The One-Car Championship

[watka]

Hi guys, yet another alternative championship for you to enjoy/abhor!

Inspired by the #2 Driver championship, I had the idea of running a championship where only one car from each team scores points. The applies to both the drivers and constructor championships. So if there is a 1-2, the 2nd driver in the team gets no points! That driver gets eliminated from the results and everyone else moves up a place. Basically, this championships gives extra benefit to anyone who follows the first rule of F1; beat your team mate!

I will be using the points systems as per the relevant championship. I however WILL NOT be following the best x number of results rules because a) I'm assuming that drivers will drop enough results for this not to be a problem, and b) I can't be bothered. If anyone is that much of a geek ( ) I can e-mail them the spreadsheets. Also the Indy 500 will not count, and drivers must actually finish the race to score points; a double DNF for a team means no points for either driver regardless of whether all the points paying positions are filled.


CHAMPIONS:
Italics indicate a different champion to real life

Drivers:
2010 - Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
2009 - Jenson Button (Brawn-Mercedes)
2008 - Lewis Hamilton (McLaren-Mercedes)
2007 - Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2006 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2005 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2004 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2003 - Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes)
2002 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2001 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2000 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
1999 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1998 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1997 - Jacques Villeneuve (Williams-Renault)
1996 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1995 - Michael Schumacher (Benetton-Renault)
1994 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1993 - Alain Prost (Williams-Renault)
1992 - Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault)
1991 - Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda)

Constructors:
2010 - Red Bull-Renault
2009 - Brawn-Mercedes
2008 - McLaren-Mercedes
2007 - Ferrari
2006 - Renault
2005 - McLaren-Mercedes
2004 - Ferrari
2003 - Ferrari
2002 - Ferrari
2001 - Ferrari
2000 - Ferrari
1999 - McLaren-Mercedes
1998 - McLaren-Mercedes
1997 - Williams-Renault
1996 - Williams-Renault
1995 - Benetton-Renault
1994 - Williams-Renault
1993 - Williams-Renault
1992 - Williams-Renault
1991 - McLaren-Honda

[watka]

By the way, do I really have to type out the standings, or is there a way to copy a table into a forum post?

[DemocalypseNow]

By the way, do I really have to type out the standings, or is there a way to copy a table into a forum post?

use (code)Table Content(/code) tags - but replace () with [] obviously.

Just a quick example I have to hand, my squad in manager mode on Fifa...

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DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE

2010/11 SQUAD

NO POS NAME                   NAT OVR  AGE PRICE      FROM                DATE   STATUS
1  GK  Lukasz Fabianski       POL (82) 25  £850,000   Arsenal             Aug 09
2  CB  Simon Ireland          AUS (90) 20  £1,100,000 Adelaide United     Aug 09
4  CDM Ludovic Asuar          FRA (69) 33  £20,000    AC Ajaccio          Aug 08
5  LB  Pierre Womé            CAM (79) 31  £FREE      1. FC Köln          Aug 10
6  CAM Kim Källström          SWE (86) 28  £FREE      Lyon                Aug 10
7  CM  John Obi Mikel         NIG (91) 23  £3,100,000 Chelsea             Aug 09
9  CF  Alexander Farneurd     SWE (76) 26  £FREE      Brøndby IF          Aug 10
12 ST  Andrea Caracciolo      ITA (76) 28  £FREE      Brescia             Aug 10
13 CAM Carlos Alberto         BRA (83) 25  £FREE      Vasco Da Gama       Aug 09
14 GK  Martin Östlind         SWE (83) 23  £700,000   N/A                 Feb 10
15 LWB Gilberto Do Carmo      BRA (82) 18  £1,800,000 Sport Recife        Aug 10
NA GK  Jérémy Gavanon         FRA (69) 26  £90,000    FC Sochaux          Jan 09 OUT ON LOAN [Sheffield United]
16 LM  Joe Ledley             WAL (77) 23  £250,000   Cardiff City        Jan 10
17 CB  Cala                   ESP (80) 20  £60,000    Sevilla FC          Aug 09
18 CDM Nenad Kovacevic        SER (78) 29  £FREE      RC Lens             Aug 10
19 CF  Danny Wellbeck         ENG (69) 19  £280,000   Manchester United   Aug 10
20 CB  Slobodan Rajkovic      SER (88) 21  £190,000   Chelsea             Aug 08
21 ST  Gonzalo Higuaín        ARG (81) 22  £3,500,000 Real Madrid         Aug 10
25 RF  Thomas Müller          GER (71) 20  £100,000   FC Bayern Munich    Aug 09
26 CM  Yoann Gourcuff         FRA (92) 24  £890,000   FC Bordeaux         Jan 09
28 GK  Albert Jorquera        ESP (76) 30  £180,000   FC Barcelona        Jan 09
29 LB  Ibrahima Sory Camara   GUI (84) 25  £630,000   Le Mans UC72        Jan 09
34 CB  Mark Arber             RSA (63) 33  N/A        N/A                 N/A
37 RM  Mauro Camoranesi       ITA (86) 33  £FREE      Juventus            Aug 10
39 RB  Davide Santon          ITA (69) 19  £115,000   Internazionale      Jan 10
41 ST  Federico Macheda       ITA (75) 19  £110,000   Manchester United   Jan 09
43 ST  Piergiuseppe Maritato  ITA (86) 21  £190,000   ACF Fiorentina      Aug 08
49 CM  Yaya Toure             COT (89) 27  £FREE      FC Barcelona        Aug 09
51 CB  Marc Torrejón          ESP (85) 24  £FREE      Racing de Santander Aug 09
56 CB  Zé Castro              POR (78) 27  £FREE      Deportivo La Coruna Aug 10
87 CM  Teko Modise            RSA (86) 27  £FREE      Orlando Pirates     Aug 09
96 ST  Libor Došek            SER (71) 32  £FREE      Sparta Prague       Jan 10

When you first paste it into the text box when posting it all looks messy and unaligned...just make sure you paste it into Notepad first and align it all properly before pasting it into here.

[James1978]

So is this where, say - in this year's German GP, Ferrari would have said to Massa "OK, we want Fernando to score our teams' points this time"!!! Could be interesting!!!

[Pieman]

I actually thought of doing something similar a while ago - but instead of just one driver scoring, have the two drivers share a car along the lines of sportscar racing. (It would need some thought as to how the points would work (both drivers scoring the same points for their position or not, for example) and what would happen when a team enters more than two drivers as happened in years gone by. I'm still up for trying this method if I have time, and any ideas would be appreciated.)

Sorry to hijack the thread slightly - carry on.

[watka]

I actually thought of doing something similar a while ago - but instead of just one driver scoring, have the two drivers share a car along the lines of sportscar racing. (It would need some thought as to how the points would work (both drivers scoring the same points for their position or not, for example) and what would happen when a team enters more than two drivers as happened in years gone by. I'm still up for trying this method if I have time, and any ideas would be appreciated.)

Sorry to hijack the thread slightly - carry on.

Go for it my friend. I'm all up for plagiarism!

Anyway, first up is 2010 (that's what everyone else seems to be doing first). I predicted that Alonso might when this one before I drew up the results, so let's see...

2010

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Fernando Alonso         Ferrari                 244     5       5       1
Sebastian Vettel        Red Bull-Renault        214     5       2       3
Lewis Hamilton          McLaren-Mercedes        213     3       5       2
Robert Kubica           Renault                 162     -       2       2
Nico Rosberg            Mercedes                150     -       2       2
Mark Webber             Red Bull-Renault        140     4       2       -
Jenson Button           McLaren-Mercedes        114     2       1       2
Rubens Barrichello      Williams-Cosworth       74      -       -       1
Adrian Sutil            Force India-Mercedes    66      -       -       -
Michael Schumacher      Mercedes                59      -       -       3
Felipe Massa            Ferrari                 54      -       -       2
Kamui Kobayashi         BMW Sauber-Ferrari      46      -       -       -
Jaime Alguersuari       Toro Rosso-Ferrari      37      -       -       -
Vitantonio Liuzzi       Force India-Mercedes    35      -       -       -
Nico Hulkenberg         Williams-Cosworth       34      -       -       -
Sebastien Buemi         Toro Rosso-Ferrari      31      -       -       -
Vitaly Petrov           Renault                 18      -       -       1
Heikki Kovalainen       Lotus-Cosworth          17      -       -       -
Pedro de la Rosa        BMW Sauber-Ferrari      12      -       -       -
Karun Chandhok          HRT-Cosworth            5       -       -       -
Timo Glock              Virgin-Cosworth         5       -       -       -
Lucas di Grassi         Virgin-Cosworth         5       -       -       -
Jarno Trulli            Lotus-Cosworth          4       -       -       -
Nick Heidfeld           BMW Sauber-Ferrari      4       -       -       -
Bruno Senna             HRT-Cosworth            3       -       -       -
Christian Klien         HRT-Cosworth            0       -       -       -
Sakon Yamamoto          HRT-Cosworth            0       -       -       -

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Red Bull-Renault        354
McLaren-Mercedes        327
Ferrari                 298
Mercedes                209
Renault                 180
Williams-Cosworth       108
Force India-Mercedes    101
Toro Rosso-Ferrari      68
BMW Sauber-Ferrari      62
Lotus-Cosworth          21
Virgin-Cosworth         10
HRT-Cosworth            8

Indeed, Alonso does win this one, and by a relatively comfortable margin. Fernando raps it up with a 2nd place in Brazil as Red Bull suffer for letting their drivers battle it out for the title. After 10 rounds, Alonso was 40 points behind Hamilton in 6th in the championship. Hamilton's nearest rival at that point was actually Robert Kubica, 23 points behind! Hamilton's retirement saw his championship lead eroded (Japan and Italy being crucial), whilst Alonso scored 1st or 2nd in 5 of the final 6 races. Kubica's challenge fall behind as a few retirements slipped in, whilst Vettel did the opposite. Webber, Button, and Massa particularly suffer, the latter almost being beaten by Kobayashi!

In the constructors, not too much change, but Renault are much closer to Mercedes, and Toro-Rosso surprisingly overtake BMW Sauber (they benefited as they finished just outside the points quite often in real life).

[dr-baker]

And Karun Chandok the second best of all new team drivers! Equal on points as the two Virgins, and ahead of all HRTs and a Lotus. To rehash a dying phrase, "Go home, Colin Kolles", or, even better, "Do a better job, Colin Kolles!"

[watka]

2009

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Driver                  Team                            Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Jenson Button           Brawn-Mercedes                  88      6       2       -
Sebastian Vettel        Red Bull-Renault                61      4       1       1
Kimi Raikkonen          Ferrari                         57      1       3       1
Mark Webber             Red Bull-Renault                53.5    2       2       2
Nico Rosberg            Williams-Toyota                 51.5    -       -       1
Lewis Hamilton          McLaren-Mercedes                50      2       1       2
Fernando Alonso         Renault                         44      -       -       3
Rubens Barrichello      Brawn-Mercedes                  33      2       1       -
Jarno Trulli            Toyota                          32      -       2       2
Nick Heidfeld           BMW Sauber                      26      -       1       1
Timo Glock              Toyota                          25      -       1       1
Felipe Massa            Ferrari                         24      -       1       1
Robert Kubica           BMW Sauber                      23      -       1       -
Heikki Kovalainen       McLaren-Mercedes                19      -       -       1
Sebastien Buemi         Toro Rosso-Ferrari              15      -       -       -
Giancarlo Fisichella    Ferrari/Force India-Mercedes    13      -       1       -
Adrian Sutil            Force India-Mercedes            10      -       -       1
Kamui Kobayashi         Toyota                          7       -       -       -
Sebastien Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari              4.5     -       -       -
Nelson Piquet Jr        Renault                         3       -       -       -
Kazuki Nakajima         Williams-Toyota                 3       -       -       -
Vitantonio Liuzzi       Force India-Mercedes            1       -       -       -
Luca Badoer             Ferrari                         0       -       -       -
Romain Grosjean         Renault                         0       -       -       -
Jaime Alguersuari       Toro Rosso-Ferrari              0       -       -       -

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Brawn-Mercedes          121
Red Bull-Renault        114.5
Ferrari                 81
McLaren-Mercedes        69
Toyota                  64
Williams-Toyota         54.5
BMW Sauber              49
Renault                 47
Force India-Mercedes    24
Toro Rosso-Ferrari      19.5

Jenson Button's early season dominance sees him coast to the 2009 championship. After 7 races, his advantage over 2nd placed Webber was 37.5 points, having taken 6 wins and 1 second. He won the championship at Japan. Going into the race, Raikkonen was his only challenger, and he effectively needed to win the last 3 rounds, with Button not scoring. As it was Kimi Raikkonen could be pleased with 3rd in the championship, dominating the Ferrari partnership after Massa's accident in Hungary. Likewise, Nico Rosberg's total dominance over Nakajima is reflected with 5th place. Barrichello did terribly under this system, as did both McLarens.

Brawn still get the better of Red Bull in the constructors. McLaren suffer badly after some awful results at the start of the season, and losing out on a haul of Kovalainen points later on. Williams leapfrog BMW Sauber, who in turn almost fell into the clutches of Renault, despite a terrible year for the French squad.

[James1978]

I like Heidfeld being infront of Kubica.

And how on earth does Piquet Jr score points? I don't ever recall him being near Alonso!

[watka]

I like Heidfeld being infront of Kubica.

And how on earth does Piquet Jr score points? I don't ever recall him being near Alonso!

2 12ths in GB and Hungary got converted into 7th and 8th. He beat Alonso in GB and Alonso retired in Hungary.


2008

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Lewis Hamilton          McLaren-Mercedes        92      5       3       2
Felipe Massa            Ferrari                 89      6       1       2
Robert Kubica           BMW Sauber              75      1       4       4
Fernando Alonso         Renault                 69      2       1       1
Sebastian Vettel        Toro-Rosso Ferrari      48      1       -       1
Mark Webber             Red Bull-Renault        43      -       -       -
Kimi Raikkonen          Ferrari                 40      2       -       2
Nick Heidfeld           BMW Sauber              39      -       3       -
Heikki Kovalainen       McLaren-Mercedes        38      1       1       3
Jarno Trulli            Toyota                  38      -       1       -
Timo Glock              Toyota                  31      -       1       1
Nico Rosberg            Williams-Toyota         30      -       1       1
Rubens Barrichello      Honda                   16      -       -       1
Nelson Piquet Jr        Renault                 13      -       1       -
David Coulthard         Red Bull-Renault        13      -       1       -
Jenson Button           Honda                   10      -       -       -
Kazuki Nakajima         Williams-Toyota         9       -       -       -
Sebastien Bourdais      Toro-Rosso Ferrari      4       -       -       -
Giancarlo Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari     2       -       -       -
Takuma Sato             Super Aguri-Honda       0       -       -       -
Anthony Davidson        Super Aguri-Honda       0       -       -       -
Adrian Sutil            Force India-Ferrari     0       -       -       -

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McLaren-Mercedes        130
Ferrari                 129
BMW Sauber              114
Renault                 82
Toyota                  69
Red Bull-Renault        56
Toro-Rosso Ferrari      52
Williams-Toyota         39
Honda                   26
Force India-Ferrari     2
Super Aguri-Honda       0

No last corner drama at Brazil here. Hamilton has an 8 point advantage (7 in real life) going into the final race, but with Raikkonen's result being eliminated, Hamilton wouldn't have needed to pass Glock with Trulli and Kovalainen both behind him, and a long way back to Webber who take 6th. Kubica's championship ambitions under in China. Vettel had a stellar season due to his dominance over Bourdais, whilst Raikkonen suffered badly playing second fiddle to Massa.

In the constructors, the last corner pass at Brazil does matter. With Massa's Brazil win, Ferrari have 8 wins to McLaren's 6, so Hamilton reacted instantly by passing Glock for the deciding point! As above, Ferrari suffered due to the mass of points that Raikkonen lost. BMW Sauber are not too far behind, whilst the only other change in Red Bull leapfrogging sister team Toro Rosso.

[James1978]

This is great!!

The only downside for me, if there is one, is that they aren't going to be any "alternative" race winners. But it's a great read nevertheless!

And at Webber ahead of Raikkonen in 2008 (Red Bull sucked that year I thought!!!).

[watka]

That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!

[Pieman]

That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!

It would make DBTMOTY a lot easier to decide!

[Bleu]

That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!

Especially have to look Barrichello in 2004/2002 and Patrese in 1992!

[James1978]

That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!

Especially have to look Barrichello in 2004/2002 and Patrese in 1992!

Ahem......Johnny Dumfries. Satoru Nakajima in 1987. Johnny Herbert has been champion in 1995 in Elimination ones (both backwards and forwards), he'll struggle to even get points in this (he'll only score if Schumacher retired which is very rare)!! Oh and Damon Hill in 1999.

Fisichella probably does really crap in 2005 and 2006 too.

[watka]

2007

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Driver                  Team                            Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Kimi Raikkonen          Ferrari                         94      6       3       1
Fernando Alonso         McLaren-Mercedes                88      4       6       -
Lewis Hamilton          McLaren-Mercedes                64      4       3       -
Nick Heidfeld           BMW Sauber                      58      -       1       7
Felipe Massa            Ferrari                         54      3       3       -
Heikki Kovalainen       Renault                         47      -       1       1
Nico Rosberg            Williams-Toyota                 40      -       -       1
Robert Kubica           BMW Sauber                      32      -       -       3
Giancarlo Fisichella    Renault                         25      -       -       1
David Coulthard         Red Bull-Renault                23      -       -       -
Mark Webber             Red Bull-Renault                22      -       -       1
Alexander Wurz          Williams-Toyota                 21      -       -       1
Jarno Trulli            Toyota                          19      -       -       -
Ralf Schumacher         Toyota                          16      -       -       -
Rubens Barrichello      Honda                           15      -       -       -
Jenson Button           Honda                           13      -       -       -
Takuma Sato             Super Aguri-Honda               10      -       -       -
Sebastian Vettel        BMW Sauber/Toro Rosso-Ferrari   9       -       -       1
Vitantonio Liuzzi       Toro Rosso-Ferrari              4       -       -       -
Scott Speed             Toro Rosso-Ferrari              3       -       -       -
Adrian Sutil            Spyker-Ferrari                  3       -       -       -
Anthony Davidson        Super Aguri-Honda               2       -       -       -
Christjian Albers       Spyker-Ferrari                  1       -       -       -
Kazuki Nakajima         Williams-Toyota                 0       -       -       -
Markus Winkelhock       Spyker-Ferrari                  0       -       -       -
Sakon Yamamoto          Spyker-Ferrari                  0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 148
BMW Sauber              93
Renault                 72
Williams-Toyota         61
Red Bull-Renault        45
Toyota                  35
Honda                   28
Toro Rosso-Ferrari      13
Super Aguri-Honda       12
Spyker-Ferrari          4
McLaren-Mercedes        DSQ (152)

A surprisingly comfortable championship win for Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen seized the championship lead after Japan, Hamilton went out of the championship after his epic fail in China, and then Alonso couldn't beat Raikkonen in Brazil. Alonso was the better of the two Macca drivers to the extent that Hamilton was almost beaten by Heidfeld, who scored a ridiculous 7 3rd places. Felipe Massa suffered by playing second fiddle to Kimi towards the end of the season.

In the constructors, Ferrari still take a comfortable victory, and would still win if McLaren ban was reversed (after the Hungarian GP is applied). Honda passed Toro Rosso in the only move in the constructors rankings.

[James1978]

I'm absolutely stunned with how much Alonso beats Hamilton by there to be honest! I always though the championship would be Kimi's but they'd hardly be anything between the McLarens!!

[FullMetalJack]

I'll do 2006 just to keep the ball rolling. Trulli and Rosberg didn't score until the Nurburgring. Liuzzi was outscoring Massa after Monaco. After Canada, Heidfeld was 5th in the championship whilst Massa was 16th. Before Montoya left, he was 7th in the standings with 20 points. Only 7 drivers scored points at Indianapolis. Heidfeld was up to 4th after France. Only 7 drivers scored points as Hockenheim as well. Massa was down to 18th in the standings after Hockenheim. Tiago Monteiro didn't score until Hungary. David Coulthard was up to 6th after Hungary. In the end, Fisichella wins DBTMOTY as Alonso outscores him by 100 points. The Constructors Championship stays the same order.

Fernando Alonso 123 (7 wins 5 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 105 (7 wins 4 2nd)
Kimi Raikkonen 69 (3 2nd 5 3rd)
Jenson Button 68 (1 win 2 2nd 4 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 39 (1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 36 (2 wins 1 2nd)
Ralf Schumacher 28 (2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 28 (1 3rd)
David Coulthard 27 (1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 23 (1 win 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 22
Juan Pablo Montoya 20 (1 2nd 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 20
Pedro De La Rosa 18 (1 2nd)
Nico Rosberg 13
Vitantonio Liuzzi 12
Robert Kubica 11 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 10
Jacques Villeneuve 9
Scott Speed 9
Takuma Sato 3
Tiago Monteiro 2
Christijan Albers 2
Robert Doornbos 2

Renault 146
Ferrari 141
McLaren Mercedes 107
Honda 90
BMW Sauber 59
Toyota 56
Red Bull Ferrari 39
Williams Cosworth 33
STR Cosworth 21
MF1 Toyota 4
Super Aguri Honda 3

[TomWazzleshaw]

So Fisichella was beaten by a McLaren, a Honda, a BMW, BOTH Toyotas and a Red Bull... I think an epic fail award is in order.

[watka]

Cheers for carrying some of this on mate. I'll do some more soon honest!

[FullMetalJack]

I'm enjoying this and finding it interesting so...

2005

Fernando Alonso 124 (7 wins 6 2nd 1 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 92 (7 wins 3 2nd 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 68 (1 win 3 2nd 2 3rd)
Jenson Button 53 (4 3rd)
Juan Pablo Montoya 51 (3 wins 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 47 (2 2nd 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 39 (1 3rd)
Mark Webber 39 (1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 37 (2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 35 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 30 (2 2nd 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 26 (1 2nd 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 21 (1 win 1 2nd)
Tiago Monteiro 16 (1 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 14
Christjian Albers 9 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 9
Alexander Wurz 6 (1 3rd)
Antonio Pizzonia 5
Narain Karthikeyan 4
Vitantonio Liuzzi 2
Robert Doornbos 1

McLaren Mercedes 149
Renault 145
Ferrari 94
Toyota 84
Williams BMW 74
BAR Honda 53
Red Bull Cosworth 50
Sauber Petronas 49
Jordan Toyota 20
Minardi Cosworth 10

Alonso sealed the championship at Spa, holding a 32 point advantage over Kimi Raikkonen with 3 races to go.
The Constructors Championship's only change is between McLaren and Renault with the silver cars taking top spot.
Before Heidfeld's season ended, he was leading Webber 30-23 in points.
Monteiro and Albers unrejectified themselves at Indianapolis.
Pizzonia unrejectified himself at Monza.
Klien unrejectified himself at Shanghai.
The only drivers who failed to score were Sato, De La Rosa and Freisacher.

[TomWazzleshaw]

Fisichella has just reached a new level of pathetic

Then again he did have a certain Spaniad as his teammate...

[watka]

I've got some decent time off work now RedBullJack, so I can carry it on if you want, otherwise feel free to continue!

[FullMetalJack]

I've got some decent time off work now RedBullJack, so I can carry it on if you want, otherwise feel free to continue!

I'll probably be quite busy anyway, but I figured out HWNSNBM will score at least 6 points

[James1978]

2003 should be interesting as Michael Schumacher only has a couple of points to play with over Raikkonen, and I think DC finished ahead of Kimi less than Rubens finished infront of Michael that year........

[FullMetalJack]

2003 should be interesting as Michael Schumacher only has a couple of points to play with over Raikkonen, and I think DC finished ahead of Kimi less than Rubens finished infront of Michael that year........

I can't see Williams taking the driver's championship as both drivers were championship contenders. The constructors standings should be interesting, especially between BAR, Sauber, Jaguar, Toyota and possibly Jordan.

[watka]

Just realised that Takuma Sato was at BAR in 2005, so it's pathetic that didn't get any points whilst Button got 53! Coulthard also seems to have done reasonably well in each year that he spent at Red Bull.

[FullMetalJack]

Just realised that Takuma Sato was at BAR in 2005, so it's pathetic that didn't get any points whilst Button got 53! Coulthard also seems to have done reasonably well in each year that he spent at Red Bull.

Yeah, even Robert Doornbos got a point and Albers got 3 without the Indy podium

[watka]

2004

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                 138     13      1       -
Jenson Button           BAR-Honda               98      -       8       4
Juan Pablo Montoya      Williams-BMW            61      1       1       3
Fernando Alonso         Renault                 52      -       3       1
Jarno Trulli            Renault/Toyota          50      1       1       3
Kimi Raikkonen          McLaren-Mercedes        49      1       2       1
Giancarlo Fisichella    Sauber-Petronas         47      -       -       1
Rubens Barrichello      Ferrari                 32      2       -       2
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes        29      -       -       -
Mark Webber             Jaguar-Cosworth         27      -       -       -
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-BMW            24      -       1       1
Takuma Sato             BAR-Honda               18      -       1       1
Olivier Panis           Toyota                  17      -       -       -
Felipe Massa            Sauber-Petronas         16      -       -       1
Christian Klien         Jaguar-Cosworth         13      -       -       -
Cristiano da Matta      Toyota                  9       -       -       -
Nick Heidfeld           Jordan-Ford             8       -       -       -
Zsolt Baumgartner       Minardi-Cosworth        6       -       -       -
Timo Glock              Jordan-Ford             4       -       -       -
Ricardo Zonta           Toyota                  1       -       -       -
Marc Gene               Williams-BMW            0       -       -       -
Antonio Pizzonia        Williams-BMW            0       -       -       -
Jacques Villeneuve      Renault                 0       -       -       -
Giorgio Pantano         Jordan-Ford             0       -       -       -
Gianmaria Bruni         Minardi-Cosworth        0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 170
BAR-Honda               116
Renault                 98
Williams-BMW            85
McLaren-Mercedes        78
Sauber-Petronas         63
Jaguar-Cosworth         40
Toyota                  31
Jordan-Ford             12
Minardi-Cosworth        6

As you'd expect, Schumi has no problems winning the championship, and Barrichello suffers for it. Button gets closer to Schumacher, but still obviously gets no wins, so the title is over by Belgium (the 14th race). Montoya jumps Alonso, benefiting from weak stand in teammates (Gene and Pizzonia). Trulli would have probably beaten Alonso too had he not been thrown out of Renault. Barrichello finished down in 8th with only 4 points finishes, all being on the podium. Zsolt Baumgartner grabbed himself an impressive 3 points finishes to boost his points to 8 (vs 0 for Bruni).

No changes in the constructors, the gaps are similar. Toyota's poor performance probably goes to show that Trulli and Ralf Schumacher did actually bring some benefit to the team in the following years, more than they are given credit for.

[FullMetalJack]

What this goes to show is how underrated Fisichella was in 2004, would have been my driver of the year were it not for Schumacher and Button.

[Salamander]

Toyota's poor performance probably goes to show that Trulli and Ralf Schumacher did actually bring some benefit to the team in the following years, more than they are given credit for.

To be fair, you couldn't do much worse than Cristiano da Matta and Olivier Panis in 2004.

[watka]

2003

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Driver                  Team                             Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Kimi Raikkonen          McLaren-Mercedes                 89      1       7       3
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                          88      6       1       2
Juan Pablo Montoya      Williams-BMW                     60      2       3       2
Fernando Alonso         Renault                          55      1       1       4
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-BMW                     48      2       1       1
Rubens Barrichello      Ferrari                          36      2       2       -
Mark Webber             Jaguar-Cosworth                  36      -       -       -
Jenson Button           BAR-Honda                        34      -       -       2
Jarno Trulli            Renault                          29      -       -       1
Cristiano da Matta      Toyota                           23      -       -       -
Nick Heidfeld           Sauber-Petronas                  21      -       -       -
Heinz Harald Frentzen   Sauber-Petronas                  19      -       -       1
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes                 18      1       1       -
Giancarlo Fisichella    Jordan-Ford                      18      1       -       -
Jacques Villeneuve      BAR-Honda                        15      -       -       -
Olivier Panis           Toyota                           15      -       -       -
Ralph Firman            Jordan-Ford                      9       -       -       -
Justin Wilson           Minardi-Cosworth/Jaguar-Cosworth 4       -       -       -
Jos Verstappen          Minardi-Cosworth                 4       -       -       -
Antonio Pizzonia        Jaguar-Cosworth                  1       -       -       -
Marc Gene               Williams-BMW                     0       -       -       -
Zsolt Baumgartner       Jordan-Ford                      0       -       -       -
Takuma Sato             BAR-Honda                        0       -       -       -
Nicolas Kiesa           Minardi-Cosworth                 0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 124
Williams-BMW            108
McLaren-Mercedes        107
Renault                 84
BAR-Honda               49
Sauber-Petronas         40
Jaguar-Cosworth         39
Toyota                  38
Jordan-Ford             27
Minardi-Cosworth        6

Perhaps surprisingly, Kimi Raikkonen manages to nab the title from Schumacher! Raikkonen does a Rosberg by winning the title with only one race win, but with a bewildering amount of 2nd and 3rd places. Schumacher is simply not consistent enough and throws away a 7 point lead going into the last race as Barrichello can do nothing to help his teammate. As can be seen Coulthard was smashed by Raikkonen, beating him home only 3 times in the whole season and ending up 13th in the rankings (7th in real life). The Williams teammates were too competitive with each other to build up a meaningful title challenge. Both Alonso and Webber had impressive seasons. Ralph Firman scored 9 more points than he deserved.

Ferrari's constructors title was more comfortable here than in real life. There were no changes in the standings.

[James1978]

Wow, I called it!

I can only think of one race where Coulthard would have stooped Kimi from scoring (Australia), but there's at least three off the top of my head where Barrichello stops Schumacher from scoring (Japan, Silverstone, Malaysia).

Wonder if something similar could happen in 1987 (Mansell and Piquet being quite equal could let in Senna or Prost, as in 1986), or even Hill/Villeneuve let in Schumacher or even Alesi 1n 1996?

Think Senna and Prost are safe in 1988 and 89 though.

[watka]

Now back to the 10-6-4-3-2-1 points structure. There should be no problem with being able to hand out all the points now!

2002

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Driver                  Team                            Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                         122     11      2       -
Juan Pablo Montoya      Williams-BMW                    48      -       6       3
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes                47      1       2       4
Rubens Barrichello      Ferrari                         40      4       -       -
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-BMW                    38      1       3       2
Kimi Raikkonen          McLaren-Mercedes                26      -       3       2
Jenson Button           Renault                         21      -       -       2
Giancarlo Fisichella    Jordan-Honda                    17      -       -       2
Nick Heidfeld           Sauber-Petronas                 15      -       -       -
Jarno Trulli            Renault                         14      -       -       1
Eddie Irvine            Jaguar-Cosworth                 13      -       1       -
Jacques Villeneuve      BAR-Honda                       11      -       -       1
Mika Salo               Toyota                          7       -       -       -
Felipe Massa            Sauber-Petronas                 5       -       -       -
Takuma Sato             Jordan-Honda                    5       -       -       -
Olivier Panis           BAR-Honda                       5       -       -       -
Heinz Harald Frentzen   Arrows-Cosworth/Sauber-Petronas 3       -       -       -
Mark Webber             Minardi-Asiatech                3       -       -       -
Allan McNish            Toyota                          2       -       -       -
Pedro de la Rosa        Jaguar-Cosworth                 0       -       -       -
Enrique Bernoldi        Arrows-Cosworth                 0       -       -       -
Alex Yoong              Minardi-Asiatech                0       -       -       -
Anthony Davidson        Minardi-Asiatech                0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 162
Williams-BMW            86
McLaren-Mercedes        73
Renault                 35
Jordan-Honda            22
Sauber-Petronas         20
BAR-Honda               16
Jaguar-Cosworth         13
Toyota                  9
Minardi-Asiatech        3
Arrows-Cosworth         3

As expected, Schumacher's title was never under threat here. Barrichello was Schumacher's nearest challenger in real life (144 points to 77) so it's not surprising to see that the winning margin is ever greater here! The only time that Schumacher doesn't score is when Barrichello wins the race (hence Rubinho's 40 points). Montoya and Coulthard overtake Barrichello in the championship, whilst Ralf Schumacher suffers a little. Fisichella seems to perform well (Sato was his teammate), whilst Salo (5 points finishes) and Webber (2 points finishes) also increase their points haul at the bottom end of the table.

In the constructors, Ferrari still dominate, but lose a lot of Barrichello's podiums, so it is closer. McLaren are a little closer to Williams too. Jordan leapfrog Sauber, BAR leapfrog Jaguar (despite an Irvine 2nd place at Monza) and Toyota jump Minardi (lots of Salo's 7ths and 8ths were converted into 5ths and 6ths).

[Aerospeed]

I predict a good 2001 for Jacques.

[watka]

Well let's see how Jacques did!

2001

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Driver                  Team                            Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                         120     9       5       -
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes                67      2       5       3
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-BMW                    45      3       1       1
Juan Pablo Montoya      Williams-BMW                    32      1       3       1
Mika Hakkinen           McLaren-Mercedes                24      2       -       1
Jacques Villeneuve      BAR-Honda                       21      -       -       3
Nick Heidfeld           Sauber-Petronas                 19      -       -       2
Jarno Trulli            Jordan-Honda                    17      -       -       1
Rubens Barrichello      Ferrari                         16      -       2       1
Eddie Irvine            Jaguar-Cosworth                 13      -       1       -
Kimi Raikkonen          Sauber-Petronas                 13      -       -       1
Jean Alesi              Prost-Acer/Jordan-Honda         12      -       -       -
Olivier Panis           BAR-Honda                       10      -       -       -
Giancarlo Fisichella    Benetton-Renault                9       -       -       1
Heinz Herald Frentzen   Jordan-Honda/Prost-Acer         9       -       -       1
Pedro de la Rosa        Jaguar-Cosworth                 5       -       -       1
Jenson Button           Benetton-Renault                4       -       -       -
Jos Verstappen          Arrows-Asiatech                 4       -       -       -
Enrique Bernoldi        Arrows-Asiatech                 1       -       -       -
Luciano Burti           Jaguar-Cosworth/Prost-Acer      1       -       -       -
Ricardo Zonta           Jordan-Honda                    0       -       -       -
Tarso Marques           Minardi-European                0       -       -       -
Alex Yoong              Minardi-European                0       -       -       -
Fernando Alonso         Minardi-European                0       -       -       -
Gaston Mazzacane        Prost-Acer                      0       -       -       -
Tomas Enge              Prost-Acer                      0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 136
McLaren-Mercedes        91
Williams-BMW            77
Sauber-Petronas         32
BAR-Honda               31
Jordan-Honda            31
Jaguar-Cosworth         19
Benetton-Renault        13
Prost-Acer              7
Arrows-Asiatech         5
Minardi-European        0

As in real life, no one can hope to match Michael Schumacher. David Coulthard give it his best shot, but even after scoring in all 7 of the first 7 rounds, he was still 9 points behind Schumacher at that point. Whilst Schumacher continued his dominant form, Coulthard eventually fell away and it was the Williams' cars that provided more of a threat towards the end of the season. Ralf Schumacher and Montoya got respectable 3rd and 4th place championship finishes respectively, whilst Barrichello's season was miserable, scoring only 3 times, beating Schumacher outright only once, managing only 9th in the championship. Villeneuve moved up a place to 6th, not far off beating Hakkinen either, who had a year to forget. Raikkonen and de la Rosa got surprise podiums, and Irvine got a 2nd in Monaco. Bernoldi and Burti scored a point a piece. Button scored the same amount as Verstappen, which tells you everything about his season.

The top 4 spots in the constructors remain the same, but after that BAR jump Jordan due to Villeneuve's 3 3rd places. Jaguar confortably clear a godawful Benetton, who were not that far in front of Prost either.

[watka]

2000

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                 108     9       3       -
Mika Hakkinen           McLaren-Mercedes        74      4       5       1
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes        39      3       1       -
Rubens Barrichello      Ferrari                 34      1       4       -
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-BMW            32      -       1       5
Jacques Villeneuve      BAR-Honda               31      -       -       6
Giancarlo Fisichella    Benetton-Playlife       26      -       2       2
Heinz Herald Frentzen   Jordan-Mugen-Honda      19      -       1       1
Mika Salo               Sauber-Petronas         16      -       -       -
Eddie Irvine            Jaguar-Cosworth         12      -       -       -
Jenson Button           Williams-BMW            11      -       -       2
Jos Verstappen          Arrows-Supertec         8       -       -       -
Jarno Trulli            Jordan-Mugen-Honda      7       -       -       -
Alexander Wurz          Benetton-Playlife       5       -       -       -
Pedro de la Rosa        Arrows-Supertec         5       -       -       -
Johnny Herbert          Jaguar-Cosworth         4       -       -       -
Ricardo Zonta           BAR-Honda               4       -       -       -
Pedro Diniz             Sauber-Petronas         3       -       -       -
Marc Gene               Minardi-Fondmetal       2       -       -       -
Nick Heidfeld           Prost-Peugeot           1       -       -       -
Gaston Mazzacane        Minardi-Fondmetal       1       -       -       -
Luciano Burti           Jaguar-Cosworth         0       -       -       -
Jean Alesi              Prost-Peugeot           0       -       -       -

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Ferrari                 142
McLaren-Mercedes        113
Williams-BMW            43
BAR-Honda               35
Benetton-Playlife       31
Jordan-Mugen-Honda      26
Sauber-Petronas         19
Jaguar-Cosworth         16
Arrows-Supertec         13
Minardi-Fondmetal       3
Prost-Peugeot           1

Michael Schumacher wins his 2000 little more comfortably here than in real life. In reality, a win at Japan (2nd to last race) got him the championship, whereas here, it was sewn up after Indy (3rd to last race) by virtue of win count. Even after a lean spell in the middle of the season (at one point scoring any twice in the space of 7 rces), Schumacher still held the championship lead as Hakkinen did not beat Coulthard consistently enough. Once again, Jacques Villeneuve was a beneficiary under this system, going from 0 podiums to 6 podiums! Mika Salo jumped up a couple of spots as a few finishes were converted into points paying spots, whilst unsurprisingly, Button slipped down a little in what was his debut season (still got a podium though!). Wurz had a really poor season, whilst both Minardis managed to score points!

As with the driver's, Ferrari's constructors crown is more comfortable under this system. Villeneuve's performances, and Wurz's lack of them propelled BAR above Benetton. Arrows slip from 7th to 9th as they only gained 6 more points under this system. Minardi also clearly beat Prost (they both had 0 in real life).

[watka]

1999

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Mika Hakkinen           McLaren-Mercedes        71      5       3       -
Heinz Harald Frentzen   Jordan-Mugen-Honda      64      2       3       5
Eddie Irvine            Ferrari                 61      4       2       2
Ralf Schumacher         Williams-Supertec       41      -       1       5
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                 40      2       3       -
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes        37      2       2       -
Johnny Herbert          Stewart-Ford            17      1       -       1
Rubens Barrichello      Stewart-Ford            17      -       -       2
Giancarlo Fisichella    Benetton-Playlife       15      -       1       -
Jarno Trulli            Prost-Peugeot           14      -       1       -
Alexander Wurz          Benetton-Playlife       8       -       -       -
Jean Alesi              Sauber-Petronas         7       -       -       -
Mika Salo               Ferrari/BAR-Supertec    5       -       -       1
Damon Hill              Jordan-Mugen-Honda      5       -       -       -
Pedro Diniz             Sauber-Petronas         5       -       -       -
Olivier Panis           Prost-Peugeot           4       -       -       -
Marc Gene               Minardi-Ford            2       -       -       -
Alessandro Zanardi      Williams-Supertec       1       -       -       -
Pedro de la Rosa        Arrows                  1       -       -       -
Jacques Villeneuve      BAR-Supertec            1       -       -       -
Toranosuke Takagi       Arrows                  0       -       -       -
Luca Badoer             Minardi-Ford            0       -       -       -
Stephane Sarrazin       Minardi-Ford            0       -       -       -
Ricardo Zonta           BAR-Supertec            0       -       -       -

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McLaren-Mercedes        108
Ferrari                 105
Jordan-Mugen-Honda      69
Williams-Supertec       42
Stewart-Ford            34
Benetton-Playlife       23
Prost-Peugeot           18
Sauber-Petronas         12
Minardi-Ford            2
BAR-Supertec            2
Arrows                  1

This championship will now be etched in my mind as the championship that Frentzen lost! Whilst Hakkinen and Irvine both had 9 points finishes, Frentzen racked up 13 points finishes to bring himself into contention. After 6 rounds, it looked like a 2 horse battle for the title once again between Hakkinen and Michael Schumacher. 2 rounds later at Britain, that all changed as Michael Schumacher had his leg-breaking crash, and Hakkinen failed to score. Irvine then became Ferrari #1 and Frentzen had put himself in with a chance by winning the French GP the race before. By Belgium, Frentzen and Irvine had changed 15 and 22 point deficits (respectively) to just 5 and 2 point deficits. Frentzen took the championship lead with victory in Italy, and held onto it despite retirement at the Nurburgring whilst Hakkinen and Irvine scored. After Malaysia, and a win for Irvine, the championship was as follows going into the last round:

Hakkinen 61 (4 wins, 3 2nds)
Irvine 61 (4 wins, 2 2nds)
Frentzen 60 (2 wins)

As it happened, Hakkinen's win settled the championship and Michael Schumacher finished ahead of Irvine to allow 2nd place in the championship to go to Frentzen. Elsewhere, Ralf managed to get the better of his big brother, racking up the podiums in his absence to beat him by a point. Coulthard slips from 4th to 6th (despite 2 wins), and Barrichello finishes level with teammate Herbert. Salo drops a fair few points from being beaten by Irvine, whilst Trulli doubles his. Damon Hill has an appalling season (only 2 points finishes as Frentzen dominates him), whilst Zanardi and Villeneuve both score.

The constructors' title changes hands from Ferrari to McLaren, mainly by virtue of McLaren's higher win count. Another change is that Williams comfortably jump Stewart, whose cars often both performed well at the same time (e.g. Barrichello's 3rd at Nurburgring was lost). Arrows failed to gain any points under this system and therefore fell behind Minardi and debutants BAR!

[watka]

1998

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Driver                  Team                    Total   Wins    2nds    3rds
Mika Hakkinen           McLaren-Mercedes        102     8       3       1
Michael Schumacher      Ferrari                 93      6       5       -
Jacques Villeneuve      Williams-Mecachrome     27      -       1       3
Damon Hill              Jordan-Mugen-Honda      26      1       -       2
Jean Alesi              Sauber-Petronas         25      -       1       -
Heinz Harald Frentzen   Williams-Mecachrome     23      -       1       2
Alexander Wurz          Benetton-Playlife       22      -       -       4
Giancarlo Fisichella    Benetton-Playlife       20      -       2       -
David Coulthard         McLaren-Mercedes        17      1       1       -
Ralf Schumacher         Jordan-Mugen-Honda      15      -       1       1
Eddie Irvine            Ferrari                 14      -       1       2
Rubens Barrichello      Stewart-Ford            8       -       -       1
Johnny Herbert          Sauber-Petronas         7       -       -       -
Pedro Diniz             Arrows                  4       -       -       -
Shinji Nakano           Minardi-Ford            4       -       -       -
Mika Salo               Arrows                  3       -       -       -
Jarno Trulli            Prost-Peugeot           2       -       -       -
Ricardo Rosset          Tyrrell-Ford            2       -       -       -
Jan Magnussen           Stewart-Ford            1       -       -       -
Esteban Tuero           Minardi-Ford            1       -       -       -
Olivier Panis           Prost-Peugeot           0       -       -       -
Jos Verstappen          Stewart-Ford            0       -       -       -
Toranosuke Takagi       Tyrrell-Ford            0       -       -       -

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McLaren-Mercedes        119
Ferrari                 107
Williams-Mecachrome     50
Benetton-Playlife       42
Jordan-Mugen-Honda      41
Sauber-Petronas         32
Stewart-Ford            9
Arrows                  7
Minardi-Ford            5
Prost-Peugeot           2
Tyrrell-Ford            2

At the business end, this isn't too different to real life. Hakkinen actually went into the final race with a one point deficit, but Schumacher's retirement meant an easy race for Hakkinen and he took home the championship. From about France onwards (the 8th round), Schumacher and Hakkinen were neck and neck for the championship lead right through until the end. Naturally, Coulthard and Irvine suffered. Coulthard went from 3rd to 9th (with only 3 points finishes) and Irvine from 4th to 11th (with 3 points finishes as well). AGAIN, Villeneuve was a beneficiary, earning a few extra podiums and pipping a large group of drivers to 3rd in the championship. Amongst that pack is Jean Alesi, who only finished 11th in real life, but 5th here after collecting a 2nd at Spa (poor Ralf Schumacher!) and 9 other points finishes. Shinji Nakano scored 4 points, including a 4th at Montreal! Tuero and Magnussen also score a point each.

In the constructors, McLaren and Ferrari aren't quite so far ahead of the rest, but it's still a big gap! Benetton jump Jordan for 4th, Stewart jump Arrows (who always seem to lose out), and Minardi jump Prost.

[James1978]

Coutlhard and Irvine battling it out for DBTMOTY!