Alternative F1 Season 1989 (Voting!)

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 Feb 2014, 19:01

Nope, the 2014 series is just a copycat season.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 25 Feb 2014, 19:05

Ataxia wrote:Nope, the 2014 series is just a copycat season.

Hmmm yes, however both are run in the same haphazard way

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 Feb 2014, 19:11

andrew wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....

Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE

Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.

If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET. :evil:

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 25 Feb 2014, 19:13

FMecha wrote:
andrew wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....

Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE

Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.

If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET.

Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 25 Feb 2014, 21:43

Missed the good sponsor opportunities because monday i went to a concert of Me First And The Gimme Gimmes, and i prefer having actual fun over being competitive. But anyway, instead of gay-punk, back to business now :lol:

Ligier:
Type 1 Sponsors
Elf (3.5mil)
If this fails:
Goodyear (1mil, team must use Goodyear tires)

Type 2 Sponsors
Winston (0.5mil)

Type 3 Sponsors
Personal (0.4mil)

Tyres: Goodyear. It's a gamble, but at least we'll be sort of a 'works Goodyear team'

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 26 Feb 2014, 05:26

FMecha wrote:
andrew wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:This and FRG2000's series are already blurring together in my mind....

Am I the only one who is thinking about multi accounts. Seriously I have a team in both and the same problem in both, NO bathplug CLUE

Nuppiz said FA1L is Finnish on IRC. FRG2000 is from Argentina. They are just being scrubs.

If this chaos continues, I'll ragequit and call for a locking of the thread. In fact, he gave FIRST (andrew's team) BATHPLUGGING ZERO MONEY AS STARTING BUDGET.

I´m NOT Finnish. Perhaps it came because I was on a vacation in Finland 2 weeks ago..

Post by **Ataxia** » 26 Feb 2014, 11:33

andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money

The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 26 Feb 2014, 22:42

I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 26 Feb 2014, 22:59

Actually, you know what? McLaren will run completely without sponsorship this season, because yolo

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 26 Feb 2014, 23:43

Ataxia wrote:
andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money

The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.

This. I found it slightly confusing at first, but I used my mind and 42 to get some decent sponsors. How else would Coloni have about 1/4 of Ferrari's budget? :lol:

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 27 Feb 2014, 05:32

This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)

Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 27 Feb 2014, 07:07

FA1L wrote:
This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.

Can I have a list of what is available

Post by **kevinbotz** » 27 Feb 2014, 07:29

Williams will be running without Type 2 and Type 3 sponsors this season.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 27 Feb 2014, 10:38

go_Rubens wrote:
Ataxia wrote:
andrew wrote:
Yes he did, he wants reject teams to do well, how can I do well with this mad sponsor system and no money

The sponsor market is completely free, ya mook. You could have had Parmalat if you'd wanted and been quick enough, instead of lamenting the emptiness of your bank account.

This. I found it slightly confusing at first, but I used my mind and 42 to get some decent sponsors. How else would Coloni have about 1/4 of Ferrari's budget?

Be prepared for the dawn of the March era of domination

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 27 Feb 2014, 13:32

andrew wrote:
FA1L wrote:
This wrote:I noticed you have two teams with 7-eleven sponsorship... (Onyx and First)
Thanks, fixed that. If McLaren are seriously running with no sponsorship, we have FIRST, Williams, Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Dallara and Zakspeed with missing sponsors.

Can I have a list of what is available

Tier 1:
Agip (4.4mil)
Certina (2mil)
Rolex (1.7mil)
Pepsi (1.5mil)
Johnnie Walker (0.2mil)
Mountain Dew (0.1mil)

Tier 2:
Osama (0.2mil)
Sega (0.2mil)
Zerowatt (0.1mil)
Texaco (0.1mil)
Shoei (0.1mil)
Talbot (0.1mil)

Tier 3:
Petromin (0.4mil)
Zucchini (0.3mil)
Adidas (0.2mil)
Emerson (0.1mil)
Fami (0.1mil)
Falke (0.1mil)
Pernod (0.1mil)
Scania (0.1mil)
Olympus (0.1mil)

…unless I´m completely mistaken

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 27 Feb 2014, 13:47

^I have Capcom, and you forget to account for those:

FA1L wrote:
FMecha wrote:Can I have tiers and money they will pay for the following sponsors?

Barclay (cigarettes) (Tier 2/0.5mil)
Microsoft (Tier 2/0.5mil
Martini (Tier 1/1.2mil
USF&G (Tier 1/0.7mil)
ATS (Tier 2/0.6mil)
DeLonghi (Tier 3/0.2mil)
Fondmetal (Tier 3/0.4mil)
Leyton House (Tier 1/1mil)
Gitanes (Tier 1/1.8mil)
Motul (Tier 2/0.9mil)
Jagermeister (Tier 1/3mil)
Iceberg (watches) (Tier 3/0.3mil)

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 27 Feb 2014, 14:15

FMecha wrote:^I have Capcom, and you forget to account for those:

FA1L wrote:
FMecha wrote:Can I have tiers and money they will pay for the following sponsors?

Barclay (cigarettes) (Tier 2/0.5mil)
Microsoft (Tier 2/0.5mil
Martini (Tier 1/1.2mil
USF&G (Tier 1/0.7mil)
ATS (Tier 2/0.6mil)
DeLonghi (Tier 3/0.2mil)
Fondmetal (Tier 3/0.4mil)
Leyton House (Tier 1/1mil)
Gitanes (Tier 1/1.8mil)
Motul (Tier 2/0.9mil)
Jagermeister (Tier 1/3mil)
Iceberg (watches) (Tier 3/0.3mil)

None of them has been taken?

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 27 Feb 2014, 16:19

I'll take agip then

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 27 Feb 2014, 16:20

Can Zakspeed have Rolex and Sega please?

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 27 Feb 2014, 21:21

Can I take Dallara.

Sponsors: Certina, Texaco and Zucchini.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 01 Mar 2014, 17:25

This wrote:
Tyres: Goodyear. It's a gamble, but at least we'll be sort of a 'works Goodyear team'

Oh really? I'll duel you for it. :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 02 Mar 2014, 03:59

Can Fondmetal as T3 sponsor?

I have

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 02 Mar 2014, 04:32

So Agip are paying top dollar to sponsor a team that has never turned a wheel in anger and were literally broke to start with. Yeah, seems legit :lol:

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 02 Mar 2014, 08:03

Sponsor deadline was today. The sponsor list is now finalized.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 02 Mar 2014, 08:36

Thaught I had only one sponser spot left, I'll take fami and and motul

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 03 Mar 2014, 13:02

Okay, the next thing is engines:

Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari

Renault V12 1986, with the turbo removed
Costs 3.5mil, is very fast but unreliable. Can only be 1 team's engine

Lamborghini V12 1989
Costs 3mil, a bit slower than Renault, can only supply 1 team

Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil

Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity

Mercedes V10 1987
Engine used in the WSC. Costs 2.4mil

Hart V8 1989
Costs 2.3mil, faster but not so reliable than Judd

Cosworth V8 1989
Costs 2mil, slow but reliable

Peugeot V8 1989
A new trier in engines, costs 1mil. Can supply 2 teams

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 03 Mar 2014, 13:24

Tyrrell Engine Bid

Honda V12 1988
Judd V10 1989
Cosworth V8 1989

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 03 Mar 2014, 13:44

Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 03 Mar 2014, 13:54

Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?

There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:00

FA1L wrote:
Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.

Actually, it was in 1991, they supplied Minardi.

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:27

Salamander wrote:
FA1L wrote:
Salamander wrote:Could I have some say in which team gets customer Ferrari engines (assuming those are a thing)?
There aren't, if I remember correctly, the first time there were was in the late-90s.

Actually, it was in 1991, they supplied Minardi.

Ah, OK. But, it was 1991, and this is 2 years earlier..

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:31

Even though some of the engines are quite unrealistic, we will bid for the following engines:
in order of preference
Judd
Hart
Cosworth
Peugeot

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:42

March would like to bid for the following, in order of preference:
1st: Honda - 2.8m
2nd: Hart - 2.3m
3rd: Judd - 2.5m

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:45

Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari

Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil

Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity

they are the engines for larrouse

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:48

Honda and Renault had new engines for 1989, not merely old V6s with turbos removed, FA1L. Anyway, Brabham will go for:

Judd
Mercedes

Although we won't take the Peugeots, can we have specs on their engine?

roblomas52 wrote:Ferrari V12 1989
Will automatically be the engine for Ferrari

Honda V12 1988, with no turbo
Fast, costs 2.8mil

Judd V10 1989
Costs 2.5mil, decent pace and reliablity

they are the engines for larrouse

You can't have Ferrari engines Rob.

FA1L · Post by **FA1L** » 03 Mar 2014, 14:53

FMecha wrote:Although we won't take the Peugeots, can we have specs on their engine?

They are bad at first, but they'll improve and become one of the top engines for the mid-90s.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 03 Mar 2014, 15:16

We will nod for hart and Judd

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 03 Mar 2014, 15:19

FA1L wrote:Ah, OK. But, it was 1991, and this is 2 years earlier..

Yeah, but I don't see what would be so bad about allowing Ferrari customer engines now.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 03 Mar 2014, 15:19

I checked the first post and Tyrrell are listed to have no sponsors. I listed my sponsors on page 2.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 03 Mar 2014, 15:46

Renault and Honda ran V6 Turbos, not V10/12s. And Mercedes ran a F12 in the Wsc, and Peugeot ran a V10 not a V8, and not until much later........

And where is Yamaha?

Zakspeed will take Cosworths.