F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spain race-Porsche needs manager
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
Race
dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:35:46.206
2 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:35:53.229
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:36:05.856
4 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:36:56.754
5 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:36:56.880
6 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) -1 laps
7 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
8 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
9 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
10 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
11 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
12 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
13 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -2 laps
14 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
- Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 64
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Gearbox lap 59
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Suspension lap 54
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 54
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Collision lap 42
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Suspension lap 38
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 35
- Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Gearbox lap 33
- Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Suspension lap 33
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Brakes lap 24
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Collision lap 14
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 9
Fastest lap: Jean Alesi
Injurie report: Nigel Mansell will miss the next 2 races because of an back injurie
dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:35:46.206
2 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:35:53.229
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:36:05.856
4 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:36:56.754
5 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:36:56.880
6 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) -1 laps
7 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
8 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
9 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
10 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
11 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
12 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
13 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -2 laps
14 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
- Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 64
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Gearbox lap 59
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Suspension lap 54
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 54
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Collision lap 42
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Suspension lap 38
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 35
- Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Gearbox lap 33
- Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Suspension lap 33
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Brakes lap 24
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Collision lap 14
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 9
Fastest lap: Jean Alesi
Injurie report: Nigel Mansell will miss the next 2 races because of an back injurie
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Well, this season is screwed.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Ligier will at the Hungaroring and test
Tarquini - drag
Moreno - weight
Foitek - suspension
Tarquini - drag
Moreno - weight
Foitek - suspension
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Minardi will have Martini and Brundle testing adjustable wing and the test driver( I honestly can't remember his name) testing Weight. Thank you
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Does listening to a dog licking its balls get you excited?
That's between me and my internet service provider.
One of those journalist types.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Ferrari will test at Monza. If that is not allowed we will test at the Hungaroring.
Alboreto - Drag
Dalmas - Weight
Alboreto - Drag
Dalmas - Weight
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Williams will test a downforce upgrade at Paul Ricard with all three drivers.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
We will keep testing our sequential gearbox with all three drivers at Paul Ricard.
To finish first, first you have to finish!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Brabham will join Williams at Paul Ricard to continue working on an adjustable front wing with Riccardo Patrese and Gary Brabham.
Last edited by Klon on 04 Mar 2014, 23:49, edited 1 time in total.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Klon wrote:Minardi will join Williams at Paul Ricard to continue working on an adjustable front wing with Riccardo Patrese and Gary Brabham.
Your team is Brabham

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Hermann95 wrote:Klon wrote:Minardi will join Williams at Paul Ricard to continue working on an adjustable front wing with Riccardo Patrese and Gary Brabham.
Your team is Brabham
GODDAMMIT! I did it again.

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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Maurício Gugelmin will replace Mansell for the next 2 grand prix. He and Hill will test our Traction control system at silverstone
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Testing
Ligier
Drag: not succesful
Weight: not succesful
Suspension: succesful
Minardi
started adjustable Front wing: -1m$
adjustable Front wing: system didn't work
Weight: succesful
Ferrari
Drag: not succesful
Weight: not succesful
Williams
Downforce: not succesful
Arrows
sequential Gearbox: system didn't work
Brabham
adjustable FW: system worked
Tyrell
traction control: system didn't work
Ataxia please check your e-mails
Ligier
Drag: not succesful
Weight: not succesful
Suspension: succesful
Minardi
started adjustable Front wing: -1m$
adjustable Front wing: system didn't work
Weight: succesful
Ferrari
Drag: not succesful
Weight: not succesful
Williams
Downforce: not succesful
Arrows
sequential Gearbox: system didn't work
Brabham
adjustable FW: system worked
Tyrell
traction control: system didn't work
Ataxia please check your e-mails
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Round 11: Spa-Francochamps
Pre qualifying
heavy rain
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 2:08.290
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:08.936
3 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:09.176
4 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.868
5 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 2:10.220
6 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 2:10.630
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 2:11.716
8 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 2:12.882
9 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:12.924
10 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 2:13.054
11 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 2:14.336
12 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 2:14.968
Qualifying
heavy rain
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 2:05.372
2 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 2:06.796
3 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 2:07.164
4 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 2:07.490
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 2:07.568
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 2:07.676
7 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 2:07.692
8 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 2:07.796
9 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 2:07.800
10 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 2:08.380
11 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) 2:08.444
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 2:08.886
13 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 2:09.160
14 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.322
15 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 2:09.408
16 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:09.584
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 2:09.590
18 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 2:09.882
19 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.898
20 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 2:09.950
21 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 2:10.112
22 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 2:10.272
23 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 2:10.432
24 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 2:11.092
25 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 2:11.132
26 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 2:11.426
27 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 2:11.440
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 2:11.896
29 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 2:12.016
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 2:12.816
Race
The race started under light rainy conditions and was red flaged during lap 1 because of a rather heavy crash from Michael Schumacher at Eau Rouge, in which he was not injured. It was red flaged again after a big crash from Stefano Modena at Blachimont. He sustained neck and arm injuries. After the restart the rest of the race went pretty fine and the track went dry just before the first half of the race ended.
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:21:16.446
2 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:21:17.038
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:21:29.443
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:21:58.118
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:08.076
6 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:36.197
7 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:22:58.247
8 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
9 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
10 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
11 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -1 laps
12 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -1 laps
13 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
- Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Clutch lap 39
- Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 37
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 32
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Driver error lap 27
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 26
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Driver error lap 22
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Crash lap 21
- Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Gearbox lap 13
- Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Crash lap 12
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Gearbox lap 12
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 7
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Engine lap 4
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Crash lap 1
Fastest lap: Karl Wendlinger
Injurie report: Stefano Modena will miss the next 4 races.
Pre qualifying
heavy rain
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 2:08.290
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:08.936
3 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:09.176
4 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.868
5 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 2:10.220
6 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 2:10.630
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 2:11.716
8 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 2:12.882
9 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:12.924
10 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 2:13.054
11 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 2:14.336
12 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 2:14.968
Qualifying
heavy rain
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 2:05.372
2 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 2:06.796
3 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 2:07.164
4 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 2:07.490
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 2:07.568
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 2:07.676
7 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 2:07.692
8 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 2:07.796
9 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 2:07.800
10 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 2:08.380
11 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) 2:08.444
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 2:08.886
13 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 2:09.160
14 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.322
15 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 2:09.408
16 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 2:09.584
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 2:09.590
18 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 2:09.882
19 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 2:09.898
20 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 2:09.950
21 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 2:10.112
22 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 2:10.272
23 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 2:10.432
24 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 2:11.092
25 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 2:11.132
26 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 2:11.426
27 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 2:11.440
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 2:11.896
29 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 2:12.016
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 2:12.816
Race
The race started under light rainy conditions and was red flaged during lap 1 because of a rather heavy crash from Michael Schumacher at Eau Rouge, in which he was not injured. It was red flaged again after a big crash from Stefano Modena at Blachimont. He sustained neck and arm injuries. After the restart the rest of the race went pretty fine and the track went dry just before the first half of the race ended.
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:21:16.446
2 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:21:17.038
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:21:29.443
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:21:58.118
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:08.076
6 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:36.197
7 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:22:58.247
8 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
9 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
10 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) -1 laps
11 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -1 laps
12 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -1 laps
13 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
- Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Clutch lap 39
- Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 37
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 32
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Driver error lap 27
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 26
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Driver error lap 22
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Crash lap 21
- Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Gearbox lap 13
- Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Crash lap 12
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Gearbox lap 12
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 7
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Engine lap 4
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Crash lap 1
Fastest lap: Karl Wendlinger
Injurie report: Stefano Modena will miss the next 4 races.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Seeing as though I'm up to my eyeballs in series, I may as well resign from Benetton. Thus, everyone's favourite team from Enstone are up for grabs 

TORA! TORA! TORA!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Any standings as the wiki page is not updated?
To finish first, first you have to finish!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
pycku wrote:Any standings as the wiki page is not updated?
The standings on the first page(2nd post) are updated.
I would edit the wiki page myself but i don't have any permissions for it...
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Seeing as though I'm up to my eyeballs in series, I may as well resign from Benetton. Thus, everyone's favourite team from Enstone are up for grabs
I didn't had time to answer this properly until now, so thank you for your participation in this series. If you like to return in the future there'll be a place for you(at least on the waiting list

As the waiting list is empty by now, Benneton is up for graps. If nobody takes it over by Sunday i'll manage them until they got a new manager.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Hermann95 wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:Seeing as though I'm up to my eyeballs in series, I may as well resign from Benetton. Thus, everyone's favourite team from Enstone are up for grabs
I didn't had time to answer this properly until now, so thank you for your participation in this series. If you like to return in the future there'll be a place for you(at least on the waiting list).
As the waiting list is empty by now, Benneton is up for graps. If nobody takes it over by Sunday i'll manage them until they got a new manager.
As I'm also their engine supplier, I'm going to manage Benetton until the end of the year if no one else wants the team. However, I'm not sure yet if I'm going to stay in the series after 1991, as I'm currently scaling down my PMMF involvement.
pasta_maldonado wrote:The stewards have recommended that Alan Jones learns to drive.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
pi314159 wrote:Hermann95 wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:Seeing as though I'm up to my eyeballs in series, I may as well resign from Benetton. Thus, everyone's favourite team from Enstone are up for grabs
I didn't had time to answer this properly until now, so thank you for your participation in this series. If you like to return in the future there'll be a place for you(at least on the waiting list).
As the waiting list is empty by now, Benneton is up for graps. If nobody takes it over by Sunday i'll manage them until they got a new manager.
As I'm also their engine supplier, I'm going to manage Benetton until the end of the year if no one else wants the team. However, I'm not sure yet if I'm going to stay in the series after 1991, as I'm currently scaling down my PMMF involvement.
Ok you'll manage them if no one else(a new member to this series f.e) wants them.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Can I manage them?Hermann95 wrote:Ok you'll manage them if no one else(a new member to this series f.e) wants them.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hungaroring race up
Renngeist wrote:Can I manage them?Hermann95 wrote:Ok you'll manage them if no one else(a new member to this series f.e) wants them.
Yeah, but as you are a new member i have to warn you: please don't dissapear(many new members sign up for a series and than dissapear)
So if you have any questions feel free to ask, but try to find the answer on your own first

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race-Benneton up for grap
All three cars will be testing the adjustable rear wing
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race-Benneton up for grap
Arrows will be testing our sequential gearbox system with all 3 drivers. Track: Donnigton park or some other in Britain.
To finish first, first you have to finish!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race-Benneton up for grap
pycku wrote:Arrows will be testing our sequential gearbox system with all 3 drivers. Track: Donnigton park or some other in Britain.
Neno wrote:All three cars will be testing the adjustable rear wing
Testing isn't open yet. You only have the opportunity to test after every 2nd race so after the GP at Monza you will have the next opportunity.
Btw. Renngeist please anounce the replacement driver for the injured Stefano Modena until tomorrow. Otherwise your test driver, Michael Schumacher will get the cockpit.
Btw. I decided to delay the driver signing until the start of next season because we already have the new chassis system and with this it will be hard enough for the teams to calculate the budget for next season. I also would like to remind you that only AGS has handed in their chassis plans by now. Keep in mind that you have to submit your plans before the last race in order to get both pre season tests.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race-Benneton up for grap
Schumacher will replace Modena.Hermann95 wrote:pycku wrote:Arrows will be testing our sequential gearbox system with all 3 drivers. Track: Donnigton park or some other in Britain.Neno wrote:All three cars will be testing the adjustable rear wing
Testing isn't open yet. You only have the opportunity to test after every 2nd race so after the GP at Monza you will have the next opportunity.
Btw. Renngeist please anounce the replacement driver for the injured Stefano Modena until tomorrow. Otherwise your test driver, Michael Schumacher will get the cockpit.
Btw. I decided to delay the driver signing until the start of next season because we already have the new chassis system and with this it will be hard enough for the teams to calculate the budget for next season. I also would like to remind you that only AGS has handed in their chassis plans by now. Keep in mind that you have to submit your plans before the last race in order to get both pre season tests.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race up
Arrows are working on Base 5 (the best) chassis. Should I announce upgrades now?
To finish first, first you have to finish!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race up
pycku wrote:Arrows are working on Base 5 (the best) chassis. Should I announce upgrades now?
A short clarification:
You are choosing your base(1-5) plus an upgrade for it. If you choose no upgrade you just have the base. The so called "free points"(10 for the Base plus the upgrade points) are freely distrubutable. With this system the best possible configuration is Base 5 with Upgrade 3(total costs: 10m$). The worst package is Base 1 with no upgrades(total costs: 100k$).
Btw you also have the opportunity to hand in your plans by PM in order to keep it secred.

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spa race up
Honda NSC-Cup: Round 2
Qualifying
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2:36.002
2 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 2:36.036
3 Allan McNish (Williams) 2:36.067
4 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2:36.315
5 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 2:36.460
6 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 2:36.506
7 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 2:36.517
8 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 2:36.602
9 JC Boullion (Arrows) 2:36.716
10 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 2:36.807
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 2:36.997
12 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 2:37.275
13 Simon Kane (Brabham) 2:37.346
14 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 2:37.591
15 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 2:37.662
16 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 2:37.839
17 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 2:38.326
Race 18 laps
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 47:23.514
2 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 47:49.575
3 JC Boullion (Arrows) 47:52.548
4 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 47:54.047
5 Marco Apicella (Modena) 47:55.532
6 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 47:55.540
7 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 48:03.199
8 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 48:04.551
9 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 48:08.627
10 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 48:09.369
11 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 48:12.052
12 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 48:13.154
13 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 48:13.423
14 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 48:14.231
15 Simon Kane (Brabham) 48:19.032
16 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 48:36.556
17 Allan McNish (Williams) 48:38.530
Point standings
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 12
2 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 10
3 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 9
4 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 6
5 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 4
- JC Boullion (Arrows) 4
7 Allan McNish (Williams) 3
8 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2
9 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 1
- Luca Badoer (Dallara) 1
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Round 12: Monza
Pre qualifying
dry
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.202
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.500
3 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.662
4 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:18.824
5 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:19.382
6 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.382
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.986
8 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:20.010
9 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:20.410
10 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.498
11 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:20.928
12 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:22.468
Qualifying
dry
1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:16.682
2 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:16.780
3 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.260
4 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:17.292
5 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.382
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:17.414
7 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:17.524
8 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:17.856
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:17.888
10 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:18.104
11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.308
12 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:18.470
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:18.516
14 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:18.566
15 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.638
16 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.648
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.680
18 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) 1:18.848
19 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.858
20 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:18.998
21 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:19.046
22 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.050
23 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:19.058
24 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:19.068
25 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.082
26 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:19.190
27 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:19.294
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:19.696
29 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:20.270
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:20.626
Qualifying
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2:36.002
2 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 2:36.036
3 Allan McNish (Williams) 2:36.067
4 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2:36.315
5 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 2:36.460
6 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 2:36.506
7 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 2:36.517
8 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 2:36.602
9 JC Boullion (Arrows) 2:36.716
10 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 2:36.807
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 2:36.997
12 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 2:37.275
13 Simon Kane (Brabham) 2:37.346
14 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 2:37.591
15 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 2:37.662
16 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 2:37.839
17 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 2:38.326
Race 18 laps
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 47:23.514
2 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 47:49.575
3 JC Boullion (Arrows) 47:52.548
4 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 47:54.047
5 Marco Apicella (Modena) 47:55.532
6 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 47:55.540
7 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 48:03.199
8 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 48:04.551
9 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 48:08.627
10 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 48:09.369
11 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 48:12.052
12 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 48:13.154
13 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 48:13.423
14 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 48:14.231
15 Simon Kane (Brabham) 48:19.032
16 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 48:36.556
17 Allan McNish (Williams) 48:38.530
Point standings
1 Eric Helary (Ligier) 12
2 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 10
3 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 9
4 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 6
5 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 4
- JC Boullion (Arrows) 4
7 Allan McNish (Williams) 3
8 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2
9 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 1
- Luca Badoer (Dallara) 1
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Round 12: Monza
Pre qualifying
dry
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.202
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.500
3 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.662
4 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:18.824
5 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:19.382
6 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.382
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.986
8 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:20.010
9 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:20.410
10 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.498
11 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:20.928
12 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:22.468
Qualifying
dry
1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:16.682
2 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:16.780
3 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.260
4 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:17.292
5 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.382
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:17.414
7 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:17.524
8 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:17.856
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:17.888
10 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:18.104
11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.308
12 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:18.470
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:18.516
14 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:18.566
15 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.638
16 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.648
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.680
18 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) 1:18.848
19 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.858
20 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:18.998
21 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:19.046
22 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.050
23 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:19.058
24 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:19.068
25 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.082
26 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:19.190
27 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:19.294
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:19.696
29 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:20.270
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:20.626
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Honda Rookie-Cup
Round 12: Monza
Race
dry
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:11:05.346
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:11:19.450
3 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:11:45.936
4 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:11:52.051
5 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:11:53.706
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:11:54.211
7 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:12:18.724
8 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:12:19.759
9 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
10 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -1 laps
11 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) -1 laps
12 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) -1 laps
13 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
14 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
15 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
16 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
17 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
18 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 45
- JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Suspension lap 39
- Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 38
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 31
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Driver error lap 21
- Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 21
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 5
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Suspension lap 4
Fastest lap: Alex Caffi
injurie report: Nigel Mansell has recovered from his injuries and is able to test and race from now on.
Testing is open
Race
dry
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:11:05.346
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:11:19.450
3 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:11:45.936
4 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:11:52.051
5 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:11:53.706
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:11:54.211
7 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:12:18.724
8 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:12:19.759
9 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
10 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -1 laps
11 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) -1 laps
12 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) -1 laps
13 Mauricio Gugelmin (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
14 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
15 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
16 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
17 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
18 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 45
- JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Suspension lap 39
- Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 38
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 31
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Driver error lap 21
- Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 21
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 5
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Suspension lap 4
Fastest lap: Alex Caffi
injurie report: Nigel Mansell has recovered from his injuries and is able to test and race from now on.
Testing is open
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
Williams will test their new sequential gearbox at Monza with all three drivers.
Klon, on Alt-F1 wrote: I like to think it's more poker than gambling, though.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
Yannick Dalmas is to be officially replaced by Michele Alboreto from Estoril onwards. Driver decisions for 1992 are inconclusive. Is Ferrari allowed to take in their junior driver Mika Salo as a test driver?
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
Allard Kalff in 1994 wrote:OH!! Schumacher in the wall! Right in front of us, Michael Schumacher is in the wall! He's hit the pitwall, he c... Ah, it's Jos Verstappen.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
Herbert does not perform well, while Johansson puts up a fight. I would like to do a swap with van de Poele, please.
Maybe vdP gets a good seat for 1992, so I can showcase his talent, like with what I did with Zanardi
Maybe vdP gets a good seat for 1992, so I can showcase his talent, like with what I did with Zanardi

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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
We declared it earlier, but we will test our sequential gearbox in Donnington or other British track (if there are other participants).
To finish first, first you have to finish!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
pycku wrote:We declared it earlier, but we will test our sequential gearbox in Donnington or other British track (if there are other participants).
Minardi will also join Arrows in testing a sequential gearbox at Donnington with Brundle, Martini and if it is ok, the recently sacked Yannick Dalmas in the 3rd car?
Mexicola wrote:shinji wrote:Mexicola wrote: I'd rather listen to a dog lick its balls. Each to their own, I guess.
Does listening to a dog licking its balls get you excited?
That's between me and my internet service provider.
One of those journalist types.
270 Tube stations in 18:42:50!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
roblomas52 wrote:Minardi will also join Arrows in testing a sequential gearbox at Donnington with Brundle, Martini and if it is ok, the recently sacked Yannick Dalmas in the 3rd car?
Dalmas is released, so that's fine.
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
Allard Kalff in 1994 wrote:OH!! Schumacher in the wall! Right in front of us, Michael Schumacher is in the wall! He's hit the pitwall, he c... Ah, it's Jos Verstappen.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
The three drivers will be testing the adjustable rear wing
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
Tyrrell will head to silverstone and test our traction control system with all 3 drivers
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
We will test... something
What can Benetton test right now?

What can Benetton test right now?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
Renngeist wrote:We will test... something![]()
What can Benetton test right now?
You can test pretty much everything. The standard things are Downforce, drag, weight, suspension and reliability. Under normal circumsdances you can test with a maximum of 3 cars(if you have a test driver) for the costs of 200k per car. As Modena is injured you only have 2 drivers for testing. There is also the opportunity totest high technical upgrades but please try to find the information about this on your own.(i think they are in the 1990 thread somewhere at the beginning)
If you still have any questions feel free to ask.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Monza race up
OK, thank youHermann95 wrote:Renngeist wrote:We will test... something![]()
What can Benetton test right now?
You can test pretty much everything. The standard things are Downforce, drag, weight, suspension and reliability. Under normal circumsdances you can test with a maximum of 3 cars(if you have a test driver) for the costs of 200k per car. As Modena is injured you only have 2 drivers for testing. There is also the opportunity totest high technical upgrades but please try to find the information about this on your own.(i think they are in the 1990 thread somewhere at the beginning)
If you still have any questions feel free to ask.
