pi314159 wrote:EDIT: Following a deal with Klon, the two chassis owned by Ecclestone will be transferred to OSCA. Hill will receive chassis 3, Vittorio Marzotto will use chassis 2. Umberto Marzotto is still looking for any modern (1956 or newer) chassis for the Italian GP.
As Musso is otherwise employed ART will seek Maria Teresa de Filippis to drive the car provided her current team give permission if not ART will stick Porfirio Rubirosa in the car
Hampshire Racing Alliance confirms the loan of O.S.C.A F156A chassis 16 to the works O.S.C.A team for the Italian Grand Prix
Motorsport Magazine, September 1957 wrote:Hampshire Hangs Up The Helmet
One of Formula One's more endearing and plucky competitors announced today that he will climb out of the cockpit for the final time after the Spanish Grand Prix next month. David Hampshire has had a presence on the grid since the first season of the championship in 1950, firstly with the controversial EXTRAS team. After EXTRAS folded Hampshire set up his own outfit, Hampshire Racing Alliance and has tasted occasional success over the years, scoring a total of 12 points between 1953 and 1955. His greatest moment came in early 1955, where he took advantage of a chaotic and brutal race at Reims to score a 2nd place finish at the French Grand Prix.
Hampshire Racing Alliance have also been known for a number of other quirks, which include racing Alta chassis long after the rest of the British diaspora had ceased using them. Since then, Hampshire has fielded Aston Martin, Bentley and Vanwall chassis whilst, unusually for a British privateer, signing a number of deals with the Italian O.S.C.A company for engines and spare parts. For the past few seasons, HRA have entered a second car for fellow British driver Roy Salvadori.
However, Hampshire was badly affected by the events of the past season, which saw four fellow drivers die in grisly fashion. It is also believed that there was an altercation before the start of the season between him and Salvadori, which is why the team have only fielded one car this year. It has been increasingly clear that Hampshire has fallen out of love with racing himself, with no less than three no-shows at European events this season.
Hampshire said "I have had a number of enjoyable years racing at the highest level in the world, but it is increasingly clear from the likes of Mike Hawthorn, Peter Collins and Jack Brabham that this is a young man's game. I turn 40 at the end of the year, and I wish to get involved in this revolution by giving more young men their chance to race in Formula One. It is a hard decision to stop, but I feel this is the right time. I will compete at Pedralbes next month, and that will be it. I will still be attending Formula One races, but I will be in the paddock or in the pit lane managing my team".
It is believed that Hampshire will be running young British driver Henry Taylor in 1958, with the possibility of a second car being entered as well. While Formula One will lose one of its respected old hands, the team he has built from scratch look to have a rosy future ahead.
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
Luigi Piotti 1-85: signs with Arzani-Volpini for his home race. 86-100: prefers to stick to sportscars. 49 - Piotti takes up the same job as 1956 for Arzani-Volpini.
Cesare Perdisa 1-20: comes out of retirement for one last shot at his home race. 21-100: maintains his self-imposed retirement after the death of Castellotti. 88 - Perdisa turns down the offer from ART.
Les Leston 1-75: takes the ART offer for a comeback. 76-100: turns down the offer and focuses on other commitments. 84 - Leston is also unimpressed by the superteam attempt and turns down the chance.
Georges Burggraf 1-95: takes the offer to make his first championship start in his usual F1 team. 96-100: thinks he's not ready for a Grand Prix drive. 75 - Burggraf does join the team, unlike his other potential teammates.
Willy Lehmann 1-80: takes Kubinsky's offer for a first F1 drive outside Eastern Europe 81-100: Lehmann is worried about possible retaliation from the GDR government and turns down the opportunity. 22 - Lehmann agrees to the deal without hesitation.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
BARC Members National @ Goodwood - Innes Ireland (S1.5) - Chris Bristow (S1.25) - Dick Fitzwilliam (Handicap) - Keith Greene (Handicap) - Ellis Cuff-Miller (Handicap) - I. McCulloch (Marque)
CSCC Pacific Coast Championship @ Arcata - Elof Carlson (CP) - Deno Vichas (DP/DM) - Pete Lovely (EM) - James Orr (EP) - Sam Weiss (FM) - Skip Hudson (FP) - Ralph Ormsbee (GM) - Prudence Crosby (GP) - Harry Byerly (HM) - Jack Dalton (MG) - Stan Peterson (Sedan)
CSCC Pacific Coast Championship @ Santa Barbara - Chuck Daigh (BM) - Don Hulette (CM) - Jerry Austin (CP) - Richie Ginther (DM) - Jack Bates (DP) - John Haggerty (EM) - Bill Love (EP) - Ken Miles (FM) - Elliot Forbes-Robinson (FP) - Jack Nethercutt (GM) - Bill Wheeler (GP) - Rico Verrecchia (HM) - Robert Brigham (MG) - Ruth Levy (Ladies) - Harry Morrow (F3)
SCCA Nationals @ Thompson - Leonard Butscher (BP) - Walt Hansgen (CM) - Harry Carter (CP/EP) - Paul O'Shea (DM) - Warren Cox (DP) - Gaston Andrey (EM) - Bob Holbert (FM) - Freddy Barrette (FP) - Frank Baptista (GM) - Tony Briggs (GP) - Candy Poole (HM) - John Meyer (UR) - Paul Richards (F3) - Alexis DuPont (F3)
MRC Autumn Meeting National @ Snetterton - George Wicken (Formula 2) - Tommy Bridger (Formula 3) - Tom Kyffin (S+2.7) - Ivor Bueb (S2.7/S1.1) - George Wicken (Formula Libre)
Shelsley Walsh Hill Climb - Phil Scragg
National Charterhall - Frank Elliot (S2.7) - F.V. Lambert (S+2.0) - Tom Dickson (S2.0/S1.2) - John Higham (S1.5) - Colin Murray (R+500) - Eric Liddell (Formula 3)
Thompson 1-hour Races - Leonard Butscher (BP) - Gordon MacKenzie (CM) - George Constantine (CP) - Bob Bucher (DM) - Mike Rothschild (DP) - Ed Welch (EP) - Paul Sagan (FM) - Freddie Barrette (FP) - Charles Cunningham (GM) - Vin Sardi (GP) - Candy Poole (HM) - Bill Rutan (UR)
Southern 500 @ Darlington (NASCAR Grand National) - Speedy Thompson
Ted Horn Memorial @ DuQuoin (USAC) - Jud Larson
NASCAR Grand National @ Syracuse - Gwyn Staley
Sunbac National @ Silverstone - David Shale (S+1.5) - M.G. Dickens (S1.5) - Eric Broadley (1172F) - Roy Lee (750F) - John Wagstaff (Handicap) - John Venn (Popular Sports)
Brighton Speed Trials (British Formula 3) - Malcolm Brackenbury
SCCA Nationals @ Road America - John Cook/Ralph Durbin (BM) - Dick Thompson (BP) - Phil Hill (CM) - Dave Causey (CP) - Paul O'Shea/Dick Thompson (DM) - Trant Jarman (DP) - Ed Lunken/Jim Kimberly (EM) - Bob Kuhn (EP) - Ed Crawford (FM) - Don Wester (FP) - M.R.J. Wyllie/Margaret Wyllie (GM) - Ed Hugus (GP) - Bruce Townsend (HM)
500km of Interlagos - Celso Lara Barberis/Ruggero Peruzzo
Coppa Inter-Europa @ Monza - Camillo Luglio (GT+2.6) - Enrico Anselmi (GT2.6) - Carlo Leto di Priolo (GT1.3) - Nino Merlo (GT1.1) - Mario Poltroniero (GT750)
NASCAR Grand National @ Weaverville - Lee Petty
Prescott Hill Climb - Phil Scragg (Overall) - Pauline Brock (Formula 3)
Danish Formula 3 @ Roskilde - Poul Rasmussen
NASCAR Grand National @ Sacramento - Danny Graves
Grand Prix de Cadours - André Loëns
Daily Express Trophy Meeting @ Silverstone - Jean Behra (International Trophy) - Stuart Lewis-Evans (Formula 3) - Roy Salvadori (S+2.7) - Brian Naylor (S2.7) - Ron Flockhart (S1.5) - Keith Hall (S1.1)
Hoosier Hundred @ Indianapolis (USAC) - Jud Larson
Circuito di Sassari - Luigi Bellucci
NASCAR Grand National @ San José - Marvin Porter
Torreón sportscar race - Ricardo Rodríguez
NASCAR Grand National @ Langhorne - Gwyn Staley
East German Formula 3 @ Bernau - Lex Beels
NASCAR Grand National @ Columbia - Buck Baker
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
September 20th 1957, Italian Grand Prix prequalifying
Brabham's retirement in Germany allowed Stirling Moss to pull away again in the championship race. The Briton is now 14 points ahead of the Australian with a maximum of 27 points still to take. Reliability has been on the side of O.S.C.A. this season, but the car is not bulletproof. Brabham has won every race he's finished however, so everything is still to play for. Peter Collins, Umberto Maglioli and José Froilán González are also still in mathematical contention, 19, 22 and 27 points behind respectively.
52 entries were sent in, with 50 of them materialising.
1. Peter Collins (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 1 2. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2 3. Mike Hawthorn (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 3 4. Jack Fairman (Owen Racing Organisation) - OSCA F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 3 5. Alan Stacey (Owen Racing Organisation) - OSCA F156A chassis 10, BRM P26 engine 4 6. Archie Scott Brown (Norfolk Engineering) - Vanwall VW56 chassis 6, Vanwall VE2 engine 4 7. Berardo Taraschi (Automobiles Deutsch & Bonnet) - DB 01 chassis 1, DB 84-1 engine 1 8. Gilberte Thirion (Escuderia Hernandez) - Hernandez Tipo 56 chassis 1, Hernandez H/258A engine 1 9. Heinz Melkus (MSG Köthen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 9, O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 8 10. Duncan Hamilton (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW57 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5 11. Lucien Bianchi (Scuderia Adriatica) - Lancia D50 chassis 4, Lancia DS50 engine 3 12. Luigi Piotti (Scuderia Arzani-Volpini) - Cooper T41 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 13 14. Yevgeny Veretov (Volga Testa Russo) - Volga NK1 chassis 1, Volga GZ1 engine 2 15. Zahar Shteyngrud (Volga Testa Russo) - Volga NK1 chassis 3, Volga GZ1 engine 4 16. B. Bira (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 10 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 1 17. Maurice Trintignant (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 10 chassis 7, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 2 18. Troy Ruttman (Rob Walker Racing) - B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 1 19. Robert Manzon (Gordini) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 3 20. Jo Bonnier (Gordini) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 2, Gordini G258/A engine 5 21. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Gordini) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 1 22. André Simon (Gordini) - Gordini Type 56 Chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2 23. Harry Schell (Alexander Racing Team) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 1, Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 1 24. Redmond Gallagher (Alexander Racing Team) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2, Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2 25. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Alexander Racing Team) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 7, Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 5 26. Georges Burgraff (Alexander Racing Team) - Bentley 53C chassis 1, Bentley 16VL-1 engine 11 27. Oliver Gendebien (Alexander Racing Team) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3 28. Jim Russell (Connaught Engineering) - Connaught Type B chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 9 29. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Connaught Engineering) - Connaught Type B chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 10 30. Hans Herrmann (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 12 31. Masten Gregory (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3 32. Luigi Musso (Scuderia Ugolini) - B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 9 33. Rob Slotemaker (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 1, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 1 34. Hans Davids (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 2, Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 10 35. Stirling Moss (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 14 36. Juan Manuel Fangio (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 5 37. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 7, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 6 38. Ottorino Volonterio (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 8, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 7 39. Willy Lehmann (Julius Kubinsky) - JK Mono IV chassis 1, Wartburg 310 engine 1 40. Onofre Marimón (Asso di Fiori) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 14, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 8 41. Umberto Maglioli (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 3, Ferrari DS50 engine 2 42. Tony Gaze (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 2, Ferrari DS50 engine 3 43. Giulio Cabianca (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 1, Ferrari DS50 engine 1 44. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari R560 chassis 4, Ferrari RS560 engine 4 45. Maria Anna Peduzzi (Maria Anna Peduzzi) - Ferrari R560 chassis 5, Ferrari RS560 engine 9 46. Gerino Gerini (Officine Alfieri Maserati) - Lotus 10 chassis 5, Maserati 56A engine 2 47. Giannino Marzotto (Scuderia Marzotto) Ferrari R560 chassis 1, Ferrari RS560 engine 7 48. Paolo Marzotto (Scuderia Marzotto) Ferrari R560 chassis 4, Ferrari RS560 engine 2 49. Vittorio Marzotto (Scuderia Marzotto) O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 4 50. Umberto Marzotto (Scuderia Marzotto) O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 5 51. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 12
-The German Grand Prix proved costly for Norfolk Engineering. A heavy accident from Russell and an engine failure for Scott Brown meant the team now only have one functioning car, which Archie Scott Brown is driving. Jim Russell was therefore allowed to drive the remaining races for Connaught, replacing Bruce Halford. -Lucien Bianchi may have Belgian nationality, but he was born in Milan. This explains his appearance for Adriatica instead of Giorgio Scarlatti. -Like in 1956, Luigi Piotti makes a one-off appearance driving a Cooper-O.S.C.A. for Arzani-Volpini. -After the Nürburgring once again highlighted the Volga's total lack of pace and their funds began to run low, the Soviet squad decided to only enter Veretov and Shteyngrud. -Following the announcement of the manufacturer's withdrawal from Formula One at the end of the year, Gordini will be fielding a mammoth nine cars, with a further two planned but abandoned after Les Leston and Cesare Perdisa turned down the opportunity. Aside from the usual trio, André Simon is returning to the team on loan from Écurie Voeckler. Under the ART banner, the team's reserve machinery is seeing use for the first time in a long while. Harry Schell, Redmond Gallagher and guest driver Maria Teresa de Filippis will be driving 1955 Alfa Romeos, junior driver Georges Burggraf drives a Bentley Formula 3 car and Olivier Gendebien is driving a Guidobaldi-Loonmotor combination. -Scuderia Ugolini, facing the prospect of entering a foreign driver in Italy, decided to bring back Luigi Musso instead of Jean Behra. -Graham Hill has finally recovered from his Monaco injury, and with O.S.C.A. unwilling to let Fangio go for the team's home race, he will be driving a fifth entry. -In the absence of an Eastern European round, Julius Kubinsky has entered the Italian Grand Prix due to the popularity of the Communist Party. East German F3 ace Willy Lehmann is to drive the JK Mono-Wartburg. -As it is the man's home race, and likely his last, Consalvo Sanesi will be stepping back into the Ferrari instead of Wolfgang von Trips. The roster for Spain has not yet been confirmed. -Italian female rally and road racer Maria Anna Peduzzi is making her first appearance in F1 machinery, driving a 1956 Ferrari. -Despite a lack of paddock presence for the previous two years, not only did Giannino Marzotto return for his home race, he brought his three brothers with him. Paolo already has F1 experience, having entered the race in 1954, and Vittorio competed in a non-championship race in 1952. Umberto, however, is making his F1 début. -Écurie Maghreb, suffering from a severe lack of funds, decided not to appear in this race. Their presence in Spain is also in question as they try to avoid bankruptcy. -As usual, some privateers can't afford the trip to the South of the continent. In this case, the unlucky couple are de Beaufort and his Ecurie Maarsbergen, as well as Helm Glöckler's Equipe Anglaise.
With 34 grid spots for the race, 16 drivers will face the prequalifying session.
Berardo Taraschi Luigi Piotti Yevgneny Veretov Zahar Shteyngrud Harry Schell Georges Burggraf Olivier Gendebien Luigi Musso Rob Slotemaker Hans Davids Willy Lehmann Anna Maria Peduzzi Giannino Marzotto Paolo Marzotto Vittorio Marzotto Umberto Marzotto
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Little surprise at the front, with Schell easily topping the session and all four Marzotto brothers easily prequalifying. Georges Burggraf, thanks to the power of Alexander Racing Team preparation, takes a four-year-old Bentley to the main qualifying session, while Willy Lehmann lost out to Luigi Piotti in the Cooper-O.S.C.A.. The Guidobaldis and Volgas bring up the rear as usual, even the Guidobaldi entered by ART.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Qualifying results 1. Stirling Moss (O.S.C.A.) - 2:41.49 2. Mike Hawthorn (B.C.M.A.) - 2:42.08 3. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - 2:42.14 4. Peter Collins (B.C.M.A.) - 2:45.46 5. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Gordini) - 2:46.08 6. André Simon (Gordini) - 2:46.99 7. Ottorino Volonterio (O.S.C.A.) - 2:47.19 8. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) - 2:48.42 9. Robert Manzon (Gordini) - 2:48.52 10. Juan Manuel Fangio (O.S.C.A.) - 2:48.65 11. Masten Gregory (O.S.C.A.) - 2:48.97 12. Umberto Maglioli (Ferrari) - 2:49.23 13. Alan Stacey (O.S.C.A.-BRM) - 2:49.40 14. Jo Bonnier (Gordini) - 2:50.11 15. Onofre Marimón (O.S.C.A.) - 2:51.09 16. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) - 2:51.97 17. Giulio Cabianca (Ferrari) - 2:52.10 18. Troy Ruttman (B.C.M.A.) - 2:52.36 19. Harry Schell (Alfa Romeo) - 2:52.55 20. B. Bira (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 2:53.88 21. Tony Gaze (Ferrari) - 2:54.21 22. Gilberte Thirion (Hernandez) - 2:54.57 23. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Connaught-O.S.C.A.) - 2:54.60 24. Heinz Melkus (O.S.C.A.) - 2:54.63 25. Consalvo Sanesi (Ferrari) - 2:54.66 26. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Alfa Romeo) - 2:54.76 27. Duncan Hamilton (Vanwall) - 2:54.83 28. Jack Fairman (O.S.C.A.-BRM) - 2:55.28 29. Maurice Trintignant (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 2:55.77 30. Hans Herrmann (O.S.C.A.) - 2:55.93 31. Archie Scott Brown (Vanwall) - 2:56.45 32. Jim Russell (Connaught-O.S.C.A.) - 2:59.15 33. Gerino Gerini (Lotus-Maserati) - 3:01.10 34. Paolo Marzotto (Ferrari) - 3:03.54 35. Giannino Marzotto (Ferrari) - 3:04.58 36. Vittorio Marzotto (O.S.C.A.) - 3:04.84 37. Luigi Piotti (Cooper-O.S.C.A.) - 3:05.49 38. Georges Burggraf (Bentley) - 3:06.05 39. Luigi Musso (B.C.M.A.) - 3:06.63 40. Lucien Bianchi (Lancia) - 3:06.79 41. Umberto Marzotto (O.S.C.A.) - 3:12.03 42. Redmond Gallagher (Alfa Romeo) - no time
B.C.M.A. have finally lost their grip on the pole position monopoly. After eight consecutive poles, the British constructor sets a 2-3-4 behind the championship leader Stirling Moss. Gordini sets a 5-6-9, with the other cars in the top ten being O.S.C.A. manufacturer entries. Masten Gregory and Alan Stacey impress once more, while Graham Hill makes the top 20 on his comeback. Only one of the Marzotto brothers makes the start, with Paolo two whole seconds behind Gerino Gerini's Lotus-Maserati. Piotti's under-prepared Cooper and Burggraf's Bentley F3 logically fail to qualify, while Bianchi had a bad session in his Lancia. Redmond Gallagher failed to set a time, his Alfa Romeo suffering from gearbox issues that prevented him from leaving the pitlane.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Gerini 40 Gaze 23 Bira 18 Thirion 17 Hawthorn 17 Collins 16 Volonterio 13 Bonnier 12 Maglioli 9 Moss 5 Marimón 5 Trintignant 3 Fangio 2 Manzon 1 Stacey 1 de Filippis 1 Schell -1 Melkus -2 Cabianca -4 González -4 Ramos -6 Hill -6 Ruttman -8 Brabham -9 Hamilton -10 Scott Brown -10 P. Marzotto -11 Lewis-Evans -11 Herrmann -15 Simon -16 Sanesi -16 Gregory -18 Fairman -19 Russell -24
The heat of Italy combined with the long straights and high speeds have made for a tough race on engines. There will be 7 engine failures and two accidents, a C2 and a C4. Only a total maximum of 9 cars will finish the race.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Moss and Hawthorn got the lead from the start of the race, while Peter Collins' engine autodetonated just after the first go around the oval. Hawthorn led the first lap from Moss, Brabham, Ramos and a fast-starting Alan Stacey. Troy Ruttman's customer B.C.M.A. engine also failed on the second lap. Moss remained aggressive, and on the third lap, he slipstreamed past Hawthorn to take the race lead for O.S.C.A.. Jim Russell, after a miserable race start, pulled into the pits on the fourth lap, missing second and fourth gears.
On the fifth lap, Hawthorn outbraked Moss at the Parabolica to take the race lead, only for his engine to start smoking on the very next lap, ending his race like Collins'. Moss inherited the lead again, with Brabham second and Fangio third. Paolo Marzotto and Archie Scott Brown then pulled into the pits from the last two positions, the former with an oil leak, the latter with brake issues. Later that same lap, it was Jack Brabham who crucially retired, with a burnt clutch. All three B.C.M.A. drivers had retired within the first ten laps, and all Moss had to do was win the race to seal the championship.
Jo Bonnier made a desperate attempt to pass B. Bira that same lap, but succeeded only in colliding with the grandstand wall when he touched Bira. He was followed on the sidelines by Manzon (transmission), Schell (fuel pump) and Herrmann (gearbox). The chronically unlucky Heinz Melkus also retired, puncturing his left rear tyre at the far end of the circuit. The following lap was punctuated by Stirling Moss' engine also falling victim to the veritable hecatomb. So much for sealing the title...
The unlikely Juan Manuel Fangio was left to take the race lead, defending from teammate José Froilán González. André Simon initially took third place, but soon lost it to Umberto Maglioli. Fangio lost the lead on the seventeenth lap, letting González through without offering much resistance. Behind them, Ramos retired from the race, depositing oil at the exit of Curva Grande. Volonterio saw the oil and slowed down, but still lost control and reversed into a tree. He walked away from his car, which had rebounded onto the circuit. On the next lap, Thirion, who was fighting for what was now fifth place, entered the corner blind, and when Alan Stacey dodged the O.S.C.A., Thirion had little time to react. She avoided Volonterio's car, but spun on the oil and skidded into the trees. The Hernandez was heavily damaged, but Gilberte walked out of the car and hobbled towards the ambulance.
When the situation ended and the cars were cleared, it transpired that Fangio had taken the lead again just past the halfway mark. González remained in second place ahead of Maglioli, Simon and the surprising Graham Hill and B. Bira. Bira, not taking kindly to Bonnier's earlier attempt at lèse-majesté, was a man on a mission, soon passing Simon, Hill and Maglioli to take third place by lap 20. Simon was soon coast to a halt with a cut throttle cable, joined by Gerino Gerini's Lotus-Maserati with steering issues. Gerini had been running in a creditable 13th place.
Fangio's grip on the lead slipped when his car began to slow down. González took the lead again on lap 23. Cabianca and Trintignant both retired with synchronised gearbox failures before Fangio's suspension gremlins became terminal. Bira inherited second place from Maglioli, Hill, Marimón and Gaze. A few laps later, Gregory retired from an anonymous eleventh place with yet another engine failure.
With González pulling away into the lead, Hill, Marimón and Gaze began to fight closely over fourth place. Alan Stacey would have been involved, but he suffered an electrical failure less than 10 laps from the end. Umberto Maglioli remained close behind Bira and passed him on lap 29, but unfortunately for him, his clutch failed just one lap later. While the fight grew tighter and the trio began catching Bira, González was setting fastest laps, but a handful of laps from the end, he started to slow down, saving fuel. These efforts came too late, and the ever-unlucky Argentine ultimately gave up the ghost with two laps remaining.
This left the good Prince Bira in the lead for the first time in a long while, but he now faced close competition from fellow customer entrant Onofre Marimón, Ferrari driver Tony Gaze in the twilight of his career and young rookie Graham Hill desperate to impress at his team's home race. All four drivers had their own reasons to give their all for the race victory. They traded the lead throughout the oval portion, with Marimón leading by a hair entering the road course section, ahead of Gaze, Hill and Bira. Suffering from tyre wear, Hill lost touch very slightly, leaving Gaze, Bira and Marimón to compete in the final drag race out of the Parabolica. In Formula One's closest finish yet, Marimón took a shock victory, just ahead of Bira and Gaze. Hill was fourth, just behind, while Maria Teresa de Filippis took fifth place in the old Alfa Romeo just ahead of Duncan Hamilton's Vanwall and Consalvo Sanesi's Ferrari. Fairman and Lewis-Evans were the last finishers, while the crestfallen González was classified in tenth.
Marimón's victory was the first for a truly independent customer team since Troy Ruttman's win at the 1952 Dutch Grand Prix.
1. Onofre Marimón (O.S.C.A.) 1:43:06.23 2. B. Bira (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +0.03 3. Tony Gaze (Ferrari) +0.07 4. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) +0.42 5. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Alfa Romeo) +1 lap 6. Duncan Hamilton (Vanwall) +1 lap 7. Consalvo Sanesi (Ferrari) +1 lap 8. Jack Fairman (O.S.C.A.-BRM) +1 lap 9. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Connaught-O.S.C.A.) +1 lap 10. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) +1 lap/Out of fuel Ret. Umberto Maglioli (Ferrari) +6 laps/Clutch Ret. Alan Stacey (O.S.C.A.-BRM) +9 laps/Electrics Ret. Juan Manuel Fangio (O.S.C.A.) +11 laps/Suspension Ret. Masten Gregory (O.S.C.A.) +11 laps/Engine Ret. Giulio Cabianca (Ferrari) +12 laps/Gearbox Ret. Maurice Trintignant (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +12 laps/Gearbox Ret. André Simon (Gordini) +13 laps/Throttle Ret. Gerino Gerini (Lotus-Maserati) +14 laps/Steering Ret. Gilberte Thirion (Hernandez) +18 laps/Accident Ret. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Gordini) +19 laps/Oil leak Ret. Ottorino Volonterio (O.S.C.A.) +19 laps/Accident Ret. Stirling Moss (O.S.C.A.) +22 laps/Engine Ret. Heinz Melkus (O.S.C.A.) +23 laps/Puncture Ret. Robert Manzon (Gordini) +24 laps/Transmission Ret. Harry Schell (Alfa Romeo) +24 laps/Fuel pump Ret. Hans Herrmann (O.S.C.A.) +24 laps/Gearbox Ret. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) +26 laps/Clutch Ret. Jo Bonnier (Gordini) +26 laps/Collision Ret. Paolo Marzotto (Ferrari) +26 laps/Oil leak Ret. Archie Scott Brown (Vanwall) +26 laps/Brakes Ret. Mike Hawthorn (B.C.M.A.) +30 laps/Engine Ret. Jim Russell (Connaught-O.S.C.A.) +32 laps/Gearbox Ret. Troy Ruttman (B.C.M.A.) +34 laps/Engine Ret. Peter Collins (B.C.M.A.) +35 laps/Engine
Fastest lap: José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) - 2:45:84
Championship standings Drivers 1. Stirling Moss - 41 2. Jack Brabham - 27 3. Peter Collins - 22 4. Umberto Maglioli - 19 5. Onofre Marimón - 14 (1 win) 6. José Froilán González - 14 (1 2nd) 7. André Simon - 12 8. Robert Manzon - 11 (1 win) 9. Mike Hawthorn - 11 (2 3rds) 10. Ottorino Volonterio - 10 11. Jo Bonnier - 9 12. B. Bira - 7 (1 2nd) 13. Duncan Hamilton - 7 (1 4th) 14. Tony Gaze - 4 15. Giulio Cabianca - 3 (1 4th, 2 7ths) 16. Graham Hill - 3 (1 4th, 2 Rets) 17. Juan Manuel Fangio - 3 (1 5th) 18. Masten Gregory - 2 (1 5th, 1 8th) 19. Maria Teresa de Filippis - 2 (1 5th, 2 11ths) 20. Troy Ruttman - 2 (1 5th, 1 11th) 21. Alan Stacey - 1 (1 6th, 1 7th) 22. Joe Flynn - 1 (1 6th, 1 Ret)
Post-race report Disqualification Hans Herrmann, after his retirement, was disqualified when illegal engine modifications were found after the race. (In actual fact, 1557 engine 12 was entered for both Hill and Herrmann. As the engine belongs to O.S.C.A., Herrmann got the wrong end of the stick in this case.)
Injuries Gilberte Thirion was injured in her accident, hitting her head on the Hernandez's steering wheel and her arm colliding with the tree her car hit. She is being treated for a concussion and broken right arm, and will miss the last few races of the season.
It is now time for undoubtedly the most important vote of the year: the 1958 calendar!
As with last year, to vote on the calendar, you may submit an ordered list of 10 circuits you wish to see on the championship calendar for 1958. Your top choice will get 10 points, your second choice 9 points, etc.
The top 8 circuits will automatically be included, with the following 3 subjected to a secondary yes-or-no vote.
You may also vote for two non-championship races you wish to see run during the off-season. These races will be used to try out potential new game mechanics.
The deadline for votes is August 26th 2017 at 3pm, CET.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
1. Indianapolis 500 2. US GP - Sebring 3. Singapore GP - Thomson Road 4. German GP - Deustchlandring 5. Italian GP - Monza (full layout) 6. Portuguese GP - Monsanto 7. Moroccan GP - Ain-Diab 8. British GP - Holyroodhouse (long layout) 9. Spanish GP - Pedralbes 10. France GP - Reims
NC races:
Argentine GP - Circuito Retiro Golden State Prix - San Francisco
1 500 GBP will be granted to whoever vote for these NC races.
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Pasta_maldonado wrote:I think normal32 is an old English farmer re-incarnated
1. Australian GP - Albert Park 2. British GP - Silverstone 3. German GP - Nurburgring Nordschleife 4. Italian GP - Monza 5. USA Grand Prix - Sebring 6. Monaco Grand Prix - Monaco 7. Portuguese GP - Monsanto 8. Singapore Grand Prix - Thomson Road 9. Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps 10. Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort
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Mario on Gutierrez after the Italian Grand Prix wrote:He's no longer just a bit of a tool, he's the entire tool set.
18-07-2015: Forever in our hearts Jules. 25-08-2015: Forever in our hearts Justin.
1. Australian GP - Albert Park 2. USA Grand Prix - Sebring 3. Singapore Grand Prix - Thomson Road 4. British GP - Brands Hatch 5. German GP - Deustchlandring 6. French GP - Pau 7. Monaco Grand Prix - Monaco 8. Portuguese GP - Monsanto 9. Irish Grand Prix - Wicklow 10. Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort
NC Races Argentine GP - Circuito Retiro Golden State Prix - San Francisco
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Biscione wrote:"Some Turkemenistani gulag repurposed for residential use" is the best way yet I've heard to describe North / East Glasgow.
1. Moroccan Grand Prix / Ain-Diab 2. Monaco Grand Prix / Monte-Carlo 3. French Grand Prix / Reims 4. German Grand Prix / AVUS 5. Dutch Grand Prix / Zandvoort 6. Portuguese Grand Prix / Boavista 7. Freedom Grand Prix / Sebring 8. Italian Grand Prix / Monza 9. British Grand Prix / Silverstone 10. Argentine Grand Prix / Buenos Aires
Mitch Hedberg wrote:I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Man, you really like Tide...
1. British Grand Prix - Snetterton 2. Moroccan Grand Prix - Ain-Diab 3. Murican Grand Prix - Road America 4. German Grand Prix - Nurburgring Südschleife 5. French Grand Prix - Reims 6. Irish Grand Prix - Wicklow 7. Spanish Grand Prix - Pedralbes 8. Belgian Grand Prix - Spa 9. Italian Grand Prix - Monza 10. London Grand Prix - Crystal Palace
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
*sees 20 votes for Indianapolis* Yep, democracy continues to be the worst possible method of drawing up a calendar. Well, time to be a hypocrite again...
Word of advice for anyone voting for an Irish Grand Prix: Wicklow ceased hosting motor racing events after 1957, and a Grand Prix there would almost certainly have brought these races to an even quicker end, what with costs and the hassle of closing important local thoroughfares for an extra weekend each year. There was a growing opposition to the races in real life and a Grand Prix would only have accelerated their demise. As an alternative, I would suggest this better attempt at drawing a triangle with roads (warning, it's a suspension-killer): http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... boyne.html
Non-championship races Gran Premio di Siracusa (Syracuse, classic way to open the international F1 season) BRDC International Trophy (Silverstone, the other classic way to open the international F1 season)
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Reason:Porto switched for Monsanto to avoid split preferences for Portuguese GP; Reims moved up to 2nd because the French GP appears, unthinkably, to be in danger; Zandvoort promoted; Watkins Glen swapped out for Kristianstad
1 Hungarian GP Nepliget Park. 2. Australian GP - Albert Park 3. Austrian GP - Zeltweg Aerodrome 4. British GP - Snetterton 5. Venezulan GP - Caracas 6. Italian GP - Pescara 7. French GP - St Etienne. 8. Portuguese GP - Monsanto Park 9 . Swedish GP - Kristianstad. 10 Dutch GP - Assen
Non Championship Races
Cuban GP - Malecon Avenue - Because does Fangio get kidnapped now? Dresden
Posting again for those who either missed it or refused to listen:
Simtek wrote:Word of advice for anyone voting for an Irish Grand Prix: Wicklow ceased hosting motor racing events after 1957, and a Grand Prix there would almost certainly have brought these races to an even quicker end, what with costs and the hassle of closing important local thoroughfares for an extra weekend each year. There was a growing opposition to the races in real life and a Grand Prix would only have accelerated their demise. As an alternative, I would suggest this better attempt at drawing a triangle with roads (warning, it's a suspension-killer): http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... boyne.html
Please, vote Dunboyne instead if you want Ireland on the calendar. Or Phoenix Park. Or vote to go to Finland or something.
Simtek wrote:Posting again for those who either missed it or refused to listen:
Simtek wrote:Word of advice for anyone voting for an Irish Grand Prix: Wicklow ceased hosting motor racing events after 1957, and a Grand Prix there would almost certainly have brought these races to an even quicker end, what with costs and the hassle of closing important local thoroughfares for an extra weekend each year. There was a growing opposition to the races in real life and a Grand Prix would only have accelerated their demise. As an alternative, I would suggest this better attempt at drawing a triangle with roads (warning, it's a suspension-killer): http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... boyne.html
Please, vote Dunboyne instead if you want Ireland on the calendar. Or Phoenix Park. Or vote to go to Finland or something.
Sorry about no paying attention properly :p I guess i'll alter on my votes for Dunboyne. I highly recommend all Wicklow entries to change for Dunboyne.
Just going to leave this here for the San Fran voters.
Gary Horstkorta wrote:Not everybody was enamoured, though. Environmentalists wielded power even then [1954] and the city fathers succumbed to their pressure to stop the races: too many people, too much noise, and damage to plants and trees. Racing cars were getting faster, too, increasing the chance of a big accident. The venue was consigned to history.
After a successful season, here's Scuderia Centro-Sud's preferred calendar.
1. Monaco Grand Prix - Circuit de Monaco 2. French Grand Prix - Rouen 3. Belgian Grand Prix - Spa 4. Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort 5. British Grand Prix - Silverstone 6. German Grand Prix - Nurburgring 7. Spanish Grand Prix - Pedrables 8. Italian Grand Prix - Monza 9. United States Grand Prix - Sebring 10. Argentine Grand Prix - Buenos Aires
Because the calendar is entirely at my whim, I decided the top 9 is locked in. There was a tie for 11th place, and because Monsanto had both more votes and the highest single vote, it wins out over Rouen.
1. Circuit de Monaco (Monaco Grand Prix) - 68 2. Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps (Belgian Grand Prix) - 56 3. Autodromo Nazionale Monza (Italian Grand Prix) - 52 4. Nürburgring Nordschleife (German Grand Prix) - 50 5. Silverstone Circuit (British Grand Prix) - 45 6. Ain-Diab Circuit (Moroccan Grand Prix) - 44 7. Sebring International Raceway (United States Grand Prix) - 44 8. Albert Park (Australian Grand Prix) - 38 9. Circuit Park Zandvoort (Dutch Grand Prix) - 38 10. Circuit de Reims-Gueux (French Grand Prix) - 29 11. Circuito de Monsanto (Portuguese Grand Prix) - 25 12. Circuit de Rouen-les-Essarts (Norman Grand Prix) - 25 13. Deutschlandring (East German Grand Prix) - 23 14. Snetterton Circuit (English Grand Prix) - 21 15. Indianapolis Motor Speedway (Indianapolis 500) - 20 16. Aintree Motor Racing Speedway (Aintree 200) - 20 17. Dunboyne Circuit (Irish Grand Prix) - 20 18. Thomson Road Circuit (Singaporean Grand Prix) - 19 19. Rabelövsbanan Kristianstad (Swedish Grand Prix) - 15 20. Road America (Great Lakes Grand Prix) - 13 21. Oulton Park (International Gold Cup) - 11 22. Crystal Palace Circuit (London Grand Prix) - 11 23. Wicklow Circuit (Leinster Trophy) - 10 24. Nepliget Park (Hungarian Grand Prix) - 10 25. Autódromo Municipal Ciudad de Buenos Aires (Argentine Grand Prix) - 10 26. Circuito de Pedralbes (Spanish Grand Prix) - 10 27. Brands Hatch (Kent Grand Prix) - 8 28. Zeltweg Air Base (Austrian Grand Prix) - 8 29. Circuito di Pescara (Coppa Acerbo) - 8 30. Sachsenring (Saxon Grand Prix) - 8 31. AVUS (AVUS Rennen) - 7 32. Nürburgring Südschleife (Rhineland Grand Prix) - 7 33. Goodwood Circuit (Sussex Grand Prix) - 7 34. Donington Park (Leicestershire Grand Prix) - 6 35. Autodromo Caracas (Venezuelan Grand Prix) - 6 36. Circuito da Boavista (Oporto Grand Prix) - 5 37. Circuit de Pau (Pau Grand Prix) - 5 38. Thruxton Circuit (Hampshire Grand Prix) - 5 39. Opatija Circuit (Yugoslavian Grand Prix) - 5 40. Circuit de Saint-Etienne (Auvergne Grand Prix) - 4 41. Holyroodhouse Street Circuit (Scottish Grand Prix) - 3 42. Watkins Glen (New England Grand Prix) - 2 43. Autodromo do Interlagos (Brazilian Grand Prix) - 2 44. TT Circuit Assen (Drenthe Circuit) - 1
You can vote on Reims and Monsanto for the next week.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
