Create your ideal 18-race calendar

[DemocalypseNow]

1. Daytona 24 Hours
2. Clipsal 500
3. Macau GP
4. Suzuka
5. Silverstone TT
6. Indy 500
7. Monaco
8. Pau GP
9. Estoril
10. Jerez
11. Le Mans 24 Hours
12. A1 Ring
13. Bathurst 1000km
14. Spa-Francorchamps
15. Monza (Oval)
16. Mugello
17. Zandvoort
18. Laguna Seca 300
19. Interlagos
20. San Luis

[FullMetalJack]

well of course, I just wish Bernie and his group of thugs would see that the fans are NOT content with the current situation. However, he's making too much money off of the current venues and herman tilke-made tracks. What a horrbile combination

All the tilkedromes should go, with the exception of Sepang.

[rdbextreme]

well of course, I just wish Bernie and his group of thugs would see that the fans are NOT content with the current situation. However, he's making too much money off of the current venues and herman tilke-made tracks. What a horrbile combination

All the tilkedromes should go, with the exception of Sepang.

agreed. However, I do think Abu Dhabi is interesting, yet still not what a world class racing circuit should be by 2011 standards. I mean, isn't the purpose of a track, to provide great racing and NOT follow the leader laps until pit stops?

[Klon]

well of course, I just wish Bernie and his group of thugs would see that the fans are NOT content with the current situation. However, he's making too much money off of the current venues and herman tilke-made tracks. What a horrbile combination

All the tilkedromes should go, with the exception of Sepang.

Keeping Sepang but removing Shanghai. No, no, no ... that's no good.

[FullMetalJack]

well of course, I just wish Bernie and his group of thugs would see that the fans are NOT content with the current situation. However, he's making too much money off of the current venues and herman tilke-made tracks. What a horrbile combination

All the tilkedromes should go, with the exception of Sepang.

Keeping Sepang but removing Shanghai. No, no, no ... that's no good.

Shanghai's only good when it's a wet race.

[shinji]

All the tilkedromes should go, with the exception of Sepang.

Keeping Sepang but removing Shanghai. No, no, no ... that's no good.

Shanghai's only good when it's a wet race.

Ditto Sepang in fairness though.

[Aerond]

1) Brazil - Interlagos (Modern layout)
2) Argentina - Potrero de los funes
3) Mexico - Hermanos Rodriguez (80´s layout)
4) South Africa - Kyalami (70´s layout)
5) Monaco
6) Belgium - Spa (earlier to increase the chance of rain)
7) France - Le Mans (24 hours circuit)
8) Canada - Montreal
9) US - Road Atlanta
10) Germany - Hockenheim (94-2001 layout)
11) Italy - Monza
12) Turkey - Istanbul Park
13) China - Shanghai // South Korea - KIC (one year each)
14) Malaysia - Sepang
15) Macau
16) Japan - Suzuka
17) Pacific - Autopolis / Fuji (can´t decide, so one year each)
18) Australia - Adelaide

[Aerond]

It's only really a big event for drivers as it's a challenge for them. Wet races are the only really exciting ones such as 1984, 1996, 1997 and 2008.

False, you forgot 1992

[rdbextreme]

1) Brazil - Interlagos (Modern layout)
2) Argentina - Potrero de los funes
3) Mexico - Hermanos Rodriguez (80´s layout)
4) South Africa - Kyalami (70´s layout)
5) Monaco
6) Belgium - Spa (earlier to increase the chance of rain)
7) France - Le Mans (24 hours circuit)
8) Canada - Montreal
9) US - Road Atlanta
10) Germany - Hockenheim (94-2001 layout)
11) Italy - Monza
12) Turkey - Istanbul Park
13) China - Shanghai // South Korea - KIC (one year each)
14) Malaysia - Sepang
15) Macau
16) Japan - Suzuka
17) Pacific - Autopolis / Fuji (can´t decide, so one year each)
18) Australia - Adelaide

I like your choices, except for Kyalami. I'd insert the Durban Street Circuit from A1 GP, and possible replace Indianapolis for Road Atlanta, but I really liked your picks.

[Aerond]

1) Brazil - Interlagos (Modern layout)
2) Argentina - Potrero de los funes
3) Mexico - Hermanos Rodriguez (80´s layout)
4) South Africa - Kyalami (70´s layout)
5) Monaco
6) Belgium - Spa (earlier to increase the chance of rain)
7) France - Le Mans (24 hours circuit)
8) Canada - Montreal
9) US - Road Atlanta
10) Germany - Hockenheim (94-2001 layout)
11) Italy - Monza
12) Turkey - Istanbul Park
13) China - Shanghai // South Korea - KIC (one year each)
14) Malaysia - Sepang
15) Macau
16) Japan - Suzuka
17) Pacific - Autopolis / Fuji (can´t decide, so one year each)
18) Australia - Adelaide

I like your choices, except for Kyalami. I'd insert the Durban Street Circuit from A1 GP, and possible replace Indianapolis for Road Atlanta, but I really liked your picks.

The old Kyalami was quite good, I don´t know how Durban is so I can´t tell. Modern Indianapolis is not bad at all, but I´d love to see a modern F1 car around Road Atlanta´s esses. The back straight could make for a good overtaking opportunity. I think I got a good mixture of modern/old tracks across all continents. Not all of the Tilke tracks are that bad and I quite like those I chose. Most people forget Autopolis (or Okayama int.) exist but is long and interesting enough for F1 races. Modern Fuji is also a very good track; it´s a pity Toyota didn´t push harder for a 2nd race in Japan.

[rdbextreme]

yea I see your point about the Es's at Road Atlanta. I wish this forum was your ideal 28 race calender. That would be more interesting to see people expand on their current ideas

[Waris]

I had been thinking, what instead of creating an 18-race calendar with ideal tracks, what if we turn the idea around, so to speak, and make a calendar with 7 races (the lowest ever number in F1, and the number of races in the first season, 1950), picked from today's calendar? This is what I came up with:

1. Monaco, Monte-Carlo
2. Canada, Montréal
3. Great Britain, Silverstone
4. Belgium, Spa-Francorchamps
5. Italy, Monza
6. Japan, Suzuka
7. Brazil, Interlagos

I think this is a pretty sound calendar. What do you think?

[Aerospeed]

Good idea, but I think the lowest number of races that can happen is eight. Add Jerez to the list and you're good to go.

[Waris]

Good idea, but I think the lowest number of races that can happen is eight. Add Jerez to the list and you're good to go.

Why do you think so? There have been two seasons with only 7 races, in 1950 and, can't be bothered to look it up, later in the fifties, probably 1956.

[watka]

I don't think I've actually posted here yet, so I will!

Classic 7 race calendar:
1. Australian GP - Adelaide
2. German GP - Nurburgring Nordschliefe
3. Canadian GP - Montreal
4. Belgian GP - Spa
5. Italian GP - Monza
6. Japanese GP - Suzuka
7. Brazilian GP - Interlagos

Crazy, do-what-you-like 18-race calendar:
1. Australian GP - Bathurst
2. Macau GP - Guia Circuit
3. Spanish GP - Motorland Aragon
4. French GP - Clermont Ferrard
5. Monaco GP - Monte Carlo
6. British GP - Oulton Park
7. USA GP East - Watkins Glen
8. Canadian GP - Montreal
9. Dutch GP - Zandvoort/Assen (alternating)
10. Belgian GP - Spa Francorchamps
11. German GP - Nurburgring Nordschliefe
12. Austrian GP - A1 Ring
13. Italian GP - Mugello
14. European GP - Birmingham Superprix Circuit
15. Japanese GP - Suzuka
16. USA GP West - Laguna Seca
17. Brazilian GP - Interlagos
18. Oceanian GP - Adelaide

[shinji]

Good idea, but I think the lowest number of races that can happen is eight. Add Jerez to the list and you're good to go.

What's with your fixation on Jerez, may I ask?

[Aerond]

I can see the nostalgia talking for all those who chose the Norschleife, but you don´t know what you´re talking about. Surely it would be a huge test to cars and drivers alike, but there would barely be a race, as the track is too narrow for current F1 cars.

[Klon]

I can see the nostalgia talking for all those who chose the Norschleife, but you don´t know what you´re talking about. Surely it would be a huge test to cars and drivers alike, but there would barely be a race, as the track is too narrow for current F1 cars.

Facts are for losers!

Well, this is the calender I would use:

Brazilian Grand Prix - Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace
Argentinian Grand Prix - Autodromo de Buenos Aires Circuito 8
Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit
Bahrain Grand Prix - Bahrain International Circuit Outer Course
British Grand Prix - Donington Park National Circuit
Monaco Grand Prix - Circuit de Monaco
Austrian Grand Prix - Red-Bull-Ring Spielberg
Canadian Grand Prix - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
French Grand Prix - Circuit de La Sarthe
German Grand Prix - Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit
Belgian Grand Prix - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
Spanish Grand Prix - Madrid Street Circuit*
Italian Grand Prix - Autodromo Nazionale Monza
Singaporean Grand Prix - Marina Bay Street Circuit
Senegalese Grand Prix - Circuit de Dakar-Baobabs
United States Grand Prix - Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka Circuit
Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai International Circuit

[FullMetalJack]

7 Race Calendar with current tracks

Australia - Melbourne
Brazil - Interlagos
Monaco - Monte Carlo
Canada - Montreal
Belgium - Spa Francorchamps
Italy - Monza
Japan - Suzuka

[Rocks with Salt]

Don't you think it would be rather useless to come up with a 7-track calendar since we'd all have the same tracks just in different orders?

[Aerond]

I can see the nostalgia talking for all those who chose the Norschleife, but you don´t know what you´re talking about. Surely it would be a huge test to cars and drivers alike, but there would barely be a race, as the track is too narrow for current F1 cars.

Facts are for losers!

Where did you hide your "I am idealism" T-shirt??

[Aerospeed]

Good idea, but I think the lowest number of races that can happen is eight. Add Jerez to the list and you're good to go.

What's with your fixation on Jerez, may I ask?

Fixation? I'm just merely saying it's a good track. All of the races there have been excellent. Compare that to Barcelona where there has been... one good race. Out of 19. I think.

Yes, I do have a fixation of Jerez

[Waris]

Don't you think it would be rather useless to come up with a 7-track calendar since we'd all have the same tracks just in different orders?

Ostensibly we wouldn't, since the person above you just posted one with different tracks.

[madmark1974]

Don't you think it would be rather useless to come up with a 7-track calendar since we'd all have the same tracks just in different orders?

Here's an idea - you could have a world tour, 7 tracks per continent per season, so for example :

North / South America SEASON 1

Watkins Glen
Interlagos
Indy Road track
Montreal
Houston
Mexico
Buenos Aries

Europe SEASON 2

Silverstone
Spa
A1 Ring
Le Mans full circuit (only way to replace Monaco and still remain 'special')
Brno
Estoril (1980s version)
Mugello

Africa / Asia / Australasia SEASON 3 (lack of decent tracks (except in Oz) means I've bundled these together)

Phillip Island
Singapore
Korea
Kylami
Malaysia
Suzuka
Melbourne

You could also set a rule that teams had to use one driver from the relevant continent for the relevant season, so you'd have a kind of 'local grudge match' between drivers.

After the 3 years, start again, or you could have the final round of the championship at the same track each year, like Spa, for those 3 years, then somewhere else for the next 3 ...

[nome66]

Fiorano (Ferrari's test course) plus pit lane equals #15 on my calendar.
The Southern European GP.
so far i have(but reorganized a bit)
1) Spain- Jerez
2) Britain- Silverstone (if they can somehow bring back the old, square Luffield)
3) North American GP- alternating between Watkins Glen and Indy (current infield layout, which has the much talked about chicane)
4) Australia- Adelaide
5) Monaco
6) Belgium- Spa Francochamps
7) Brazil- Interlagos (with better security)
8) Abu Dhabi
9) USA- Las Vegas (Don't be worried. it's not the parking lot. Search "Las Vegas Motor Speedway" on Google maps, great road course)
10) Canada- Notre Dame
11) European GP- Nurburgring
12) Italy- Monza. Flatten the banking and run the "Florio" course.
13) France- Paul Ricard (check pg 4 for layout)
14) Japan- Sazuka
15) Southern Europe- Fiorano
16) Ocianic GP- Oran Park
notice i kept the "8" tracks together. My brain will fart out two more ideas soon enough.

[the Masked Lapwing]

16) Ocianic GP- Oran Park

I miss Oran Park

[nome66]

16) Ocianic GP- Oran Park

I miss Oran Park

miss it? they take it out or something?

BTW:: I've always wondered this. what exactly does "Mickey Mouse" mean in track terms? sorry for this minor n00B diversion.

[the Masked Lapwing]

16) Ocianic GP- Oran Park

I miss Oran Park

miss it? they take it out or something?

The government demolished it to build a housing development.

[IntegratorTypeR]

I've always thought there's too much of the samey samey sameness on the calender with regards to what the circuits and events demand of the car. We need more variety so:

1. Austrailia - Albert Park: Perfect choice for an opening round, established, well organised, well attended, tricky street circuit, perfect test to catch out any slackers from the off-season.

2. Malaysia - Sepang: One of the few modern Tilke that will remain on my calender, since pretty much all the others just try to include everything Sepang has, with slightly different decorations. Good test of a car's all round ability.

3. Turkey - Istanbul Park: One simple modification to the track to throw a spanner in the works for the teams. Then Turn 9/10 chicane is replaced by a high speed kink similar to the current T11. This now gives a long back section of full throttle running putting an emphasis on higher top speed and hopefully teams bringing lower downforce and less drag setups making the corners harder for the drivers, which are made more difficult by the adoption of Imola's old high kerbs. The track is wide enough in the first and has plenty of run off, the current flat penalty free kerbs encourage too much reckless, consequence free driving, I want a track to reward precise controlled driving.


4. San Marino - Imola: I've modified the track to bring back Tamburello but now its been brought inside the track more to provide more run off, chicanes (although the facility to use one (shown in pink) is available as an option) have been loped off the front straight making it much longer and faster. This should turn down the downforce requirements and make the back section of the track more challenging. Also the traditional high kerbs have been flattened to make the narrow track a bit more useable.


5. Spain - Barcelona: The favoured winter test venue continues its run of holding the Spanish GP. Dispense with that horrible final chicane though. Aero efficiency the name of the game here.

6. Moncao - Monte Carlo: The glitz, the glamour, the godawful lack of actual racing, it has to be included for being a completely different circuit in every regard to pretty much anything else.

7. Canada - Montreal: I'd like to remove one of the chicanes in sector 1/2 but I don't think it's reasonably possible but still, fast cars, heavy braking demands, close walls is good test of the drivers.

8. USA - Indianapolis: The oval run in reverse and for 300 MILES, not the usual 300KM. Longer race = 1.5 x points and refuleing is allowed too. Knockout qualifying doesnt apply, it becomes another practice session. Qualy times are taken from the best time achieved over the 4 practice sessions, should keep the teams on their toes. Being an oval, US type Oval rules will applying to the running of the race eg: rolling starts, full course yellows/safety car. Since this is the only oval race on the calender, teams get a 2 day test session during the week prior to the race weekend. All regular technical regs apply to wings, suspension etc.

9. UK - Silverstone: Not the current Arena layout but back to the familiar GP layout of the 2000's. But I can't help but fiddle. A section of track starting just before maggots/becketts section and ending at the beginning of the hangar straight, will have elevation added to it... or should I say taken away? It will essentially drop 15m -20m and rise the same again, within that section. Imagine God reaching down and pressing that section of track into the ground. Also, since they've moved the pit complex over to farm/club straight, Im going to give the circuit a gimmick of having the start grid on the curve of Woodcote (remember when cars used to line up like that?) and the finish line where the pit straight now is, so the first "lap" won't be a complete lap of the circuit but its different for difference sake.

10. Germany - Nürburgring Nordschleife TT: No, not a race a TT, Time Trial. In the manner of the Isle of Mann TT, cars lap the circuit on their own, starting at 25 second intervals. WIthout cars around them to spoil their sensitve aero, this becomes a no holds barred scrap to see who is plainly the fastest. Running order is reverse championship positions.

11. European - Various Hill Climbs: Another gimmick. Maybe you'd need a place that has 3/4/5 different hill climbs at one place so even though cars are running one at a time, they could at least get reasonable amount of running. Friday practice sessions would be in reverse championship order, split them up onto however many hill climbs there are and they get 2 runs on that climb before moving onto the next one. Same again on Saturday but the best time from each climb in the qualy session will count. "Race" day gets you 2 runs on each climb, so you've got 3 times from each climb (overall total could be 9/12/15 depending on the number hill climbs available) they're all added together, and the quickest wins. Since this wouldnt run to regulation GP length, it might have to be half points.

12. France - Circuit La Sarthe: Yep, Le Mans but without the chicanes on the Mulsanne. This will be a TIMED event, lasting 2 hours. Refueling is allowed. Because of the distance likely to be acheived 1.5 x points might have to be awarded.

13. Belgium - Spa: Classic. But put back the orginal bus-stop chicane at the end of the lap.

14. Italy - Monza: Another classic, low downforce and drag, big top speeds and stops for chicanes, another good test of machine.

15. Singapore: It's already got it's own gimmick so might as well keep it. With the demise of Hungaroring, we need a track that places a heavy demand on downforce and raw grip. Keep the track bumpy and the corners many, even if the racing ends up a little dull, in the grand scheme of things, it might throw up a few surprises.

16. Japan - Suzuka: A properly demanding circuit, one for the purists.

17. Brazil - Interlagos: Track has a good balance, the facilities are a bit shanty town, but the event is pretty good.

18. Abu Dhabi - Marina Bay: OK if Abu Dhabi wants the day into night gimmick, it has to work for it. I've notcied some corners here have those kerbs the drop away, rather like gutters. They'll be placed at all corners and made a bit more pronouced, in a kinda reverse Imola kerbs kinda way. This'll be an endurance race, double distance or 2.5 hours whichever comes first. Double points all round too. Rolling start, refuelling and tyre change pitstops allowed.

So there we go. More variety and extremes on the calender to properly challenge the teams and drivers.

[Waris]

18. Abu Dhabi - Marina Bay

Marina Bay is the name of the circuit in Singapore.
I like your idea, btw.

[shinji]

IntegratorTypeR, is the italicised green text really necessary? It doesn't integrate very well with the thread, and kind of grates with me tbh.

[rdbextreme]

1. Red Bull Vegas Grand Prix --> streets of Las Vegas (former Champ Car layout)
2.Gran Premio Tecate --> Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez (Mexico)
3. Grand Prix of Argentina --> Circuito de Potrero de los Funes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrero_de ... es_Circuit)
[this track is more modern and has many more passing opportunities than Juan y Oscar Galvez]
4. Brazilian Grand Prix --> Interlagos
5. South African Grand Prix --> streets of Durban (A1 GP layout)
[this street circuit has two different layouts that could alternate each year. It would provide more exciting racing than Kyalami]
6. Macau Grand Prix --> Guia Circuit (Although it is tight, it would provide some exciting racing/scenery)
7. Malaysian Grand Prix --> Sepang
8. Grand Prix of China --> Either Shanghai or a street race in Beijing.
9. Japanese Grand Prix --> Suzuka
10. Australian Grand Prix --> Adelaide (alternate night and day each year)
11. British Grand Prix --> Either Silverstone (previous 2011 layout) or a street race in London. [the Need for Speed layout would be nice]
12. Portuguese Grand Prix --> Autódromo Internacional do Algarve
13. Grand Prix of France --> Paul Ricard (would be nice to see Le Mans make an appearance as well)
14. Belgium Grand Prix --> Spa
15. Spanish Grand Prix --> Valencia street race (night race) [this race needs a bit more spice]
16. Italian Grand Prix --> Alternate between Monza and a street race in Rome
17. Grand Prix of Monaco --> Monte Carlo
18. United States Grand Prix --> Indianapolis Motor Speedway (road course)
[Americans LOVE the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, if F1 returned they would see very large crowds]
19. Canadian Grand Prix --> Gilles Villeneuve
20. Singapore Grand Prix --> street circuit (night race)
21. Abu Dhabi Grand Prix --> Yas Marina Circuit (alternate each year with day and night races)

[dr-baker]

Monaco can only be in the post-Easter period. Can't it?

[MansellsEyebrows]

1. Australia (Melbourne)
2. Malaysia (Sepang circuit)
3. China (Shanghai circuit)
4. India (Jaypee Circuit)
5. South Africa (Durban street circuit)
6. Spain (Montjuich Park)
7. Portugal (Portimao)
8. Monaco (Monte Carlo)
9. France (Le Mans Bugatti or La Castellet)
10. Britain (Silverstone)
11. German (Nurburgring GP-Strecke)
12. Austria (Red Bull Ring) or Turkey (Istanbul)
13. Italy (Monza)
14. Belgium (Spa)
15. Canada (Montreal)
16. Mexico (Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez)
17. United States (Austin)
18. Pacific (Singapore Streets)
19. Japan (Suzuka)
20. Middle East (Abu Dhabi)
21. Argentina (Potrero de los Funes)
22. Brazil (Interlagos)

[RainierSassetti]

Hello guys, this forum seems to be a nice spot, may I crash on that couch?

1. Australian GP : Adelaide (Classic layout)
2. Malaysian GP : Sepang
3. Spanish GP : Montjuic
4. US GP : Circuit of 'Merica's
5. Canadian GP : Gilles-Villeneuve
6. Monaco GP
7. French GP : Paul Ricard
8. British GP : Brands Hatch (alternating with Silverstone)
9. German GP : Nurburgring
10. San Marino GP : Imola
11. Belgian GP : Spa-Francorchamps
12. Italian GP : Monza
13. HWNSNBM GP : Hungaoring
14. Argentinian GP : Potrero de Los Funes
15. Brazilian GP : Interlagos
16. Macau GP (Could run under Chinese GP name maybe)
17. Abu Dhabi GP : Yas Marina
18. Japan GP : Suzuka

I think it would be a nice combination of DF/Power circuits. whaddaya think of it?

[TomWazzleshaw]

Hello guys, this forum seems to be a nice spot, may I crash on that couch?

Welcome, feel free to crash on the couch as long as you remember to stop buy and pick up some Popcorn from Wizzie's popcorn distributors from time to time.

[rdbextreme]

I love your guys' picks for race calenders. I also love the fact that more people are aware of the wonderful track that is Portero de los Funes in Argentina. It's the perfect locatiobn for an F1 race, and the track is plenty wide and long for such an event. With more artificial bleachers for fans, this track could be the gem of the F1 series.

[Yannick]

I made a brainstorming a minute ago and this is what I came up with:

Suzuka (R)
Sepang (R)
Long Beach (S)
Kurtkoy (R)
Imola (R) (the current track with a different Tamburello chicane that's tighter on entry so you can overtake)
Motorland Aragon (R)
Monaco (S)
Potrero De Los Funes (R/S)
Montreal (R)
Helsinki Thunder (S) (lengthened in the direction of the hairpin in the West, and also leading a few blocks further to the east)
Le Castellet (R)
Silverstone (R)
Nürburgring (R)(the current GP track)
Hungaroring (R)
Red Bull Ring (R)
Spa (R)
Monza (R)
Portimao (R)
Singapore (S) night race
Abu Dhabi (R)
Melbourne (S)
Macao (widened, which should be no problem for the Chinese Government to do) (S)

At 23, these are 4 too many. Interlagos is already missing until they have fixed their safety problem.
I need to remove Mexico City as well for safety reasons. This is when it gets difficult. I could take out Imola because it's the 2nd race in the same country and the other, Monza, is a must-have. So then, 21 still remain. What are chances like that today's crop of cars could produce good racing on the long layout at Le Castellet? With Monaco so close, it's out. So 2 further track needs to be removed. I will not remove Hungaroring because I've been there once and a slow circuit such as this brings some variety to the calendar. But I cannot narrow it down to 18 unless I remove the current Nürburgring which is either rainy or boring, and another track. 7 street races out of 19 is a bit much, isn't it? I cannot decide which one to drop, so they all remain. So the question is which of the two untried tracks on the Iberian peninsula gets the boot: Aragon or Portimao? I just don't know. So here's my 19 track calendar:

1) Melbourne (S)
2) Sepang (R)
3) Long Beach (S)
4) Potrero De Los Funes (R/S)
5) Kurtkoy a/k/a Istambul Park (R)
6) Motorland Aragon (R)
7) Monaco (S)
8) Montreal (R)
9) Helsinki Thunder (S) (lengthened in the direction of the hairpin in the West, and also leading a few blocks further to the east)
10) Silverstone (R)
11) Hungaroring (R)
12) Red Bull Ring (R)
13) Spa (R)
14) Monza (R)
15) Portimao (R)
16) Singapore (S) night race
17) Abu Dhabi (R)
18) Suzuka (R)
19) Macao (widened, which should be no problem for the Chinese Government to do) (S)

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

I really don't see a need for the Red Bull Ring, other than so RBR can have a home race. If we use the old layout, it's not going to be particularly exciting, and if we use the extension, I don't see much more happening.

[Shizuka]

We need Surfers Paradise and Bathurst.