2001 CART - Test #1 completed.

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 28 Apr 2015, 15:02

What the title says.

So I figured that as the two CART seasons here are dead and I am a huge fan of 1980-2003 AOW, I'll just take a stab at running this. And what's better for it than the last great season of CART?!

There are 16 teams as there were in 2001. 26 driver slots. The only changes from real life are that Dale Coyne is going to race a full season with one car at the cost of Forsythe's 3rd car (I think it's not good to have only one team with 3 cars).
There is a choice of 2 chassis and 4 engines. Firestone is the only tire supplier. Sponsors are going to be the part of the game, just as developments.
Damaged and written off chassis and engines will cost 50k to 300k, but no general condition will be monitored. (Eg: If you don't wreck you can race the whole season with one chassis and one engine without a loss in performance)
Only the teams will be managed.
Order of the choices will be: Team, Chassis/Engine, Driver(s), Sponsor(s)
Real drivers only and big F1 names and frontrunners will NOT come overseas as they have no reason to do so. (Coulthard wants to be an F1 champ, Hakkinen doesn't care, Frentzen is hoping for a free top seat, Montoya just gone to F1, etc.)

This is my first time running a virtual series and will use a combination of F1C (for the road races and ovals and maybe the street ones if it is not a wreckfest), RNG to calculate daily performances of the cars and drivers as well as the negotiations and maybe rFactor too, if F1C decides that it can only handle road courses.
Suggestions are welcome!

The 22 race calendar will contain the 21 races originally scheduled in 2001 and an extra race on the European leg.

1 - Monterrey Grand Prix - Fundidora Park Monterrey - March 11

2 - Long Beach Grand Prix - Streets of Long Beach - April 8

3 - Firestone Firehawk 600 - Texas Motor Speedway - April 29

4 - Lehigh Valley Grand Prix - Nazareth Speedway - May 6

5 - Japan 500 - Twin Ring Motegi - May 19

6 - Pissy Beer 225 - Milwaukee Mile - June 3

7 - Grand Prix of Detroit - The Raceway on Belle Isle Park - June 17

8 - Freightliner 200 - Portland International Raceway - June 24

9 - Grand Prix of Cleveland - Burke Lakefront Airport - July 1

10 - Molson Indy Toronto - Exhibition Place - July 15

11 - Harrah's 500 - Michigan International Speedway - July 23

12 - Target Grand Prix - Chicago Motor Speedway - July 29

13 - Miller Lite 200 - Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course - August 12

14 - Motorola 220 - Road America - August 19

15 - Molson Indy Vancouver - Streets of Vancouver - September 2

16 - The American Memorial - EuroSpeedway Lausitz - September 15

17 - Rockingham 500 - Rockingham Motor Speedway - September 22

18 - Proximus Grand Prix - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps - October 7

19 - Grand Prix of Houston - Streets of Houston - October 14

20 - Grand Prix of Monterey - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca - October 21

21 - Australia Indy 300 - Surfers Paradise Street Circuit - October 28

22 - Marlboro 500 - California Speedway - November 4

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 28 Apr 2015, 15:05

Gentlemen, start your team selection!
Teams:

- Budget: 4,8 million Manager: Peteroli34
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Honda
Sponsor: Marlboro
#2 - Dario Franchitti 5.5m
#3 - Hélio Castroneves 6.5m

- Budget: 2,55 million Manager: Reject_Dom
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Ford
Sponsors: Miller Lite? (1m), Visteon (1m)
#7 - Cristiano da Matta 5.75m
#8 - Kenny Bräck 6m

- Budget: 3 million Manager: V8fan12
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Toyota
Sponsors: Texaco? (1m), ?
#6 - Tony Kanaan 5.5m
#11 - Bruno Junqueira 3.5m

- Budget: 3,55 million Manager: Salamander
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Ford
Sponsors: Player's (1m), Delta Faucet (750k)
#32 - Paul Tracy 5m
#33 - Buddy Lazier 2.5m

- Budget: 3,8 million Manager: FantometteBR
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Ford
Sponsors: Valvoline (750k), Quaker State (250k)
#20 - Roberto Moreno 3.5m
#40 - Christian Fittipaldi 3m

- Budget: 3,3 million Manager: Biscione
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Honda
Sponsor: Kool (2m)
#1 - Gil de Ferran 7.5m
#26 - Dan Wheldon free

- Budget: 4,8 million Manager: FortiFord
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Toyota
Sponsors: Shell (1m), Sadia
#55 - Scott Dixon 4m
#66 - Mauricio Gugelmín +1m

- Budget: 1,5 million Manager: Normal32
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Honda
Sponsor: Target (2m)
#4 - Max Papis 4m
#12 -Sarah Fisher 2.5m

- Budget: 4,5 million Manager: GerhardTalger
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Honda
Sponsor: Motorola (700k)
#39 - Michael Andretti

- Budget: 2,55 million Manager: RonDenisDeletraz
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Ford
Sponsors: Whirlpool (250k), Stella Artois
#17 - David Saelens +1m
#18 - Patrick Carpentier 3m

- Budget: 2,3 million Manager: Bleu
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Ford
Sponsors: Tecate (600k), Nextel (1m)
#51 - Adrián Fernández
#52 - Oriol Servia 1.8m

- Budget: 0,9 million Manager: SeedStriker
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Honda
Sponsors: KMart (900k)
#22 - Alex Zanardi 1.8m

- Budget: 2,5 million Manager: RedEyes504
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Toyota
Sponsors: Herdez (500k)
#16 - Michel Jourdain, Jr. +500k

- Budget: 5,5 million Manager: Klon
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Toyota
Sponsors: Jacuzzi, Cross Pens
#5 - Jim Guthrie +3m (ovals only)
#5 - Geoff Boss +1.5m (street and road courses only)

- Budget: 1,6 million Manager:Miguel98
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Toyota
Sponsors: Pioneer Hi-Fi (300k), Alpine
#25 - Alex Barron 500k (ovals, bar Motegi)
#25 - Shinji Nakano +1m (street and road courses, plus Motegi)
#25 - Sébastien Bourdais (R18, R20)

- Budget: 3,8 million Manager: Wizzie
Chassis: Lela
Engine: Ilmor
Sponsors: Playstation, Embartel
#19 - Nicholas Minassian +1m
#21 - Luiz Garcia, Jr. +1m (street and road courses)
#21 - Casey Mears +0.5m (ovals)

Waiting list:
Ice1Racing
Samster
CaptainGetz12

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Apr 2015, 15:36

Pencil me in for Forsythe Racing.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 28 Apr 2015, 16:44

I understood that Fernandez is free for his own team? If so, I take that one. Otherwise I choose Mo Nunn.

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 28 Apr 2015, 17:05

Bleu wrote:I understood that Fernandez is free for his own team? If so, I take that one. Otherwise I choose Mo Nunn.

Yes, he is free and already in car #51, forgot to write it out.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 28 Apr 2015, 17:18

Last time someone ran a non-canon AltCART I had Team Green, and it went surprisingly well, so I'll pick Team Green again. I'd probably have picked Honda engines even with free choice anyway.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 28 Apr 2015, 17:36

Penske for me please

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 28 Apr 2015, 18:44

I will take Team Rahal.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 28 Apr 2015, 19:19

I will take over Ganassi.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 28 Apr 2015, 19:55

I'd like Newman Haas please

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 Apr 2015, 23:38

I'll take Dale Coyne to continue the team's long-honoured tradition of playing pay-driver merry-go-round

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 29 Apr 2015, 00:54

I will take PacWest

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 29 Apr 2015, 12:40

Wizzie wrote:I'll take Dale Coyne to continue the team's long-honoured tradition of playing pay-driver merry-go-round

That's the spirit!

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 29 Apr 2015, 17:13

I'll take Patrick then

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 29 Apr 2015, 17:59

So as we reached 10 teams I post the chassis and engine manufacturers with their prices. Feel free to post your choices right now, but we will need all 16 teams to be present before doing the RNG for engines in order to have a fair competition.
Chassis is on a pay and take basis.

Chassis:
Reynard - 3,2m - Marginally better on road and street courses
Lola - 3m - Marginally better on ovals

Engines:
Honda - 3m
The almighty Honda engine. The one to have if you want to win on proper racetracks or emit clouds of smoke. (Maximum of 5 teams)

Ford-Cosworth - 2.5m
Left turns beware! The true and tested Cosworth engine with great durability and good top speed. Want to win the 3 crown jewels? This is your motor. (Maximum of 5 teams)

Toyota - 2m
Still not as fast or as well-regarded as the other two, but 100% competitive in every aspect for a low price. Midfielders and aspiring backmarkers, look no further. (Unlimited supply)

Phoenix-Ilmor - 0.7m
You will need a great wheelman if you want to race with this thing.
Low speed, low reliability, top kek. (1 team if someone is adventurous/rejectful enough.)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Apr 2015, 19:17

I will go down the RL route with Team Green and take Reynards.

I will also get down on my knees and beg Dale Coyne Racing to take the Phoenix-Ilmor engine

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Apr 2015, 19:21

I will also mirror RL and take the Reynard-Ford Cosworth package for Forsythe.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 29 Apr 2015, 19:38

Ganassi will take the Lola-Honda package.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 29 Apr 2015, 20:25

Newman-Haas will follow real life and go for the Lola-Toyota combo.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 29 Apr 2015, 22:24

Patrick would like a spot with the Reynard-Ford package

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 30 Apr 2015, 00:26

Biscione wrote:I will go down the RL route with Team Green and take Reynards.

I will also get down on my knees and beg Dale Coyne Racing to take the Phoenix-Ilmor engine

And Dale Coyne will deliver on that by taking the Lola-Ilmor combination

EDIT: If possible, we'd like to run the #21 car as well this year for double the pay-driver fun

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 30 Apr 2015, 05:34

PacWest will go for a Reynard-Cosworth combination

FortiFord · Post by **FortiFord** » 30 Apr 2015, 07:56

I'd like to take Mo Nunn and use the Reynard-Ford package.

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 30 Apr 2015, 08:16

I'll take Andretti M with a Honda-Reynard combination

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 30 Apr 2015, 09:57

Wizzie wrote:
Biscione wrote:I will go down the RL route with Team Green and take Reynards.

I will also get down on my knees and beg Dale Coyne Racing to take the Phoenix-Ilmor engine

And Dale Coyne will deliver on that by taking the Lola-Ilmor combination

EDIT: If possible, we'd like to run the #21 car as well this year for double the pay-driver fun

I will see if it is possible to have 27(+1) cars at all the tracks we'll visit and then why not. They started the actual season with two cars.

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 30 Apr 2015, 10:12

Rahal goes for the Reynard-Ford combo.

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 30 Apr 2015, 10:21

Max Wilson is better than Senna.

#outofcontext

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Apr 2015, 10:32

Penske will use Reynard Honda

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 30 Apr 2015, 11:23

Rabbi Gordon wrote:
Reject_Dom wrote:Rahal goes for the Reynard-Ford combo.

Rabbi Gordon wrote:Phoenix-Ilmor - 0.7m
You will need a great wheelman if you want to race with this thing.
Low speed, low reliability, top kek. (1 team if someone is adventurous/rejectful enough.)

Then Max Wilson is better than Senna, if he managed to finish 4th with this thing
(and yes, Arciero also had an outdated chassis!!!)

They switched to a Cosworth at Milwaukee, Round 5. However, his practice times were amongst the top 10 in Long Beach.

Yeah, that is what I realized a couple minutes later, so I wiped it off and deleted it :mrgreen:

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 30 Apr 2015, 19:13

I'll take control of Sigma Autosport with a Reynard/Honda combo

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 30 Apr 2015, 19:26

Lola-Ford for Fernandez.

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 30 Apr 2015, 22:30

Each and every track can handle 27+1 starters, as they should.
Coyne's #21 will be allowed to start.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 01 May 2015, 05:00

Rabbi Gordon wrote:Each and every track can handle 27+1 starters, as they should.
Coyne's #21 will be allowed to start.

Let the paydriver fun begin

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 01 May 2015, 08:03

Michael is not an F1 reject due to his final podium, but even then I like him more than enough to drive at my/his team.

The only reason to not take that route would be Montermini, but, well.... nope.

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 01 May 2015, 09:54

GerhardTalger wrote:Michael is not an F1 reject due to his final podium, but even then I like him more than enough to drive at my/his team.

The only reason to not take that route would be Montermini, but, well.... nope.

El facepalmo. :facepalm:

How could I possibly forget that...
I have a provisional list of drivers who'd be available (atm, I have a lot of time both in school and at work.) and Montermini, albeit I thought of him, is not one of them. So Andretti, as he would only have driven for you, is signed.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 01 May 2015, 12:28

Trying to come up with a list of drivers I'd like for Team Green (PT is not one of them)...

"My Friend Dario
Has a super make of car
Drives too fast,
Drives to flash
Screeching on the tarmac,
Echoes in his head
Then, in his face,
Drives too fast,
Doesn't care about the crash"

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 01 May 2015, 12:33

Biscione wrote:Trying to come up with a list of drivers I'd like for Team Green (PT is not one of them)...

"My Friend Dario
Has a super make of car
Drives too fast,
Drives to flash
Screeching on the tarmac,
Echoes in his head
Then, in his face,
Drives too fast,
Doesn't care about the crash"

Was that in FIFA 05 or 06?

Dario is horribly overrated.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 01 May 2015, 12:57

Rabbi Gordon wrote:
Biscione wrote:Trying to come up with a list of drivers I'd like for Team Green (PT is not one of them)...

"My Friend Dario
Has a super make of car
Drives too fast,
Drives to flash
Screeching on the tarmac,
Echoes in his head
Then, in his face,
Drives too fast,
Doesn't care about the crash"

Was that in FIFA 05 or 06?
Dario is horribly overrated.

Don't know. I download the whole album OK Cowboy way back. My Friend Dario is only about the third or fourth best song on there. La Rock 01 easily the top track on that album.

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 01 May 2015, 16:05

I'll take battenhausen

Rabbi Gordon · Post by **Rabbi Gordon** » 01 May 2015, 16:13

RedEyes504 wrote:I'll take battenhausen

Please also place a bid for your chassis and engine. I want to do RNG for engines as soon as the last 2 teams get a manager.