2014 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 23 Jul 2014, 11:15

Hamilton has to win here. I mean, he's outqualified his teammate at the Hungaroring every year with the exception of that infamous 2007 session. Lewis is as good at this track as say, Montreal but of course he was pipped by Rosberg when it counted there. I get the feeling he will dominate the weekend until the end of Q3 and then it will unravel from there, again.
As usual Formula 1's website is predicting a thunderstorm for Sunday :roll:

Plus Williams are bringing a major upgrade to a racetrack that shouldn't suit them. Could this be 2005 all over again?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Jul 2014, 11:29

Hamilton will buckle under pressure, self-destruct and take Rosberg with him as collateral damage, leaving the path clear for Valtteri Bottas to take his first Grand Prix victory :mrgreen:

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Jul 2014, 12:30

Biscione wrote:Hamilton will buckle under pressure, self-destruct and take Rosberg with him as collateral damage, leaving the path clear for Valtteri Bottas to take his first Grand Prix victory

Hungary has a reputation for throwing up first time wins (Hill, Alonso, Button, Kovalainen) and unusual results (Boutsen's win and other good performances, Mansell winning from 12th on the grid, Bertrand Gachot getting a fastest lap, Hill's heroics in the Arrows, de la Rosa's only podium). Heck, we might even see Kamui get run over by the medical car!

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 23 Jul 2014, 13:33

Toto Wolff got caught up in a bicycle crash like Heidfeld in 2005, but he expects to travel to Budapest.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 23 Jul 2014, 20:57

No Susie in FP1 any more.
Life feels meaningless.. :cry:

According to absurdism, humans historically attempt to find meaning in their lives. Traditionally, this search results in one of two conclusions: either that life is meaningless, or life contains within it a purpose set forth by a higher power.
Susie was just that. She gave off that encouraging soothing vibe of a higher power, that everything was going to be alright. No obstacles in life seemed impossible when Susie was in the car, no problem or setback too great. And now it's all gone.
I'm sure you all feel the same way, so what can we do?
I have not mourned nearly as much as this since we lost Gaston Mazzacane in 2001.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 23 Jul 2014, 21:01

Jocke1 wrote:I have not mourned nearly as much as this since we lost Gaston Mazzacane in 2001.

What about when Yuji Ide lost his superlicence?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Jul 2014, 21:07

good_Ralf wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:I have not mourned nearly as much as this since we lost Gaston Mazzacane in 2001.

What about when Yuji Ide lost his superlicence?

My interest in F1 began soon after Giovanna Amati lost her drive to a then-future World Champion. Maybe subconsciously, it was her plight that drew me to the sport? And if her replacement could win the title, what could she have done, given the same opportunities? Points? Podiums? The occasional win, perhaps?

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 23 Jul 2014, 21:43

It's a must win for Lewis this weekend. Also, I get to watch every session live thanks to it being the summer holidays

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 23 Jul 2014, 23:51

I predict a boring race (maybe, the worst of all year). Its hungaroring, you know.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 24 Jul 2014, 02:10

good_Ralf wrote:
What about when Yuji Ide lost his superlicence?

Not as much. I never fully understood Yuji, and I'm not talking about the charming language barrier which was as vast as the coast line outside Sumoto. He yelled at his mechanics and just generally seemed like 'miss mistreated' when he wasn't trying to kill his opponents or being busy trying out a new sandtrap.
His shifting skills is something I will forever admire, though.

Gaston on the other hand, what a hero, he felt most comfortable being in his motorhome listening to The Rolling Stones. He did his own thing, he didn't speak much and he didn't care about his opponents (he was the original Kimi of the 00's). His routine was to put it 22nd on the grid, finish the race in last place and go home to La Plata or Faenza content with his performance, and rightly so (he was the original Chilton). He was also quoted in F1 Racing once saying how he dreamt of winning in F1.. with Minardi. How could you not love him to bits. If I had a choice of being someone else, I'd be Gaston Mazzacane.
Nothing seemed to faze Gaston. He was always cool, calm and collected even when he struck his mechanic in the Indy pits. It's a travesty his time at Prost was cut short. Oh, what could have been.

The world would be a lot better off if everyone were a little bit more like Gaston Mazzacane.
Well that's how I feel, anyway.

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 24 Jul 2014, 02:58

mrfakeboullier wrote:It's a must win for Lewis this weekend. Also, I get to watch every session live thanks to it being the summer holidays

For me, it's the other way around. I will miss qualifying for the first time since Silverstone 2011, as my sister's wedding is on Saturday. Not that I watch every session each week; I often record the practice sessions and fast forward through them if they are shown early.

good_Ralf wrote:As usual Formula 1's website is predicting a thunderstorm for Sunday

Knowing how well they predict weather, it will be dry (and boring) but how nice it would be to see a really chaotic race. More points for Marussia (and hopefully some for Caterham, as well)!

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 24 Jul 2014, 06:20

Ah, Hungaroring. Circuit with a boring reputation, yet like it was mentioned earlier, has a tendency to offer career first wins.

Go Valtteri!

(Jocke1, please, just go away.)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Jul 2014, 02:00

Meatwad wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:As usual Formula 1's website is predicting a thunderstorm for Sunday
Knowing how well they predict weather, it will be dry (and boring) but how nice it would be to see a really chaotic race. More points for Marussia (and hopefully some for Caterham, as well)!

Ah, gotta love Meteo France and how utterly, utterly hopeless they are at their job

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 25 Jul 2014, 02:53

Wizzie wrote:
Meatwad wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:As usual Formula 1's website is predicting a thunderstorm for Sunday
Knowing how well they predict weather, it will be dry (and boring) but how nice it would be to see a really chaotic race. More points for Marussia (and hopefully some for Caterham, as well)!

Ah, gotta love Meteo France and how utterly, utterly hopeless they are at their job

I wonder if they do that just to make people excited for the race when they full well know it will be bone dry...

I'm not standing up.

Yet.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 25 Jul 2014, 07:11

DonTirri wrote:Ah, Hungaroring. Circuit with a boring reputation, yet like it was mentioned earlier, has a tendency to offer career first wins.

Go Valtteri!

(Jocke1, please, just go away.)

I agree with you, I think Bottas is in with a really good shout if Qualifying goes well for him. If Williams can keep it together then either him or, yes, Massa could have their best opportunity this year.

I wonder if anybody on here has ever wished that you would go away?

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 25 Jul 2014, 08:52

Gearbox fire for Chilton as he came into the pits from his installation lap. Plumes of smoke and then a bit of fire at the end. He's out of the session.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jul 2014, 09:04

CoopsII wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Ah, Hungaroring. Circuit with a boring reputation, yet like it was mentioned earlier, has a tendency to offer career first wins.

Go Valtteri!

(Jocke1, please, just go away.)

I agree with you, I think Bottas is in with a really good shout if Qualifying goes well for him. If Williams can keep it together then either him or, yes, Massa could have their best opportunity this year.

I wonder if anybody on here has ever wished that you would go away?

He used to be the self entitled troll on this forum, so yeah, it wouldn't be surprising if one or two other members might have wished he would go away.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Jul 2014, 09:26

I reckon Lotus must have given up with this year's car now that they have the Merc engine deal for 2015. A shame really, the car definitely has potential, but it's riddled with reliability issues.

EDIT: And of course, just after I post this, The Reverend puts the car into 13th. He's been on it for the last few races.

And Sutil's just spun it again. :roll:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jul 2014, 09:31

East Londoner wrote:And Sutil's just spun it again.

I think Sutil has been losing interest. I do wonder how much of Sauber woes were self inflicted by choosing such a poor driving pair...

Post by **Miguel98** » 25 Jul 2014, 09:55

Raikonnen 3rd!!! Yes, he finally seems to care.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 25 Jul 2014, 09:58

Miguel98 wrote:Raikonnen 3rd!!! Yes, he finally seems to care.

Hurrah! I look forward to that translating to 14th by Sunday night!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jul 2014, 10:04

CoopsII wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:Raikonnen 3rd!!! Yes, he finally seems to care.

Hurrah! I look forward to that translating to 14th by Sunday night!

Don't disdain, CoopsII! Everyone one knows that Kimi's only issue as a racing driver is maintaining his interest. You see, he could be one of the best out there if not the best but he is always thwarted by a lack of interest and desire to get beaten by his team-mates.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 25 Jul 2014, 10:21

DanielPT wrote:Don't disdain, CoopsII!

I never disdain. Disdain, datdain, its all the same to me. "For Sure"TM as long as he's interested he'll knock it out of the park but it's a long time until race day and who knows what'll distract him between now and then. Brake issues, downforce problems, someone bouncing a Slinky in front of his face, who knows?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 25 Jul 2014, 10:27

An update for weather.

Local forecasts say Saturday will be sun dry with no rain, however Sunday will have an about 40 percentage of rain. Remember the first V8 race here? It was wet in the beginning...

We might get a shock winner here again, somehow our circuit throws them up.
I seriously hope Bottas can plonk the car up to the first two rows somewhere.

Miguel98 wrote:Raikonnen 3rd!!! Yes, he finally seems to care.

Yes.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 25 Jul 2014, 11:42

DanielPT wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Ah, Hungaroring. Circuit with a boring reputation, yet like it was mentioned earlier, has a tendency to offer career first wins.

Go Valtteri!

(Jocke1, please, just go away.)

I agree with you, I think Bottas is in with a really good shout if Qualifying goes well for him. If Williams can keep it together then either him or, yes, Massa could have their best opportunity this year.

I wonder if anybody on here has ever wished that you would go away?

He used to be the self entitled troll on this forum, so yeah, it wouldn't be surprising if one or two other members might have wished he would go away.

I wish he would go away.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 25 Jul 2014, 14:45

I like Jocke. His posts are funny and light-hearted and his conspiracy thread is ridiculous and hilarious. Don't see what the problem is.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:10

Mexicola wrote:I like Jocke. His posts are funny and light-hearted and his conspiracy thread is ridiculous and hilarious. Don't see what the problem is.

Maybe the problem is not everyone has the same sense of humour? I don't get the humour in Jocke's posts at all. That said, it's fairly easy to just ignore them.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:12

This forum needs a little less hate. GROUP HUG!

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:18

Salamander wrote:
Mexicola wrote:I like Jocke. His posts are funny and light-hearted and his conspiracy thread is ridiculous and hilarious. Don't see what the problem is.

Maybe the problem is not everyone has the same sense of humour? I don't get the humour in Jocke's posts at all. That said, it's fairly easy to just ignore them.

No, I get that he's not going to be everyone's cup of tea (I probably should have made that clear in my post, but hey), but don't you think telling him to go away just because of difference in what we find funny is a bit much?

He's just one guy, fellas. Not worth getting worked up about. And you can easily ignore him, as Salamander's pointed out.

This wrote:This forum needs a little less hate. GROUP HUG!

I'm more of handshake guy myself. GROUP HANDSHAKE!

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:19

DanielPT wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Ah, Hungaroring. Circuit with a boring reputation, yet like it was mentioned earlier, has a tendency to offer career first wins.

Go Valtteri!

(Jocke1, please, just go away.)

I agree with you, I think Bottas is in with a really good shout if Qualifying goes well for him. If Williams can keep it together then either him or, yes, Massa could have their best opportunity this year.

I wonder if anybody on here has ever wished that you would go away?

He used to be the self entitled troll on this forum, so yeah, it wouldn't be surprising if one or two other members might have wished he would go away.

I wasnt the "self entitled troll". I used to be the only user who could be classed as a troll. Nowadays even I seem to be a quality poster. That saddens me.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:28

Williams don't seem to be performing as well here than in other tracks this year. Maybe that Valtteri Bottas won't get that first grand prix victory that I and many others are hoping for?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:29

DonTirri wrote:I wasnt the "self entitled troll". I used to be the only user who could be classed as a troll. Nowadays even I seem to be a quality poster. That saddens me.

Well, given that from what I can remember, nobody called you troll but still you had in your signature a reference from being this forum's service troll (again, from memory). Maybe I am confusing you with someone else which in that case, I apologize.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 25 Jul 2014, 15:53

Mexicola wrote:Williams don't seem to be performing as well here than in other tracks this year. Maybe that Valtteri Bottas won't get that first grand prix victory that I and many others are hoping for?

The Williams FW36 lacks downforce, so on tracks where df is paramount to success e.g. Monaco and Hungary, the car sucks, much like it did in Monte Carlo earlier this year. Tracks with low downforce set-ups and high straight line speed work with the Williams, so Spa and Monza could well be field days for them. Williams not being best of the rest again today wasn't much of a surprise to me TBH. Also Hamilton beats Rosberg in both FP sessions.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 Jul 2014, 16:06

Mexicola wrote:
This wrote:This forum needs a little less hate. GROUP HUG!

I'm more of handshake guy myself. GROUP HANDSHAKE!

Some Christians do a handshake/hug combo - shake hands with right arms, hug over shoulders with the left. This works for me (not the forum member, I mean the odd greeting).

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 25 Jul 2014, 16:09

You heard the man, GROUP HUGSHAKE!

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 25 Jul 2014, 16:35

DonTirri wrote: I used to be the only user who could be classed as a troll. Nowadays even I seem to be a quality poster. That saddens me.

A real troll doesn't think he's a troll. Just saying.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Jul 2014, 17:38

Wallio wrote:
DonTirri wrote: I used to be the only user who could be classed as a troll. Nowadays even I seem to be a quality poster. That saddens me.

A real troll doesn't think he's a troll. Just saying.

A real troll doesn't let other people think he thinks he's a troll. A real troll obviously knows he's trolling. I oughta know, back in my days, trolling meant something.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 25 Jul 2014, 17:40

Klon wrote:
Wallio wrote:
DonTirri wrote: I used to be the only user who could be classed as a troll. Nowadays even I seem to be a quality poster. That saddens me.

A real troll doesn't think he's a troll. Just saying.

A real troll doesn't let other people think he thinks he's a troll. A real troll obviously knows he's trolling. I oughta know, back in my days, trolling meant something.

(shrug) nowadays sure, but when the internet just started the trolls were the ones who violently denied trolling, instead "truly believing" in X/Y/Z and repeating the same three or four "facts" to back themselves up. Que other trolls (usually the same guy with many accounts) backing him up.

Being a troll as a badge of honor is something new. And is rather interesting honestly.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 25 Jul 2014, 17:56

I'm just wondering if some of this should be merged into the Rantbox thread now being as both threads are covering the same topic including the latest development; "I used to be a troll but Im not anymore"...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Jul 2014, 18:07

CoopsII wrote:I'm just wondering if some of this should be merged into the Rantbox thread now being as both threads are covering the same topic including the latest development; "I used to be a troll but Im not anymore"...

Yes, indeed. We should discuss the talking points about the Hungarian Grand Prix you just brought us ... oh, wait.