Jan 2014, 19:46

Ligier will accept the Cosworth update.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 06 Jan 2014, 20:12

May I please have the new Honda data sent to me via P.M?

Thanks

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 06 Jan 2014, 21:22

roblomas52 wrote:May I please have the new Honda data sent to me via P.M?

Thanks

You failed to get new data during this testing session. It was a writing mistake, sorry!

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 07 Jan 2014, 13:27

Actually I didn't use the gathered data for Judd, but you can send it to me via e-mail

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 07 Jan 2014, 17:05

Hermann95 wrote:Judd engine upgrades are now available at 600k/car.

Fondmetal will pay the engine upgrades for both cars

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 23 Jan 2014, 21:55

Hey guys,
i know it has been quite a long time since this series made progress but i really don't have much time at the moment(school...).
This series will defenitly go on.
Best case: this weekend
worst case: in about 1-3 weeks.

Greets Hermann

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 10 Feb 2014, 14:54

I have good and bad news for you:
the good one: i finally found time to do the next race.
the bad one: i dont have time at the moment to write race reports, so the next few races will be without reports!

Round 7: Magny-Course

Pre-Qualifying
Dry
1 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:18.024
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.374
3 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.612
4 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:18.784
5 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:18.822
6 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.854
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:18.982
8 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.456
9 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.776
10 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:21.242
11 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:21.630
12 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:22.096

Qualifying
Dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:16.602
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:16.824
3 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:17.186
4 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.230
5 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.420
6 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.558
7 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:17.688
8 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.822
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:18.034
10 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:18.320
11 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:18.392
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:18.424
13 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.464
14 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.490
15 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:18.678
16 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:18.714
17 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.248
18 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.698
19 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:19.820
20 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:19.976
21 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.978
22 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:20.034
23 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:20.354
24 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:20.400
25 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:20.696
26 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:21.002
27 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:21.126
28 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:21.578
29 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:22.018
30 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:22.098

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 10 Feb 2014, 15:25

Round 7: Magny-Course

Race
Heavy Rain

1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:48:40.670
2 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:49:20.657
3 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:49:26.928
4 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:49:28.650
5 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:49:38.555
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:49:49.784
7 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:49:55.789
8 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
9 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
10 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -1 laps
11 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
12 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
13 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
- Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) DNF/Crash lap 65
- Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Brakes lap 62
- Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 59
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Driver error lap 53
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Suspension lap 42
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 37
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Suspension lap 32
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 21
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Brakes lap 20
- Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) DNF/Accident lap 17
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Collision lap 13
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Collision lap 8
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Collision lap 6

Fastest Lap: Jean Alesi

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 10 Feb 2014, 15:29

Double finish! It's a good day today.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 10 Feb 2014, 16:15

Doesn't seem like that $1,000,000 I put into the cossies did much.......