AndreaModa wrote:So day 1 of the auction took place today. I kept one eye on it whilst at work, and I have to say, something seems a bit odd about it all. £160 RRP race boots bought for £220 plus VAT. Six notebooks for £200. All very inflated prices, so absolutely no chance that I was coming out of it with anything - not that it bothers me too much, I have enough Marussia merch already! It almost seemed like there was a bit of artificial inflation going on.
The sad thing was the race cars from last year fetched £52k (Max) and £54k (Jules) which is an absolute steal when you consider the price that some old F1 cars go for on eBay. To buy such a recent F1 car for that sort of money is madness. Craig Scarborough commented on Twitter that they were the only bargains of the whole day!
Anyone else feeling brave enough to admit they paid crazy money for something?
I guess that it was a situation where most people can afford something like a pair of racing boots but, by comparison, the old cars themselves would appeal to a more limited customer base - the resultant competition for the lower priced items therefore pushing those prices up more rapidly, but the higher value cars being contested by fewer bidders and therefore going for a relative bargain.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
AndreaModa wrote:So day 1 of the auction took place today. I kept one eye on it whilst at work, and I have to say, something seems a bit odd about it all. £160 RRP race boots bought for £220 plus VAT. Six notebooks for £200. All very inflated prices, so absolutely no chance that I was coming out of it with anything - not that it bothers me too much, I have enough Marussia merch already! It almost seemed like there was a bit of artificial inflation going on.
The sad thing was the race cars from last year fetched £52k (Max) and £54k (Jules) which is an absolute steal when you consider the price that some old F1 cars go for on eBay. To buy such a recent F1 car for that sort of money is madness. Craig Scarborough commented on Twitter that they were the only bargains of the whole day!
Anyone else feeling brave enough to admit they paid crazy money for something?
AndreaModa wrote:So day 1 of the auction took place today. I kept one eye on it whilst at work, and I have to say, something seems a bit odd about it all. £160 RRP race boots bought for £220 plus VAT. Six notebooks for £200. All very inflated prices, so absolutely no chance that I was coming out of it with anything - not that it bothers me too much, I have enough Marussia merch already! It almost seemed like there was a bit of artificial inflation going on.
The sad thing was the race cars from last year fetched £52k (Max) and £54k (Jules) which is an absolute steal when you consider the price that some old F1 cars go for on eBay. To buy such a recent F1 car for that sort of money is madness. Craig Scarborough commented on Twitter that they were the only bargains of the whole day!
Anyone else feeling brave enough to admit they paid crazy money for something?
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
Also Ferrari, McLaren, Manor, Glock, Shanghai, Catalunya, FIA and FOM are in the list..so sad
Given that Timo Glock's name features quite high up the list, it suggests that perhaps he hadn't been fully paid off when Marussia pushed him out of the team a few years ago in favour of Chilton, which can only add insult to injury. I can also imagine that the inhabitants of Cherwell will not be pleased to see that their council was owed over £56,000 from the team that will now have to be written off...
I imagine that both Ferrari and McLaren will be smarting a bit from the losses that they've made there - there was an article in The Telegraph that indicated that is just the list of unsecured creditors, so it doesn't include a further debt of around £13.2 million that was owed to Lloyds Development Capital. However, even Lloyds will be having to write off most of that debt, since Marussia's assets and current account comes to about £2.2 million - the unsecured creditors, meanwhile, can forget all hopes of payment. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... -team.html
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
Ferrari have nobody to blame but themselves - they pass as much of the costs on to customers as they canm
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
mario wrote:I can also imagine that the inhabitants of Cherwell will not be pleased to see that their council was owed over £56,000 from the team that will now have to be written off...
If the fools sat round the table at Cherwell District Council had any sense, they would have written that amount off ages ago as a goodwill gesture to keep the team (and thus roughly 200 of its council tax-paying citizens, plus suppliers - a whole load of the companies in that list are in the Banbury area) in employment and out of dole queues.
For what it's worth though, I understand motorsport teams are some of the worst when it comes to invoices and paying creditors, even before trouble like what has happened to Marussia. I know that Prodrive for instance take a serious amount of chasing up just to pay for small amounts of work carried out by other companies for them. Unfortunately I suspect it's crept into the ideology of how these operation are run, hence why so many are owed money by Marussia in the list above.
I really hope they can be on the grid on 2015, but if this will happen, would be more than a miracle at this point, they have probably (because is not official) sold their factory, would be a crazy resurrection
*chair begins shaking* The F1 paddock intensifies!
Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
So this is a car that's climbed out of an oily grave... twice? What next - Gene Haas buying it and painting it in his colours for a blast round the New Jersey circuit that never was?
James Allen, on his favourite F1 engine of all time: "...the Life W12, I can't describe the noise to you, but imagine filling your dustbin with nuts and bolts, and then throwing it down the stairs, it was something akin to that!"
AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:AFAIK it's a repainted Super Aguri SA06 used for exhibition puropses
That's right, they run it in Moscow City Racing, I believe.
The SA06 looks good in Marussia painting, i have to say
Someone needs to go on a photoshop spree and paint all their favourite reject liveries onto the Super Aguri one. The chassis is just so nice that it suits just about most bright colours.
Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
Simtek wrote:You know what? Bathplug it. That's going to be my new avatar. A Super Aguri in Marussia colours.
'Yo dawg, we heard you liked F1 rejects...'
In fact, given that the SA06 was a reworking of the SA05, which was in turn a reworking of the Arrows A23, it's almost a case of a reject chassis, based on a reject chassis which based on a reject chassis, painted in the colours of a reject team...
The Iceman Waiteth What if Kimi Räikkönen hadn't got his chance in 2001?
Simtek wrote:You know what? Bathplug it. That's going to be my new avatar. A Super Aguri in Marussia colours.
'Yo dawg, we heard you liked F1 rejects...'
In fact, given that the SA06 was a reworking of the SA05, which was in turn a reworking of the Arrows A23, it's almost a case of a reject chassis, based on a reject chassis which based on a reject chassis, painted in the colours of a reject team...
Reject to the power of 4 equals to awesome.
Colin Kolles on F111, 2011 HRT challenger: The car doesn't look too bad; it looks like a modern F1 car.
Simtek wrote:You know what? Bathplug it. That's going to be my new avatar. A Super Aguri in Marussia colours.
'Yo dawg, we heard you liked F1 rejects...'
In fact, given that the SA06 was a reworking of the SA05, which was in turn a reworking of the Arrows A23, it's almost a case of a reject chassis, based on a reject chassis which based on a reject chassis, painted in the colours of a reject team...
Reject to the power of 4 equals to awesome.
Looking closer, I'm reasonably sure that's Max Chilton driving...reject^5
The Iceman Waiteth What if Kimi Räikkönen hadn't got his chance in 2001?
Backmarker wrote:'Yo dawg, we heard you liked F1 rejects...'
In fact, given that the SA06 was a reworking of the SA05, which was in turn a reworking of the Arrows A23, it's almost a case of a reject chassis, based on a reject chassis which based on a reject chassis, painted in the colours of a reject team...
Reject to the power of 4 equals to awesome.
Looking closer, I'm reasonably sure that's Max Chilton driving...reject^5
The same car also used to be known once as the Minardi PS04. Never raced, but some parts of it were re-used on the PS04B. Reject^6 The Shadow of Arrows lives on!
DanielPT wrote: Reject to the power of 4 equals to awesome.
Looking closer, I'm reasonably sure that's Max Chilton driving...reject^5
The same car also used to be known once as the Minardi PS04. Never raced, but some parts of it were re-used on the PS04B. Reject^6 The Shadow of Arrows lives on!
The same car also used to be known once as the Minardi PS04. Never raced, but some parts of it were re-used on the PS04B. Reject^6 The Shadow of Arrows lives on!
And that Minardi PS04 was tested by Nicolas Kiesa
Reject^7
And that Minardi PS04 was driven by Gianmaria Bruni.
This wrote:That awkward moment when people don't get my 'shadow of arrows' pun or think it wasn't funny
To be perfectly honest, I didn't actually notice you'd written it
But now that you mention it, it's a damn good one, especially considering I just read a whole article on Arrows and its creation.
Speaking of puns, I really liked Super Aguri, because unlike the overly British-corporate attitude at the works team, they seemed to have the real Spirit of Honda.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
But I don't understand. Where does Alex Wurz come into all this?
Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
